March 2019 - Recruiting Thread Part One

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Ah good, another new off-topic thread.

#thingsiblamethemvsfor

your fault

/sssselffulfillingprophecy

You're the only ones that I can talk to about this, you guys.

[4] Don't take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive.

Not with that attitude

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

J'wan Evans (East Rockingham, Va) running back (2019) has committed to the good guys. A walk-on I assume, he is good.

Very Solid player, kind of a big deal to be a walk-on. I think he had an offer to ODU

Wagon's full and Momma I'm coming home.

Yeah, I saw the kid play a few times. Solid player, but I don't think he was the best player in the area. Will be interesting to see how/if he fits in anywhere on offense.

Is it basketball season yet?

This is off topic but is anyone else having issues with 247 on Chrome with an iPhone? I've been getting an error for the entire site for the last several weeks.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

Posing with Texas NC trophy, that's rich.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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If it works it works

Yep. Smart move by Mack. Use what you can

I didn't know the coach got to keep the trophy not the school.

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Probably a replica like the common wealth cup that uva has

Danny is always open
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That fake Cup got me blocked by LOLUVA football account.

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I got blocked by the LOLUVA account as well. All I did was laugh when they posted a "big win" over William & Mary. Thin skinned wimps.

Tyrod did it Mikey, Tyrod did it!!

They can block all they want. We get the blocks that matter.

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UVA twitter blocks better than their football team

They could also use a better handle

Insert UVA fumbling GIF

Composite 3* CB from 757

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

It's not that he's a highly touted recruit, it's that we allegedly wanted him and we don't have very many other recruits lined up that really bothers me

Recruit Prosim

If we land Coit he will fill that slot need we were looking at LJ for, despite being listed as a CB by some.

Well, maybe #rudeboyz is more appealing than #loyalty. I'm not worried about it. If UNC with a 67-year-old head coach and the hashtag rudeboyz is what appeals to this young man he may not fit into the culture VT is trying to build.

There have been enough requests for a lil more context in the crootin threads that I figured I'd add the link to his profile is all

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I'm not sure that Coit isn't higher on the board right now but we would have definitely accepted his commitment. More of a perception loss than talent loss IMO. James is very well respected in the 757 and is a very popular kid. He, Powell, and Lambert are all very close. Not to mention the fact the we were again considered the pretty heavy favorite.

I do still think Coit is a much more talented player though.

Am I the only one who thinks Mack looks creepy snuggled up next to him with his hand on the kid's arm?

Am I the only one who thinks Mack looks creepy snuggled up next to him with his hand on the kid's arm?

No.

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

Hey kids, gather round. Let's hold this replica trophy I won when you were 3 years old, and at a different school. It was dope #rudeboyz

Alex Hornibrook (Wisconsin) to transfer to FSU.

Edit: eligible to play immediately, grad transfer.

Amateur superstar and idiot extraordinaire.

Have fun fsu

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

Take what you can get, I guess?

Amateur superstar and idiot extraordinaire.

He is going to miss that Wisconsin Oline.

He melts down under pressure and struggles to consistently make reads. Hes also a southpaw which takes some adjusting to. Hes also one of the furthest things from a read option qb I've ever seen which is what willy taggart wants to run. It just doesnt make sense and doesnt fit

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

Hes also one of the furthest things from a read option qb I've ever seen

So what you're saying is, he has Grant Noel levels of athleticism.

I found TKP after two rails from TOTS then walking back to my apartment and re-watching the 2012 Sugar Bowl. I woke up the next day with this username.

Sneaky level of athleticism

A Wisconsin alum I know laughed at this and basically had the same sentiment. He thinks poorly of hornibrook...actually was excited when the freshman started in his place last year. Wonder how he will handle that savage simplicity of willie taggart...

I thought he was gonna be legit. He looked fantastic in the spring game and had one of the prettiest deep balls I'd ever seen but my god... it never came out again after that

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

I mentioned to my friend that hornibrook has Alex van pelt syndrome and he agreed it was appropriate. Alex van pelt was a QB for Pitt in the 90s that was all-world as a freshman and got steadily worse as he got older. For those that don't know...

I see your AVP, and raise you a Reggie Ball.

TKPhi Damn Proud
BSME 2009

AVP actually played in the NFL...as a QB...but yeah, same idea

Didn't Nathan Peterman go to Pitt too?

J. Crew...

I've tried to look at this move 100 different ways. The only reason it makes any sense is that Hornibrook is interested in coaching and wants to learn another offensive scheme (and is willing to die for the experience). FSU gets a warm body to get absolutely torched behind an awful o line. Hornibrook gets experience in Tagart's lethally simple spread veer offense....as a Pro style QB.

Maybe Taggart is bringing Hornibrook in because Taggart needs help with coaching the offense?

Take the shortest route to the ball and arrive in bad humor.

Desperation on both sides, that's how you have to look at it.

Sooooo FSU still doesn't have a QB...

Bleeding burnt orange and chicago maroon

That bwah has a noodle for an arm.

Vroom Vroom

Not Hokie related but Alex Hornibrook, QB for Wisconsin, has transferred to FSU.

Look up.

Its shot glasses!

Danny is always open
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A lot of 2020 North Carolina guys trending towards UNC right now. I would expect them to clean up in State in 2020. VT would be very wise to focus on select guys in NC for 2020 and start working on 2021 in North Carolina, that's going to be an above average year and a great shot at getting talent to cross the state line.

Word is they are close to landing 2021 5* DT Payton Page as well.

Everyone who is underestimating what Mac can do at UNC is going to be severely disappointed. We are going to feel this.

Is it basketball season yet?

Just like Fuente and Frank felt all those better ranked classes UNC brought in a lot of years compared to Hokies. This is pretty par for the course of UNC and isn't a great shift in their recruiting.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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Haha just couldn't help yourself. Let's not do this to another thread again please.

Yes I should just let the sky is falling crowd go unchallenged.

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"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I was agreeing. I should stop challenging the misguided believe that Mac is going to change UNC from its historical recruiting, which on average has been better than Tech's already.

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awesome great thanks we'll hold you to that

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Damn this post has gone up and down with legs.

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Who said the sky was falling?

Is it basketball season yet?

Had to leg you. He didn't say the sky was falling. Still trying to figure out what the skyn is, but since I don't know, maybe that's what's falling and we're all just unaware?

Reel men fish on Wednesdays

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Clockwork.

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I think what people need to understand about 2020 is a couple of things:

1. UNC is going to get the new coach bump, regardless of who it is.

2. This is especially true because UNC specifically hired Mac to win NC recruiting over NC State

3. NC State did really well in-state recruiting last year in positions of strength in the 2020 NC recruiting class.

4. Which means that UNC can sell early playing time and NC State and VT cannot sell as well, which gets UNC an easier path to landing recruits.

So, One year is not a trend. It's all going to come down to what UNC does on the field this year. If they start 0-3 or 0-4, will they hold on to early commits? Who knows. So, while I won't underestimate Mac, I don't see 2020 as the start of an upward trend. Now, if they kill it in 2021, then I'd be worried.

I'm still waiting for the newish coach bump in recruiting.....hell, I thought we could have something close to what UVA had those couple of years when London got numerous high 4* and a few 5 *.

Pour some Beer on it

DING DING DING

It always bothered me that Iowa State and UMD could manage a new coach recruiting bump, but we couldn't.

Yea because they weren't replacing a legendary HOF coach that had literally built the programs national perception and had been the face of it for almost 30 years. It's a completely different situation. When you replace a guy that is worshipped at a school there is more of a "Don't F this up" feeling than a "Hell ya, something new" feeling that would create excitement and recruiting buzz.

15 Straight

I'm gonna just leave recruiting team rankings from 2014-2019 below

UMD: 41, 47, 41, 18, 28, 46
ISU: 59, 64, 55, 52, 55, 48
VT: 28, 29, 42, 26, 24, 26

1. What ISU recruiting bump???
2. UMD has the most noticable bump but we'll see with Locksley if Durkin was a flash in the pan or not
3. Note the drop off of Locksley's transition class vs. Fuente's transition class. Very similar drop off in very different situations, but one is considered an ACE recruiter while many of us have convinced ourselves the other can't recruit....
4. Fuente has at best given us a slight bump from the latter Beamer years but overall is right on or right above our historical average.

The sky is not falling, but Fuente is hitting about the same level of recruiting with pretty similar recruiting infrastructure to Beamer. Recruiting support staff is where we need to improve to take the next step.

UMD has historically recruited in the 20-30 range so their rankings in the 40s are more of a product of Edsall's tenure being a dumpster fire. I fully expect Locksley to get them in the 15-25 range; however, I would be shocked if they somehow broke the top 10.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

Good thing we know when kids these days are 800% committed they mean it, right? Keep recruiting these kids hard. If anyone should understand how quickly a kid can change their mind, it should be a tech fan.

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2020 is going to be VERY bad for Tech recruiting wise. We absolutely need a good season on the field to carry us through and hopefully start an upswing in 2021. This seasons frail schedule is actually the biggest blessing in disguise I think I've ever seen.

Recruit Prosim

It is certainly not off to a great start when compared to previous classes. The level of commitments might be around the same, but the recruits that we are receiving interest from and getting on campus is way lower than it was in 2019 and 2018. Not all is lost, but we certainly have a ways to go to match the results of recent years.

You hearing any good news about Coit?

Recruit Prosim

Personally haven't heard anything but I know the 247 guys are confident. Visiting soon.

Meanwhile, while you guys worry about UNC, NC State is up in Woodbridge stealing RJ Adams

I feel obligated to post this when I see the debate about whether UNC recruiting success really matters:

elite players have realized that grouping has real benefits. You see it at every level of sports now, all the way down to scholastic sports and youth all-star travel teams. You're going to get better in practices, not games, and when the guy across from you is NFL bound, you're getting better. When you're surrounded by elite play makers, it's that much harder for opponents to double you or scheme away from you. And depth at position groups means you're insulated from being pushed back on the field before you're really ready or being asked to do things before you're really prepared. Sure, it's more of a challenge, but that's kind of the point. There is no path of least resistance to the NFL unless you're a 1 in a million freak like Ed Oliver who came out of high school pretty much ready for the NFL. His two college career highlights were terrorizing Baker Mayfield in his first game and then getting into a Starter Jacket argument with Applewhite late last fall. He will be a first round pick, but he's not going to be the #1 pick, which I think he could have been. That looks like Bosa, fellow 5 star, Ohio State. He could end up behind Quinnen Williams (borderline 4 star, Alabama), Rashan Gary (5-star, Michigan), Clelin Ferrell (borderine 4, Clemson), or Christian Wilkins (mid-4, Clemson). If so, he may have lost multiple millions by choosing Houston over a blue blood program.

Recruiting unfortunately is a zero sum game and you can't really compare recruiting and success in the modern game to recruiting and success back in the 90s or aughts - not in any straight forward way - using player ratings or class rankings. Too many things have changed.

get out of here with your LOGIC and REASON

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Sees 55 new posts and gets hope up for crootin news only to find more debacle on UNC

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Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

RIP Severus Gruber

(TKP publishes some great recruiting articles and interviews.)

Since 2004 we're 12-3 vs. UNC. Win games....get recruits. No use crying over what you might think will be a Mac Attack.

JP

Beating UNC on the field and in recruiting >> Beating UNC on the field but not recruiting > Beating UNC in recruiting but not on the field >> Not beating UNC in either

I'd rather not lose recruits we want to sign to an in-division rival, regardless of our historic record against them.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

It's hard to beat them in recruiting when the recruits know that with VT they'll have to attend an actual class or two.

Has a Tilted Kilt opened in Blacksburg yet?

TKPhi Damn Proud
BSME 2009

This guy asking the real recruiting questions

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

Years ago, some alumni were trying to open a Hooters in Blacksburg and were not successful due to the city wanting local small businesses. Just think how much money could have been made for both wait staff and city taxes. The buffalo Wild wings location in the burg was alwasy trash, terrible service.

Pour some Beer on it

One summer we went to BW3 when it was absolutely vacant, I think even summer classes weren't in session. The three of us were the only ones there. One of the waitresses was determined to make it a breastraunt. Her skirt was so short that every time she bent over her ass popped out (was wearing a thong). She kept cleaning the tables around us so she kept bending over with he butt in our direction. One of my friends who was going crazy over her ass left a huge tip ( cash).

I guess the moral of this story is breastraunt will find a way.

Ew.

Virginia Tech will have some of its more important targets on campus at the end of the month. Jalen Coit, Quentin Williams, Kobe Baynes, Kaelon Black, and Kyjuan Herndon all informed TKP of a spring Virginia Tech visit.

I haven't done a ton of research on these guys yet, but for the "more important targets" there really aren't any highly rated guys on that list.

It will be interesting to see how they evolve/grow during their senior seasons.

Is it basketball season yet?

Some or most of those guys are probably in for some decent sized bumps, not necessarily to 4*'s but definitely possible for a few of them. We aren't in hot on a lot of blue chippers right now, hopefully that changes by ESD.

Big Coit fan. I like Williams and Baynes. Could leave the other two.

Right now, Virginia Tech doesn't stand well with many highly rated guys (per the 247Sports Composite).

Add Antwaun Powell.

He is super high priority