What if 2006...
In 2005 The Hokies had one of their best teams they have ever fielded. The Offense led by little Vick with a plethora of outstading skill position players from Cedric Humes to Eddie Royal and everyone in between and a solid offensive line. And the #1 overall defense statistically that was led by legendary backers who need no introduction #9 and#11.
Now we all know what happened in the gator bowl with Marcus and his stomping of Dumerville then his maryjane charges. Then Beamer had enough and booted his criminal ass like he should have.
Now to the topic at hand, what if Marcus Vick had not been a dumb ass and kept himself clean and outta trouble and were able to return for his senior season in 2006?
In my honest opinion I believe Virginia Tech would have won the 2006 National Championship. If you take a look back at that season VT had nearly its entire #1 overall Defense returning from 05 most of all the receivers from 05 and Brandon Ore to replace Humes and Imoe. The only downfall of the team was everyone's favorite QB they love to hate, the man who disgraced the #7 Mr. Glennon. I believe Marcus, Eddie, Vince, and Xavier would have led this team to run the table with Marcus possibly beating out Troy Smith for the Heisman and then thrashing Ohio State like the 2 loss Gators did. And then maybe we hold Marcus closer to our hearts than Mike in that scenario.
What do you guys think?
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Marcus Vick would of been a much better option than Sean Glennon #
But to say we'd be National Champions? I dunno about that.
Offense wasn't the problem in 2006 #
We lost to Georgia Tech, who scored 38 points on us, Boston College might have been a farce, and Georgia. Even if we win the BC game, we still dont go to the ACC Championship because we lost to Georgia Tech. We still play Georgia, and were whipping thier AXX until they fake punt and stole all momentum. We lose that one too.
Quit knocking Glennon, no he wasnt what could have been but he is what we had. He took a beating from an offensive line that couldnt block, and he still played his heart out. Glennon may not have been a prolific QB but he gave us everything he had. Under the conditions, thats alot to ask, could you have put the team on your back with 67,000 of your own fans screaming rabidly at you?
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most people #
jump on the Glennon hate wagon pretty easy, but I stop and remember the stolen jersey game and give him a pass. You still have to wonder if Glennon hadn't been hurt and they had left T2's redshirt intact what could have happened this last season.
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Its Tough #
Its tough to really speculate about 2006. Sure Glennon had some spectacular games during the season, and the awful loss to Megatron comes to mind where he continuously led the offense down field and produced points (I believe it was one of only three 300+ yard games he had as well); however, he laid an egg, along with the secondary against BC and had the worst half of any quarterback in recent memory during the Chick-Fil-A Bowl vs Georgia. Do I think if MV5 led the offense we would've gone undefeated? Probably. GT's defense in 2006 was incredibly weak against semi-mobile QB's (see ACC Championship Game: when Skinner moved in the pocket their defense was confused (HA!)) and Vick had his best career games against BC- there was nothing to say that the trend would not have continued. In terms of personnel, the strength in that team was the receiving corps and the Nation's top ranked total defense. The receivers would've been even better with MV5 and he could've masked the BC game for the defense. Winning the ACC, in my mind, would be as close to guaranteed as you could get: it was a terribly weak conference (minus Virginia Tech, who finished the season was the highest ranked ACC team in the final regular season polls) and the Division Champions had some huge holes that were exposed throughout the season. GT had to come up with a monumental effort after the woodshed beating we gave them in the top 15 game the year before and were incredibly motivated to erase those memories. With MV5 under center, we score 45+ again on GT and at least in the 30's on BC, washing our two losses. I don't change wins because I just don't feel its necessary to over-analyze.
In terms of the National Championship, I think we probably would've gotten there against Ohio State. The overall landscape of College Football was weak that year; however, the question that presents itself is would an undefeated ACC go over a 1 loss SEC team? At that time I think so because the ACC, just the past year, was possibly the second or third strongest conference from top to bottom having three teams in the top five at points throughout the season (granted not at the same time but FSU, Miami, and VT at one point or another were top 5- VT/Miami were top 10 the entire season). Now we get to the Ohio State matchup: they would be coming off the biggest regular season win in the last twenty years after beating #2 Michigan (if ever there should've been a rematch that was it- clearly the best two teams in the country throughout the season, much like this past season, and OSU hardly practiced prior to the BCSNG from what I am told, hence why they lost). Now, if they came out with the same effort against UF then yes, I could see us thrashing them systematically: Troy Smith would've been spied the entire game. On offense, MV5's penchant for not showing up in some big games would worry me, particularly against those corn-fed boys. But, my heart says 31-17 Tech, my gut says 24-21 Ohio State.
BUT, in the end, we didn't even win our Division and were just on the outside looking in on an At-Large birth in the BCS (think we got jobbed a bit that year but Notre Dame did meet their contractual obligations for a BCS game). Sorry for the rant: I am a historian and questions like this are fascinating to me personally and professionally.
In terms of Glennon, I was in the minority: I thought he played rather well in some key moments in 2007 and deserved to be the starter. In the Orange Bowl he was clearly the better of the two QB's because Tyrod kept turning the ball over and our offense moved the ball on their defense when Glennon was under center; however, the team needed that spark from TT5 to win some games. But, aside from the Bowl meltdown, my memory of Glennon will orbit around his performances against BC (x2) and Miami in 2007: both games he lit up really good defenses and managed the game effectively. However, it is also difficult to wash the LSU "experience" from the ole' memory banks along with the BC "game" in 2006 and the entire 2008 season.
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Vick Junior was a twat and if #
Vick Junior was a twat and if he hadn't messed up in the offseason he would have messed up *during* the season and fucked us over that much harder.
Don't hate on Marcus #
Yea it's true, when he was at VT, he was a hot-headed athlete that believed he walked on water and didn't need to work hard. I also remember him driving his SLK with 20s around campus. But, it's not easy when you're brother is making millions and obviously has "shady" people all around him. But, I'm sure Michael's incident deeply affected Marcus as well and I hope Marcus made a similar effort to become a better person. But I agree, Marcus, at that time, in that situation, was not a leader of a team and did not deserve to be quarterback. I just don't think 20 year old in his situation deserves harsh judgement. I'm pretty sure most young men in his situation would have behaved in a similar matter.
in my opinion #
marcus wasn't good enough to carry this team, especially with a bad OL. he had happy feet when the 3 teams that produced a pass rush in '05 they got to him. the ol was a lot worse in 06 and he wasn't tough mentally. while athletic, he wasn't a natural scrambler or runner like mike.
the dl of florida would have ate the hokie's ol lunch that year. ohio state had a far superior ol and troy smith couldn't breath without 2 future nfl players in his grill.
i love foster and our defense of the year's but let's not pretend, part of the lofty rankings wasn't due to the teams on the schedule.
vt hasn't proven they can beat the big boys for me to even think 06 nc would be a possibility. marcus was no vince young, who all but carried sorry mack brown to what will be his only national championship.
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yeah .. we think hokie fans #
yeah .. we think hokie fans are frustrated .. imagine being a texas fan -- YEARS of top 5 high school talent equates to 1 natty for mack .. but they love him -- that's for sure