Anyone else worried about Mac McClung?

Kid is from SW Virginia and I'm pretty sure his dad played football at VT. I completely trust Buzz and company's evaluation but something about this kid makes me a little nervous. Really hope he continues to play well but don't want another Steph Curry situation where I shudder with regret every time I watch him play.

He just hit a long three to send Georgetown into overtime against Providence and has had a 38 point game a few weeks ago as a true freshman.

Has anyone else been following this kid and are you worried that he might become another big miss?

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Was he interested in VT? Part of the evaluation is interest.

Not sure, but I assume so given his connection. I don't think he was very highly rated even though he had a ton of dunk highlight reels that went viral. Georgetown was one of his only major offers.

From what I heard He didn't want to go too tech and buzz didn't want him

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Hard to imagine not wanting to play for the regional school where your dad played football. To each their own I guess.

You mean like the football recruit Jesse Hanson? It happens all the time.

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Hard to imagine not wanting to play for the regional school

A lot of kids want to attend college at a place that is completely different from where they grew up. Can't blame a kid who grew in rural VA for wanting to spend some time in the city.

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Yep, it totally depends on the individual. Lots of people want to get out and experience living in another area, and lots of people would rather stay somewhere that feels like "home" for school. The decision becomes very easy for an athlete who is choosing between a bunch of free options. If you grew up in rural VA, or somewhere else in the SE and always wanted to experience something new why not live for free in DC, Cali, or another place you'd otherwise be unable to live so easily, and same works vice versa as well.

Buzz didn't bend over backwards to recruit him and Mac and his dad took offense.

Basketball is way more about the Coach and their style. With 12-15 players, the coaches spend a ton of time with each individual player. They all have to be on board or they're going to be miserable.

McClung is talented, but he's not a Buzz OKG.

no im not, he'd probably be getting wilkins' minutes, his shooting % aren't that good and while he made some big plays today he definitely had moments where he's out of control. we're at a different stage as a program. i wish him well though

Definitely agree he wouldn't be playing nearly as much for us. I see him more as somebody who could develop into an NBA player after 3 more years. He already has the athleticism and confidence, which are key ingredients.

Hand wringing over a player just because he is a local kid is silly. I disagree with it in the Steph Curry situation as well but at least that makes sense.

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There is also the family ties isue like Curry (though different sports). his dad was an o lineman for VT. He completely destroyed RE Lee in the finals last year to. I believe his sister plays soccer at FSU.

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Spent 1 season at FSU, but transferred to Tennessee, and graduated in 2016

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Nope

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

He's a lot better than I thought he'd be, but it's unlikely he's another Curry (both of them). He's a good player but we have good players already and more coming in. I'm more upset that we missed out on VJ King from PVI, but it's hard to compete with Louisville's recruiting parties full of cash and prostitutes.

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He just hit a long three to send Georgetown into overtime against Providence and has had a 38 point game a few weeks ago as a true freshman.

He banked it in.

Still counts.

Don't disagree at all - but it wasn't like he made an insane shot to send them to overtime; he threw up a prayer and it was answered.

Happens a lot at Jesuit schools

/ssssacrilege

You're the only ones that I can talk to about this, you guys.

I cant disagree more, he made a great shot, he is a special player, and it wasn't a prayer. He took an in-bounds pass under Providence's basket with 4 seconds left, dribbled full speed in traffic at a point 30 feet from the basket, pulled up, elevated and while square to the basket hit a clutch shot. As stated below it was on line. Did he mean to bank it, no, but it was a true freshmen who had the confidence to take control of a game. Georgetown is lucky to have him. He has incredible athletic ability, talent, and most of all incredible confidence for an 18 or 19 year old.

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Only if you call it

Nope. Only if you make it. There's no stat line for bank shots, and the shot has to be fairly close and true for it to bank in. Count it, smile, and move on.

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I have connects with some donors at Georgetown - at the moment the program probably needs him more than the reverse. Filled a glaring need on that roster and I actually love that Ewing is throwing him out there and letting him figure it out (their (acknowledged) ceiling this season is probably "NCAA bubble team"). They love his swagger and he's obviously got some crazy athleticism for his size. Agree with the above comment that he's an NBA player if he continues to progress.

& he wasn't a miss for VT - there's nowhere for him to play in Buzz's scheme. We've already got a team full of guards who love to chuck it hahaa. My #sauces were texting me his dunk clips long ago saying "this kid is the future of Hoya hoops"...

You're the only ones that I can talk to about this, you guys.

He's the type of showboat you love on your team and hate on others. Has Buzz recruited a showboat?

And bingo was his nameo

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Yeah, I've hardly watched him but he doesn't strike me as a Buzz guy aka an OKG

I watched his high school mixtape and I was like, "Nah."

I watched his attitude in some videos. Wouldn't have him on team.

Funny, loluva fans feel the same way about Dax.

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He's a decent player but he's shooting 38% from the field and 24% from 3. Seems like a streaky shooter. Good college player, but he's going to have to shoot a lot better and get his tournovers way down to be an NBA regular.

"Worried"? Why?

He is from my high school and played for one of my high school teammates. This bad attitude guy spent hours after games signing autographs and talking to little kids not only from his school but others. He worked his ass off to get where he's at. He attended camps at VT and did not get any offers. If he has had a negative thing to say about VT its news to me and others. GO HOKIES BEAT LOLUVA

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"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

I used to work for Scott County and spent a lot of time with his dad working on materials for cases. But at that time, his daughter was tearing up the high school aged soccer circuits and Mac was playing rec league sports. They are Hokies through and through, but Marcus obviously wants the best for his kids, as evidenced by both of his kids making the most of opportunities presented to them, whether it's in Blacksburg or not.

I don't know if VT showed much interest then he would have committed. But I do remember seeing that he was like a big Iverson fan and the gist I got was because of that, Georgetown was always gonna be a prime spot for him

Am I worried about McClung?

What if Dell Curry's kid was an OK football player and didn't get an offer from Fuente?

(Not sure of McClung's star status while at VT but insert equivalent former basketball player who might have a son playing football)

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Buzz Williams is not Seth Greenberg - we're not going to have another Steph Curry situation under Buzz.

Buzz Williams would not have offered Steph. Steph got where he is today by working extremely hard and improving his game through college and through his first few years in the league with ankle injuries. This is not on Seth Greenberg, the VT AD or any other big program that did not sign him. No one saw his NBA talent in high school because he did not have it.

He averaged 21 points a game as a freshman in college, saying he didn't have the talent isn't correct. People refused to believe he could do it at a high level because of his size and style.

Did he work hard and get better? Yes. Does every single player that makes it to the nba do the same thing? Yes.

No one saw his NBA talent in high school because he did not have it.

I love how most of the guys who blame Greenberg on missing on borderline 3* Steph Curry (and instead got Rivals 100 Lewis Witcher) are the same guys who give Fuente/Beamer shit because "We need 4* and 5* prospects to win championships lulz"

I was the guy that brought up Lewis Witcher and you can go ahead and check my football recruiting comments on here. Nothing but positive things about Fuente/Beamer recruiting.

Edit: Guys were different signing years but Steph was the 256th ranked recruit of his class and Lewis was 174th. Both 3 stars according to 247. Just throwing that out there for people acting like Steph was a 2nd team all district guy from Hidden Valley.

Witcher was from Franklin County

Nonsense. The best player in the history of the school has a son where our coach promised an offer (documented) and after taking his offer and offering another player (believe it was the illustrious 5'7" Hank thorns - not positive on that component) Seth offered him a preferred walk-on spot. He clearly tried to take advantage of the situation. The Curry's never pushed this publicly as Dell is too classy for this, but they clearly felt like that type of person wasn't the type to take their son seriously and they moved on.

Steph had talent, but size was considered the issue. His freshman stats prove it. His HS tape is impressive and Seth didn't have the foresight to see it. Seth's issue was ego in being pushed to take a legacy kid. His ego eventually lost his players respect due (for various reasons not necessarily this situation) and he lost big in the situation.

If the best player in the history of the school has a son who is even close you honor the schollie. His handling of this situation lost the respect of many close to the program. There was a Hokie club meeting where this question was asked to him directly and he handled it so poorly it was obvious that it was his ego speaking vs owning how he treated the Curry's.

Don't let Seth's public version of the story fool you. He bungled this so badly it can't be worse.

This is a situation that will likely never be repeated, but I for one will never have respect for Seth in how he handled it as much as how poorly it turned out for VT.

Please provide the link to where the basketball coach of a top tier university promised a scholarship to a borderline 3 star prospect that no one top school offered. Since you claim it's documented.

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There is a documentary on Steph that came out recently. The Curry family talked about it. I will find and send the link. This was common knowledge within the basketball program and booster circles. Star ratings are only a part of a legacy offer especially with the best player in school history who has been an avid supporter.

When you have one scholarship to give you aren't giving it to a kid just because their parent was good compared to a top 100 player in the nation, this is rewriting history.

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We had three scholarships that year. Nigel Munson, Lewis Witcher and Tyrone Appleton. Appleton ended up not qualifying and going JUCO.

Oh great, this again.

I've generally agreed with your posts and had not heard about the staff offering Curry a scholarship and then pulling it. That would certainly be a bad look, though I think recruits and their families can easily misinterpret promises of offers due to intentionally vague language and salesman tactics commonly used with recruiting. That said the player we signed in that class (only had 1 available scholarship) was Nigel Munson, a top 100 national recruit. It doesn't seem egregious to me to sign Munson and offer Steph Curry a preferred walk-on with scholarship the following year given the overwhelming consensus about each player at the time.

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I get that, but that is a retrospective look at it. At the time, Seth had made it clear to the family they were going to offer and strung the process along. Then the scholarship was given to Munson, the family found out and Seth made this offer under pressure to do so. This "promise" had no teeth and Seth could have easily said no scholarship the next year with no repercussions. Nobody trusted the coaches anymore so the Curry's moved on.

It had a very bad look to boosters and others. How this was handled was an example of how Seth handled lots of situations and he eventually ran out equity within the university.

I have no doubt that Greenberg had long worn out his welcome with the AD and boosters by the time he was fired. However as a student during his tenure, I thought he did a solid job engaging the student body (regular chalk talks and articles in the CT) and helped ignite passion and excitement for men's basketball at VT again. He had a bunch of huge wins and recruited some stud players as well. I think most expected VT to be a doormat in the ACC- like they had been in the Big East- and he showed that VT men's basketball had much more potential than most people thought at that time. I'm not sure we end up with Buzz without Greenberg.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

Agreed. I am not suggesting he didn't have good qualities. The ones you list are among them and some others.

I am simply saying the whole story on this specific situation wasn't out in the public until recently and if you knew he wore out his welcome how he handled this situation should be surprising.

He didn't respect VT legacy dynamics (not money to the person who insinuated that was the meaning). If you aren't going to offer - be straight up about it. Still a mistake in my book (and said at the time), but a different type of mistake. Don't not offer AND alienate the family and tons of alumni who respect the Curry's in the process.

January 9 edition on the Player's Tribune, by Steph... Great read if you have a few mins.

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/stephen-curry-underrated

In his own words....

"I remember the first look I got from a college, during my junior year — when Virginia Tech had some interest.

Or I should say, when Virginia Tech showed some interest.

If you squinted, it didn't seem CRAZY that they might want me: My dad went there.... I'd made a few comments about how I'd like to go there.... and I was even finally starting to put up some numbers.

And when an assistant coach of theirs offered to swing by our school one day — to MEET with me?? Well, let's just say..... I really squinted.

I legitimately started to think they were going to make me an offer.

I suggested we meet "over lunch" — cool move, right? Very professional. Except...... I'm 16 years old, at this small school with 360 kids. And "lunch" literally means "in the cafeteria." In front of the entire student body. So, maybe not so cool.

But the big day gets there, and it's finally lunch time. Their assistant coach walks in. He's got his big Hokies polo on. His big Hokies hat. We shake hands, and sit down, and — let's be really real: at this point I am straight-up feeling myself. WHOLE SCHOOL seems like it's buzzing about me and my meeting. Got a room full of people doing the "I'm not looking (I'm 100% looking)" thing. It's basically a power lunch. I'm on top of the world.

And then.... dude hits me with it.

"Yeah, so — Stephen, thanks for meeting. Really a pleasure. We'd like to invite you to walk on."

Turns out, Virginia Tech was only meeting with me as — well, I wouldn't say a favor to my dad, like he would ever ask for that or anything. But it was more like: a courtesy? A walk-on spot for the legend's son? I'd have to pay my own way.

Or in other words: They were not interested."

Having a conversation with you is like a Martian talking to a Fungo.

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Yes yes Buzz and EVERY top tier basketball conference coach again would not offer Steph Curry, just like none of them offered him out of high school.

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As a note: Seth's stubbornness came into play again with Seth and he didn't offer him out of high school and only after he intended to transfer from
Liberty.

https://youtu.be/kr726dPzIyg

Here is one link. There is another with more specifics, as Steph tries to state it clearly without getting into it too much. Clearly a botched process with Greenberg.

Note - I had the player wrong - Seth gave the scholarship to Nigel Munson who left after 1 season. Steph was offered by VCU as well.

Failure by Seth times 2.

If the best player in the history of the school has a son who is even close you honor the schollie.

If Michael Vick's kid was a 2*/3* QB prospect and we made him an offer over a 4* that wanted to come to VT, there would be a fucking riot on TKP

I'm not privy to Nigel Munson or Lewis Witcher's family finances but I'd venture to guess that their families pragmatically valued the scholarship more than the son of a multimillionaire. Greenberg thought he could get all three and Steph was the third priority probably because he was the worst prospect and his family didn't need the money.

I have no idea why you're specifically targeting Greenburg. Every coach in the country missed on him. Are you mad at Beamer because 2* Russell Wilson wanted to come to Virginia Tech but Beamer didn't make him an offer because we already had 5* Tyrod Taylor?

Who said anything about money? Watch the video on the recruiting process straight from Steph Curry.

To be clear my comments have nothing to do with money and everything to do with respecting people who are a part of the VT family.

Other coaches didn't have 1st hand access to the family, visited him at practice countless times, told him they were going to offer and then changed the plan at the last seconds. HOW he handled this is my point.

This was told to Seth during this process and he ignored it. Don't you think his attitude has something to do with not coaching anymore?

Ps - who cares what people say on a website in regards to making the right decision as a leader. Frank Beamer always treated former players families with 100% class in the recruiting process and didn't mislead them. Seth handled this in the opposite fashion.

Football coaches also have aloe more scholarships to offer to players they know won't see the field. Hell Iowa State did it against Tech to get the commitment of a DL.

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Other coaches didn't have 1st hand access to the family, visited him at practice countless times, told him they were going to offer and then changed the plan at the last seconds. HOW he handled this is my point.

Dude I don't know where you're getting your information from but Stephen Curry was never offered a scholarship at any point in his recruitment, verbally or otherwise. If you can provide tangible evidence that will refute this, by all means post it...I went to high school with a current NFL player. My friend was only offered two scholarships to play football even though 30+ colleges specifically came to visit him at our high school multiple times. Almost every program in the region "offered" him a walk-on spot (including Virginia Tech). I don't think you understand how recruiting works.

Who said anything about money? Watch the video on the recruiting process straight from Steph Curry.

I know the story by heart, I went to Virginia Tech from 2006-2011 and was initially more of a basketball fan than a football fan. I followed the story in real time and watched literally every interview about it that I've gotten my hands on (I've seen the E60 interview and the Graham Bensinger clips multiple times along with reading with countless thought pieces). I brought up money because it's important in context.

Bro, you clearly have axe to grind with Greenburg which is your own prerogative. Greenburg is really well-respected in coaching circles (which is why he got the job at ESPN to begin with), that wouldn't be the case if he as big of a dick as you make him out to be.

You are entitled to your opinion. Last post - not my point. HOW he handled it is the point.

My motives have nothing to do with anything personal. I disagree with your assessment and HOW this situation was handled. Seth has many positive qualities (several were referenced earlier including engaging the student body, his energy etc.), but how he handled certain situations including this were a big negative. Moving on

disagree with your assessment and HOW this situation was handled.

There's a difference between what what actually happened and you're saying what happened. What actually happened was the coaching staff showed interest, scouted the hell out of him, had conversations with him and his family and ultimately decided to offer him a preferred walk-on spot in order to chase more highly ranked prospects. That's not conjecture or my personal interpretation, that's actually what happened.

What you think happened is Greenburg offered him a scholarship and pulled it. There's a big distinction between the two. If you have any article, any YouTube clip, literally anything that proves me wrong, post it and I'll eat crow. Right now, you're just throwing around unsubstantiated claims.

Curry wrote an article for the Players Tribune and there's a vignette on his interaction with the Virginia Tech coaching staff (Link Here). They didn't even him show him much interest as a junior. Curry inferred VT offered him a walk-on spot because he was Dell's son and is a part of the Hokie family. That runs counterintuitive to your initial claim that they "treated him poorly".

If Michael Vick's kid was a 2*/3* QB prospect and we made him an offer over a 4* that wanted to come to VT, there would be a fucking riot on TKP

For the record, both Munson and Steph were 3* recruits. Yes, Munson made the Rivals150, but fans didn't know much more about Curry other than he wasn't on it. Back then, Rivals had their 150 list and that was that...no rankings beyond 150, just stars. The only 4* we got out of that class was Jeff Allen...he showed up a year later after a season at Hargrave.

for the record, Nigel Munson was 4-star recruit according the 247 Composite. 0.96 rating, #99 player and #21 PG nationally.
Steph Curry was a 3-star, 0.855 rating #252 nationally and #54 PG

They were not in the same league as HS prospects.

Curry was offered a PWO with scholarship coming in the future.

People beat Seth Greenburg up over his recruitment and rightfully so, but what about Dell Curry dissing his alma mater? He was a multimillionaire who could sneeze and pay tuition anywhere with the money that fell out of his pocket. A scholarship shouldn't have been any kind of issue for Curry. PWO = we want you here but we don't have a scholarship available.

Obviously Steph wanted to go somewhere he was valued as a player and not just as a legacy, and that where Greenburg and the staff failed in messaging. - that is, if they actually saw any potential in him.

There was no 247 back then, so what you're referencing is backfilled data by 247. At the time, Munson was 3* Rivals Top150 player. He was in the top 80 when he committed, but had slid down to 109 when he signed.

For the record, I'm not disparaging Nigel Munson at all. He was well worthy of the scholarship...no one could have foreseen that he would only stick around one year. All I was saying was that there the comparison of 5* to 2* that was made above was a bit of an exaggeration.

It wasn't even a Munson or Curry decision for Seth. If anything, Seth should have been taken to task about wasting a scholarship spot on the guy who didn't qualify, Tyrone Appleton. That's who got Steph's spot. By the time it was official that he couldn't get his scores up enough to enroll, Curry had already signed with Davidson and we only brought in two players instead of three.

People beat Seth Greenburg up over his recruitment and rightfully so, but what about Dell Curry dissing his alma mater? He was a multimillionaire who could sneeze and pay tuition anywhere with the money that fell out of his pocket. A scholarship shouldn't have been any kind of issue for Curry. PWO = we want you here but we don't have a scholarship available.

So that's not a fair statement to Dell. Per oral histories (and I can link evidence per request), when Steph was making the decision between PWO at VT and scholarship at Davidson, Dell actually wanted Steph to take the PWO. It was actually Steph's mother who convinced Steph to go to Davidson. Her argument was he should go to a school that the coaching staff is willing to bend over backwards for him, not the school that told him "we can give you a walk on spot for now and maybe give you a scholarship next year".

My bad, sorry Dell!

I wouldn't be shocked if Virginia Tech asks Steph Curry to be a commencement speaker when he retires. Obviously he couldn't do it now as graduation falls smack in the middle of the NBA playoffs.

But Tyrod had a better college career than Russell....Steph had a better college and pro career than Munson....

I don't blame Seth for Steph. how many ACC offers did he have?

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It doesn't matter how many offers he had when you are a middle to bottom feeder in the ACC.....which VT was at the time....its much more important to keep the blood line in good graces with the school than to get a slightly better player...because even if Steph didn't become a lottery pick and sure fire HOFr he may have a son that does get the height and shooting ability....so you give the legacy kid the scholly if things are close....its the right way to handle the situation....there really isn't an argument at this stage knowing what we all know now.....VT lost out on 2 Currys that were both better than Munson....Steph and Seth....

The way to rise up the rankings is not to use one of three scholarships on a middling player over a top 100 prospect. You don't have the luxury not take the best option possible. The argument to take a legacy just because they might have a kid that you want in the future is unreasonable.

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He has some family where I grew up in West Virginia. Their just wasn't enough mutual interest there according to them. And this isn't a Stephen Curry situation where immediate family played the same sport at VT.

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McClung isn't Zion, this isn't a situation where you have a generational talent who happens have a game tailored made for YouTube. We're going to be OK without McClung. Look at his advanced statistics (Link Here). It suggests he's an average player and that's before factoring in Georgetown's weak non-conference schedule.

For the sake of comparison, JRob (Link Here), NAW (Link Here), Hill (Link Here), Outlaw (Link Here) and Bebe (Link Here) are quantitatively better than McClung. If he played for us this year, it's unclear if he's good enough to be in our rotation. We would have to hope and pray he develops into more than an athlete. He's basically a worse version of Deron Washington.

The only reason he's in this situation: 1) He's playing on a mediocre Georgetown team so lower barrier of entry for starting time 2) Georgetown's weak non-conference schedule 3) Dunks translate well on YouTube 4) It's novel for a white guard to have his level of athleticism

Man give McClung a break. No one is Zion, whats the point. He is far from an average player. Also you are not comparing apples to apples, oranges to oranges. What were the VT player's numbers for the first 13 games of their freshman years. VT does have better players and more depth which makes it easier to have better numbers. McClung is being put in a spot where he has to try to win games as a freshmen, his numbers will improve. VT non-conference schedule was just as weak. In my opinion he is definitely good enough to be in VTs rotation. Did you see the Penn State game and the Georgia Tech game, but I do not think he would be getting as many minutes as he is getting at G'Town. Deron Washington was a 6'8" forward, a great player for VT, and was drafted in the second round??? Why do we have to bring up his color? He is a Virginia kid and from the Southwest part of Virginia, and I root for kids from Virginia. In closing he is a very good college basketball player, much better than you and I, and everyone knows his name.

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I think he's just saying that he's not a generational talent so it's not like Buzz screwed up by not recruiting him. He's just not a great fit for us. Keep in mind that we were supposed to have Clarke and Nolley too. If we had them, Mcclung wouldn't get any meaningful game time for us. On the other hand, he gets to start for Georgetown. He's a talented player, but Buzz wants his guys. I mean has Buzz ever had a high volume shooting, highlight reel guy?

He is far from an average player.

Math would disagree with you.

What were the VT player's numbers for the first 13 games of their freshman years.

They were better.

In my opinion he is definitely good enough to be in VTs rotation.

I disagree. Because, math.

Deron Washington was a 6'8" forward, a great player for VT, and was drafted in the second round???

That is correct.

Why do we have to bring up his color?

Because it's important when discussing his national cultural impact...and his nickname is literally "White Mac".

In closing he is a very good college basketball player, much better than you and I, and everyone knows his name.

There's a difference between being a great dunker and a great basketball player. You are correct, he's a better basketball player than me. Everyone knows his name because of YouTube and Instagram. They will forget about him just as quickly if all he can do is dunk.

I'm not trying to give this kid shit because of course it would be great if a kid from the NRV went to Virginia Tech and became a quasi-cultural phenomenon. But the point I'm making is that the rest of his game isn't developed enough to be a rotation player for a top-10 team. You would be hard-pressed to find an unbiased basketball analyst to make a counterclaim.

As crazy as it seems, Virginia Tech is a better basketball program than Georgetown. Buzz Williams is a better coach than Patrick Ewing. McClung, at this time, isn't good enough to be a Hokie. Maybe that changes with time, but I'd rather have guards we have on our roster now. You can disagree with me but it sounds like you just want the NRV kid to stay in the NRV instead of guys who give us a better chance to win.

Let's pick one bottom-line advanced stat, BPM (Box Plus-Minus), an estimate of the score contribution per 100 possessions above an average player adjusted to an average team.

McClung: -2.3
Robinson (FR): +2.2
NAW (FR): +5.3
Hill (FR): -0.1
Outlaw (FR, UNCG): -1.5
Bede (FR): +3.6

current season:
Robinson (SR): +8.4
NAW (SO): +12.3
Hill (SR): +5.3
Outlaw (SR): +8.3
Bede (SO): +6.3

The reason we deserve so much criticism for Curry is because his dad was the greatest player in our program's history and when he was being recruited we were not good enough to be overly picky with who we were bringing in.

This Mclung thing is basically the exact opposite on both of those counts.

Correct. Really not in the same ballpark.

He wouldn't even be playing on this Hokies team. He isn't good enough defensively to stop the ball at the point and prevent passes into the post. Jeez folks- Buzz's kids are 14-1 and in the top 10. If you want to talk about missing a stretch 4 who can guard the pain and rebound, that is fair. But missing out on a catch and shoot guard? VT has that in abundance.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

French this is the best analysis of why he wouldn't play for VT. He doesn't play well defensively at this stage. For 3yrs he was required to carry his team on offense so he developed bad habits on the defensive end. But don't get it twisted, Tech has 2 guards that are more talented than McClung...Robinson(sr) and NAW(4*). Mac would be a 4* if he played in NOVA or HR....I watch a lot of ACC basketball and BE basketball....IMO

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No. I'm more worried about going 1-0 tomorrow. Also worried about Qudus Wahab's commitment later this month. And about why The Fifth Fuller didn't follow up on his AMA. Honestly I'm not worried about McClung at all and I'm not sure why I should ever be.

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