Buzzketball Central: #16 Virginia Tech Hokies (24-7, 12-6) at #12 Florida State Seminoles (25-6, 13-5) 230PM ESPN

GAME INFORMATION
Date/Time: Mar. 14, 2019 / 230PM
Opponent: Florida State University
Site: Spectrum Center, Charlotte, NC
Radio: Virginia Tech IMG Sports Network
Talent: Jon Laaser and Mike Burnop
TV: ESPN
Talent:
Live Stats: HokieSports.com
Game Notes: Virginia Tech
Sirius: 81 XM: 81 Internet: 81

Rested Timber waiting to be cut down

Buzzketball's will need to cut through the forest to advance to the ACC Semifinals. Win and you're in. That's going to be a TALL task with the Seminoles well rested ahead of todays game. The Hokies have the ability to build a huge lead, as seen the last time they met, when they took a 33-19 lead into halftime. Now they have to prove they can build on that effort rather than let Florida State use its athleticism and size to muscle their way into the next round of the tournament. The Hokies must limit mistakes and force the Seminoles into costly errors of their own, especially a high number of fouls in the paint.

Florida State comes riding high, having moved up to 12th in the latest polls. This will be the fifty seventh meeting between the Hokies and Seminoles. Florida State leads the all-time series 34-22, starting all the way back in 1968. The Hokies last victory against the Seminoles came in 2016 at home.

The Seminoles are coached by Leonard Hamilton, who has coached FSU since 2002, and before that coached Miami starting in 1990. Hamilton has almost three decades of coaching against the Hokies in all their different forms over the years. Hamilton has enjoyed what many would consider a quiet run of success at Florida State considering the other ACC opponents. He has led FSU to 20 or more wins in eleven of seventeen seasons, including a conference tournament championship in 2012. He has taken the Seminoles to the NCAA tournament six times and the NIT seven times. His Achilles heel has usually been to end up on the backside of the middle of the ACC, finishing .500 or less in nine of fifteen seasons.

Defensively, the Seminoles employ a high pressure man to man defense primarily that varies in its starting point throughout the game. Using their speed and crisp passing allowed the Hokies to dominate Florida State early in the man to man, forcing them to revert to a zone defense to try to slow the Hokies attack. One thing Hamilton and his staff do better than most is assigning defensive matchups. You may see some unusual pairings but they aim to best utilize their players strengths on the defensive end to cause the most problems for their opponents. Some assignments might be based on strengths to turn the ball over, others might be based on ability to rebound effectively and once in a while they even identify the best chance to score in transition with matchups.

Offensively, Florida State has historically run a motion offense that relied heavily on its bigs to score or distribute but with his current personnel, Hamilton has had to change to a more motion based system that relies on his perimeter players to score for the Seminoles. Guards represent five of the top seven scorers for the Seminoles. Regardless of the change, it appears to be working, with the Seminoles off to their third best start ever under Hamilton.

Seminoles Backcourt

Terrance Mann, (#14), 6'7, 215 Lbs Senior Guard is averaging 11.5 PPG, 6.3 RPG, and 2.4 APG. Mann essentially has taken over the Seminoles leading man role, giving Hamilton a long arm defender with a big enough body to keep shooters off balanced but also able to crash in to provide weak side help. He is hitting 53% inside and has greatly improved from outside at 46% compared to 30% last season. He only attempts 2 three pointers per contest on average though. He also hits 78% of his free throws.

Trent Forrest, (#3), 6'4, 210 Lbs, Junior is scoring 9.1 PPG, 4.7 RPG, 3.8 APG and 2 SPG. He shoots 48% inside and 15% outside. He also hits 77% of his free throws.

MJ Walker, (#23), 6'5, 213 Lbs Sophomore Guard who initially was thought to be a one and done, is scoring 8 PPG, 2 RPG, and 1.7 APG this season. He has struggled to find his shot though, hitting 36% inside but 34% from outside. He attempts almost 4 threes per game. He also hits 77% of his free throws.

David Nichols, (#11), 6'1, 185 Lbs a graduate transfer from Albany, is scoring 6.6 PPG, 1.4 RPG, 1.7 APG, and 1.4 SPG. He manages 45% inside and 34% outside on 3 attempts per game. His free throws are going in at a 69% clip.

PJ Savoy, (#5), 6'4, 210 Lbs Senior Guard is scoring 6.4 PPG, 1.5 RPG, 0.7 APG, and 1.4 SPG. He manages 59% inside and 31% outside on almost 5 attempts per game. His free throws are going in at a 81% clip.

Seminoles Frontcourt

Sophomore Mfiondu Kabengele (#25), 6'10, 250 lbs is leading the team in scoring at 13.2 PPG, 5.5 RPG, and 1.3 BPG. He is shooting 54% inside, 40% outside and 77% from the line. His numbers are becoming very Blackshearish. This will probably be the biggest matchup to watch in this game.

Christ Koumadje (#21) 7'4, 268 Lbs Senior Center is also providing 6.9 PPG, 5.7 RPG and 1.6 BPG. He shoots 62% inside, does not take outside shots and hits only 57% of his free throws.

Phil Cofer, (#0), 6'8, 205 Lbs Senior Forward was granted an additional year of eligibility due to injuries earlier in his career. He is averaging 7 PPG, 3.6 RPG, and 1 APG. He is scoring 40% inside and 35% from outside so the Hokies need to realize he will step outside to shoot. He attempts almost 4 outside shots per contest. He hits 63% of his free throws.

What to expect from Florida State?

The Seminoles biggest area of success came in the paint after Kerry Blackshear got into foul trouble. The mismatch of Outlaw being forced to guard a center threw off the entire defensive rotation of the Hokies, creating many clean looks at the basket for Florida State. Blackshear is again the key in this game and can ill afford to be forced to the bench for three quarters of the second half.

Leonard Hamilton will also fully take advantage of his deep bench, likely going 10 deep in this game to wear the Hokies out since they played yesterday with a much shorter bench. It may not be a huge advantage but in games decided by 5 or fewer points it only takes one or two extra openings to help a team win.

The Seminoles will work the ball inside out to get perimeter shots and good looks while creating transition basket opportunities. This is a long fast twitch opponent. Cofer and Kabengele will be the biggest tandem to watch out for in this contest. Koumadje slows the post transition down somewhat but makes up with it by deterring or adjusting opponents shots up and down the lane on defense.

The biggest change has been their steady play on defense this season. That has probably been the most crucial change in the Seminoles and why they are where they are so far. This team averages 4.1 blocks per game so the Hokies have to find ways to avoid having their shot swatted while still scoring inside.

The biggest way to counteract this is turning Florida State over. The Seminoles average 14 turnovers per game, most of that with the starters, so if the Hokies can up that total a bit it will take scoring possessions away quickly. That becomes even more important because this is an opponent that just doesn't foul that much which the Hokies have used time and time again this year to distance themselves.

The Hokies

Tech needs to be ready to keep a high paced offensive tempo in the half court if they want to win this matchup. They have to be able to get a high number of transition baskets or open looks by taking advantage of their speed and ability to move the basketball crisply and cleanly around the perimeter.

Tech will have a tough time winning the lane, so it has to be able to hit its jumpers, especially critical is hitting its perimeter shots. Tech likely needs to shoot better than 45% from outside to be a factor in this game.

The one area that could drastically change this game would be to limit the points off turnovers and also limit the bench scoring. The Hokies allowed Florida State in the last game to get 21 points off turnovers and their bench outscored the Hokies 37-2

Tech has to still make an attempt at getting to the basket with Blackshear, NAW and Hill. If they forego working the ball inside than the Seminoles will be able to ignore the inside and focus solely on the perimeter. The Hokies dearly need clean looks today to stay in this game.

Last and probably most critical, the Hokies must avoid foul trouble. They can ill afford to have starters in foul trouble since the bench is short and doesn't provide much experience. They make up for it in energy

In Closing

Ideally the Hokies would just keep running but I think with how well Florida State uses their bench and how limited Tech's bench is, it will require them to strategically slow the game defensively and then be able to ramp up the speed on offense.

The Hokies have to find open looks and they have to be able to hit those shots. Defensively they have to be able to limit the number of attempts Florida State gets either by forcing turnovers or bad shots. Do these things and it's like the first half of last game, don't and its much more the second half.

I expect to see Buzz stretch the floor, especially on defense. Buzz will likely have to use some full court pressure in this game as well as some zone defense to counter the Seminoles offense. Force them to eat up a third of the shot clock before they cross the midline.

73-64 the other way this time. Hokies win by keeping Blackshear on the floor, Hill or Outlaw having a big game outside, and NAW doing the quiet work he just continues to do. Wilkins will be right smack in the middle of several exciting plays that could impact the final result.

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Comments

ESPN currently lists the game for a 3pm tip

fine

LETS GO

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

HOKIES!!!!

/s

Why can't they accurately space these games out? I feel like every year a schedule is made, but then every game after the 1st game of the day tips off 30-45 minutes after it's supposed to.

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Current Roanoke-Hokie
Go Hokies!

Yeah, they know that each game is going to be ~2 hours and then a 30 minute warm up period follows before the next game. I don't know why you don't just include that in the game times. If I am not mistaking the NCAA tournament does do that though.

Looks like we're gonna be stuck with Dan Dakich on color commentary again... maybe it's just me, but Sean McDonough is having a hard time disguising his annoyance with the guy and sounds like he's barely tolerating him.

So Sean's just like the rest of us.

I'm not one that hates on the analysts and I think generally the public gives them more shit than is warranted, but Dan Dakich deserves every ounce of hate that goes his way. He is easily the worst, most arrogant tool bag of an analyst in sports (yes, in all of sports, not just basketball or ESPN). Not only does he have that unearned smugness dripping off him, but most of the time his talking points are flat out wrong. Thank god for Raycom (a rare phrase to be uttered for sure) so I could watch their feed instead.

Interesting nugget from McDonough at the end of the UVA-NC St game...

Joe Lunardi has FSU as the overall #16 and VT as the #17 teams in the tournament right now. So with a win, there's a chance that that committee could flip us and potentially put us on the 4 line. That could be huge.

So, are we gonna be able to handle BOTH the Semenholes & the Officiating this time??

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Lets hope we get the other side of the bias and the ACC wants to see UVA/VT in the Semis

Well ESPN is biased. We're a 65% favorite to win right now.

Hopefully different refs than we had down in Tallahassee

Remember when we thought this was a big deal? Yeah, simpler times man.

One of the rare, few highlights during an otherwise craptacular season.

Waho's suck
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This will be the fifty seventh meeting between the Hokies and Seminoles. Florida State leads the all-time series 34-22, starting all the way back in 1968. The Hokies last victory against the Seminoles came in 2016 at home.

This (IMOP) is embarrassing for a hoops program like ours.

Waho's suck
Uva swallows

What's embarrassing about it? We've been one of the worst Power 5 basketball programs over that stretch, and FSU usually has a roster loaded with NBA talent.

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

We've been one of the worst Power 5 basketball programs over that stretch

I can kind of give you that one, but the stretch needs to be specified.

FSU always has a roster loaded with NBA talent.

Now that one I can't give you.

Waho's suck
Uva swallows

the stretch needs to be specified

Okay, let's revisit your original comment:

starting all the way back in 1968

Total FSU players to play in the NBA: 34 (Including two guys who currently average 10 ppg)
Total VT players to play in the NBA: 13 (Only current player is DFS who only played at VT for one season)

They aren't as loaded with talent as the blue bloods (Like half of current NBA players came from a blue blood or from overseas), but they've put way more players in the NBA than the average Power 5 team.

Sauces:
https://basketball.realgm.com/ncaa/conferences/The-Summit-League/32/Flor...
https://basketball.realgm.com/ncaa/conferences/Atlantic-10-Conference/10...

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

Ok. Well I have to believe there were/are patches through that stretch where we were as good/better than them. Also, I'd have to believe that after that during most of the 21st century, we've been as good/better than them with Greenberg & Buzz (at least we should've been).

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Uva swallows

Do you just say whatever you want to be true instead of actually googling the facts?

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

Do you feel bothered/offended/triggered by my original comment?

Waho's suck
Uva swallows

Are you going to contribute anything meaningful to this conversation?

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

Look I can acknowledge facts. I can even acknowledge that facts (& some people) don't care about my feelings. But those facts aren't gonna change how I feel about the series (& believe me, I'm not the only person that feels this way about it). As far as "contributing anything meaningful", this is TKP (in case you forgot). Folks share their feelings about a whole bunch of shit on here, whether they line up with facts, or not.
So you disagree with how I feel & my opinion on the series. Ok. That's cool. Great. Have a wonderful evening and weekend.

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Uva swallows

A lot of talk about FSU in this pregame..

Blackshear already with a foul.. Come on.

What a shocker! Knew it was coming.

Waho's suck
Uva swallows

very stupid foul

74-54

Walker is very handsy on defense.

Apparently Dan Dakish thinks every team is a fun team to play on.

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cant know down a shot... uh oh...

74-54

Awful start offensively. No rhythm at all to our gameplan & a lot of rushed shots so far. Yikes.

Wow have things changed over the past month. Early on in this game and I'm wishing Bede had the ball in his hands more. Never thought I'd be saying that so soon but his drives have looked purposeful and NAW seems sloppy early on

Here lies It's a Stroman Jersey I Swear, surpassed in life by no one because he intercepted it.

Just thinking the same thing. NAW is pressing and trying to do too much.

Louisville and FSU... Buzz Williams Kryptonite

Is it basketball season yet?

welp... we look like ass so far

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

Well here we go

I feed off of nightmares

This was not an ideal start

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

Wonder if the A&M "buzz" has affected the team.

I'm going to guess the 2nd game in as many days with a bench rotation of about -2 guys is playing more of a role than any rumors

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

Can't tune in. What's happening.

Well this game got out of hand quickly. About to get run out of the fucking gym. What the hell is NAW doing on offense?

Don't worry we are just going to do the opposite of last time we played. Our second half comeback will be solid.

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

Hack Blackshear driving to the basket. Play on.
Shove Hill to the floor. Play on. Familiar.

Do we have the same ref's from last time we played FSU? It sounds like it.

😧

I feed off of nightmares

What the hell are we listening to right now? They've got a freaking sob story going on about FSU. Fuck them

Our 3 point shooting is way off.

Is it basketball season yet?

Our 3 point shooting everything is way off.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

They are letting FSU get away with murder, and our guys are scared to drive the ball because of it.

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

Can't tell if it's recency bias but they have been very aggressive a la forearm shivers and definitely being handsy...getting reallll frustrated

NAW is a turnover machine right now.

Is it basketball season yet?

As much as I dislike Dakich, he has a point about attacked the basket to open up the 3 pointers. We just need the officials to not swallow the whistle...

"It's a miracle in Blacksburg, TYROD DID IT MIKEY, TYROD DID IT!"

Also completely unrelated to game play, but I don't like these black uniforms, they look like track jerseys and also don't look like something VT should wear.

"It's a miracle in Blacksburg, TYROD DID IT MIKEY, TYROD DID IT!"

Wow.

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Uva swallows

0-7 from 3.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Excluding the single drive to the basket, great defense the past few minutes. Just need to knock down our shots.

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

Hell of an effort over the past few minutes by the guys. We're playing fantastic defense & letting that lead into our offense. Love it. Fantastic fight to slowly come back so far, hopefully our 3's start falling soon.

They will.

Yep, with our game style, being 0-78 from 3, and only down 5? We're doing okay, just need to get the shots to drop.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

I'm going on record right now: When it's all said and done, Isaiah Wilkins will play in the NBA.

Good things happen when he's in the game. He will be a big time starter next season.

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

Man, that's bold.

If he does, it'll be because he's maxed out his physical gifts, a la Draymond Green. But he's a smart player, has a great engine and he makes things happen when he's on the court.

That Wilkins stutter was dope

Why do none of the networks realize we don't want your fancy-cam or artistic angle or whatever during live gameplay.... ever.

I made the same comment yesterday. Just because you put a camera in that location doesn't mean you have to use it during live action. TV production people just want to justify the expense so you get stuck with this crap.

Such a smart play there by Wilkins after missing the corner 3. Drives & waits for contact

It does help we've gotten the last six foul calls but clawed our way back. Wilkins is amazing for being barely 18

Here lies It's a Stroman Jersey I Swear, surpassed in life by no one because he intercepted it.

To be fair he's almost 18 and a half.

Still have not hit a 3 point shot.

Is it basketball season yet?

annnd 0-10

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

We'll make them all in the second half because these things always even out. Right? Someone please reassure me...

VT BSEE '98, VT MSME '01

Put a three in the damn hoop

I feed off of nightmares

Blackshear is really forcing things right now.

Also can't stand Mj Walker

I feed off of nightmares

To be 0-9 from 3 and only down 5 is not bad. We just need to get hot.

"It's a miracle in Blacksburg, TYROD DID IT MIKEY, TYROD DID IT!"

What is with us and playing these guys? They are getting good looks from the 3 point line, if those can start dropping we will beat this team

It's the same thing with Louisville. Those two teams just haunt us every season.

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

0-10. Good lord. Every single look has been there, we just can't get it to fall.

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

Just try to bank those threes in, can't hurt to try a new strategy

Shooting performance is tough to watch so far.. We're playing good D but also lucky they're missing some shots as well or this could be ugly. Really need our 3's to start falling...

I'm not worried... but after this game we need to tie our 3 point shot around our wrist so we stop forgetting to bring it out of the locker room.

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Go Hokies!

Seems like we can't hit the three with tired legs tonight. Guess we need to keep trying. If we had taken the ball to the hoop those 10 times we would have to leave right now.

"The Cup is going nowhere MIkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Feed BLACKSHEAR!

"The Cup is going nowhere MIkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

to be 0-10 or 11 on three's and be tied is something else. Just need the lid to come off the hoop

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.


Yes this!

Get well!

Lee Suggs!!

Quick ass whistle on that held ball

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

One of the quickest I've seen in all my years of watching basketball actually.

This is an ugly ass game... and we're hanging in there. Poised for a second half run

VB born, class of '14

LET'S GO NAW

Finally they call that bump. NAW gets hammered every time

That wasn't a jump ball, and they missed the blatant over the back on the next play.

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

Agreed on the over the back. What are these refs doing?
Feels one second they're letting them scrap, then the next call is ticky tack

Terrible jump ball call, that was a blatant push, technically there is no "over the back" foul, if you just reach over someone its fine but he gave him a check to the back

VT '17

Yeah the refs don't officially call it "over the back," but every other person on earth does.

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

It just gets frustrating because people get mad and call for "over the back" when a guy jumps over a player and doesn't touch him, one of my pet peeves

VT '17

Yeah, I definitely agree with you on that. It's just difficult to grab a board over another very tall athlete with a high vertical without some sort of contact.

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

Wow these refs just cucked us that last minute. Gave them like 4 extra possessions where there should've been fouls/over the backs on FSU

What a terrible final possession. A microcosm of the entire first half.

Is it basketball season yet?

2 point deficit after the way the game started?

I'll take it

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

What the hell kind of possession was that to end the half

The final possession was rough, I have no idea what the goal was. Regardless, going 0-10 and being down by 2 isn't too bad.

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

The final possession was rough, I have no idea what the goal was. Regardless, going 0-10 0-11 and being down by 10 isn't too bad.

I can't watch but my ESPN app is saying we are down by 2. WHo is right?

Down by two

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

The final possession was rough, I have no idea what the goal was. Regardless, going 0-10 11 and not being down by 10 isn't too bad.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

JR5 slapping his hand definitely needs to be in the Giftory.

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

2nd half adjustments

1. Let the higher ups know about Hamsterdam
2. Get Bunny bounced down so he doesn't get a Major's pension
3. Screw up his cushy consulting job at John's Hopkins.

You can't make this shit up.... Day 2

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

So if you told me that we would get big time out rebounded, assists, and be 0-11 in 3 pointers but only be down 2 at half...

Let's Go Hokies in the Second Half!

Down two at half while going 0-11 from three isn't a bad spot to be. Just need some threes in the second half to start falling.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I don't know if it's been said yet, but for going 0-11 from 3 and only being down by 2 at the half, we should be okay....now if we can just get some 3s to fall

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Ballgame. They are getting dominated, it just wasn't showing up on the scoreboard until now

What? It's an 8 point game with tons of time left. We've also been down by more than 8 in this game already...

There's 15 minutes left

I feed off of nightmares

You missed when we were down 17-4, eh?

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

No, we've climbed out from the burning hot garbage. It's an actual game again.

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Uva swallows

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

a nonexistent bench and 2 games in 24 hours is killing us from deep. We just don't have the legs to have any accuracy whatsoever from 3.

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

If they hit a couple more shots this game is over. We can't hit a single shot from outside 10 feet and we look exhausted

Pussy offensive foul

I feed off of nightmares

That was absolutely the correct call. There have been plenty of calls worth complaining about, but that was not one of them.

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

He went straight up he didn't lean into him or anything

I feed off of nightmares

Annnd everyone standing around watching FSU rebound.

Is it basketball season yet?

They have no energy.

holy crap, we scored?

Blackshear is getting hacked inside

Is it basketball season yet?

Ohhhhh Shiiitttttttt

I feed off of nightmares

We hit a fucking 3!!!

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

.....wut

we scored a 3?

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

but then FSU hits back to back 3's...

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

showoffs

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

But they have to make back to back

I feed off of nightmares

7.7% from outside with the Blackshear 3, just unbelievable how ice cold they can manage to go.

Seems like we always have the highest 3 point percentages in games where we don't teally need it

Chick Patty w/ Cheese

and their bench is killing us again. We have been outscored by the bench 19-2 already in this game.

Just can't get over the hump. Any time we have a good play we have 3 bad plays to counter it

This game is still winnable. We just need one player to get hot.

Doesn't matter if it's cake or pie as long as it's chocolate.

Regardless you know things are terrible when you have 32 points in 28 minutes of play

2 point game again

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

FSU is seriously disrupting our ball movement with their length. The only clean passes we can make are around the perimeter (and even some of those have been tough).

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

Garbage officiating there

Pussy ass call there

Every time I see Bede pull up for a 3

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Let's get it going now

I feed off of nightmares

Let's go boys! Getting some life here.

So many 3s

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

Hill getting hot from 3! Let's go boys keep this going

I want Bede to spend the entire off season on his jumper. If he can get confidence in it, he will be a totally different player.

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

NAW with another turnover...

Is it basketball season yet?

No call?

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Bede with an absolutely terrible pass right there

Two really bad turnovers there

I can't believe there was no call on the NAW turnover, then they call that pissy little shit on Blackshear....wait, yes I can cause they've been doing it all day

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

These refs are a fucking joke. Phantom foul call after a no-call on NAW the other end

Not a big Dakich fan, but "That'll make coaches drink" after the NAW turnover was gold.

BALL DON'T LIE.

It knew that was a soft foul call.

Why is Bede on this team?

“Careful Man, There's a Beverage Here”

Shut up.

Cause he is a valuable contributor.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Because he's a good ball handler, very good defender, above average passer, and his shot is beginning to come around.

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

Because he's better than you.

and then a no-call again when Wilkins gets absolutely hacked leading to an open FSU three. Fuck these refs

Wow. We're getting murdered and they're not calling anything.

Make up call from the previous possession.

Using /s is for cowards.

Would prefer the previous possession

FSU's length and athleticism really affecting us. Wilkins is going to be a dude for us but he desperately needs a full summer in the weight room.

This looks just like our last game against FSU. Their game plan is to be as physical as possible because surely they can't call a foul every possession.

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

Oof. I'll take the two points, but these refs have not been very good.

They're missing contact on both ends and both teams have legitimate gripes with the officiating.

Wilkins has got to go up quicker. Spends way too much time gathering.

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

Too much bitchin about the refs on this board Suck it up and support the team to play better.

“Careful Man, There's a Beverage Here”

....says the guy who just asked why Bede is even on the team....

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

It's the postseason now. Time for everyone who didn't watch this team all season to make ridiculous comments.

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

Are you going to contribute anything meaningful to this conversation. Lol 😂 chill, I'm just screwin with ya!

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Uva swallows

Get out of here troll

Med is FIRED UP

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

Has some of the best invisible lat syndrome I've ever seen

Chick Patty w/ Cheese

Let's fucking go boys!

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NAW just can't get the 2nd FT to drop, all game

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He did it the first time he was at the line and I was shocked.

Don't care what happens I love this team.

That wasn't a travel?

No that's only when we do it.

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Hell of a travel there

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I mean that dude literally just took 5 steps how do you not call a travel there..?

HE TOOK 4 STEPS WITHOUT DRIBBLING

Uhh I think you missed a travel there ref

Hill is a beast! Going to miss him.

Letting a scrub back of the bench guy murder us from outside, just a classic in our history. Vassell averages 4.4 points per game. Scored ZERO in eight of their games and sat out of another 6 games completely and yet we have let him hit us up for three huge three pointers

theres your guy again! and now he hits the side of the backboard smdh

#Bapn ain't EZ

Wanna win put boobie in! Let boobie spin coach!

Are we already forgetting the bucket we got from a block that they called a goaltend?

The ACC should be embarrassed about this officiating performance.

but that was a make up call, the no travel is a make-up make-up?

but seriously, this crew should never ref again

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Hot take: I think NAW should stop going 1-2 from the line.

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Virginia Tech fanatic.

FSU shooting almost 40% from outside while we mire away below 20

1st lead of the game, LET's GO!!

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HOKIES!

HOKIES!

Go Hokies

LET'S GO NAW. GREAT PASS & GREAT CUT BY BLACKSHEAR. COME ON BABY

GREAT PASS by NAW

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FUG YEAH KBJ

Let's go!!!!

KBJ!!!

LET'S FUCKING GO BLACKSHEAR!!!!!

I SAID LETS GOOOO

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BS free timeout for FSU

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AND THE F'N FOUL

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

fuck me

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Buzz Karate Chop GIFTORY
IN MY VEINSS

Hit a freaking FT

Fuck me. OT after missing how many from the stripe

7-13

GIVE ME THAT BUZZ GIF.

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Really...

We would do something stupid like that on the final possession.

Is it basketball season yet?

karate chop buzz is the best!

#Bapn ain't EZ

Wanna win put boobie in! Let boobie spin coach!

We had a timeout...

That last play made no sense at all. We had the TO and time to dribble further

Welp. Everyone & their mother knew that was gonna fucking happen. God damn it

My watch just told me to breathe.

And the bench guy haunting us again. That's his fourth three pointer to get them back in the game. Just unbelievable how open we let them be in that situation.

I told my coworkers that was going in. Asked how I knew, that's Hokie basketball.

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

Welp its the Devin Vassell show today folks. That dunk gives him 14 points on the day.

This has to wearing them out, played yesterday OT today and no bench. When is first possible game for NCAA?

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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Nevermind, spoke WAYYY too soon. Sorry, my data usage is in Safety Mode & everything is too slow.

Waho's suck
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Unfucking real with these 3s

Fuck

So Buzz will call a TO with 1.5 seconds....

Is it basketball season yet?

god damn it

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Fuck me

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

Honestly is anybody surprised lol. Jesus fucking christ.

NAW blew this game multiple times.

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Why does NAW go 1 vs. 3? Why?

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

They had multiple chances and just didn't have it in the tank. It's a shame because that would have been nice for seeding purposes.

FSU sold their soul to the devil to win this game. They had to hit a contested inbounds-play corner three, a highly contested three, and a contested diving fadeaway 18 footer to win.

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

All we needed to do was hit 1 freaking FT. VT blew it, give FSU credit for making plays.

Anyone surprised, team didn't have it against FSU all season

If we had just shot 3's bad instead of abysmal, we would've won

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Anyone surprised, team didn't have it against FSU all season since 2016. FTFY

Mann just threw that last "shot" at the basket and it went in. Let's not lose sight of the fact that we didn't need this win to get in the tourney. We've got at worst a 5 seed.

NAW needs to stop playing the hero, this isn't the first time he's missed a late game decider this season. Very un clutch.

He led all scorers. Arguably should have been a foul called

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You will not get that foul at that stage of the game.

Period. Refs swallow their whistles, they always have and always will

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

Unless you are NC State playing Clemson. Then you get the call without contact.

My problem isn't that he took the shot, its that he took it with 10 seconds left on the clock. That was very poor poise IMO.

Is it basketball season yet?

Bingo, we gave FSU a real amount of time to get whatever shot they wanted for a game winner when he made that call. We could forced to have 3-5 seconds instead if we had used the shot clock instead of driving in with time to spare against 3 guys at once.

Lots left on the clock from a poor position.

I will never understand why coaches don't foul at the end when up three.

Or call timeout with basically the last possession

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FSU was not going to inbound the ball inside of the arc. A foul would have certainly sent them to the line for three because whoever caught the pass would have immediately pulled up for a shot.

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

We could have fouled when they had the ball before it went out of bounds in the first place. You can also foul on the inbounds and the only repercussion is not being able to substitute players. We had timeouts and could have easily figure these things out.

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Foul before the ball is inbounded

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That's a tech which gives them 2 FT's & the ball

Did the NCAA change that rule? I am 100% sure that happened to us in a game against Clemson or FSU about 10 years ago and there were no repercussions other than they weren't allowed to do their offensive/defensive substitutions.

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Is it? when did that happen?

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Not sure when it was put in place, but why should fouling the other team give you a competitive advantage? It's a good rule.

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

I mean... that's not really the question. Are you certain that's a NCAA rule?

I couldn't find a definitive answer that there was a rule change to make it an automatic intentional foul.

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I'm not certain it's a rule, and I can't find it anywhere. I always assumed fouling before the ball is inbounded was an intentional foul (free throws and the ball). That may be an NBA rule though.

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

As long as it's not a blatant hold it will likely never be called a tech. Playing good "aggressive" ball denying defense SHOULD result in a basic foul.

Yeah obviously then no, but I would've fouled around when they crossed half court on the way up.

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Very, very poor end of game management.

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Dammit!

FSU basketball has turned into what FSU football was for us during the Bowden/Beamer years.

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Chokies. God damnit.

I hate that name, but I upvoted you to balance out the DVs since I don't think it's unwarranted. At least three different occasions to either ice the game or force even more heroics from FSU at the end of regulation and OT.

Did we have a chance to close it out? Sure. But don't bring that name out when those guys were losing for the first 39 minutes of that game and almost came back and won. They missed FTs and couldn't close it out, but this wasn't a blown game.

Sure, i agree with you there. Im just giving out the proper use of choke in the context of sports.

This wasn't a choke. They made three almost impossible shots to win. That's a team winning - not a team losing.

Two most incorrectly used words today: Racist and Choked....

It bothers me to no end when we lose a game and people just clammer on about how we are the "Chokies" and how we choked, etc.

Losing to a higher ranked and higher seeded team when we didn't have our first lead until the final minute or so doesn't constitute a choke...even reversing that role and losing a game when slightly favored isn't really a choke...

If you want choke, let me offer a better example:

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The potential for a choke isn't determined pre game. It isn't determined just by rankings. It is defined by distinct moments that change the course of a game from winning to not winning. Both teams can choke at different moments during the game. Missing a FT to go up 4 with 10 seconds left is a choke. It just is. It sucks, but that's just sports sometimes. I wouldn't say the whole game was a choke but I would say that the game was choked away at that moment unfortunately.

"In sports, a choke is the failure of a sportsperson or team in a game in a situation where maintaining their performance is highly important. This can occur in a game or tournament that they are strongly favored to win, or in an instance where they have a large lead that they squander in the late stages of the event."

or

"The media recognizes that choking is a dramatic drop in performance, whereas researchers have labeled choking as any decrease in performance under pressure."

Missing one free throw (even though called free, isn't a guarantee) with 10 seconds left doesn't constitute a choke in my book.

If we're using your statement of: "Both teams can choke at different moments during the game", NAW dribbling the ball at the wing for 7ish seconds at the end of regulation or driving with 10 seconds left in OT is more of a choke than Blackshear's missed FT. Even then, those aren't chokes, just bad plays.

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We had really bad decision making/plays to end the first half, to end regulation (not even counting the FT), and two to end overtime.

I think that falls pretty squarely under "whereas researchers have labeled choking as any decrease in performance under pressure."

Got it, so any mistakes made during the course of a game is choking.

I still don't see how us being in a position to win a game that we had no business being within 15 points of is a choke.

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I can't help but laugh that for someone complaining that people are not using terms correctly, you completely mischaracterized what I wrote.

I applied the definition you gave to very specific moments in the game.

But don't let that distract you from your rant.

Sorry if my backing up my team is coming off as ranting...

You took my definition of: "whereas researchers have labeled choking as any decrease in performance under pressure." and then picked out 3 mistakes from the game that happen to coincide with the clock running out.

I don't think pressure really coincides with time left on the clock simply because that's when us as fans feel the most anxious.

You obviously feel like choking is relative to time left on the clock, but you never specified that. So how am I mischaracterizing what you wrote; if you pulled out a broad aspect of my definition (any decrease in performance under pressure), and left a broad response to it in relation to game mistakes?

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I agree with the comment above. The opposing team making improbable shots isn't a choke.

NM

Great comeback, but that only rings hollow when you can't seal the deal.

So many chances to put them away late, and we blew it

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

Welp..on to the next one folks!

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KBJ could have sealed it with a free throw in Regulation. NAW took a terrible shot with time left on the shot clock and gave FSU 9-10 seconds to find the game winner in OT when we could have forced them to have 3-5 seconds instead.

He also dropped an easy rebound out of bounds under our own bucket at the end.

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Missed free throws & bad turnovers by NAW down the stretch killed us. FUCK. Most pissed I've been after a game in a while. That game was ours & we blew it. FUCK.

Legit Tech sports is gonna be the death of me

I feed off of nightmares

Nin Hurt is my song of choice the rest of the day

I feed off of nightmares

As a long-time fan of all things VT, as soon as Blackshear missed that FT I figured we were sunk. Hell of a fight by our guys, but just not enough to overcome the miscues.

We didn't deserve to win that game but boy, did we get jobbed by no-calls end of the half and in OT. Fugly game. Rest up fellas - let's get that 5 seed and make a run with 5 back.

Not funny. Not funny. And now the baby is upset.

It's not THE reason why we lost but we could have had some better end of the game management by Buzz there that would have given us a better chance. You could go either way at the end of regulation on whether or not to foul. Personally, I would have played to foul. At the end of OT, Buzz absolutely should have called a TO with 12 seconds left on the shot clock (16 on the game clock?) when NAW was dribbling around aimlessly getting nothing. A TO there would have given us plenty of time to set up a look. Instead, NAW dribbled into a really really hard layup. We had TWO time outs. Makes no sense to let that play out and not call one.

Love the fight, not the decision-making by NAW. Love seeing Med going into NCAA's with confidence though!

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

NAW completely lost situational awareness on that last shot and puts up a very low percentage prayer with 5 FSU guys around the rim with 10 seconds left when we could have run another 5-7 seconds. As good as he is, he still has a whole hell of a lot to learn about basketball before he's a serious player in the NBA. He'll get drafted, but he has a lot of growing to do.

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

If only we had any timeouts left to draw up a play in that situation instead of NAW aimlessly dribbling while waiting for Blackshear to limp back on offense.

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When we're playing our game, that drive is a dish to the outside when he pulls 3 defenders. When NAW buys into the NBA prospect hype, it's a wildass drive to the basket hoping for the whistle. If there was any precedent for getting that whistle, this would be a good strategy, but all season those are just turnovers. All the more when you've got 10 seconds left in overtime in the ACC tournament.

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I honestly still have a hard time seeing him as an NBA pick this year. I know there's a ton of hype but he is not on the level of a lot of the other guys getting NBA mentions. He makes poor decisions that lead to turnovers or poor shot choices several times a game. His talent is undeniable, but he would definitely do well to refine his game another year at VT... plus we could selfishly use him next season of course lol.

24 point differential from beyond the arc in this game.
Bench outscored 33-7.
Hokies 7-13 from the line while FSU 9-11.

Postgame Vent thread? Anybody??

Waho's suck
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I think we're in it already

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That is not how you want to go into the NCAA tournament. You wanna go in with momentum & playing well & tough. We clawed our way back into it but then shit the bed at the end of regulation & OT. Really hope this sour taste doesn't carry over into the tourney because I'm pretty fucking pissed off right now. Can't imagine being in that locker room. They better come out with their hair on fire & ready to make heads roll. If we have another game like that & lose first round this season is going to be tarnished in a lot of people's minds

This is the best Hokies basketball team I've watched in years.

This is a team that has faced a tremendous amount of attrition this season, namely its most important player.

This is a team that figured out how to win without said most important player.

Buzz struggles with FSU (and still hasn't beat L'ville), yet found himself, and his team, in a position to win despite a terrible day from 3 point range and from the FT line.

I hate losing. We had opportunities to win at the end and didn't cash in. That sucks. But dang, whatever happens from here on out, this season will not be tarnished in my mind at all.

Is it basketball season yet?

come out with their hair on fire

I think that would make it hard to take a good shot

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Assuming we weren't gonna win the whole tourney, how exactly would you have preferred to lose? Blown out? Very few teams go in with momentum. Sure, we didn't play well, but like you said, they clawed back and fought. Lost a heartbreaker. If anything that should give them even more motivation to go out and perform next week.

Win to get the 4 seed and avoid the 5/12 upset we're probably going fall victim to.

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Jumping pretty far ahead with assuming we're already gonna lose. Sure, win this game. Then what happens if we got waxed tomorrow? Is that really the "momentum" we want to go in with? It sucks, but let it light a fire, take the 5 seed and don't look back.

I'm not assuming we'll lose... But with the luck VT has, we'll be the victim opening day. JRob could be back, but could be rusty.... So I can't feel fantastic about his return. If he played in the ACCT, I'd feel better.

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The worst part is that our opponent (if it's a 12 seed), will be either a conference champion or a winner of a First Four game so they will have all the momentum

And the same is true if we are a 4 seed (conference champ part).

I guess we should have lost the last two to Miami to try for the 6 seed. /s

My coworkers just looked at me when that shot went in. People don't realize, Hokies basketball will rip your heart out enough to the point you are dead inside and you expect these things. I hate Sean Dockery.

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

Not just tech basketball every tech sport does it

I feed off of nightmares

I had an immediate flashback to Tyler Hansborough making the buzzer beater from the right wing in 08 I think when Mann's shot went up.

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too soon with that name

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

Might be bias of the moment, but it seems like VT hasn't been able to close a ton of close games this year. Duke and Purdue are the only ones that come to mind against decent teams, while we've dropped close games against PSU, Clemson, Louisville, UVA, and FSU twice.

Are we really counting Clemson, Louisville, and UVA as close games? I mean we drew up plays to cut the deficit under 10 with our last possession in at least two of those, maybe all three

The second UVA game we lost by six and had four missed shots in the final minute.
Clemson was a five point game with 1:08 to go, but then Clemson outscored the Hokies 6-2 in the final minute.
Louisville was a five point game with 1:49 to go, but then Louisville outscored the Hokies 9-6 in the last 1:49.

Definitely shows a lack of ability to close out, especially if you throw in both FSU games and the Penn State game on top of those three.

Which definitely speaks to the short bench and tired legs the Hokies have been relying on this year.

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

Goddammit.

Yeah, I'm late. But still... Goddammit.

Leonard. Duh.

Med, NAW, and KJ can only will the team so far. Yes the latter two missed some free throws, but they played their asses off. Unfortunately they played 3 on 5 for nearly the whole game offensively

Upset in the result and end game management like everyone else but excited to see our guys with some rest in the tourney. Also we were given the ever elusive karate chop buzz gif today so take that as a win!

I don't know what a Hokie is, but God is one of them!

Extra rest before NCAA's. Is there any chance Tech gets sent down here to Jacksonville?

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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Most mock brackets I'm seeing have us out west

One has us playing Saint Mary's about an hour from their campus

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

Fuck that...

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IM always giving side eye to the committee that gives all these none top seeds games in their own state.

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As someone who lives in San Francisco, I will be so happy if we play in San Jose

I'm not gonna try to analyze the pod system for the rounds of 64 and 32 (too many factors and we're unlikely a top 4-seed so we don't get a ton of consideration in this). The good news is that our likely seeding gives us a good chance to get to the sweet 16 and I find a hard time seeing us in the West regional. It's also a bit convoluted, but stick with me here:

  • UVA and another ACC team look to be locks for 1-seeds. Since the committee likes to reward 1-seeds with "nearby" regions, it's likely the Zags stay out west (likely still a 1-seed) and both ACC 1-seeds take some combo of the East, South, and Midwest.
    • The higher team will take the East in all likelihood and the other will take the Midwest since the other 1-seed should be the SEC tourney champ.
    • MSU winning the B1G might be enough for them to steal a 1-seed if LSU wins the SEC over UK/Tenn. In this case, the 2nd ACC team would probably go to the South, and MSU would take the Midwest
  • The remaining ACC team should be a 2-seed, and also stay close to home and take the remaining non-West region.
  • FSU is locked for a top 4 seed, and would have to go to the remaining region, West, by rule - top 4 teams in a conference are forced into separate regions if they're all 4-seeds or better. Tbh...kinda sucks for them to be the 4th best ACC team in this instance. We'd likely be in this scenario instead had we won yesterday
  • Assuming FSU ends up a 4-seed, we can't be the 5 seed in their region. We've played twice, we can't meet again before the sweet 16, again by rule.
    • If FSU ends up a 3-seed, this could move them out of the 4/5/12/13 pod and wouldn't prohibit us from being in their region
  • Since we haven't played any ACC teams more than twice, we can meet them as early as the sweet 16 (round of 32 if you've played only once; Elite 8 if you've played 3 or more times). Our seeding means we aren't gonna end up in a pod with a 1 or 2-seed, so we can be in any of UVA's, Duke's, or UNC's region.

I honestly thought seeding and regions was a form of dark magic. This has been enlightening

When I see the final bracket and the teams we have to beat:

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I like puzzles and math, and this is a combination of the two. It's weirdly almost like solving a difficult sudoku - you know where certain things go and where they can't go and just rearrange stuff until it works. Don't quote me on this, but even seed lines based on the S-curve aren't set in stone. The committee might originally decide you're the 32nd best team, good for the last 8 seed, but if the bracket doesn't work out you can get bumped to "make the bracket work" for the better seeded teams.

Honestly I became a lot more okay with the L immediately after KJB came up a little lame in OT. I'd much rather make a good run at the big dance, we need all our guys healthy. Would have been cool to get another shot at UVA but with our depth and this format, we'd be hard pressed tomorrow anyhow.

Hope we get our minds right and get ready for a good run.

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All the same, I can't help but like the FSU bballl team. Coach has a great first name, and I like how they don't mind showing up for a rock fight. I'd pull for them in the dance.

Leonard. Duh.

That's odd.

I kind of hate them for making ridiculous clutch shots when our team was struggling to make them.

I don't think Hamilton is as good of an X's and O's coach as he gets credit for. He's undoubtedly had a lot of longevity in the toughest league in the country, but he pulls in so much athletic talent I'm shocked that he hasn't been able to do more since he started coaching FSU in the ACC:

  • 2 trips to the ACC tourney finals, with a 1-1 record
  • 0 ACC regular season champs; best finish has been a single T-2nd and 3rd quite a few times
  • One elite 8 and one sweet 16

This is with 12 players drafted in the NBA during his tenure - two of them lottery picks. As well as a few 1-and-dones, McDonald All-Americans, and other top 50 recruits. The only time he didn't have a draft pick on his team was between 2012 and 2015, and he didn't get above .500 in-conference in those 4 seasons.

Dude can recruit but can't put together a top-50 team without stars.

I found it hilarious how the announcers yesterday kept comparing how tough and well coached both teams were and how well Florida State has been able to maintain consistency in the ACC without McDonalds All Americans nor top rated recruits.

I agree with a lot of this.

His high-profile gaffe in last year's Elite 8 game against Michigan is a microcosm of his X's and O's - your team is down 4 with 12 seconds left, Michigan has the ball, and you don't foul and let the clock expire. Uhhhh, what?!?

I lost any faith in his FSU squads after they got destroyed as the #3 seed in the second round of the 2017 tournament. That was another check in the box against his coaching ability, even if that Xavier team that beat them ended up in the Elite 8. It's just hard to fathom losing by 25 when you're supposed to be one of the 12 best teams in the country.

It sucks to lose but ultimately I'm okay with it.

They hit some miracle shots to close out the game and we were ice cold from deep the 1st half of the game. We also missed some big free throws late. Without JRob, I think we are going to live and die by the 3 here on in.

Playing games on consecutive days with our depth seemed to hurt VT's deep shooting.

NC State was 15% from behind the arc today after playing yesterday.

VT almost pulled it off. FSU was clutch at the end twice tonight, we made them take tough shots.

"The Cup is going nowhere MIkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Ok, I didn't get to watch until like the last 10mins and OT and I didn't see anything up top...did something happen to Outlaw?

Amateur superstar and idiot extraordinaire.

He just couldn't hit the ocean from the beach.

He only took 2 shots. He had a wide open 3 and passed it to Hill. Was he off in the shot arounds? (Hill hit the 3 so can't argue the choice). But we are going to need him to shoot 3's in the NCAA tournament.

"The Cup is going nowhere MIkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

See, that's why I thought he may have gotten hurt. Zero points on 0-2 fg. I know it can't be your day everyday, but damn, at least give it a go.

Amateur superstar and idiot extraordinaire.

He left yesterday's game and went to the locker room for a bit before returning. Definitely concerning that his usage and effectiveness were very limited today. Throw in that Blackshear was limping for the last few minutes of regulation through OT and it honestly might be better that we lost.

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I believe they mentioned he got dinged up in the previous game but was playing thru it. I never heard them give specifics though

After have 12 or so hours to digest the loss, I will say this.As infuriating as the officiating was, as disappointing as it was to see the shots just not falling all damn day, as much as I would love to beat FSU (fuck them), I am at peace with the loss.

The lack of depth showed big time in game 2 in 2 days. We just didn't have the legs to get into the shots, lazy passes, etc. We have what 7 players who log minutes? Asking them to do it again on a 3rd day in a row, against a very good UVA team would be a very tough ask, no doubt they would give their best effort...but when you are pushing your body to the limit day after day, that's when injuries happen. We already saw Outlaw and KBJ get a little banged up, those are two that we need healthy for the big dance (honestly, we can't afford to lose anyone)...I mean FSU was doing damn line changes, and we essentially played with 6 people (Horne got 4 minutes, Kabongo got 1 minute, Wilkins got 21).

It would be nice to get another crack at UVA, but would we have beat them? Who knows, but I have my doubts. Rest up, get healthy, and get ready to get 5 back and make a run in the tourney!

Go Hokies!

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

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