OT: 2017-18 Premier League Soccer thread

So the last 2016-17 thread was getting a bit long in the tooth so figured I'd start a new one for a fresh new season. FOOTBALL IS BACK

So far this years games have been beyond entertaining arsenal and Leicester and then Liverpool and watford and now Chelsea capitulating in style to the wee burnley what is happening!

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Got my new Foxes Kit just in time to see them lose. But I'd rather stay a fan of team fighting every year than jump on the money wagons of the "top teams" Foxes Never Quit.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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I don't have any dog in the fight for the Premier League, but you do realize that the owner of Leicester City is a Thai national multi-billionaire, right?

Just because they're not traditionally a "big club" doesn't mean they're some lowly frugal spender. Their story to win the Premier League title was amazing, but it only happens because ownership spent gobs of money to get them promoted so quickly.

Almost every owner of an EPL team is a multi millionaire or billionaire. The team also found some players others didn't and used those on a once in a human history run. Now I just hope they stay in the 3-9 range from here on out. But that's why I like them, it's fun it's exciting, Man U and Chelsea etc are disappointed in years they don't win the whole thing, I don't want that for my EPL team, I want to enjoy each game and the whole h football experience, the songs, the chants the fans, the fun on the pitch.

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That's on the fan, not the club. I love all that stuff too.

Also didn't you become a Leicester follower during their title run?

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Beginning of that season. Was between then and Crystal Palace. Had a thread on here helping me pick. Didn't want a front runner.

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Fair enough. It's a lot easier to do that now that the games are on air more often than not. Used to be if you wanted to watch EPL, you were watching a 'big' team.

Everyone's got their reasons. Personally I picked Arsenal because I love the style that Wenger plays. I really enjoyed the way Swansea played a few seasons ago as well, it was very Arsenal like.

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I never played soccer so play style I can't identify.

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From champions to bottom of the table in one matchday...fantastic

Let's do this.

All things said, not a bad comeback, even in a losing effort for Chelsea being down 3-0 at halftime and down to 9 men with 15 to go.

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

I'd agree butttt it was burnley they have a nightmare going to Tottenham next week without Cahill for the next 3 games and no Fabregas next game atleast they'll be kicking themselves for selling matic and letting zouma and ake go so early

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bald silva is really throwing me off

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I love Kolasinac. I also love that he was FREE.

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Steve Mounie is an absolute steal for Huddersfield. Said it when they signed him. I know it's one game, but if they stay up, it'll be becuase him and cash in handsomely. Still pissed the deal between him and Fulham broke down last summer over a few million quid up front.

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The promoted teams look better than I thought they'd fair Brighton made it tough and Huddersfield came out to kick butt, and everyone else's pick to get relegated beat Chelsea at home, full blown premier league wackiness

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give it like 8 weeks until depth and consistency start taking over. early season is always a bit odd (albeit this has been crazy even for regular standards). I think theyll come back to earth a bit

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Of course they'll come back to earth a bit and of course the wheat will start to separate from the chaff. But points in august count the same as points in march and if Burnley can steal some more points away from home, they'll definitely win enough at Turf Moor to stay up. Having said that, I think the four teams most likely in the mix for relegation this year will be Brighton, Huddersfield, Swansea, and Watford.

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wouldnt be shocked if southampton went down either. All of their selling will catch up to them eventually

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I think that this could be the year for Stoke. And I really hope it is, screw those ogres and their boorish fans.

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I think there's too much talent in the stoke xi for them to get relegated, unfortunately. Also yes, Southampton could also prove to be relegation fodder sooner rather than later.

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United class today. That midfield is arguably the best in the world. Lukaku can easily score 30 with the service he'll get. Should be able to see off games this season, which has plagued them since Sir Alex left. Thoroughly impressed.

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I'm a diehard united fan and that performance was phenomenal but modric, Kroos, and casemiro might have something to say about that midfield thought, but matic with a blinder of a performance and Pogba that first touch is oh so wonderful, so many positives today plus clean sheet that was what you want to see.

Also spare a thought for zabaleta my god he was everywhere doing everything I'm still surprised pep couldn't do anything with him if west ham feel good about anything I thought he was as good as he could be with the help he had

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love zaba but hes slowed down immensly, hes solid but a fraction of his former self and i guarentee you itll show up by the end of the season.

manu looked really good today, as did tottenham. its early but it was definitely a statement game that theyre here to compete

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Better to die a hero than see yourself become a villain retired by a 18 year old striker.

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

nonsense its not even the best in manchester.

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1. susceptible to debate, challenge, or doubt; questionable:
2. susceptible to being supported by convincing or persuasive argument.

People will prefer Madrid, City's, ect. But for me: Pogba, Matic, Mata, Mkhitaryan pose a dynamic that is umatched in their ability to not only build an attack, but enforce the midfield and impose their style. The depth is UCL caliber in it's own right with Herrera, Fellani, Lingaard. Obviously, just my opinion, but Manchester United will be a force this season, in large part because of their midfield...and that Lukaku guy. He good.

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United's midfield is no where close to as good as Real Madrid's, that's just silly speak.

As an everton fan it was pretty nice seeing wayne put one through at home. Also lukaku got me a good amount of points in fantasy as my captain. Overall, a pretty good week for everton and united

Ronaldo with the 5 game ban after pushing the ref yesterday.

They'll still win La Liga and the Copa del Rey, and probably the Champions League again, so don't feel too sorry for them.

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

Don't discount Barcelona yet. They just signed their savior Paulinho. /s Honestly their board is so bad that maybe they thought they were signing Phillipe Coutinho.

P. Coutinho
P Outinho
Poulinho
Paulinho

There is also this from @JonnyGabriel.

"Facyson is a baller."
-CFB

Poutinho is my favorite Brazilian-Quebecois snack!

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Just to put this in comparison matic is 29 and for the same fee they got Paulinho

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The price tag for Coutinho is 150m Euro (close to $200m). If they meet it they can have him. Is Poulinho the Brazilian Christian Poulsen?

First Classico I've watched this year and nice to see Suarez still knows how to dive and sell it and the ref was abysmal the game was just bout ruined by the bad reffing, I thought Ron cherry had snuck into FIFA reffing there, and I'm far from a Real Madrid fan I'm a neutral in the la liga

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That was frustrating sequence. It was foolish of him to touch the ref, even if it was rather gently, but that call was horrendous, it was in no way a dive. The ref was awful for most of the second half. I can still picture Suarez rolling around for that soft pen where he didn't get touched by Navas leg at all.

The price for dembele and coutinho just went up 10 million after watching the last two clasicos

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And Real Madrid beats Barca 2-0 without Ronaldo for the Super Cup.

Man, they are going to run away with La Liga this year.

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

Josep Bartomeu: "Uh, yes, Philippe do you need a picking up in the morning pal?"

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Good day to be a Red Devil.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Hard to win games with shocking refereeing like that. Pitiful.

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2 handballs in the box (both in isolation not that bad) penalty on bellerin, penalty on welbeck, and called off goal on lacazette.

Walcott and iwobi subs were a joke

not EPL but relevant. UCL groups are announced today. I've bolded my picks to move to knockout rounds

  • Group A: Benfica, Manchester United, FC Basel, CSKA Moscow.
  • Group B: Bayern Munich, Paris Saint-Germain, Anderlecht, Celtic.
  • Group C: Chelsea, Atletico Madrid, Roma, FK Qarabag.
  • Group D: Juventus, Barcelona, Olympiakos, Sporting CP.
  • Group E: Spartak Moscow, Sevilla, Liverpool, NK Maribor.
  • Group F: Shakhtar Donetsk, Manchester City, Napoli, Feyenoord.
  • Group G: Monaco, FC Porto, Besiktas, RB Leipzig.
  • Group H: Real Madrid, Borussia Dortmund, Tottenham, APOEL Nicosia

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Didn't expect to draw Dortmund again. But Pulisic gets to play against Real Madrid again twice so that's good for him leading up to a WC year.

Of course Tottenham draws the group of death

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Especially when Liverpool, Man United, and Man City got super weak groups where they are all but guaranteed to advance.

tbf city had some terrible champions league draws their first few years i mean shoot i can remember a few years that had 4 league champions in the same bracket

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Just got my Dele Spurs jersey a few weeks ago. Loving the switch to Nike this year.

If winning the league means being in a slugfest for an hour plus then unleashing mad hell late in the game I'm all about it. Love love love this United team.

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

They've finally shed the idiocy of the uncreativeness Louie van gaal instilled in them and they're actually being creative and free which is a pleasant sight for once, fantastic start but it's a long way to go to win it all but finally a sense of optimism is back

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LC fucked that up badly.

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Two weeks in a row that Mike Dean absolutely bottles a game. When will the epl do something about this?

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Problem is I've seen games where he's great but then like today he can be awful it'll be interesting to see how long he lasts this year if he keeps calling this way

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Wenger trying to lose on purpose? Leaves lacazette, mustafi, and sead on the bench. What a joke.

Got worked in the 1st half.

Pathetic.


But in all seriousness, I have no clue what he's thinking anymore. Welbeck on instead of Giroud or Lacazette? Watched with a Liverpool fan from England and not including Giroud is atrocious given that Liverpool's bad in the air (according to him). And the formation doesn't really give a chance for any quality build up play against a counter pressing team. You don't want to get into a track meet again them.
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"That move was slicker than a peeled onion in a bowl of snot." -Mike Burnop

We're not shit in the air, but we are shit defending set pieces. This is now two years in a row where Wenger has gotten his tactics all wrong at anfield and it shows. It's sad what's happened to Arsenal, it's like the players can't be arsed anymore (pardon the pun). I think it's time for him to go, things are only getting worse.

I think they give him the year but if it keeps like this he may not last much longer honestly arsenal weren't a top 6 side today they looked like a freshly promoted team just assembled with no chemistry or clue I was really surprised how poor they were and it wasn't the usual suspects it was the entire team was so lifeless I expected to see sloppiness but not so one sided

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Arsene Wenger is Frank Beamer.

Very, very good in his day, but never adjusted to the times. Personally despise Arsenal, but sad to see nonetheless such a massive club fall. These next five days determine if they even finish in Europa League places. Have to keep Sanchez and bring in a few other pieces. Big ask.

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Gotta say I think Sanchez is gone, his face said it all today. Arsenal were completely outclassed today

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Him laughing on the bench after he got subbed looked ominous

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Wenger is trying to get canned, that's the only explanation for what I saw. Guess I'll go ahead and find a team in another league to pull for this year cause I refuse to watch games where Welbeck is starting over Lacazette/Giroud and Bellerin starts at LWB over last years LB of the season. Bonkers is what it is.

And it's not just down to team selection. The guys that were on the field played like a bunch of lazy chumps. There's a mentality issue and as far as I'm concerned everyone except maybe Koscielny is at fault for that.

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And no ox looks to be out to Chelsea for 35m he's been great I don't know why you all are selling him to Chelsea this is getting odd

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Hell I'd put them all up for transfer and start players who act like they actually want to play. Getting so tired of watching this team half-ass it. Ox is no exception and if he thinks he's getting time at CM in Chelsea I have a (Stamford) bridge to sell him.

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he's been "great" with a bolded, underlined, italicized, capital SLASH-S. AW's insistence on shoe-horning him into the side ruined at least two games this year. Either Ox plays RWB or he doesn't play? Bellerin is a better option at RWB and playing Bellerin on the other side is a worse option than just sitting Ox.

He doesn't suit a 3-4-3 formation, and he doesn't suit a 4-2-3-1 except as a wing of the three. In that case who does he displace? He's scored 20 goals in 196 appearances for Arsenal in all competitions. He's still more potential than substance. He's blindingly fast. He can complete a dribble. He tries too hard to complete many dribbles. He's very good at crossing the ball into Row W. You can see what he tries, it just doesn't come off.

He's been hesitant to extend his contract even at outrageous wages for someone with such little final product. If he wants to go, shift him on and let him be someone else's burden. If he succeeds, he was never the issue and rather the symptom of larger foundational issues. The two are probably simultaneously true.

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Chelsea needs the depth badly. I'm relatively new to following soccer so I don't know much about Ox yet, but there will definitely be times when we need a creative CM to pair with Kante, Bakayoko or even Luiz. If he shows he's capable inside, then there's an opportunity for him.

Chelsea is supposedly bringing in Danny Drinkwater as well for depth. If Hazard returns from injury and is on form... this team will be a lot of fun to watch.

I say this as someone who's spent the past 3 years telling other Arsenal fans that they're not giving him enough credit, but Ox's best position is on the wings and this desire of his to play centrally is silly. His strengths are in beating his man 1v1, speed, and recently he's become a good crosser. His vision is pretty bad and I wouldn't classify him as creative, and his defensive output is such that I'd only want to see him in the most forward of midfield roles even if he didn't have the other shortcomings.

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Bingo. Play him on the wing in an attacking role. None of this wing back crap. He's a forward. Play him as such and he's a very very good player.

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RB Leipzig midfield dynamo Naby Keita was in Liverpool today to undergo a physical and will be a Liverpool player on July 1st 2018 (that's right, NEXT season), we paid his release clause plus a premium...something in the neighborhood of 60m sterling. We also expect to get Virgil van Dijk before the window closes for a sum similar to Keita, and are even cheekily trying to bring in Thomas Lemar from Monaco for a similar figure (with Origi thrown into the deal as a sweetener). Finally, rumors are swirling we're bringing in an older but world class forward (possible Benzema).

Hokie LFC fans....GEEET HYPE!!!!!

Edit: totally forgot to put Naby Keita's name in the first sentence

I almost spit my coffee out when I saw the Naby Keita transfer news. Old kloppo appears to have had some tricks up his sleeve.

Has the same agent as Sadio Mane...apparently that was the determining factor. Van dijk looks done for up to 81m pounds Sterling...mad.

81m lololololol

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Lemar is also inching closer as a bid for 80m has been offered. 50m + Origi on loan now then 30m next summer.

I'll be shocked if Lemar AND Van Dijk both move to Liverpool by Thursday.

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Looking more likely than not at this point we're throwing a lot of money at the club's. Plus there is a scenario where we sell coutinho for 150m to recoup a big chunk of this outlay.