Who: No. 22 Virginia Tech Hokies (9-4, 6-2 ACC) vs. Arkansas Razorbacks (7-5, 3-5 SEC)
When: Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 5:30 PM EST
Where: Charlotte, North Carolina | Bank of America Stadium (75,412)
Watch/Listen: ESPN / Virginia Tech IMG
Spread: Virginia Tech -6.5
Weather: 52 degrees and clear at kickoff
Series: This is the first meeting between the Hokies and Razorbacks.
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I have never seen that. That is awesome.
Leg
Why exactly did I decide to work today instead of going to the game?
There's still time!
So many legs for this
I feel you. Passing people this morning headed to the game while I was headed to work was the worst.
I'm busting through the wall today at 5pm to get on the road home.
I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL HAVE ENOUGH TIME
I have an hour commute and won't be home until around 6pm. I'll be spending the 1st quarter with Laaser and Burnop.
Mine is half hour, don't get off until 5:30. Also, radio signal on my vehicle sucks.
Feel for us west coast Hokies. 3:30 AZ time kickoff means I am sitting at work for at least the first half, and probably more, as I usually don't get out until done with clients around 5:30 my time
Ugh, I had to work the day of the UVA game it was awful following it by gamecast.
Until we really blew it open then it was fun going all over the building giving Hoos updates.
Its the only downside of watching football on Mountain or Pacific time, weekday bowl games. Because on Saturdays it means I've got Gameday starting at 6AM, and kickoffs as early as 9, and Hokie football by 10 at the latest.
Gameday...
LETS GO...
Welp, game thread up = all productivity down
It's the mf'ing game thread!!!!!
LET'S GOOOO
The way I see it, Fuente has yet to lock down a signature victory (denied Tenn and didn't get Clemson), SO, as a resulting consequence, someone...somebody has gotta pay. As far as I'm concerned, that victim, is Arky
They MUST be destroyed. As in total and complete obliteration.
I know ND had a down year but their offense was nothing to joke about. Winning IN South Bend is a big deal. I'd count that as a signature victory, at least for this season.
For posterity's sake, the "signature victory" is specifically in reference to teams ranked 10 and higher. Not meaning to downgrade the ND win. That was certainly important. But it doesn't even hold equal water that an early season W over Tenn or an ACCCG over Clemson does. Sorry if I didn't make that clearer.
Seems to confuse your point then. They aren't close to top 10.
If you read the entire post, Arky has to pay/suffer for the fact that Fuente has not snagged a signature victory against a top 10 opponent. I wasn't inferring that Arky would be the first top 10 W. Just that they will be the victim of the wrath of Fuente and the team NOT having achieved it. They are to be punished. Hope that clears it up.
Yeah, just look at da U's latest "we bak" edition (as promoted by last nights color team). They had a close game, but ND put up 400 yds of O and won, in spite of losing the turn over battle.
Y'all at the game enjoy, there will be 2 empty seats section 112, Row 18 seat nine and ten. Go enjoy them for me since I can't make it.
Anyone get to use the seats?
If nobody sat there, someone was probably banging the seat against the seat back for noise, that's what the few open seats around me were being used for and it was rather effective.
Who else is having brinner with extra bacon tonight?
That combo is gonna be
White jerseys would have been even better though.
I detest that key sig everytime I had to play it.
White jerseys with orange pants and the metallic orange helmets would have been a nice look.
Our orange pants are never a good look
I like the white helmets, but I don't think I'll enjoy this combination. It feels like of the two teams, we should be owning the red/maroon color in this game! Instead, we look mostly white with a lot of orange highlights on the fringes. Too much orange makes us look like LOLUVA!
I'd love to see VT in all maroon with white helmets and ARK in a mostly white uni with their red helmets.
Either way...let's bring the aggression tonight.
GO HOKIES!!!!!!
I'LL HEAR YOU GUYS THERE!
LET'S GO!
EDIT: oh my. Those colors didn't translate well at all. my apologies to all. will fix later.
Lets go guys!
How dare they degrade such a fantastic dog breed as the Vizsla.
However, I still laughed.
I thought those were the obnoxious horn things from the South Africa World Cup.
Nah Vizsla's are complete spazes but awesome family/companion dogs. If you don't get them enough exercise they can be HIGHLY obnoxious.
nevermind, found what I was thinking of
Money maker for TKP! Hokie Horns!
tell me about it, I just adopted a Viszla mix and if I don't take him for a multi-mile run every day his idea of fun is chewing on EVERYTHING.
They grow out of it...eventually. I have a 7 year old pure bred who calmed down A LOT after turning 4 or 5. I also currently have a 1.5 year old mix who is all over the place. Fortunately they tire each other out. In some ways it's easier to have 2 of them than just one since they will run each other out.
vuvuzela
It's right there in front of us.
10 wins.
Top 15 AP finish.
Momentum.
The bowl game tree is ready
What a great idea
Why is there no W under that tree?
My thoughts on this season and TKP:
Except the ship isnt sinking tonight.
morning run complete, now onto a day full of rum and cokes and cheering on the HOKIES!
Just finished my 6.5 for the day. Time to grab a beer and start catching up.
GO HOKIES!
Pace yourself, man. Game doesn't start for 6+ hours, but we'll need that energy. We don't want you being hog fodder.
Now, pass me the BACON PLATE!
My exact sentiments. Thanks.
This 5:30 kick creates a conundrum, do I get home from work, crack a beer and ignore the wife and kid for the evening, or DVR, and start watching after 757 Jr's bedtime (8pm)???
Sorry family, but you get ignored. They should still be there tomorrow.
Obviously have the kid watch with you. My 6 and 3 year old son's will be in jersey's fetching me "daddy juices" and my 5 month old daugher will be in her hokie dress sqealing for joy!
Jander: parenting done right since 2010
My boy is 2.5, I can usually get him to watch the game for a solid 5 minutes before I'm getting dragged into the playroom
Protip: Put a tv and cable in the playroom.
"The Key Players Club: TKP's benefactors group is 396 strong, make a move and become No. 397."
We are up to 403 thank you very much
Too bad the 404th member hasn't been found.
Checking in from Charlotte and if what I have seen from just walking around, we are going to vastly outnumber Arkansas. I can count on two hands thr number of Arkansas fans I have seen walking around. There are a few more at the Tim McGraw concert. They will be lucky for it to be 80-20 Hokies but it will probably be 90-10 or worse.
From what it looks like where I am it's at least 75% Hokies.
This. Is.
Awesome.This. Is. Home.
So much orange and maroon! There are more Arkansas fans here than I thought though.
Big loss for the Razorbacks.
That certainly adds a Sprinkle of doubt to their chances of winning....
goddammit...here's your leg
https://www.seccountry.com/arkansas/arkansas-jeremy-sprinkle-suspended-a...
If you try to steal from your bowl sponsor, you're gonna have a bad time.
Injury news on the VT front:
Looks like we will need another receiver to step up and Carroll the weight.
No, sorry
That was bad and you should feel bad
You're right, not all puns can be Divine.
We can a Ford another one at least
That is wrong! I want you to go over there and sit in your wrongness.
Anyone gonna be out and about in RVA this evening? I'm not a fan of Hometeam, but where else are we watching?
Edit: Ill be at Triple Crossing Foushee. First beer on me if youre TKPC
If my wife was working, I would make the 1 hr drive from C'ville.
I'm in Dominican Republic, no ESPN coverage here. Any ideas from you smart folks how I can watch the game? Tried all the obvious internet connections and nada. Thanks.
**cough** r/cordcutters has a list **cough**
As with these types of sites, adblockers/anti-malware is highly recommended.
Google search for Reddit cfb streams; they might have something up come kickoff
The resort doesn't have US satellite TV?
It's all HOKIES here in Charlotte
Go Hokies!!!
If the USF and USC game goes long, will they delay the Belk start by a few mins or play on ESPNNEWS?
They will delay a few minutes and then start.
Ok, that's what I thought but wasn't sure. Didn't they do that yesterday with the MIA/WVU game yesterday? I just find it odd that they would delay the start of a game based on what's happening in another. Has to be annoying for the coaches/players. Would be interested to know how far in advance of the next game that they decide to push the start time.
Who's losing that one, btw??
SoCar down by 8 getting the ball with 6 min left.
South Carolina had 1st and goal. RB fumbled at the 2 yd line. South Fla has ball now with 4 min left.
My friend from college is probably biting his nails down to the nubs.
Tied it up.
SoCar getting ball back with 3 min left. USF punting from their own 2, so SoCar should be in excellent field position, for their last attempt to score.
Make that punt returned for TD. 2 pt try coming up
Under review. Looks like he was out at the 3. Out at the 2.
Welp. Tie ball game. This is definitely going to go over now.
In section 107 but you won't be able to see me on TV because I'm wearing camo. But it's safe to say HokieNation showed up today.
That means we have more peeps there than they do, right??
please God, no overtime
Does anyone have suggestions for where to watch other than ESPN if USCe vs USF goes overtime?
We have GOT to win this one for Keion! C'mon DBU, ball out for Keion!
Rev up those WatchESPN connections. Looks like we're going to OT.
ESPN News to start
Game starting on ESPNnews
Oh for fucks sake...
My biggest gripe about WatchESPN - streaming never seems to start on time.
Well, that's bad.
Good start, good start.
What does the fact that the Clemson game ended with an INT have to do with a fumble right off the bat here?
I don't get ESPN news and it won't let me stream it. Fuck ESPN
Exactly.
Why
That's a good stop after coughing it up.
So.....
Nice showing by the defense. Offense gifted them 3 points but if the defense can keep this up, I like our odds. Nigel absolutely blew that 3rd down play up.
It's bad when the announcers go on about how bad the missed penalty was...
...watch espn won't let me log in for some reason
I honestly don't get what's with the fumbles. I mean I guess it just is what it is. But man....
Nah, we've had fumbles every which way possible by a number of different people. I'm not sure what the problem is, but it is definitely not normal.
GameDay app says no audio due to contract.
thank God, South Carolina just lost. switch to our game god damn it
What the fuck is going on.
That's the second time this season one of our blockers has tackled our kick off return man. What the hell.
We need some serious positive ju-ju on this series.
Nice catch bucky!
If you're just joining us, doing okay on plays where we retain the football.
I want to believe that the wind + jacket situation is making Bert look fatter than he is, but nah.
Good drive ends with nothing.
All I wanted for Christmas is a running game in 2017...
After the pass to Cam, I'm not sure what Cornelsen was thinking. We're going into a tough wind, Jerod had problems pre-game, so we're doing nothing but pass against one of the worst rush defenses in the country. Huh?
I think this is where people like to say he is 'setting the defense up' rather than criticize.
If that turns out to be it, awesome. But right now, I'm just confused.
I completely agree, simmer down on the passing...
Someone please introduce me to this Travon guy I have been hearing about.
Nothing gets you out of a run game like an opening play fumble.../s
I'm so sick of these slow sloppy starts. I hope the worst is behind us in this game now!
What is with this team and just not being able to get off to an average, let alone good, start.
It's super windy and we're facing one of the worst p5 rushing defenses. Let's throw it a lot.
*facepalm*
Teller and Conte are not helping at all.
I've had the watchESPN app on since 2pm, no issues. And it's starting to mess up now. Nice.
I blame the wind!
No matter how bad their defense is, we don't have an offense of line!
Still not very good blocking.
They're afraid to show replays now even though they successfully split screened the first hurry up.
Nothing worth showing a second time since Cam's catch.
Who is #25 tonight?
http://www.thekeyplay.com/content/2016/december/27/terrell-edmunds-earns...
Virginia Tech Football, making bad defenses look great since 1872...
All jokes aside, I wanna see the same offensive output as the ACCCG. Starting like right now.
Alright, we got them pinned back now. Release the hounds!
I'm not liking this. granted is still early...but
Not only is our offense not off to a great start, our D is looking a little pourous too.
They are beasting on us, we are not as good as a mediocre SEC team right now...
Well this start isn't what I was hoping for...
Middle of the field has been open this entire series. DBs need to adjust.
Welp, another shitty 1st quarter. Hokies have no business losing to this team but I've seen this enough times before.
They're just not into the game, it doesn't look like.
Sigh. Another crappy 1st quarter. And I'll just say that if the targeting rule were fairly called, that would be a targeting call on the offensive player against Shegog.
Well crap!
What a disappointment. Real shit effort so far.
I've got a crazy idea...how about we stop spotting team leads?! Good news, we've got them right where we want them!
Inside run defense looking strong, but poor pass rush and wide-open slants are killing us. Offense needs to respond.
Henri Murphy is going to house a kick or two in his time at VT. He sees the seam and hits it with authority, as long as Woody Baron doesn't step in his way :)
Ah good. Another fumble.
IT'S GEORGIA TECH ALL OVER AGAIN
We bad
We really bad
Where is mook Reynolds?
He is the nickle/whip hybrid. With all of this beef, it looks like they've gone with the straight whip in Shegog.
Lucked out there. That was a fumble.
Lucky on that call.
That's a fumble IMO. I'm glad the rule worked in our favor, but I think it should have been a fumble.
Eh, the slowed down replay made it look like that. The defender basically punched it out the second Ford got the ball tucked.
And another gameday thread bursts into flames.
Man, this is tame. Now, after that pick...
You say this literally every freaking game. What do you want? Us to praise the freaking interception? Being down 10-0? Blind fucking optimism? What? What would make you so happy?
Are they playing great, no. But comments like "we are really bad" or it's over I mean come on.
Down 17-0 in the first quarter isn't bad to you? What is? What in this thread has been inaccurate so far?
Edit:
That's not to say the team can't pull this out, but to be put off or surprised by negative comments is absolutely baffling to me.
Do you honestly think the football team is bad? That they can't play with SEC teams? Those are the comments. People who are writing the team and players off already.
Until people starting personally attacking players or turning on other TKPers, leave it alone. This is what game threads are, instant reaction and venting.
No, I don't think they are bad as a whole. I think they look like complete dog shit right now and you are kidding yourself if you think this is what a good football team should look like. Hopefully the 2nd half ND team shows up and these horrendous 1st quarter woes fall by the wayside. At least we have an offense that can dig us out of the 17 point hole it helped dig.
I dont know anymore. Every week is a different anwser
Stat wise
vs. Ranked (AP) VT Defense
Yards Allowed per Attempt 7.14
Points Allowed 39
Edit:
Removed. While true, it served no purpose. Hopefully I get the edit in before anyone comments.
Goddamn wind got the ball.
I'm not sure if it was as much the wind as Evans not setting his feet and driving that ball.
My goodness we're awful
yep, all fucking over again.
Was that even Evans on the field that play? It couldn't have been.
Hello darkness my old friend
1 more minute and then we are done with this fucking first quarter and can maybe start footballing?
What a terrible pass by Evans. You can't throw that ball into the wind like that.
Tennessee all over again, we have no business playing SEC teams, they are way too good and way too out of our league. The facts are the facts, from this game and Battle at Bristol. Oh well maybe one day we will be able to play with the SEC but not right now.
Please read the guidelines before down voting...Thanks!
I got you +1. My heart says no, the scoreboards say yes.
Appreciate it guys, I hate that the game is this way but the score from this game does not appear to be getting any better and to win I'd give all my legs for a 10 win season!
I didn't down vote you, but I disagree that our "shoot ourselves in the foot" effort against Tennessee and a quarter of action today are sufficient evidence that we don't belong on the field with the SEC. Head up Hokie!
Much appreciated!
How is this a down vote being appreciative to someone? SMH!!!
Dude, don't sweat an incidental -1 on a gameday thread. The post lags and people frequently have errant clicks/taps on phone. I offset it.
Well, let's see if tonight is GT or ND all over again.
I'll take ND on steroids for 1000 Alex
Turned it off. We're getting shitty Jerod that showed up for GT and Syracuse. Hope JJ will be ready next year.
Pssssst we won.
You didn't miss much...
...only the greatest game in Hokie history.
Team looks like shit
it's the first god damn quarter
This game is over
Bud, MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENT, NOW!!!
All that talk about players skipping "meaningless bowl games" got to their heads. These guys don't care about this one.
This has a GT feel. Fuck it. We might get rolled by this damn team
We're gonna get rolled by this team. Badly.
Well at least the defense came to play.
There's not enough alcohol in the world to numb my current feelings.
This team talked like they wanted this 10 win season but all they've done on the field says otherwise.
Someone smarter than me will have to tell me why the middle of the field has been open on every Arkansas possession. Getting out-schemed? Out of position? Really frustrating to see all these Arkansas receivers wide open all the time.
On the last touchdown, you see we had 2 defenders bite on the playaction. Definitely someone was out of position.
Don't understand why we keep airing it out in 20mph winds, and then It looks like the defense has just given up and isn't even trying
Pathetic.
I said it before the game , it's hard to judge how a team might come out and we are playing like poooooo no other way to say it.
"Virginia Tech scores 31 unanswered to beat Arkansas 31-17"
"Virginia Tech scores 31 unanswered to
beatforce OT against Arkansas 31-1731"Who would have thought that this would have ended up being an underestimation.
Current Status: LOL.
Sigh.
Ok. Well at least the 2nd quarter is going to start soon. I don't think we can give up more than 7 more points before then.
The team DID NOT prepare for this game at all. Absolute embarrassment. Fix the fucking shit.
I hate this game
I'm frustrated about us still attempting all of these passes, but Arkansas's QB doesn't seem to be having any problems.
Also, our Oline blows at run blocking, so there is that too.
Somebody send French's analysis to Bud and Cornelsen so we can get this shit right.
I'm not really sure why some are surprised...we have more than enough of a sample size to know we've played from behind a lot this year.
IF our team quit as quickly as some fans, we wouldn't be in a bowl.
That's all!
Arkansas definitely seems more jacked for this game than we do. They have something to prove that they are better than middle of the pack SEC and we have the ACC championship loss was good because it was only by seven with a chance at the end toward Clemson.
Frustrating. I just don't think we have it this game. I think we'll score obviously but after giving them a 17-0 start hard to overcome.
I hear you, but I refuse to buy this argument. If you don't want to be there, I would hope a coach would pick up on that and sit your ass.
I'm not sold on Corny. It's like he can't see the game before him. Run up the middle hasn't worked all year. Quick hitting miss-direction 10-12 yards per play. Which one will he call..:
He definitely seems to need at least 3-4 series before the offense gets going. It has been a theme all year. Even against UVA, we didn't score til late in the 1st.
When was the last time Fuente called a game? Memphis or TCU?
Memphis. He gave up playcalling sometime last season, IIRC.
This team definitely doesn't do anything half-way...when they decide they want to play shitty; they go full level-10 diarrhea.
I don't understand how you could play so incredibly awful equally on both sides of the ball.
WHAT THE FUCK ARE WE DOING
Losing
If we've ever had an offense that I believed could come back from 3-4 scores down, it would be this year's
Even kick coverage sucks tonight.
Time to put in Lawson
Special teams not covering their gaps either. Thought it twas nice seeing Settle pick up the opponent. Really need this team to start laying the smackdown on some hogs before helping to pick them up.
Jerod is just not playing well right now. I'd like to see a replay, but if you are only picking up 2 yards on the option, you probably should have pitched.
Pichman was covered. D made the play on it (although our O-Line didn't do us any favors.)
Someone came off that DT block and let him destroy Evans.
we're just too damn slow
No pressure they don't even need Williams to run the ball.
We are utterly lost on both sides of the ball. It looks like we watched absolutely zero tape on this team.
Defense is playing super soft. Watch the corner backs and dbs not fight with any effort to get off blocks. LBs are getting swallowed up. DE are no where to be seen. Only DTs are playing tough. Just watch close.
Damn, the team that lost to Syracuse showed up
Team that played Syracuse plus the 2nd quarter against UT plus the 1st quarter against ND is what we have here. All with GT-level energy.
This is gonna linger into the offseason.
Its going to linger into recruiting.
Winning or losing a Bowl Game is probably not going to change the world, but getting absolutely embarrassed will definitely open some eyes and provide fodder for negative recruiting from rival recruiters.
Guys, we're playing in a NFL stadium. It almost never goes well for us in Pro stadiums.
Good thing our opener next year isn't in a pro stadium!
Finally got the wind behind them and then ran the ball.
What more really needs to be said? The shit execution, shit play, shit adjustments, shit everything is completely self-explanatory.
Wins help cure recruiting woes!
I wish Facyon would wrap up on his tackles. He really just throws his body at the runner.
That pass could and should've been intercepted.
So, opinion poll so I get the terminology right. Are we "getting belked" or are we "belking all over ourselves" right now?
I already belked everything. I'm dry belking now
It's the helmets.....we always play shitty in new helmets
Don't know why the 2 defenders on the edge backed off on the pass. There wasn't a single receiver remotely close to them nor woudl they have been able to stop it.
Really need to force a turnover here.
That one should've been intercepted also.
So who is turning this off?
*raises hand*
One more and I will. Last hokie football for awhile.
I'm THIS close but I'm trying not to be a bad fan...
I'm just gonna walk away for a while. Piss poor preparation yet again. Fuente and his staff look in over their heads right now. Incredibly disappointing.
Nope it's the last chance we get to see the Hokies play till next season.
Please tell me you guys didn't actually turn it off.
I think I am. I'd rather watch Mary Poppins with my little girl. We've got a new hot air popcorn maker that should be exciting for her and I don't want to miss that.
I took a break at 10-0 to eat dinner, then my saw it was 24-0. Watching the caps game until the 2nd half starts, then I'll give it a brief chance to turn around.
I'm Really not sure how much easier the D could make this for them.
Absolutely no pressure on the QB (with copious holding along the O-Line). And wide open receivers all over the middle of the field.
Got to Love Bud, but this is friggin embarrassing.
The sad thing is this debacle, and let's be honest with ourselves it's over already, is going to stick around well into the offseason and hurt any momentum we had going
When can we stop claiming we're DBU?
This is a disappointing way to end the season...
For the first time since the Stanford game, I'm turning a Virginia Tech game off.
I will be leaving at halftime...
Please please tell me you didn't.
24-0. Apparently the only acceptable response in this thread:
Really though, I've been watching Travelers on Netflix. It's calling to me hard. I'm holding off though, because we've played from behind A LOT and seem to start catching fire mid 2nd quarter through the end of the game. Both sides of the ball really need to start showing life.
Does anyone know the biggest deficit we've come back from this year?
17? I think we were down 17 to ND
We have the offense. If they stop shitting and get off the pot we might still have a chance. If they put up 24 in a little over a quarter, our offense can too. Just need the stars to align.
I want to say 17 against ND.
Down 21 to CLEMSON and they are a lot better than Arkansas.
Good point. We still lost, but everyone was generally happy with the fight, grit, and results. However I don't see any way a loss here, regardless of fight, will look good.
Yeah, clawing back against a playoff team is a lot different from clawing back against a middle-of-the-pack, 7-5 SEC team.
Yeah but we lost that game...
To the point above, a close lose in this game is analogous to still shitting our pants as a team.
need to return those $200 belk gift cards...
250!
The way the game is going, you'd think the ACC made us give Arkansas our game plan in addition to the $25K fine for WakeyLeaks.
"Meanwhile for Virginia Tech, this is turning into a disaster"
Please, it's already way past a disaster.
Now I'm worried about our on the fence recruits .
So... this game. Have we started playing it yet?
That ESPN guy's argument that it wasn't a TD was the most ridiculous thing I have heard all year. We need to score some points so they have something interesting to talk about.
Not even fucking trying. This is making a very non compelling case to recruits AND potential investors in the Hokie Club. What and how much fucking cash is it gonna take to get us from this piece of shit to a consistent top 10 team that WINS THE FUCKING GAMES THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO!?!? Forget the Natty Champ! Just PLEASE make this shit stop.
I'm gonna agree with you here. I am a Hokie Club member, and we keep getting encouragement to increase our donations or have new members join because we're on the verge of really taking off as a program. This does not give anyone confidence in this program at all. You can't come out and get continually embarrassed on national TV and look totally unprepared and expect people to give more and more. And we expect recruits to not see this too? Something is going to have to change with this program, because this is the same BS we've grown accustomed to.
See what a change in coaching can do?
Did we watch any film this week? Or did they spend the whole week on a shopping spree or riding in race cars.
French said that Arkansas is running plays they haven't shown this year.
Obviously...its a bowl game...that's what most teams do.
We, on the other hand, are running the exact same offensive plays we have run (mostly unsucessfully) all year.
If we expected them not to run some different schemes then we are oblivious. That doesn't explain being unable to cover a TE running in the middle of the field, especially after the 3rd 25+ yard throw they've made.
This is rid-goddmann-diciuous! Buds needs to either sit back or blitz, we're doing both and getting torched. Then he needs to punch Corny in the mouth. This is the worst playcallibf against a terrible D I've ever seen. This OL coulnd't block against air.
Corny and Vice both are still questionable to me.
The OL really doesn't look much better than it has, they certainly can't run-block and have made many very average to bad D-lines look stellar this year.
Corny seems to need the whole first half to figure out what is going on and make adjustments. Unfortunately, that isn't going to cut it at this level.
Nice of Arkansas to spot us some yards
Ok it's time to pull the starters and give the young players some game experience.
Wat gif
Moto, fayson, alexander and the o-line look completely disinterested in playing today. Why not let some of the backups play in a game that is already lost? I know we have no depth at lb and do but put someone out there that wants to play.
I'm sorry FAM....
Reminds me of Stanford.......Not a clue.
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No pressure
Offence looks like this:
Bud aint saving us here.
Bielema got into Fuente/Cornelson's head talking about experimenting with a 3-4?
Wow, Bucky gets leveled and no flag? That was atrocious.
Second big missed call on Arkansas.
Stunningly pathetic performance. No excuses for this. Feel sorry for the people who went to Charlotte.
i love each and every one of you guys, and my team.
i have to stop watching, and I'm going for a walk in the snow. i hope you guys understand.
Go Hokies.
Even the refs have given up on us in this one.
They just need to start fucking blasting people. The refs obviously aren't calling holds (offensive or defensive) or PIs. Fucking let it rip dudes. Mug the shit out of everyone. Slap ear holes. Make the refs flag you before you stop.
When is the spring game?
Not sure but I'm predicting a Hokies win
Edmunds is having an amazing year.
you have to be fucking kidding me
No pass coverage? WHAT?
Facyson should've knocked the ball away. Shit coverage. Mitchell is not impressing me.
Facyson is getting beat every play.
WTF is up with Facyon? Poor coverage, bad angle on the tackle.
Thank you Mook.
Over under on Allen having 600 yards passing?
Just embarassing.
And Malik Willis reopens his recruitment during the game. But I'm sure it's just a coincidence
Hey recruits, come here and help stop the bleeding!
Guys, I'm at the game...it is bad. So bad. At least you can buy booze in the stadium.
What makes this hurt so bad, is I was excited to watch this team play. They have a great way of sucking any enthusiasm out of you.
Fortunately, this feeling usually subsides by March-ish.
Allen needs to be put in the dirt on every damn snap. Make him PAY for the success he's had by punishing his body.
Tough to do when we're constantly bouncing off their 350 lb guards and tackles.
But they aren't even getting close to him.
LOL, time to do something with it. Normally I'd agree but this game says otherwise. The commercials we are cutting to are more interesting than our offense tonight.
honestly at this point, i'm hoping we atleast score twice
Bring in Motley!
/s
Feels like it is time for a Lawson reference; however, I'll stick with avoiding the automatic down votes instead.
I would happily upvote that.
There was a guy in front of me on the first row screaming this in the 1st quarter where our players could hear. I almost punched him in the mouth.
I'm beyond hoping or caring about a successful outcome to this game. I'm just hoping this rum and coke that's mostly rum at least makes it funny.
There's a Breaking Bad marathon on AMC. That's what I'll be watching.
Nice
OL is absolutely horrible. What is that 4 sacks so far??
Run up the middle - lose 2 yards.
Against a "horrible" run defense
Your 1st downs and yds mean jack shit if you don't turn them into points.
Our OL literally cannot block air.
Arkansas has literally a historically bad run defense and hey look like the fucking Steel Curtain out there.
For shame
1985 Bears
When was the last time we went scoreless in a half?
Malik WIllis just decommitted...
2016 just claimed its next victim. Us.
Good news, we get the ball to start the second half /s
I knew it! Trailing in TOP!
Well, I have a 1 liter masskrug and a half barrel of beer in the kegerator. That is far more interesting than this ballgame.
I think I see the problem - we're losing TOP. [ducks]
Bad SEC defense,is damn good against the rest of the country.
Im not even going to say much about the offense, this is the first year. No question the fumble set the tone for this game as it did in the GT game. The Oline isn't all that and we should be playing better. But we will never be any good with the depth we have at Defensive end. We haven't had depth there in 5 years, probably more. We lose our best players on D next year in Baron and Williams. Facyson needs to go be a doctor. Nobody makes plays. Until that starts happening, we will be an average team. Edmunds brothers only bright spot. If Ford and Hodges leave, and maybe Teller. Get ready for a rough season next year.
This is the 14th game of the first year. No excuses to be this piss poor on that side of the ball. Fuente may need to do some serious soul-searching and make some changes this offseason. This is unacceptable.
The O-Line sucks, a WR that will probably leave for the NFL is dropping passes, and we have no running game. I agree, it is unacceptable. The oline got blew up against Clemson, and is doing so today as well. Anytime they are forced to compete, the curl up in the fetile position. To quote Cowherd.
Welp....I'm done here. Happy drinking, everyone.
This would be the textbook definition of how not to end your season. A close loss would have been upsetting but not a huge deal, but this crap is going to linger into the offseason and definitely have a negative impact on recruiting and perception of the Program.
I'm not sure what to say. It really and honestly looks like we did absolutely nothing to prepare for this game. I don't want to blast our coaches, but I don't know how you can look at this kind of performance and not think that some serious discussions need to happen about game-prep and playcalling. Hopefully we can dig out of this a create some positive momentum in recruiting in the next month. Go Hokies, on to 2017.
Why not blast the coaches? Unlike the kids, they get paid a lot of money to prepare for a game like this. They clearly did not do their job. They are grown men and deserve every bit of criticism that comes their way.
If the game ends this badly, it might reset the reset we were hoping the Hokies were making this 1st year.
Foster needs to sit some asses. Corny needs to take a knee and give playcalling to Fuente.
Why did they blow that fucking whistle? Let them play.
Pathetic. Useless. Those are 2 words that come to mind while watching this "team" tonight. Hey, who is the OL coach?
You're up 24-0 asshole.
Charge Arkansas delay of game charging their coach
The refs have lost control of the game.
This delay is ridiculous.
The definition of ridiculous.
At this point, a Fuente-Bielema fist fight would be more interesting than our performance.
About that; Arkansas never possessed the ball.
This game has totally gone out of control. The refs should definitely be suspended. Looks like Tech is going to lose, even though we're playing poorly, bad officiating always trumps everything
Arkansas never had possession. The fact that Bielema was allowed to whine for 5 minutes on the field is a travesty and the officials have lost any semblance of control over the game.
Replay has ruined the delight of watching a football game. 80% of the game we have to hear about "indisputable evidence . . . blah blah blah."
This delay has nothing to do with replay. Why in the hell didn't the replay official look at it during the 5 minutes bielima was whining
I agree 100%. They review way too many plays and then get it wrong half the time. They complain about the length of the games, change the rules to make the clock run more and shorten the game but we spend more time waiting on the referees. Every big play you know a review is coming, it is annoying. You cant enjoy your team scoring a TD having to worry about some BS review that could take it away. Best and most notorious example is the Michigan Sugar Bowl. Call should have stood on the field.
Fuck Bret Bielema
Not even mad. Rub their face in the mud Brett. Maybe this will light a fire under this coaching staffs ass. Maybe they will actively try to prevent this recurring shit show from ever happening again.
Bielema's wasting time here...
What a bunch of spineless officials letting a coach talk them into a call. Total horseshit.
So they never possessed the ball and they get the ball.
Everything's made up and nothing matters.
Fuck that bullshit. We're stinking it up but that's the worst call ever...
Are you fucking kidding me?!?!?!?
WHAT?!?!??!!
This is CRAZY..
LOL
WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK IS GOING ON.
what in the fucking bullshit fucking hell
A while ago, someone on here made the comparison between this year's team and Clemson a few years ago, when they began their ascent to prominence. This is the West-Virginia-Orange-Bowl phase. Right. On. Schedule.
I'm going back to these whistle happy refs. What the fuck is wrong with them. You don't call fouls in the interest of letting the boys play, yet you blow plays dead before they are done.
These refs ARE incompetent
The game is fixed. Does anyone know what conference do these clowns work for?
Big 12 for the on the field incompetents. Not sure about the booth, maybe Pac12 again.
Thanks. Completely incompetent.
Oh my fucking goodness - no body possessed the ball at all. How does it stay with Arkansas? And we recovered the ball anyway. This is suck fucking bullshit!
I'M DRUNK AT A BAR CAN'T HEAR SHIT PLEASE TELL ME HOW THE EFF WE DIDN'T GET THE BALL THERE.
People that are that bad at their occupation should be fired and never allow to participate in that occupation again. How do people like that get paid?
That call probably won't be what cost us the game, but that's easily what I'm most upset about.
Guys, we NEED to hire an outside efficiency consultant expert to make sure the coaches are DOING THEIR JOBS CORRECTLY. Period. If the coaches do their jobs correctly, it (mostly) will trickle down. But they CANNOT be trusted.
Go away
Uh...??
YES!!! THIS!!! BUT DON'T STOP THERE!! ALSO HIRE CONSULTANTS EVEN MORE OUTSIDE TO OVERSEE THE EFFICIENCY CONSULTANTS. SEC HAS EFFICIENCY CONSULTANTS 4-5 LAYERS DEEP!!!
Not sure if /s but honestly, if that's what it takes
Oh, wow. Bless your heart.
Best. Response. Possible.
Here we go. Every game. Can you come back tomorrow please?
My feeling is that the refs should be regulated by the Federal Government, or maybe even the UN. I wouldn't mind paying some additional taxes (for example, a referee tax) if necessary.
/s
Offense is crap, defense is horrible, and the ref's are the crooked thing since crinkle fries.
I don't think this is malicious. It is incompetence.
AND THE PAC-12 OFFICIAL CREW STRIKES AGAIN
We're down 24, but STILL...
I think they're big 12, but the point still valid.
You are correct, sir.
We'll just call them (wildcard)-12 refs. Same number, same result.
This team better come out in the second half savage as fuck and actively trying to rip bodies in half. Blow mother fuckers up. Everything is against you. Get gritty as hell and take this game back. Fucking hit people.
Also, that was some bullshit ass calls. Whistle was prematurely blown with the ball actively bouncing. Tech clearly recovered the ball.
The defense's hair was on fire after Arkansas was giftwrapped the ball. Hopefully that carries over.
I"m so very tired of these incompetent refs. It's everywhere, across the board. They really need to start being held accountable. This makes me so sad.
We need "play under protest" in football like they do in baseball.
Nothing to see here.
Oh hey, 3 points. I feel so good. At least it's only down 21, three scores. Our offense, if they ever stop shitting and get off the pot, can put those points up. This team needs to come out fired up.
Also, can we start 'Fuck Brett'
Edit:
Shit, I typed that too soon and accidentally hit post. I fucked that up, I jinxed it. Put this ugly shit show game on me.
You're up by 24 going into halftime and you're going to ice the kicker?
Bret Bielema is quickly approaching Fuck Pat Narduzzi territory for me.
He's already there for me. Fuck Bret Bielma
Agreed. But at least his team came prepped, ready and is executing correctly.
I hated him before the game, this just justifies it for me.
It worked though, didn't it?
He's way past it.
Their coach said that he's on the rules committee, sounds like he gets to make up his own rules.
This.
He even said his guy had possession which he didn't. Ever. What the fuck?
Apparently the refs told him they had possession....he couldn't have seen that from the other side of the field. Which means these refs should never be working anything but MAYBE pee-wee football ever again.
We've been bad this half....BUT WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCKING FUCK????
The refs take the cake for being bad this half. That was a TERRIBLE sequence. First you're gonna let a coach whine on the field for about 7 minutes and then take another 4 minutes to make THAT bullshit call? What in the name of......
Fuck Pat Narduzzi. Fuck Bret Bielema. Fuck everything. Fuck Pac 12/Big 12/ACC....fuck refs.
Well....I have officially found a new hatred this season for pat narduzzi and now bret beilama that wont die until they do.
Man, that was one bad half of football.
That's an understatement!
outreffed, outplayed, and outcoached.
But not outclassed. Fuck Bielima.
Alexander and face on look like they're scared to cover. Our o-line is not doing squat. She looks like old days are back.
Come on Coach, fire them up!!!
Its now "Fatboy B"
My wife just like "Shit, they are in Charlotte? Why didn't we go?" I just pointed at the screen. Too much money and time needed, especially at this hectic and expensive time of the year, to go and waste money like that.
I was excited for this game and had seriously considered going, but I'm pretty freaking happy with my decision right now. I don't expect us to win every game, but I absolutely DO expect us to actually show up.
And now, hindsight being 20/20?
I stand by my halftime feelings. I'm amazed and excited that we won, but I don't regret missing the game in person.
Although, with this much grit, people will be hard pressed to find excuses to not financially support Virginia Tech Football.
I don't even know...
Bailed on it. Watching a movie. See you guys in 2017.
This is why I don't spend money on VT sports. Can't be sure I get any value.
Have faith, or at least hope!
Can someone give this guy a call?
A friend told me we had scored to make it 24-14. I told him if we scored again before they did then I'd turn it back on. Moments later he texted me to turn it back on, so I watched the 21st point until the end of the game.
Sadly, I think we come back big after the stall closes up for the night. Didn't the stall close early against Notre Dame as well?
No, it was closed up against Pitt. I was in South Bend.
After watching this team all year and their lack of quit, all I have to say, and pun intended is- Lame Horse.
Well deserved, I'd say. Got back to it eventually.
Big 12 refs intimidated by an SEC team.
What is life?
Well whatever happens this game at least we can still compete for the ACC pretty regularly. Arkansas gets to compete for the SEC like once a decade so that should be fun.
My black lab's terrified of loud noises and is nowhere to be seen. Mrs. Smlltwnsthrnlwyr is unhappy with my raging and throwing things.
Fat bret bielogna is a fucking fat piece of shit. Might hate him more than nardouche. As a broncos fan who benefitted from the play that caused the change across football vis a vis 'inadvertent whistles'. Awarding beilogna the ball for crying like a bitch for ten minutes is a travesty. Arkhole never possessed the ball. Even with the muff, doesn't possession stay with the receiving team unles/until possession by the kicking team? Like if cam had muffed it then an arkhole player touched it out of bounds, it's still ours. I'm seriously baffled. I hope allen gets his head blown off in the second.
Here's what I think happened...the on field official did not understand what the call was...the penalty being accepted would have given VT the ball on their 29...either way the refs blew it!
The TV announcers seem to understand the rules pretty clearly. Strange that they feild rers and the ones in the Box didn't know or understand how to apply the rules
As we saw in the PITT game, the refs have no balls and can be bullied. Bret probably said "Look, I'm on the rules committee and this is the rule. Don't believe me? Go look it up. I'll wait along with everyone here and at home." Those dumb asses blindly took his word for it.
Just got off work only to find out I can't watch the game, Laaser/Burnop aren't streaming on VT Gameday app, and I'm stuck listening to ESPN radio. And I have but one question:
WTF???
Here is my in-depth summary of what is going on:
Good synopsis it appears (minus the smiley face)....
Oh, that must be a ref
So, this game...
Narduzzi may be a douche, but he's our douche. This just pisses me off. At least Narduzzi knew when he crossed the line and had to get off the field eventually.
That was the most prolonged booing I've ever heard in a stadium
I hesitate to ask which fanbase, but I already have an idea.
im going to hang! We are prepared like a pile of batshit. Again Stanford. No progress there.
Our oline still sucks ass. I am so fucking sick of saying that. I would put a pic of a goat#$%^ up here that would really describe the game but ...............
So glad I did not waste my money.
That 10 minute delay to figure out the fumble is what is really turning me off to all of college football. The refs in this game are pussies.
Fuck Fatboy B.
That was the worse sequence of officiating Ive ever seen. Maybe not the single worse call, but close. How in the hell did they get the ball back where the punted from? That makes zero since, I thought they had just switched the fields by accident and nobody noticed. All of these reviews have not added anything to college football, it has taken away. They review way too many plays and half of them they still get wrong. Don't even care that we are losing 24-0, that just takes all interest away from me. They have about ruined the game with rules and sorry officiating. I wont be watching the second half and as much as I used to love college football, it just isn't the same.
As bad as the ref's call was -- didn't they also give Arkansas the ball going the wrong direction?? I'm serious. If it's going to be Arkansas ball, it should have been on the VT side of the field. But, they gave Arkansas the ball on the Arkansas side of the field.
Seriously, rewind and watch it again. I'm pretty sure the refs are completely off on this.
What am I missing?
you are correct...if the recovery was to VT and penalty accepted, we would have gotten the ball around the 29. If they were awarding the pigs the ball it should have been on the VT side where it was allegedly recovered.
Mrs. Smlltwnsthrnlwyr convinced me that that spot was correct. I'm still not sure. And can't rewind back enough because Inchanged it while fat fuck was bitching on his way off the field.
Hey this is just a meaningless bowl game. What's everyone so mad about??
(Former VP of NFL officiating, for those that don't recognize the name)
Bingo! I stand by my belief the on field ref didn't understand the ruling!
Edit, replied to wrong comment
It looks like the worst bowl loss this year is Tulsa over Central Michigan 55-10. Lets not beat that.
How bad is it that I just don't want us to be the most embarrassed team of bowl season?
The only thing I can think of that makes 0.0001% sense is that due to the fact that there was a holding penalty and Arkansas "officially" had possession of the ball (only due to the inadvertent whistle), the "inadvertent whistle rule" does not apply (due to a loophole). This gave Arkansas the opportunity to accept the penalty, which resulted in replaying the down with the benefit of the penalty yards.
. . . however, being on the Rules Committee is NOT one of my hobbies; unlike Coach Big.
Worst. Call. Ever.
Capital One Bowl Mania...except for when the Hokies play, we're watching Capital One LOLmania
There seems to be a greater anger towards the officiating than the lack of efficiency from our team. Interesting.
The refs are paid for the job they do. I try to make it a practice to not be upset with the players for any in-game mistakes. Before the season, I also resolved to give the coaches a lot of leeway for first year blunders, and I don't think this game is an exception.
Hey look a Joey Slye touchback.
Halftime my wife says F it I'm going to the gym. Meanwhile I am halfway through a cheesecake and case of beer. We all deal with trauma differently....
The last time an AP ranked team was held scoreless by a non-ranked team in the first half of a bowl game was 2011 FSU/ND. FSU went on to win the game ultimately, so maybe hope?
Not counting on it, this whole game fucking sucks, but who knows
Nice stat! Unfortunately, it is applicable to us in this game. =(
2nd half def looking better, sofar
We're a long way from a win, but there's no room on the bandwagon if we pull this off.
Through thick and thin!
Finally fucking THANK YOU (albeit probably too late). But THANKS nonetheless.
Woody Barron looks fired up!
Baron recovering it like 15 yards down field. Good hustle buddy.
So much for the donut Bielma. Suck on that!
TECHMEN WE'RE TECHMEN
WITH SPIRIT TRUE AND FAITHFUL
Alright 3 plays after the TO and TD!
#ShockTheWorld
How big is that missed field goal now? Down 14 sounds a lot easier than down 17 for some reason.
LET'S GO
via GIPHY
HOKIES
So, evidently my ESPN3 is several minutes behind. I got a notification of Evans' TD run before even seeing the beginning of the second half.
"ESPN3" is short for their full name: "ESPN - 3 Minutes Behind the Real Action"
Ha, that blows. Turn off all notifications!
My aunt let me turn to the game early in the 2nd half. She's a nice lady.
So after the explanation given by the commentator, what would have happened if there was no VT penalty? Would it have been a do over?
And the commentator just answered - would have been our ball. That rule if fucked up!
Think of it like any other play, not a punt. Let's say Arkansas threw a pass and we picked it off, but there was a holding penalty on a VT defender. It negates the INT, no change of possession. After my initial outrage, the call is correct, albeit one that you're never likely to see again.
I can sorta see the logic. I always thought that possession changed as soon as the ball crossed the line of scrimmage on a punt, but I guess its when you actually field the punt or its downed. Doesn't help my homerism, though. Also, it took me until halftime to figure out that they marked the penalty off from the previous spot and not the point of "supposed" recovery.
Alexander looks like he's not playing at all
Touchback Dude . . . call it!!!!!
Alexander has lost his confidence.
So, after the ref explanation I still have no fucking clue what is going on.
Do you believe in un-luck?
YEAH CLARK!!! MAKE HIM PAY! HURT HIM!
Be classy, don't hope for injuries.
I said hurt him, not put him in a bod bag. Quit purposely misinterpreting me and watch the damn game.
Damn, everything going Arkansas's way. What the hell man.
They'll come back to break our hearts at the end...
I'll give our guys credit, the energy is completely different this half. They look like they WANT it. Let's out scrap them this half and claw our way back now. One play at a time.
How fucked up is this game?
C'mon Evans, make a decision.
A couple of positive plays and then boom, negative play. Come on Jerod, dig us out of it. Move the sticks!
Bud needs to dial up a turnover!
You have to go for that in a bowl game down 17. It's not like it will cause us to miss the playoffs this year if we don't convert.
I'm OK with that call there. It's still a little early IMO to be going for it in that field position. Especially with a Bud Foster defense.
Fair point. I feel as though that we had some momentum that a 1-2 yard play was a very high probability in that situation.
That's very true as well! That was a tough call to make either way. In Fu we trust.
Whatever
The game today has turned into powder puff.
You can't hit hard anymore?
Man. That's legit targeting on Terrell. :(
EDIT: Apparently I don't know what anything is anymore.
That was not targeting! He didn't even throw the forearm, he was putting both arms around to tackle the player
How the hell is Ark 0/7 (now 1/8) on third downs and up 24-7?
More BS about targetting. Edmunds kept his head up and went to wrap up.
And I think that was the difference - but I am surprised we got the call.
Edit:
Deleted my rant. The refs made it right.
First time I've seen targeting overturned in one of our games.
Hence my earlier comment. They've got me messed up.
I don't understand targeting but I am glad it worked out.
Te Edmunds out for the first half of the WVU game
iswould not have been ideal.Honestly surprised they overturned that...that feels like a makeup for the punt/muff/recovery debacle.
No matter what I think we are going to need a pick six or punt return to win this thing. Some type of quick score.
SHEGOG IT'S WHIP
INT!!!!!!!
Good. Now, what are ya gonna do offense?
How was that not holding on that QB keeper?
No kidding. It looked like our player was being pulled backwards.
Shegog is on fire tonight!
And the QB paid to stay in there and throw that INT.
Come on offense, step up!
I'm not going to personally attack players but our offensive line is not good.
OL just getting whipped
Cam!!!
Cam Phillips is a bonafide baller.
We need to roll Evans out a bit. The O-Line is not keeping the pocket long enough,
"Offensive line, offensive line, wherefore art thou offensive line?" - Shakespeare, probably
18 more and Cam is over 1K.
Every time I see Bielmas face up close I instinctively flick off the screen.
BACKING UP OUR TEAM WITH HOPES UNDYING
Sam got the stickum working.
Are the bandwagon fans jumping back on?!!!
I am
Was never off, just bitching up a storm from the middle of it.
Sam Rogers will not be denied. Come on, Hokies. Keep it up!
Amazing hands by Rogers on that iffy throw!
Wish we had that field goal; however, we can still do this!
SAMMY!!! = Hokie
SAM ROGERS GETTIN DAT PUSSY TOUCHDOWN BOYS!!!
Proud of the second half. I regret my crap comments I made in the heat of the moment. These kids really do care and the coaches seem to have gotten their point across. I'm proud to be a Hokie and sorry for my ignorant comments!
We're starting to play like Malik Willis's commitment depends on it!
Attention Whit - please inform the coaches that game time is at least 1 hour earlier than it actually is. Thank you.
I said that in the bowl announcemt. Tell Fuente kickoff is at 4:30.
Cam at 983 receiving yards and 138 rushing yards on the year.
No jinx. See it can't happen because I headed it off.
FUCK
YES
I JUST SCARED THE FUCK OUT OF MY WIFE YELLING AND I DON'T CARE