Fall 2017 Fishing Report and Advice Thread

It is my favorite time of the year, and that doesn't just mean football. Fall means red drum fishing in the Outer Banks!

As always, post reports, pictures, and ask fishing questions here. October is red drum for me. November is striped bass. I will be happy to give tips and locations as best as I can.

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I'm headed down to Sunset Beach, NC for Saturday through Tuesday. I will be picking up a Pescador Pro 12 kayak so I have some more mobility on the water. I will be trying out some backwater spots hoping to get on some reds and specks. It should be low tide when I get down there Saturday evening so I can see where the oyster bars are at. I can tell somewhat based on checking out google maps satellite imagery. I might try out the Little River Inlet Jetty if there is a calm day. Reports were saying there are some over-slot drum being caught on the Jetty.

With this NE blow, those drum will come out of the sound and feed, for sure.

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I was looking up the weather reports and the wind is going to be out of SSW, W, or SSE. Does that mean that fish will stay in the backwaters more?

I will defer to others, but I assume yes. I don't know backwaters fishing nearly as well.

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French probably pays more attention to the wind than I do for how it will affect fish movements. I only pay attention to wind based on how much it is blowing and what direction so I can stay out of it, find a lee, plan a drift, etc.

IMHO, no matter what direction the wind blows, you should be able to find puppy drum (18-30 inches) in any of the back waters in the sound. Kayak is the way to go. Look for grass flats 2-5 feet deep. Top half of falling tide is my favorite. Best lure: Gold spoon. If I'm spin fishing for drum (not often) I'm using a gold spoon unless I am going for them on top, then it is a Zara Spook, and I rarely do that. Johnson gold spoon, the one with the hook WELDED to the spoon is the best. Cast, reel and repeat. If they don't eat that, go home and drink.

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When you are looking at satellite imagery, how do you tell if there are grass flats? I can see some oyster bars but having trouble differentiating what is a grass flat

If you see oyster beds, fish those. Redfish and trout LOVE oyster beds.

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The darker spot circled should be oysters or grass right?

dunno but if that is the area you are fishing, paddle up those feeder creeks and fish the mouths of all of those little runouts on the falling tide. don't be "skeered" to throw into the edges of the oysters, a few inches makes a huge difference in whether the fish will hit...ifish's weedless jerk bait rig over the edges of those oyster bars will minimize hang ups. you can also drag/slow hop a gulp swimming mullet on a jig head in the mouths of those little cuts and runouts for flounder and reds. if you are there for a few days, take notes when the tide is out. if you can find an oyster bar on a creek bank next to a drop off, fish it!

i'd look for SAV behind some of those islands...if nothing else you can blind drift it with a topwater. if you are getting short strikes on the topwater, go back and drift the same area with a popping cork, swim bait, or jerk bait. finding fish is the hard part. after that, you just need to figure out what they are hitting

Thanks for the tips. I will definitely keep those in mind. What do you mean by SAV?

submerged aquatic vegetation

That is likely an oyster bed. I would expect based on the size of that creek it would be difficult for grass beds to form there. Have you fished in this area before?

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No, I've been going to the beach there for awhile but this will be the first time I've fished it. There are quite a few grass islands in the larger creeks which I would think could be productive. There are a lot of deep troughs through the other areas not in the picture. The area pictured is one of the bigger flats sections.

Fly guy knows his stuff, but as for reds on grass flats, I would go with, wait for it...yep, a 5 or 6" Gulp Jerk Shad in chartreuse and white, or nuclear chicken, fished weightless on a 4/0 offset worm hook. Gamakatsu or Owner would be my hook choice. You can cast it a mile on light line, fish it high, breaking the water often, or fish it deeper when over the potholes or in deeper water. You can also "skin hook" the bait on the hook tip and make it completely weedless. You go in at the head of the bait enough to sit on the offset and cover the eye, then in the belly slot, out the back for a completely straight line presentation. You can walk the dog with it as well, avoiding the trouble hooks on the Spook. Bonus is that big trout will smack it as well. Good luck!

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Thanks for the advice as always. Strategy for now is to use the popping cork with a gulp shrimp, bump the bottom with a jig head and some gulp bait, and to have some cut mullet on hand. I might try the zara spook out but am not as comfortable using it yet. I like the idea of fishing jerk shad weightless. Main focus will be finding the fishy spots and worry about the lures later.

Yeah, you nailed it. Reds aren't hard to catch once you locate them. All of the above will work. I like the single hook lures to avoid the problems associated with multiple hooks, including weed pick up, but Hokieflyguy's gold Johnson minnow spoon is an all time fave, and with only the single hook. They have a weed guard, of sorts, or at least they used to, and we used to put a trailer on 'em, pork rind in a twisting cut that was deadly on big largemouth in the Currituck Sound back in the olden days. Nowadays, I'd likely tip them with a chartreuse or lime twisty tail. Popping cork is always a good bet for the fish you're after in the water you're likely to find them. You know how I feel about jig and Gulp Swimming Mullet, but in the grass, it's a non-starter.
Me, I'm headed to Nova Scotia next week and will hopefully see you in October for some schoolies!

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Definitely will be able to make it down for the schoolies! Schoolies, drum or football should be my fall schedule.

The Johnson Silver Minnow as they call it does come with a weed guard and they work pretty well. I don't put a trailer on them, never found the need to, but I know many folks who do.

IFishVTIAm, I just may try out your Gulp shad trick next time I'm looking for reds and its too windy to throw a fly

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If they don't eat that, go home and drink.

This is excellent advice no matter what you're fishing with or for.

"Those who jump into the void owe no explanation to those who stand and watch."
--unknown

want a full report on the 'yak, particularly if you can comfortably stand up in it and fish.

good luck!

Thanks! I will definitely get back to you on how the yak does. I hope I can get the standing thing down, it would be pretty cool to catch a few sight fishing.

Hoping to get some fishing on Claytor lake and the New this weekend.

Well, I am not longer skunked on Claytor lake if you count a 5" largemouth bass. I have used bait bigger than that fish before.

Was on Country Girl out of Pirate's Cove last Wednesday for a full day.

Caught 5 sailfish, 1 white marlin, 1 wahoo, 1 mahi, and a shark. Was a fun day, wish we had hit up some more mahi.

I had never eaten ahoo in my life, it might be my new favorite fish, and not just because it is our rival's mascot.

Sounds like a pretty damn good day offshore to me! Congrats.

The UVA explanation of their term of "Wahoo" as a fish that can drink twice its weight baffles me. Fish live in water, they don't drink it. Morons.

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Wahoo is the tastiest fish in the ocean

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You need to come on down to FL and try snook my friend...

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My kids and I go fishing often down here in Texas, mostly in neighborhood freshwater lakes. We usually venture out with some variation of worms, Canadian blood and night crawlers. Our catch ranges from sunfish to large mouth, hooking as many as 2 dozen in one outing. This past weekend was a banner catch for me, as I snagged a 5+ lb beauty that measured almost 24". The kids had a blast watching daddy pull this big girl up on shore.

My question is regarding catfish however: What is the best way to get these gnarly guys off your hook? Any tricks to the trade? We pull in 2.5-3lb channels about every other week, and they are tough to handle. Slippery and always moving, I have found it quite frustrating to get the hooks out of their small mouths without breaking them off.

Cheers!

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I would suggest getting a pair of fish grips so that you can lock down on the catfish's jaw or you can get an old gardening glove and grab the mouth of the catfish. Either way it eliminates most of the squirming of the fish.

Somewhat ironic you'd recommend an old gardening glove...

Ahhh it is now for me... I didn't see the images when I posted haha

Thx for the pointers. The gloves I am using aren't very tight, making it cumbersome to reach inside the catfish mouth. I may try a tighter fitting glove with rubber grip.

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Hold them upside down. Not kidding. Lots of fish stop moving when held upside down.

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We always just grabbed them with the dorsal fin against the web between thumb and forefinger, the left pectoral between the forefinger and middle finger, and the thumb against the other pec. Still useful to have pliers at the ready, but you can hold a small to medium cat pretty well that way without getting stuck. Bigger ones, get the glove or gripper. I had a 25lb flathead chomp down on my hand one day and man, he roughed me up.

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Hey all, longtime lurker first time poster. I'm fishing down below Bogue Inlet and wanted to let share my success story and to let anyone who may be currently in the vicinity to know that the mackerel were on fire this morning. I ended with 12 Spanish and a handful of blues that I threw back except one I kept for cut bait. And caught a 28.5 in 5.5lb one yesterday. I caught all of them on the same lure, 1/2oz gold spoon, caught all on the surf. So if anyone is vacationing, lives in the area, etc go for it! If I can catch them I'm dang sure anyone else can.

A 28 inch spanish is some serious business!

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Shoulda posted this on original post but here she is

That's a great fish, particularly from the surf. They make awesome tacos

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Welp I'm crap at surf and sound fishing but every now and again a blind squirrel gets a nut. Been staying in Avon all week but the surf had been brutal and rough so we're having to use satellite weights to hold bottom long enough to fish but then the baits getting ripped off the hook by the insane current, not that that matters as we're not catching anything anyway. We've tried jigs and spoons for mackerel but the rough surf has made that undoable I've been throwing 4 ounce fat boy jigs and they can't even keep straight in the surf so we tried the sound but no drum the NE breeze seems to have chased the drum somewhere else, finally caught one puppy drum last night on shrimp on a pompano rig but we tried all day today with no bites at all hoping the surf quiets down enough to get some better fishing before we leave Saturday morning. Resorted to a bushel of crabs and beer to pull through the tropical mess this week.

Edit: thanks for all the advice from last week but with no kayak sound was too difficult plus bad winds the weather has really made stuff a pain

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anyone in N FL that wants to fish and doesn't want to go out in a boat this crazy weekend, reds et al are just now in close in the surf. fresh dead shrimp on a flounder rig will get you dinner.

Had that bite one Thanksgiving in the surf on Okracoke Island. The drum, both black and red, ran up to 6-7lbs and hit shrimp, the whole shrimp and nothing but the shrimp, so hep me God. There was a moderate crowd, and everything was tried, but shrimp was literally all they'd hit. After a couple of hours of nonstop action, a bunch of folks were out of shrimp and grousing about it. Finally, an enterprising young guy and his buddy realized that they were out of shrimp AND, gasp, beer. They then went around and took orders for bait shrimp, with the addition of a small donation to pay for their beer. We all agreed, somebody on the beach knew them and said we'd be unlikely to be ripped off, so we paid up, they delivered, and we kept catching them until several hours later when the tide changed things. Also, first red I ever caught, and the next twenty or so at least, came in the early '60s in the Elizabeth River in Chesapeake, on dead shrimp and a bottom rig.
Sorry, just so keyed up about the game that I'm nervously blathering even more than I'm normally prone to do, to cross threads shamelessly.

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I'll vouch for the shrimp and only the shrimp on ocracoke it's the only bait I'll use in the spring or fall they won't touch anything but a shrimp, just get a big bag and sit down on a moving tide with a bottom rig or flounder rig and you'll have plenty of drum to have fun with

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i almost never fish with live or cut bait...almost

Yeah, but when in Piscatorial Rome...

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The fishing in Idaho has been epic all summer long.

Lucky Bast... so jealous

Wow! Night fishing, are you? Extra leg for that.

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Whoa

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Beautiful! What fin does this fish possess that no other fish does?

Where is Lawson?!

None that I know about.

Oh man. Jealous!

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Looking for advice on a fly fishing rod and reel for a beginner? I have always used guide equipment in Colorado. What is a good combo under $125 and does length of rod matter? TIA

length is going to matter depending on where you fish.
a 9ft or longer rod can do much more than a shorter rod. but if you spend time fishing close quarters streams where your cast is limited then a shorter rod is easier to deal with. if your doubting the length of the rod go with a 9ft is will do well anywhere.
as far as the price, look into Temple Fork Outfitters rods. they tend to be cheap and great rods for the price. My client rods are all Temple Fork BVK

What're you looking to use said rod for? I'm more or less a beginner and I use TFO rods and reels they're reasonably priced and well made usually run 150$ for a combo

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

If you are really pinched for money get a TFO or Echo. Skimping on cost can hurt you though, say if you get a really cheap, junky rod from Wally World.

Green Top in Richmond has several TFO combos for sale for cheap right now. You can probably order online and get it delivered.

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Sorry, I'm late reading this comment. I am very much a novice, but I picked up a 9 ft Redington rod/reel combo for somewhere near that price range. I don't remember exactly, but I know I spent less than $200, and I've been really happy with it. I have no idea what I'm doing, but I've caught fish with it.

Not the bagman VT deserves, but the bagman VT needs right now.

Got a sweet Powell 6 wt on Ebay several years ago. I love that rod, paid less around 80 bucks for it.

Edit: clumsy wording.

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Hello, Ive been a lurker for a while now and finally decided to make an account. But I am from Richmond and just started at tech this fall. Anyways im not familiar with fishing in the NRV and Blacksburg area. If anyone had advice for where to go and what to use that would be great!

New River. Some of the best smallmouth fishing you can get. For fly fishing, ask Hokieflyguy *paging*.....just rod and reel the best luck I have had is weightless senkos (wacky rigged or weightless worm hook). Tubes will work great too along with some small crankbaits. Some pretty large muskie are being caught right now as well but that's a whole different beast to attack.

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I went to my first Virginia Tech bowl game while I was in the womb.

Happy to answer any fly fishing related questions.

I wish folks would leave the musky alone this time of year. It kills too many of them.

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I agree, I never target them. I wait until at least October, they just are so aggressive right now. I had one explode on a smallmouth about a month ago, looked like a damn missile.

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The issue is that there are many more muskies in the New than there used to be due to years of agressive stocking and unexpected natural reproduction. While I occasionally took musky fishermen while I was guiding, most of the muskies I encountered in the last 10-12 years on the river were caught while smallmouth fishing. Crankbaits, jerkbaits and tubes were particularly susceptible to being nabbed by ole toothy. Over the years, I had a handful of smallmouth and a handful of redeye grabbed at by muskies, none of ours were ever actually hooked, but the poor fish were shredded up pretty well, and a few muskies hung on for long enough to get everyone excited. Regardless of what they were caught on or when it was, reviving a musky after a decent battle was an extremely important part of releasing them. They tend to fight very hard, coming to net worn out and in need of help, or they get landed green and beat themselves up in the boat. There is no question that even careful catch and release will result in some fish mortality, regardless of the species (except maybe catfish?), so barbless hooks, rubberized nets, and properly matching tackle to the fish in order to minimize stress and damage during the fight can help, but sometimes, the fish is gonna die regardless.

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Well said fish. Each fish needs to be pampered during release.

Where is Lawson?!

There are a lot more of them, which is great and sure there will be mortality no matter what. I just hated seeing three different jet boats with two spin anglers obviously Musky fishing when I floated a few weeks back.

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Damn devilsticks LOL

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I know....

I'll admit I used several devil sticks today and even fished with BAIT, which happens about 3-4 times a year for me. Granted it was blowing 15-20 and I was chasing bull drum.

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Trip to Sunset Beach went fine. Spent the first two days paddling around more than actually fishing. That combined with figuring out good spots to fish made for a struggle. I was able to cast net some menhaden yesterday but on the way out all but one of them died from not getting enough fresh water into the bucket. The one that was alive got eaten by a 13" flounder. The rest of my cut bait got picked at by bait fish. The kayak I got Perception Pescador Pro 12 is really nice and lived up to my expectations of what I wanted. It tracked well and had enough storage to fit everything. The water was dirty so I didn't sight cast at all but was able to stand up in it easily. I was a little wobbly but that should improve with doing it more.

I want to go fishing so badly. Two more weeks...

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Of course the week after I go to the OBX the surf settles and fishing picks up, curse you tropical storms, hoping to get on the smallmouth bite this weekend dunno where yet though

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Had some fun at the Avon pier. Several of us were catching spot to the point of boredom. Several of us got doubles more than once. We kept about 15-20 and had fish tacos. Not bad. Someone caught about a 3' shark while we were there. I also caught two small blues. They fought a little better than the spot. Pieces of shrimp on a hand tied pompano rig did the trick. I don't fish salt water much at all so this was fun, although probably akin to bluegills off a dock. The beer tasted good.

Take those spot and cut a few of their heads off and throw back out for bull reds...

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Thanks for the tip. What type of rig?

Also why does the pier say no bottom fishing at the very end of the pier? It said something like live bait only or something.I found it strange but again saltwater is foreign to me.

Carolina Rig, but that's a bottom rig. French is the pier expert. No clue on the rules.

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And French will tell you that the rules are in place because the end of the pier has become, over the years, the realm of live baiting for big fish on "pin" rigs. Cobia, big bluefish, drum, etc., with the occasional surprise visit from a white marlin (very rare, but not unheard of) are the targets, and the rigs are set up in such a manner that it is difficult and time consuming to reel in and reset when a spot fisherman chunks a bottom rig and crosses three or four of the pin rigs, not to mention that the folks at the end of the pier are sometimes the "crustier" folks out there. When I used to pier fish, there were no rules like that and pin sets and guys fishing for big sharks pretty much took up the pier anyway, so unless you were of a mind, and temperment to elbow your way in, and unless you could cast straight enough not to impede their setups, it just wasn't the place for you. Nowadays, many piers prohibit large shark fishing, but they have fostered the live baiters and given them the end of the pier.If you want in on that action, special equipment is required, but the best way to get started is to provide them with bait, start a conversation, and then listen and observe. It's like anywhere, there are nice folks who'll help you if you approach it right.

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Thanks! That makes sense. Had I known that I would have done just as you said and tried to learn something. This was my first time even out on a pier much less fishing from one. I'll be prepared next time. Thanks again.

As usual, I have more to say on the subject, but only because with all my blather, I forgot the original target of the end of pier pin rig fishermen. King mackerel. Apologies to those who rolled their eyes at that omission.

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I wish we saw kings. They are incredibly rare on the piers north of Rodanthe.

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Yeah, times seem to have changed. We used to fish Frisco, but that was back in the early to mid '60s, and for sure things aren't the same, because kings weren't coming up every day, but often enough to attract devotees.

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SPOT HEADS = RED DRUM (on NE winds)

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On a south wind too...

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Probably stupid question but why does the wind matter? Having never fished big water or saltwater, I am not too familiar with how wind impacts fish behavior since I've never noticed wind direction's impact on the rivers and streams inland where I fish most.

Not a stupid question. In saltwater, the tide, current and wind can affect water clarity, temperature and water levels and therefore where the fish may be. Half of the battle in the salt is finding the fish.

In the OBX, wind is super important to me because I need to know where it is going to be to stay out of it. For example, I am at Cape Lookout right now and we have a heavy North wind, but that is ok because the islands protect the inland and ocean waters. If it is a south wind, its beats the crap out of everything and it's nearly pointless to fish. But, I prefer a south wind further up on the OBX where I fish super shallow for redfish, so it all depends.

French probably pays more attention to how the wind affects fish than I do. I mostly pay attention to it for where I can fish.

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The northern OBX has upwelling, which in layman's terms means the water gets really friggin cold on an offshore wind. In Kill Devil Hills, the beach faces ENE, so a SW wind makes the water flat, murky, and cold. While fly fishing for pups is a bit of a different game, big drum come into the surf zone when warm, choppy water is available. For surf fishing, you want an onshore wind and some white water. In October, the best fishing days are northeast winds and some rough water. It can be hard to catch bait those days, but if you can hold bottom (it is common to have to use 10oz pyramid sinkers) it is worth it.

Last Halloween weekend was a great example. We fished two days. The first day we had some light east wind. The spot bite was off the chain but the drum came in a slow trickle (about 8 were caught.) The next day it was supposed to pick up to a 15 NE. We got there right when the doors open and it was still dark out. First cast produced a citation. Second cast was a shark cut off. Third cast was a citation. Then I let my buddies use my gear (they didn't have surf gear) and both got their first and multiple sharks/cutoffs. By 10AM, we were exhausted with multiple citations. That extra puff of wind turned the fish on.

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That sounds like a hell of a good time. Was this from a pier?

Any resources I can go to for learning the very basics of gear, baits, pier specific tactics, etc? I tried pier fishing for the first time recently and loved it. I'd like to learn more so that the next time I go I can try for something other than bait.

Yes, from Avalon Pier.

For the drum, you have to have surf gear (mono, not braid) that can handle throwing 8 oz of weight plus a bait.

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I've pretty well decided I'm retiring to the outer banks. With some luck, I'll get into the fishing enough to learn one day.

I am counting the minutes before we can head down. I just hope the spot are there. I hear the spot are thick in the Bay right now.

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Thanks. That makes sense.

Only on a south facing beach!

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True, but I was in the sound in 4 feet of water, falling tide and RIGHT next to a big flat. It's a pretty commonly known drum spot for the area

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Anyone here have any experience fishing in Nova Scotia? Not looking for salmon, just trout. We'll be all over the place there, so if anyone has any hotspots or favorites, I'd appreciate it. Heading up tomorrow. Not a fishing trip, per se, but I've always got a couple of rods with me, and we'll be camping the whole 23 days we're in Canada, so there should be a chance to flip a fly or countdown Rapala.

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Big arctic char???

Good luck!

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Friend of mine (hes floated the New with VTFishIam) floated the New yesterday. Claytor lake got dumped Thursday in anticipation of heavy Irma rains, New is 10 degrees colder than normal and the fishing is very slow. Water is very green. Adapt if your fishing there this week.

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They used to dump the lake every year to allow homeowners to work on their docks. It usually lasted for three days, I think. We caught fish when they did this by adapting to spring, high water tactics. Although there was usually a muddy water day at the beginning, when the water turned toward green, we found the fish in the big protected slack water eddies and caught them on jig and pig in the old days, tubes more recently. The chill can definitely slow down the bite, but those fish will still eat and can usually be found in the same prespawn/spawning spots as the spring. It is a good way to have a decent shot at a big fish if you have boat control and jigging patience.

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Generally I prefer to post fishing reports when I'm back home in RVA on my couch in a bad post trip depression/detox, but I'm sending this one from our rental on Harkers Island because it is blowing 22-25 knots and getting worse tomorrow, so we've got some time to burn. The weather isn't Irma related.

Sunday evening before Labor Day I shot down to my favorite spot in OBX for a quickly planned 4 day trip. The weather was calling for winds under 5 mph, early morning high tides and clear skies which is just perfectly ripe for chasing puppy drum in super shallow water. I couldn't resist not going, especially with my lack of interest in attending a game at Fedex.

I was able to catch the 4th quarter of the WVU game at an OBX bar with our family friend that I stay with. There was one other Hokie couple in the bar and we quickly became friends.

Monday morning I woke up with an unplanned hangover and got out on the water an hour later than I wanted. That turned out to be ok because the tides were super high from the almost full moon and low light made it hard for me to see fish. The wind was perfect, but the fish were really spooky. I ended up landing two redfish at 21-22 inches. There is absolutely nothing more exciting that sight casting to these copper torpedos cruising around in gin clear water.

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Tuesday morning the weather changed and suddenly it was windy again when I headed out. My first cast was to a group of four redfish following a monster ray, which is common down there. Another cookie cutter 22 inch fish. The rest of the morning was spent battling the wind and spooky fish, no more came to hand.

Wednesday I decided to dump the Carolina Skiff in the water and battle the 15 knot winds after hearing local reports of lots of bull reds being caught in a few specific spots. I don't usually bait fish, but when I do it's because it is too windy to fly fish and I have to know there are big fish around. It took awhile but the reel finally screamed and I landed a 34 inch redfish, small compared to the 50 inchers they had been catching from this spot. My buddy hooked and lost one on a spoon, but he had absolute shit for gear. Right before we pulled up my reel sang again, and after a really strong first run, I began to turn him and then off he went again and he did not stop. 3/4 of my line was gone before he broke off... It was the biggest red I've ever hooked I'm sure.

Thursday I continued down the OBX to Harkers Island to meet up with my Dad and his best friend Bill for our annual fall fishing trip at Cape Lookout. Perfect weather for us Thursday night and we got in a two hour boat ride which was much more booze cruise than fishing before the sunset. We ended the evening steaming two dozen blue crabs.

Friday was a hungover day on the boat, we cruised all over to our usual haunts but there didn't seem to be much action going on. I only caught two pinfish on fly and Bill got one 16 inch bluefish. I think it is too early in the year for the albies. Since the fishing was slow, we ended up hiking the Cape Lookout light house which is a must do if you are ever in the area. It is some of the best $8 I've ever spent. The views are unreal.

Yesterday we hit the water early with 18-20 knot winds predicted and fished a stretch of beach that my local buddy told me had schools of reds were on. I fished that stretch hard from foot and saw lots of mullet, but no strikes. We called it at 1 p.m. and got our asses handed to us on the way back to the house in the head wind. I cooked some steamed shrimp, and both blackened and fried flounder and blow toads last night for dinner that the local crabber gave to us. Blowtoads are delicious! Highly recommend them.

The wind is honking today, so we will continue drinking, do some odds and ends to the boats and equipment and maybe explore on foot a bit. Heading home tomorrow but I will be back to Cape Lookout in two weeks with friends/clients for another 4 days of fishing.

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the locals love those blowtoads. I am surprised there were no pompano around.

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I spent last week backpacking the Wind River Range in Wyoming, and decided to pack in a fly rod. It wasn't a wildly successful fishing trip, but I got to spend some time in some beautiful country and I did manage catch a few small Goldens.

Not the bagman VT deserves, but the bagman VT needs right now.

Gorgeous!

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Currently sitting on top of Grand Manan Island on the Bay of Fundy, home of the world's largest sardine fishery. Seafood everywhere, Atlantic Salmon being king around here, along with, of course, lobsters. Got a birthday dinner coming up Friday, and I plan to try to down a couple of 1-1/4 pounders with as much beer as my wife will let me imbibe (I'll be driving the short route back to the campground, so there's that constraint). I haven't had a chance to wet a line, and may not be able to fit it in, but damn, it really is cool up here in Canuckland. Three weeks in Nova Scotia should give me a chance to catch something, but sometimes the wonders of a world less traveled overwhelms the need to jerk lip. Hope to have a report at some point, and I will take pics if I can.

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Jonah crab is my favorite crabmeat; like it better than lobstah. a Jonah crab etouffe' is about as good as it gets

Never had a chance to try it. Is it a cold water thing I might find up here?

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historically it was bycatch in lobster traps. that's about all I can tell you.

was introduced to it during a Maine vacation in 1987. we were buying lobsters off the boat/dock on Swan's Island. And they were good. but we were also buying jonah crabmeat whenever we could get it. I opened up my cajun recipes on the crab and it was amazing.

Have a great time fish!

Where is Lawson?!

Thanks, Musky. So far, so great.

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NAVIONICS.

Folks, if you don't have this app and you want to know about wind, weather, tides and up to date charts anywhere in the world, download this $10 app.

$10 may seem like a lot for an app, but my buddy is a very large commercial fishing vessel captain and this is what he relies on all over the world. He suggested it to me.

I've been using it for the past year and it is the most up to date on tides for specific locations of any resource I've used. I do not fish any coastal waters without checking it and I check it multiple times throughout out the day when on the water.

Also, I guided today at a spot out of on the Bay very close to where IFish lives and saw 30 plus redfish in less than 3 feet of water. My client blew shots at a dozen of them. I won't denote the exact spot, but if anyone can get out to the areas around the mouth of the Rapp in the Bay the next month, this is your best chance to catch a Virginia redfish in the next 2-3 years IMHO. Happy to answer any questions about it.

Tight lines, ECU sucks.

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Done any fishing for drum in the mobjack area I have a boat in the east river but I haven't heard much in regards to drum near there so I've stuck to freshwater this year plus not good reports on my favorite breakfast fried fish, the yellow bellied spot, have left me a bit less worried about going to the bay instead of staying inland

Edit: also I'll back up the navionics app I have it and it's the best thing for saltwater stuff in particular useful as a garmin but on your phone

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Yes, Mobjack is where I am finding them. Docks on the east river should hold fish. The older the wood, the better. I'm in my kayak fishing the lower portions of the tides and finding the reds super shallow on grass flats.

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Ssshhhhhhh! Am back in town if you get the yen and have time to get together. I've got a couple of docks up the North that should be hot as well as the grass flats near the lighthouse.

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LOL telling me to "ssssshhhhh" when you're mentioning the light house!

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I know, right?

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Let's move this to email....

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Big drum are out on the beach. Some buddies got them off of Sandbridge today on the NE swell. Be warned, those Virginia Beach guys are crazy. 8oz leads flying everywhere.

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your best chance to catch a Virginia redfish in the next 2-3 years IMHO

Why? Regs change?

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Redfish cycle into the Bay every 2-4 years in good numbers. This year is the height of it. In the "off" years you can still find them on occasion, particularly further south into the Bay. Once this years crop of puppy drum hit the higher end of the 20 inch range, they will head out and head offshore to start breeding.

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there are currently no piscivorous fish in the inshore waters between St Augustine and Ponte Vedra. all of the baby shrimp, mudminnows, and mullet are safe. that is all.

Can't remember the last time I didn't even get a tap. all of the whiskers on my gulp shrimp stayed attached

and the water looks awful

As primus would say FISH ON!!!

Hello all you boys and girls I'd like to take you to the inside world It's quite an irregular place to be But never fear you're safe with me. Well maybe

Any suggestions on tackle for October around Ft. Collins Colorado? I'll be on a medium heavy rod (break down for shipping purposes) with a spinning reel. We'll be on some trout water and whatever else happens to be swimming around.

I know Colorado is a stretch here, but there are a few folks out there.

Medium Heavy is going to be an awfully big spin rod for trout out there. If you fish a river, brown trout should be in spawning mode. Spinners or small spoons will make big aggressive fish swipe at them. Please use single hook lure, take a net and handle them with proper care.

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Yeah... medium heavy is too big. But it's my only take-down rod. I'm going on a hunt. So, the space (and money) for those materials is more important than the rod. So, I'll just have to accept using what I have.

I use a lot of joes flies and small spoons. So, your suggestion sounds good to me.

Med heavy rod will work, but it works better if you gear down in line size to accommodate the lighter lures you're throwing. I have had good luck with countdown Rapalas (barbs mashed) and also gold Panther Martin spinners. YoZuri Pinfish suspending jerkbaits also work well. Probably too late to help you, but I've been out of country and just now catching up.

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Barbless.

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I went fishing on the James for flathead catfish yesterday with a couple of college buddies and a local guide. Starting at the Huguenot Flatwater, we caught multiple varieties of panfish to start the trip to use them for live bait. We also caught some finger length smallies and largemouth. I caught a 9" smallie as we got near the Z dam. Then we went to a few holes below the Z dam and were able to catch 20 flatheads total. Largest one weighed 22 lbs. It was a fun trip and I now have plan for fishing the area. Will post pictures later

Nice, I am envious.

Nice job, did you all release those catfish? That's a pretty popular hole for them.

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Yep, all were released back to be caught another day. We saw some other people wade fishing in the hole. Huguenot Flatwater did have plenty of panfish to be caught.

Ladies and Gentlemen, to celebrate this great time of year I call "Drum Season" I have composed a detailed fishing tale. Feel free to read, or just enjoy the photos:

-VTwoodsman

Like French, my heart gets to beating like a *ahem* Drum come fall time. I caught Drum Fever early on last fall, and have yet to find a cure for it. It all started on a November night everyone should remember well. Coach Fuente and the boys from Blacksburg had just finished a thriller of a game, beating Notre Dame 34-31. My father and I had just gotten settled into a small condo we were renting in Nags Head when we heard the radio. Out of excitement (and an itching for saltwater action), we headed over to the Avalon Pier, eager to see if the drum were still running. After being told three times that the drum had moved south, my father and I threw cast out cut mullet and a four ounce weight off the end of the pier into the rough surf below. Not thirty minutes later, Dad had a 48" red drum to his name, the largest fish he had hooked and landed in all 61 years of his life.

I was absolutely amazed at his accomplishment, and he will point to the wall where the ciatation hangs and tell the story to anyone who walks in the house. Having not pulled the fish in myself, I did not quite understand why my father's eyes had an excited and refreshed look in his eyes for days to follow. I was determined to find out first-hand. Three days later, we both left the condo early in the morning to fish the point for the entire day. When we arrived, the conditions were great: bluefish were jumping, gulls were diving, and the fishermen were catching. I knew as i parked the truck in front of a slew in the surf that this was going to be a day I would never forget.

The morning was extremely productive. Using an array of baited rigs and casting spoons, my father and I caught our limit of taylor blues (15 each) within three hours, keeping only the ones over 14" for dinner, as well as a few smaller ones for bait. A few more blues, and puffer-fish later, nighttime was upon us. As dusk approached, there was something in the air that hit me just right. Maybe it was the sunset hitting the water to the west of me, or the gentle crashing of the waves heightening my senses, but I definitely felt a sense of anxiety. Without warning, I caught a glimpse of the ten foot Penn surf rod bend over with a vicious scream coming from the reel. Fish On! I grabbed the rod and reel and held on for dear life. Now, having grown up in the little Appalachian town of Marion Virginia, I was a stranger to the ways of large-game fishing up until then. Unlike hooking into a nice rainbow trout, this fish seemed to just keep running and fighting. Try as I might, I could not turn him the way i wanted to. Finally, as the battle began to come to a close, it seemed i had (barely) won. I pulled the 39 inch fish from the surf, marveling at the beauty of such a ferocious animal. I could feel every gasp of air he would take, for i felt one with this fish i pulled from the water. As he was out of his element, so too was I, for i had several hundred miles between myself and where I called home. As i released the animal back into the wild Atlantic, a sense of ease and excitement rushed over me. The experience i had just shared with that fish sparked a fire within me, a fire that would lead to a devastating fever... a fever I call "Drum Fever."

But fall would turn into winter. November would become December, and Tech football would win its Tenth game this season. The fever that had originated that fall in the outer banks would follow me for these several months, never decreasing its intensity, but instead stirring up anxiousness within me. Soon, spring was around the corner, and the lack of luck while winter fishing had me itching even more. March came, and with it a trip to Hatteras, NC to celebrate my cousins marriage. Some would call it a "bachelor party," but i am more inclined to describe it as a ceremony to commemorate one becoming a man.

With a whole array of fishing gear and assorted spirits, six young friends set on a journey to become young men. The trip was full of camaraderie, jokes, and a memorable trip with captain Ernie Foster aboard the Albatross III to catch amber jack and tuna. Although the fun and excitement was enough to keep a man busy for days on end, I still felt the longing need for a striking fish of red color to be at the end of my line. This feeling lured in my heart throughout the celebrations, until the day our team of young men had to leave the sandy islands. As soon as my hand turned the ignition to the jeep I was driving, I knew what I had to do. "Guys," I said, "I think I'm going to stay one more night to get my drum." The gang all laughed as they knew my rambunctious ways would force myself to sleep in the jeep before I went home without my drum.

As the crew departed, I made a beeline for the ramp to get to the Buxton Point, but not before stopping to see the infamous "One-armed Bandit" to talk fishing for a bit. I had to try my hardest not to be talked into buying one of his custom made rods, and after buying all the gear necessary to build my drum rigs i was on my way to the point.

I had heard over the course of the week that there were great big sharks being pulled out of the surf all week, but that would not deter me from trying my hand at pulling out a drum. After two hours of fishing, i could confirm that the rumors were true, and i had hooked up with several large sand-tiger sharks before they inevitably broke just about every rig I had built for drum fishing. Feeling discouraged and a little bit annoyed, I tossed a small bottom rig only a few yards into the surf, hoping to catch some whiting or dogfish while i tied my last available drum-rig. As I was finishing the knot for the rig, I looked up to see the seven foot rod bent over with the 5600 Ambassadeur letting out yards of line at a time. I reached for the rod, just knowing there was somehow a shark on that small bottom rig. As i fought the great fish for a few minutes, i saw something that shot adrenaline through my veins. Where the line from my rod met the water, there was a flash of a tail with a single spot on the end. My heart racing, i stopped horsing the fish in, but rather let him fight the rod and reel, considering i had a relatively low-test leader and a small hook. After pulling the 32" drum out of the surf, a fellow angler came up to me amazed that i had hooked a drum in the middle of the frenzy of sharks. He took a picture of me with the fish, and watched as I released him effortlessly into the surf.

This was the second "Bull Drum" I had ever caught in my lifetime, and the fever just grew hotter. Luckily for me, I had landed a job as a field engineer on the Pensacola Bay Bridge Replacement Project, which meant i was going coastal for the summer.

The first day I arrived in Pensacola, i went straight for the beaches of Fort Pickens. I had often heard that there was good fishing to be had there, and i was arriving at the tail end of pompano season, so i decided to try my luck. When I arrived, I was amazed at the clarity of the water and the white sand beaches that seemed to gently flow into the gulf. It was about two hours before sundown, and I stopped at a pull-off to scout around and saw an elderly man with a 1970's model Shimano surf rod almost bent over. As I approached the man, I started talking to him as he was reeling in whatever animal was on the other end of his line. I could see as he was reeling in, it was a massive stingray. Discouraged, the man yelled out several four lettered words, and i went back to the truck to grab my gear. Seeing as I had nothing better to do this gorgeous evening, I decided i should at least try my luck at fishing, so i pulled out my twelve foot "Hatteras Heaver, " walked out to a sandbar 100 feet from the beach, and cast out with all my might. I walked back to the beach with my rod in my hand, standing there watching the older man release the stingray. As soon as it took one flap of its wings, i felt the end of my rod jerk once.. twice.. then nearly bend over on the third pull. I wasn't sure exactly what I had on at the time, but I knew it had to be big!

Thinking that it had to be another large ray, or a shark, i slowly lowered the rod tip, reeled in, and fought the fish. Surely it couldn't be a drum, could it? From my little experience with the species, I figured they only hung out in the cold, murky waters of the Atlantic ocean. But whatever was on the end of my line felt familiar... extremely familiar. as i heaved the great fish over the sandbar, i could see a lone spot on the tail. What a stroke of luck I had been given! All other local anglers that day had hooked stingrays and sharks, and here was a young man of the mountains hooking into a drum his first Florida outing. The fish I pulled from the gulf was the largest drum to date, measuring just at 42 1/2" with a head as big as a basketball. I couldn't believe it.

After that catch, I was absolutely sure the drum fever residing in me had been cured, but it had the opposite effect. I felt my desire to catch the fish grow even more. I found out all too late that the more red drum i caught, the worse this fever got. There was only one logical thing i could think of doing: it was time to get my fill once and for all.

If a man has heard of a little oil town in southern Louisiana called Venice, then he must have heard of the countless numbers of drum that call the Mississippi Delta home. So naturally, I attempted to rid the terrible fever with a trip to Venice, Louisiana with my father, targeting these drum (known as "Redfish" to any man from the gulf coast) with quite a bit of luck. (pictures below).Unfortunately, we found out all too quickly that our fever for these incredible animals could not be ailed by simply hooking and catching them. Instead, we found an ever increasing desire to fish these beasts. Nothing gets the adrenaline pumping more in a man then when he finds himself in the heart of a Louisiana marsh tightening the drag on light-action gear with what promises to be a twenty pound drum thrashing on the other end of the line. It is at this moment, the fever that resides in a man gets driven deeper within him, never to come back out to get extinguished within his lifetime.

After arousing the fire within my heart for the incredible Drum of Louisiana, I knew I had to retreat back to my temporary residence in Pensacola, and then back to southwest Virginia, fearful that i may never again witness the amazing fisheries Venice had to offer. However, I came to realize that it is not the location that makes the fishing so spectacular, but rather it is the experience. Here I was, a young man, originated from the great mountains that make up Southwest Virginia looking upon the great marshes of southern Louisiana with virgin eye, scoping out any sign of the great Drum. I could easily say that I had experienced this sensation on the mountain side scoping out whitetail, as well as on the beaches of North Carolina looking for the perfect slew in the surf.

I am positive there will still be countless moments in my life where I get the feeling again, and i hope this fall in the outer banks will produce these feelings within everyone who wets a line. Ladies and Gentlemen, Its Red Drum Season!!! Get after it!

Being a Hokie fan automatically takes ten years off your life... I wouldn't have it any other way.

Fantastic write-up sir! I sense another trip in the future....

That is one heck of a story! Awesome catches.

I am fishing tomorrow and Thursday on Avalon (leaving at midnight.) I will be down there the 14th-21st. Then I go to Hawaii for work and I am flying back on a 72 hour turnaround to get some rest and then head back down for Halloween weekend.

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Great post! I will be headed down to Hatteras in a few weeks to hopefully get after some old drum. I can't wait. Venice is on my list of fishing spots to visit. I also didn't realize that the limits for keeping reds were so different in Louisiana.

Protip! Don't call them "old drum" or "bull drum" around locals. They will give you grief. Also, make sure you get fresh bait. If the tackle shops don't think you know what you are doing, they will sell you crap.

Lexicon:
Over 40 inches "Red Drum"
Over Slot (29-39 inches) "Yearling Drum"
Slot "Puppy Drum"
Under Slot "Puppy drum/rat drum."

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"Old Drum" is actually an old Down East watermen's recipe of cooking red drum down in the OBX. Mashed potatoes, onion, drum and bacon and you mix it all together.

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I can't speak to the locals on Hatteras feelings about the soup. As for the term, there is no faster way to get mocked on a pier than to say "old/bull drum" or "redfish."

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That's so interesting. I say redfish all the time and have never heard anything from any OBX locals. Maybe they know I'm a touron. I pretty much use the terms drum and redfish interchangeably. I have said "drum" in Louisiana and had a local tell me that means black drum, "redfish" is the term down there.

Charleston locals call them spot tail bass.

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in the St Johns river, lots of locals call them "red bass"

Thanks for the tips French! My cousin stays down there at Hatteras all through the drum run so I should be good to go. Just hoping my casting is decent still getting the feel for the surf rod and casting with a conventional.

I attempted to rid the terrible fever with a trip to Venice, Louisiana

Let us know how that worked...

Just kidding, Venice, LA is a special place!

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Cape Lookout NC has excellent fishing for sharks and albies behind shrimp trawlers right now. If anyone has a good vee hull Center console, go. Drum should be moving into the surf in the next two weeks.

It is about to be spawning time for Brook Trout. The males get really lit up this time of the year and very aggressive. Please remember to let them do their thing unbothered when they begin spawning.

There are still puppy drum active out in the Bay. Saw several today, albeit super spooky. Got one to eat a fly, but I didn't strip set and he came unbuttoned. The tide ran out on me at dead low so I spent an hour listening to Tom Petty while lounging in a hidden hammock I found overlooking the flat. RIP Tom.

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All the mountain streams are ridiculously low water right now too so not a good time to fish for brookies. We need rain badly. SF of the Shenandoah is as low as I can remember it.

Good to know, thanks for the info!

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Good to hear about the albies, I'm going to try and go after them sometime when I get down to Beaufort. Most likely will be around Thanksgiving. Hope they are still around then.

The buffaloes will be around, also chance at pumpkin patches and good speck fishing.

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Really big spot (8 inches plus) on incoming here at Avalon Pier today. Bluefish and speckled trout mixed in. I got one big run on the drum rod and he didn't pull tight.

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Well my plans have changed, I'm headed down to Beaufort tomorrow evening for the weekend. Lots of options for different species to target (albies, reds/specks, spanish/blues). Definitely want to try to catch my first false albacore. Will hopefully have a good report at the end of the weekend.

Do you have access to a boat?

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Yes

Have you fished for albies before? Are you using spin or fly gear?

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No, I haven't. Im using spin gear. I've watched some videos and understand general concepts. Look for birds or busting bait on surface or find a shrimp boat. I was planning on getting some glass minnow jigs and some jerk shad soft bait. Im all ears for any advice you want to share

3/4 oz and 1 oz apoxy jigs/deadly dicks/stingsilvers. See fish, cast to them and BURN IT back.

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Thansk French! Any color preferences?

Electric chicken, silver, olive, and blue. All should work. You can't beat a 7/8 or 1 1/4 ounce Deadly Dick, although they don't cast quite as well as a stingsilver.

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Hopkins spoons, one oz is my favorite. There are some lead spoon like lures out there that look very realistic, get those in various sizes and colors. Size can be very important to the albies. A really good lure folks are using these days is called an Albie Snax. I found them on Amazon. Pink and White are really good.

Shrimp boats will have a variety of species, mainly sharks blues and albies, just cast behind them and follow them when they are culling.

Look for birds and make the mad dash like everyone else after the breaking albies. DO NOT run through the school. There's a bit of an etiquette, or there used to be, down there about fishing around the pods of busting fish. Everyone wants in on the action obviously, but if its crowded, don't try to nose in. Invariably one boat can ruin it for everyone. Other pods will pop up around in other places. If you are near a busting pod, do not shift into neutral. Slow down as much as you can, and then cast into or ahead of the pod. Shifting into and out of neutral can put the fish down if they are in a picky mood. They hear it I suppose.

If the water is clear the jetty will hold good fish, blues, jacks, spanish if they are around... We saw mahi and tarpon on it a few week back. Keep a strict eye on where it is and do not drift over or into the rocks. I've seen some gnarly mishaps on it.

Unless you know what you are doing or are with a trusted local, do not attempt to go across the shoals to the East side. It is some seriously scary shit.

Good luck, let me know if you have any specific questions.

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Thanks for all your advice! We went drum fishing this morning and caught 3 juvenile drum. Went to chasin tails this afternoon to get lures for albies and was ready to go but had some boat troubles. Got everything fixed now, so headed out tomorrow morning with light winds. Ready to get on them tomorrow

Did manage to catch an albie yesterday. We drove around for awhile didn't see much activity. Found a shrimp boat, casted the glass minnow jigs for 45 minutes didn't get anything. Out of frustration put out our trolling rod just to see if we could manage a spanish or blue. Right as I set the drag, the rod bends and line starts coming off. It makes a couple of nice runs and about 10 minutes later I get it to the boat. Happy I got very lucky to catch one but still want to catch one casting on light tackle.

Absolutely dying to hit the sand come Sunday, got a whole week of soaking bait to see what comes up.

Made it out bright and early this morning and fished the incoming tide. Unfortunately no takes on the drum rods but had 2 smaller ones that the wife and I could barely keep bait on. Nice mixed bag of blues spot small black drum and really nice mullet, biggest being around a foot or so. No big boys but I'm happy

My buddy Tom and I absolutely crushed the stripers yesterday AM in the Piankatank and and Rappahanock rivers- landed over a 100 stripers on fly before 12 PM.

I fished Avalon Pier the last two days. Drum didn't cooperate (3 were caught, but I didn't come tight on one- did manage a sand tiger and a butterfly ray.) On Wednesday, the rising tide brought a terrific run of huge spot (7-10 inch fish) so bait wasn't an issue. Thursday had pretty water and tons of glass minnows in the water. But, spot were rare. I tried for bluefish and false albacore and managed a handful of bluefish. The false albacore were busting bait all around the pier all day, but they stayed out of range for the most part. When they got close, nobody managed to hook up.

I have some photo and videos but I am exhausted (over 48 hours I got only five hours of sleep and fished almost 30 hours) and need to regroup before the game tomorrow.

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Going to be in Buxton for a week starting on the 15th. Are there any guides down there that will show you the surf fishing ropes?

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- ThatOneGuy

- hurricanes are uncontrollable and the European model predicts continued chaos.
they never be bak until they learn to play together as a team.

I don't know any surf guides. If you want to kayak, look up Rob Alderman.

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Thanks. What bait should I get for the surf? Which section of beach would you recommend? Does the time of day matter?

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- hurricanes are uncontrollable and the European model predicts continued chaos.
they never be bak until they learn to play together as a team.

I am no surf expert. If you want any kind of predatory fish (red drum, big trout, sharks) you want to find a place where there is a break in the bar where water looks like it is sucking out to the ocean when it is crashing ashore everywhere else. When in doubt, use a FRESH spot head or cob mullet head on a fishfinder rig 8/0 circle hook and set the drag loose. I can't give you a spot because with these storms, the beach is always changing. If you have an ORV permit and can drive on the beach, it is easiest to find spots on dead low tide. Best time for drum is the last hour of incoming tide-2 hours into outgoing, especially when that tide is during low light. Most drum fish in the evening. I prefer the sunrise bite.

Other good rigs: fishfinder with a smaller hook (2/0 or 3/0) for puppy drum, trout, bluefish. Small hooks with tiny chunks of mullet will produce sea mullet and croakers. Bloodworms or bloodworm fishbites on very small hooks will produce spot, croaker, and sea mullet. And have a medium action spinning set up rigged with jig heads and gulp to walk up and down the beach working the sloughs while you wait for trout, flounder, and puppy drum.

Oh, and fish into the wind. That makes it harder to cast, but that white water brings predators close to the beach. Easterly winds, fish Avon. Southwest wind, fish the right side of Cape Point (if it is open. South/SE winds fish Frisco and South Beach.

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thank you sir. Will pick up a ORV permit on the way down, going to hook up with Tommy Farmer for a rod.

this goin' be guud.

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"Step on a crack, break Miami's bak"
- ThatOneGuy

- hurricanes are uncontrollable and the European model predicts continued chaos.
they never be bak until they learn to play together as a team.

Nice rods. I will try to find some videos on finding those outflows. The inlets on the right winds are good spots too. Also, I like to fish on the end of piers (I am going to be in Kitty Hawk the same week.)

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In a continuation to indulge my newest hobby, I took my boys, a friend and his boy down to WNC to do some delayed harvest waters fly fishing. we drove down on Saturday and got out early on Sunday morning. The weather held with only a little light rain here and there. Ended up at a pool on the Laurel in Madison County due to low water levels.

We were between hatches, and I think coupled with the upcoming storms made for some interesting fishing. We were throwing lots of different things out... flys, nymphs, BWO, different colored eggs, even some terrestrial bugs. I'm still pretty new at this, and was surprised that some trout appeared to be getting after something emerging from the bed, as they would periodically broach the surface from their efforts.

Saw plenty of fish, but only got a few (7). I got a 12" rainbow in the first 10 minutes, and then not much until 3 hours later my youngest caught a 16" brown in a nice deep pool using a beaded yellow egg. Absolutely beautiful colored fish, the picture below does not do it justice. Perhaps we will catch it again when we come back in 3 weeks.

Good times!

PS: I don't know how to rotate this image.... in brinkley's it's correct but it rotates it here for some reason. Thanks if someone knows how to fix it!

It does not get any better than lit up brown trout. Well done. I fished Western NC in the Smokies in May. 1. Mop flies. They are on the same level as eggs if you are a purist, but wow they work. Tan, Olive seemed to be the best colors.

I ended up swinging a small black and brown sculpin I tie through Deep Creek (Bryson City). The browns HAMMERED it. Nothing of big size, but a bunch of 12 inch brownies on a 4 weight was a blast. Gorgeous area.

If you are interested, I can do a custom tied order for you. Welcome to the fly fishing addiction

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I may be interested. Shoot me a msg at vtbeer at vt dot edu.
thanks!

Anybody had luck on the New recently? The water has just been so so so low and its been tough. Hopefully this rain this week will get everything back to normal.

"Fishing relaxes me. It's like yoga, except I still get to kill something." -Ron Swanson

I went to my first Virginia Tech bowl game while I was in the womb.

Brett, it is (was) on fire for top water the past month. This rain will actually hurt that according to my guide buddies down in SWVA.

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I need to improve my form. I opened my hips and dropped my shoulder before the rod loaded.

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French is the real deal even in his fly fishing film reviews. Geeze.

Chem PhD '16

How long is that rod? 10 feet? 11? 8 ounce weight?

Impressed you don't get a birds nest with it. I cannot cast a baitcaster to save my life.

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11 foot, throwing 8oz plus a spot head.

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Can't wait, heading down to Southern Shores on Wednesday for a long weekend of surf fishing. French or anyone else in the neighborhood, I'm happy to buy beer in exchange for fishing tips!

"Those who jump into the void owe no explanation to those who stand and watch."
--unknown

sorry I missed this. I was in Kitty Hawk.

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I was down on Hatteras surf fishing this past weekend. I caught a 22" puppy drum on Saturday on the incoming tide. A couple yearlings were caught and a few other puppy drum but it was a slow day. Sunday we fished the point in the morning and a puppy drum and a few blues were caught. Fished the inlet at dusk into night but didn't have any luck. It was a good first experience of surf fishing on Hatteras. Learned a lot about casting and making sure my reel was right so I didn't blow up. Hopefully I can make it down again when the water is cooler and the fishing heats up more.

I made my annual week long trip to Avalon Pier in Kill Devil Hills to try and scratch my red drum itch. The conditions varied wildly, from a strong NE blow the first couple of days, to light NW winds and flat calm by the end of the week.

I didn't have bait. Sunday was a waste of a day. Nothing was biting and the hook up I had for spot didn't pan out. I got wind of a cob mullet score by a commercial fisherman and ran with my buddy Billy down to Hatteras Island to get dibs that night. I bought $120 in cob mullet for the week and got them iced down.

Monday was flat calm in the early morning. By 10AM, the entire end of the pier emptied and I was by myself. Suddenly the wind changed from W to N hard and I got a bite as I was putting on a sweatshirt and slickers. The fish pulled tight and felt promising, but after about five minutes a pelican flew by and hit my line to break me off. A big squall hit around 3:00PM and chased me off the pier because my rain gear had a leak.

Tuesday 10oz would not hold at Avalon, so I went to Jennettes. That ended up being a mistake as two got caught at Avalon. At Jennettes, there were a couple of runs but nothing pulled tight. I didn't get a run.

Wednesday-Friday the water laid down. We had an amazing spot bite on the afternoon incoming tide- huge spots. I got one 11 inch spot, a 9 3/4 inch spot, and probably 15 that were over 8 inches. We also had some surprises. My dad had a big speckled trout hit a bloodworm fishbite and wrap him around a piling. A lady next to us on the end got a 17 inch speck on a bloodworm. Another woman in that group lost a 30 inch puppy drum on bloodworms when it straightened a size 6 hook. Anglers in the wash got some real nice trout and puppy drum all week.

On Friday, bluefish were the ticket. I got them on sibikis, gotchas, and epoxy jigs. They were really small (10 inches was a big one.) Undersized speckled trout were around all week when the water wasn't churned up.

The drum bite was non-existent. Rob Alderman (Fish Milita) got one while I was at Jennettes on Tuesday. Evan got one at peak high tide at sunset on Thursday. Brian got one at peak high tide Friday morning at sunrise. That was it. The fish were pushed out. Rob caught four in a kayak about 350 yards in front of the pier. I ended up only with one more big fish- a large sand tiger that didn't bite off. We got it by the pier and got some video and then broke him off. I will post the photos and video later (I am leaving for Hawaii for work in the morning.)

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