A&M DC Opening

Seeing rumors that Foster is headed to A&M after the bowl game to be DC with Jimbo.

If it does happen, who's next in line to take over DC duties? Wiles?

EDIT: Just confirmed by Billy Liucci of TexAgs that Foster is out of the running for the A&M job. Sorry to ruin everyone's Christmas with my rumors post

DISCLAIMER: Forum topics may not have been written or edited by The Key Play staff.

Comments

lmao wut

i'll be the first to tell you i hope i'm dead ass wrong on this one, but i've got a weird gut feeling. especially after their attempt to lure him in 2015

No way. Here in SEC land I'm hearing Grinch from Washington st is headed to tamu. But I will say that here in Arkansas all they can talk about is what Chad Morris has said multiple times, which is "I'm going to hire the best DC in college football". Everyone initially thought venables was on the way since Morris coached at Clemson.....I laughed at all of them for that. But now they are goading me about it being Foster. Don't think it would happen, but Arkansas does have a ton of money to throw at someone like Bud. They just offered Malzahn 50 mil over 7 years and then ended up getting Morris for about half that.......they would open up the purse to get Bud if it was possible.

Update> Sources tell FootballScoop Texas A&M has their eyes on another person and that Grinch was never offered Texas A&M defensive coordinator.
http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop/

Trust me, I hate unsubstantiated rumors as much as the next guy, but Jimbo is going to assemble the best group of coordinators he can - and A&M is going to open up the checkbook.

The only reason I even posted this was because I dug up an old article from the RT about BF's previous flirtations with A&M. A lot of the quotes in this stuck out to me.

The opportunity to compete in the SEC grabbed Foster's interest this go-around, as did Sumlin's offensive reputation.

"It was intriguing with Kevin," Foster said. "His notoriety as an offensive guy and putting offensive points on the board and those kind of things and being able to get the type of athletes they can get at Texas A&M, it was an intriguing option at the end of the day."

Unlike past flirtations, the Texas A&M one had family approval.

"My wife, she was ready to go," Foster said. "And there have been other jobs that I've had an opportunity to take and she wasn't ready to go. And some of those jobs, it's not just about me. It's about if my wife's not going to be happy, I'm not going to be happy and things. But we thought long and hard about it."

Foster said his relationship with long-time Hokies head coach Frank Beamer would have made it tough to leave anyway.

We're not going to hear anything official until after the bowl game, as BF is contractually obligated to stick with the team until then. But, I wouldn't just post this if I wasn't seriously curious about who next man up is at DC if Foster were to move on.

Stienspring

Year 3 is coming up!

BF is contractually obligated to stick with the team until then.

Not if A&M buys out his contract.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

I'd assume Foster is still mulling it over. And I'd assume Foster wants to be delicate with this situation, as he wouldn't want news getting out pre-bowl game or signing day with dudes like Dax still in the wings.

Is there actually a rumor from some sort of trusted source, or even any rumor anywhere that specifically names Foster as a target by A&M? I can't find anything that lists the A&M DC job and Foster in the same paragraph anywhere other than your gut feeling?

Down the rabbit hole of internet anonymity, so the entire thing is based on flimsy sources. My initial reaction was BS, but the more I've thought about it, the more things are starting to line up.

What I've read says chances on A&M's next DC are 75% Foster, 25% the field.

The biggest thing is that whoever Fisher is hiring is obviously a sitting DC who is busy with bowl prep. The lack of news surrounding this hire is what worries me. If it was someone like Phil Bennett, he'd already have hired them by now (as you saw how quickly the Darrell Dickey hire was).

Put yourself in his shoes - he's more than likely going to pick someone he's been personally exposed to the last few years with sustained success. There are some QUALITY DC's in the ACC with Venables, Foster, Diaz, etc.

A&M wants to win. They could offer Foster $2,000,000 more than he made this year at VT.

Okay dude, prove it. Give us some links.

When I run a search on the Football Scoop link above, the following words do not appear on that page: "Texas", "A&M", "Jimbo", "Fisher", "Bud", or "Foster".

More information should come out today. HOPEFULLY putting this to rest.

That's not a link.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Since there was absolutely nothing coming out yesterday and you still haven't provided any links, I did a Google search of "bud foster texas a&m".

On the first page, six links are articles from 2014-2015, either speculating on Bud going to A&M, or the after-the-fact reports that he considered it. There's one link to an A&M board that is their version of this thread. The last link is a thread on a Texas message board that's hidden behind a paywall proclaiming Bud as the new DC at A&M.

The news search doesn't even have any rumblings listed in it.

so the entire thing is based on flimsy sources

are these flimsy sources anything more than....

i've got a weird gut feeling

if not then I don't know why this is even a post.

If you don't want to recruit clowns, don't run a clown show.

"I want to punch people from UVA right in the neck." - Colin Cowherd

We're not going to hear anything official until after the bowl game, as BF is contractually obligated to stick with the team until then. But, I wouldn't just post this if I wasn't seriously curious about who next man up is at DC if Foster were to move on.

This is ridiculous... I'm sorry, but just because there is an opening doesn't mean our coaches are going to jump at the chance. If Bud didn't leave VT when Fuente was hired over him, he's not going anywhere anytime soon, and certainly not now when VT is ready to regain its national footing and aTm is trending toward dysfunction.

This is silly. This kind of unsubstantiated crap is nothing but panic inducing trolling. This serves no purpose but to create paranoia.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Any paranoia you're experiencing is self-induced. We're set for the future with Fuente.

While I'd love for Foster to coach at VT 'til he's 70, I do enjoy discussing hypothetical situations.

Any paranoia you're experiencing is self-induced. We're set for the future with Fuente.

While I'd love for Foster to coach at VT 'til he's 70, I do enjoy discussing hypothetical situations.

Horse shit. You knew exactly what you were doing when you posted this:

Seeing rumors that Foster is headed to A&M after the bowl game to be DC with Jimbo.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Chop up my semantics as much as you want, the fact of the matter is that I've come across rumors he's leaving. Until A&M hires a DC, the rumors will continue.

He hasn't confirmed or denied he's leaving yet. So discussion of VT's defensive landscape IF (and that's a huge IF that I hope more than anything isn't true) he leaves is all based on hypotheticals at this point.

Until A&M hires a DC, the rumors will continue.

What rumors? The only rumor I am seeing is this thread. As far as we know, you are the source of the rumor.

This is like randomly asking someone on the street when they stopped beating their wife, and then calling them a domestic abuser because they don't deem you worthy of a reply. This whole thing is ridiculous.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

he hasn't confirmed or denied because the only one with the story is you! and you haven't questioned him yet.

#Bapn ain't EZ

Wanna win put boobie in! Let boobie spin coach!

fact of the matter is that I've come across rumors

The fact of the matter is you have shown zero evidence of any rumor or buzz that this is legit.

"It's a miracle in Blacksburg, TYROD DID IT MIKEY, TYROD DID IT!"

LOVE YOUR METER MAN!

The mob to WeAreVT.

Year 3 is coming up!

Be like SoupHokie... it was your drunk bro.

You will see this game, this upset and this sign next on ESPN Sportscenter. Virginia Tech 31 Miami 7

/\ needs more legs

Nope. Phil Bennett from Arizona State is most likely candidate. Have yet to find anything where Foster's even mentioned.

Quit spreading lies

I feed off of nightmares

Are there actually any rumors?

First of all, it's not the same people luring him to A&M. Second of all, if he was going to leave to be a DC somewhere else, it was going to be when Fuente took over.

Depends on how bad Bud wants to win a national championship. A&M didnt spent $10 Mil buying out Sumlin then another ~9M on Fisher and his staff every year not to have added more than one National Championship trophies.

I think Fuente can take VT to the playoffs at least once in Fishers A&M tenure, but I also expect A&M to have won more than one

I also expect A&M to have won more than one

More than 1 what? They won't win the SEC west in the next 5 years or as long as Sabin is there, not to mention Auburn and LSU.

hmmmm...

I think they said Jimbo would never bring FSU back. That Bowden was FSU

Januay 2010 — Jimbo Fisher now holds the keys to Florida State's football future and he promises a quick turnaround for a program recently mired in mediocrity. Fisher inherits a four-year NCAA probation and a handful of scholarship reductions as a result of an academic cheating scandal. The Seminoles have gone 38-28 over the past five years, including three 7-6 seasons.

Same thing at

Clemson in winning it all or the ACC to beating FSU
or Bama when Saben arrived
or USC still in progress

OK where is the flight aware tracker

Hokies, Local Soccer, AFC Ajax, Ravens

More turtle shit nonsense.

Year 3 is coming up!

RIP Turntle

"What are you going to do, stab me? - Quote from Man Stabbed

Nice, maybe someone who can stop running qb's since that seems to be 99% of modern day college qbs?

I can imagine no more rewarding a career. And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction:
“I served in the United States Navy"

KCCO

Don't buy it for one second. Bud's proven he's not just about the money time after time. I don't really think it's a better situation as far as chances to win go. Also, I don't see Bud and Jimbo working well together.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Bud has turned down better opportunities than that

This is silly

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Yeah if we could stop losing our shit over every "this person told me" rumor that'd be great. I swear to God we are the worst fanbase in the nation for hearing heresay and taking it for all it's worth.

If Bud Foster was a candidate for this job, you would've heard much more than some fan spouting off about it. Fuente is a perfect example of this. His name was mentioned a lot with the FSU job because he was contacted about it. When something like that happens word gets out to *actual* sources. Not message board jockeys who know a guy who has a cousin that works with a booster's spouse.

So please, until someone with actual insider knowledge like Brett McMurphy, FootballScoop, Feldman, etc mentions it then it's best not to get worked up over it and start threads like this.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Breathe...

Wow, I read back through this thread and I didn't see many instances of people "losing their shit" except for this one comment about how "we're the worst fanbase in the nation for hearing heresay and taking it for all it's worth." That came pretty close. But seriously, asking if people have heard rumors about coaches leaving is not losing our shit and doesn't make us the crazy ex-girlfriend. Just like we have to get used to our coaches names coming up in coaching searches, we have to get used to people asking about it.

And for what it's worth, I haven't heard this rumor anywhere else, I'm not worried about Bud leaving, and I hope everyone has a happy holiday, and happy James Mitchell commit day (jinxes aren't real).

I haven't heard this rumor anywhere else

This is exactly why it's not worth starting a topic and discussing who our next DC would be. Thank you for proving my point.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Exactly... This thread exists just to stir the pot and cause a bit of a panic in here. If it's an unsubstantiated rumor, then by posting it in here, it's really just a form of trolling the site.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Yep. I know we talked about starting random topics and stuff and I don't have a problem with that but this just propagates unfounded rumors for no reason whatsoever. If an national insider gets a scoop involving one of our coaches then by all means, lets talk turkey. But going through this shit every time someone hears something on a TexAgs message board will drive us all insane and brings us down to TexAgs level of muppetry.

And this site is way too damn good for us to be like TexAgs, BamaOnline, or VolNation.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

I'm just genuinely curious as to everyone's thoughts on the contingency plan if this were to happen.

At the end of the day, this is a college football message board, right?

My contingency plan is to trust Babcock and Fuente.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Lmao I do too, man. Still doesn't change the fact that it's a point of discussion for the downtime between early signing period and the Hokie Pokie bowl.

I've 40 gallons of water, a case of double A batteries and 200 cans of baked beans.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

I'm just genuinely curious as to everyone's thoughts on the contingency plan if this were to happen.

You know, there are many other ways to get that conversation going that isn't "OMG ____ is going to hire Bud, what are we going to dooooooo!"

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Loooooooolllllll hell yeah. Where is that stupid post where that dude was worried about how Reveille reacted to Jimbo? That will prove my point.

EDIT: I think that was 24/7 looking back. Oh well.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

I swear to God we are the worst fanbase in the nation for hearing heresay and taking it for all it's worth.

Only because you have been posting in the UCL thread will I say this: Clearly you have not visited reddit.com/r/liverpoolfc

One week the emotion is like we are about to be relegated and the next we are the best team in europe. I have grown weary of posting/investing too much in discussion boards. While I want intelligent facts/stat based discussions, it always dissolves into chaos during the off season with speculation and rumors.

I have not. I stick to the clean subs like r/reddevils ;)

But that's kind of how Liverpool is. One day they look like they could beat Barca and Real's combined best 11, the next day they draw West Brom. It's not as bad as previous years though, I will give them credit.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

I check TKP and Liverpool's reddit daily for news but it's just hard to get engaged in too many discussions at the end of the day. Case and point, everyone for Lpool criticizing the refs for giving a late PK to everton who didn't even try to play (and it was a dive for sure, but i get why it was called). Then criticizing the ref for overturning a goal which was escorted in via our players hand. And then criticizing klopp for rotating players when in years past he was criticized for not rotating.

All of that to say--refs, rotated lineup etc, we created plenty of chances and didn't score. It's hard to participate in those kinds of forums when you get down voted for being sensible.

In this case with Foster...what is the contingency? Babcock has shown he knows how to hire well. I trust him. If we are willing to admit it, Foster is approaching the end of his time coaching as well so there could be some merit in being proactive. If Bud wants this, it gives us an opportunity to try and find a young, new DC. That's just glass half full though.

Truthfully I want Bud to stay as long as possible but there is an element of realism that must be considered.

Screw Man U. That is all. ;)

What I've found is that association football has the extremes in everyone. Like, anytime you go to a football post you've got someone with horrible grammar saying "(start footballer here) is #1. Comment and Share if agree" or something like that with broken English. It's very homer-y, if that makes sense and everything is seen through rose colored glasses. So I totally get where you're coming from.

We're all fighting for second though.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Ain't that the truth. It's hard to be even keeled. In sept/oct when Liverpool were dropping points I realized Reddit was borderline causing me to be depressed about football. Then I realized we (were) 4th in the EPL and won our UCL group. How can I be upset about that?

r/gunners is cancerous. Even when we find ourselves in a solid run of games that place is awful. And I will never, ever make the mistake of opening a game thread there again. Pretty sure I've lost brain cells from it.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

Is there a fanbase as conflicted as arsenal's? I stay away from most things Arsenal and just watch as many games as I can and form my own analysis and opinion based on my eyes and the news

Chem PhD '16

I've loved Arsenal for a long time, but that's in spite of the fanbase. I became a fan when they were the most fun team in the world to watch play, and there are still glimpses of that sometimes. But whew boy can the fans be cringey.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

And I will never, ever make the mistake of opening a game thread there again. Pretty sure I've lost brain cells from it.

I love this! When I am at work I tend to open the Reds match thread to try and get a feeling for what is happening. Man you would think that our team forgot which direction the goal was in by the comments of some people. Now I just take to keeping an eye on the score and watching the gif highlights of the goals that are almost instantaneously posted.

Well at least that kind of behavior never happens here. Hell, we'd have people saying Bud is a terrible DC who always allows x archetype of player to beat him and we're just a poorly coached team that can never win games when they count.

Wait....

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Yeah this place gets some of that too. Fortunately it doesn't normally come close to reddit EPL fans.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

This has to be some UVA troll. Dreams don't count as sources btw.

If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous! With treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid...

#Bapn ain't EZ

Wanna win put boobie in! Let boobie spin coach!

First off, I don't for a moment believe that Bud's going to A&M. But, if he left, it seems almost certain that Galen Scott would get the nod. He was Coach Fu's DC at Memphis and is currently Assistant Head Coach in addition to Safeties coach. I don't see Wiles getting the nod for two reasons:
1. Fuente has been working with Galen for a long time and obviously trusts him.
2. If Bud took another job, I'm sure he'd do everything in his power to take Wiles with him. Do you think you're man enough to say no to Bud Foster? Didn't think so.

“You got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

I think we could pull TG from Washington to be a DC. Especially since that entire staff is gonna be fired in 3 weeks

Rip his freaking head off!

In defense of the Skins, defensive coaching hasn't been the issue this year. That's not to say Snyder wouldn't do something stupid like canning the whole staff.

When you can the head coach, you almost always end up canning the whole staff as the new guy wants to bring his guys in.

I think you're right on with Galen. I love what he's done with our safeties and how's he has developed Edmunds.

If this were to happen, the most interesting change would be defensive philosophy. It looks like Memphis ran a 3-4 defense under Fuente and then-DC Barry Odom. Wonder how our personnel would fit in a 3-4 scheme?

Tim Settle would probably be a beast at NT, but I don't know that we have enough LBs to run such a scheme.

“You got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

We have more LBs that could be on the field than defensive lineman at this point

Since we're recruiting Dax and Artis it must mean Fuente knows we're switching to a 3-4 soon. /s

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

Hnohpe

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

Are we seriously going to do this EVERY time a DC spot opens up at an even somewhat decent school? If Bud was going to leave he had his best shot after Frank retired. Not going to happen.

This again???

I'm pretty sure Bud has stated he doesn't want to leave to be a DC at another school. That's a lateral transfer to him.

Every new coach says they are going to hire the best DC. Who wouldn't say that?

If you don't want to recruit clowns, don't run a clown show.

"I want to punch people from UVA right in the neck." - Colin Cowherd

Technically, Fuente didn't say that. He just retained the best DC.

Bud Foster is 58 years old and has been at VT since 1987. Made $950K this year with a SWVA cost of living. Loves jet skiing around his lake house. He's a living legend in the area, not sure how you put a price on that. He isn't leaving for another DC job especially with so much defensive talent potentially returning.

Having these kind of rumors circling around, even with how improbable they are, can be a factor in recruiting around this time of year. Hope Foster is emphatically shooting them down with recruits right now.

Is there even a rumor to shoot down?

If you have a post like this on TKP referencing other message board posts then there is a rumor. Have to remember recruits and their parents are on TKP as well as other sites, message boards, and twitter. Other coaches will as well send out links to those posts and also insinuate to kids that coaches might leave.

If you have a post like this on TKP referencing other message board posts then there is a rumor.

Show me the link where this is being discussed. Show me the chatter where this is making the rounds through football circles.

Literally, all we have right now is this thread. This thread does not a rumor make.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

I've agreed wholeheartedly with everything else you have posted on this thread, but I'm not sure why you're harping on him calling this a rumor. I think the bar on what constitutes a rumor is pretty low. The fact that this post exists, sadly, makes it a rumor. He has a point that a recruit could read this thread and get spooked. Not saying it makes sense, but it's possible. Let's just all agree this post is trash.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

There's a difference between relaying a rumor you're hearing elsewhere, and posting something out of the blue and calling it a rumor. If you want to be taken seriously on here, either have some previously accepted clout (Joe, Skutt, french, LAHokie, BAG all qualify here) or directly reference and link to where you're hearing it. If you can't do that, you and your 'rumor' shouldn't be taken seriously.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

I mean yeah, if you consider posting paywall stuff as #sauces.

s/. Seriously...S/

I absolutely agree. But I would argue there is a difference between whether the TKP community takes something posted here seriously versus whether some random recruit/family member/coach does. Who's to say they don't only read the OP and not all of our responses lambasting the OP for posting something with absolutely no sources?

Edit: Anyone would be crazy to take this OP seriously, but I definitely wouldn't put it past someone.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

And that's why we need to do whatever we can to discourage that kind of baseless rumor mongering to persist. I wish threads where the OP gets to a certain downvote threshold would be labeled as bad. Not only is it a bad look for the site to allow them to continue, but its potentially harmful to the athletic department in the ways you described.

Heck, we had KJ posting threads from here to twitter yesterday, so we know players and recruits read this site.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Hello, Pastor Alum. I'm the choir director.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

sigh

I was agreeing with you and expanding upon your statement. I need to make it more clear when I do that.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

My bad.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

There are many threads on texags.com about Bud but they all follow the same path as this one. Which is no one knows anything and what anyone thinks they know is only from people claiming to have heard rumors which only originated from speculation.

And lots of these .gifs, which I think is great.

11 bonnets on the ball!

Pepe Silvia gifs are #1

Thanks. Read through it and the source is message board speculation.

Pretty much what I figured

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Loves jet skiing around his lake house.

Have to call you on this. Bud does not own a jet ski nor would he interact with those annoying Mo-ski-tos.

Wake surfing is my jam. Go Bud.

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

I'm not worried.. Don't think it's true.

And even if for some reason Foster did bounce, I'm still not worried. #infuenteitrust #inwhititrust

This feels like click bait...

No links/pages/tweets/other sources... Just "seeing rumors that Foster is headed to A&M after the bowl game to be DC with Jimbo."

I feel like if you are going to post something in the nature of this without any kind of substance, it's crap.

Bleeding burnt orange and chicago maroon

Agreed. Hate when people post this stuff with zero evidence and expect people to take their word for it. Can we talk about Buzzketball or something?!

CALIPARI AINT SHIT, FAM #HOKIESBY90

To actually answer the question, if Bud were to leave, I think it's most likely Wiles would go with him. That would leave Galen Scott and Brian Mitchell on the defensive staff. Given that Scott was Fuente's DC at Memphis, I think he's a foregone conclusion.

The interesting twist would be if Wiles didn't follow Foster. Then you'd have a guy thoroughly versed in Foster's scheme vs the head coach's former DC to choose from.

Having said that, I'll believe it when I see it.

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

can we just move this whole thread to the "OT - Airing of Grievances/Random Tangent Thread"

#Bapn ain't EZ

Wanna win put boobie in! Let boobie spin coach!

Hey guys, what's going on in this threa-...

In all seriousness though, I always do find myself getting a bit concerned when unfounded stuff like this pops up; because, as previously mentioned, you know recruits peruse this place as well - it's not fun thinking that the seed of the idea of this occurring gets planted in their heads all because of some random musings.

“Also, a microwave has never danced it's ass off to Jackie Wilson.” - AssPocketFullOWhiskey

This whole thing has made me angry.

This post is shit and the OP is full of shit. Let's fight.

Yes. A trial by combat. I will be your champion.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

well this went pretty much exactly how i would have expected

Saw this thread and wanted to smack someone

Reach for Excellence!

VT Football: It'll get after ya!

Proud Hokie since 2004.

If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous! With treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid...

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Epic movie. Leg

You will see this game, this upset and this sign next on ESPN Sportscenter. Virginia Tech 31 Miami 7

You know, there are deeply seated undercover trolls over there at the Sabre too...

recommendation:

via GIPHY

.

.

#extendbronco

This dude has to be a troll.... no way this is a serious discussion.

He's Still Open!!!

Dude, your last comments before this thread were two years ago. Now all of a sudden you post this and refuse to provide any info outside of your gut feeling. GTFO! You're either crazy or your account got hacked by a troll.

This is a shit post and should be removed.

As time goes on, I think this is a troll from the Sabre or UVA in general. The first red flag is the generic, impersonal, VT-centric screen name.

Not a UVA troll based on Twitter "research." Possibly just a troll.

A troll is a troll
And a roll is a roll
And if we don't fight no trolls
Then we don't eat no rolls.

I think that's how that goes.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Chill out bro, it was obviously his brother who hacked his account.

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

Can someone just go check on Bud's Christmas tree so we can put this thread out of its misery?

11 bonnets on the ball!

Only coach we need to be worried about leaving anytime soon is Buzz.

I can tell you this is not only possible....it's happening.

Obvious troll is obvious

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

^^ This should be bannable.

And when it's announced what then?

You'll start hearing leaks in the coming week with a formal annoucmemt made after VTs bowl. It's done.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Meh, three legs from a leg ban. It will take care of itself.

Warning: this post occasionally contains strong language (which may be unsuitable for children), unusual humor (which may be unsuitable for adults), and advanced mathematics (which may be unsuitable for liberal-arts majors)..

Meanwhile, this looks like a complete troll post.

Opening an account and then leaving it for 3 years just for this is...weird?

I'm old and I find the internet to be a scary place overall. Is this a thing that people do? Seriously, 3 fucking years. At what point does a person decide "self: it's been long enough, time to blow the swag screen name on TKP". I seriously cannot understand it. I mean, how does a person even remember a password 3 years later? Just absurd.

Old sigline: I've been cutting back on the drinking.

New Sigline: lol it's football season.

I'm a lurker, mostly. My gifs aren't as good as y'all's, and I've had little time to get involved with the message boards since graduating from VT with work and whatnot.

I was a little drunk and worried my boy Foster was leaving. This post is kind of like that booty call text you send at 2 am that you regret in the morning.

You I totally understand. I've tried to cut back on my drunk TKPing because I wake up in the morning and have this fear that I said something dumb the night before. While I think your comments were borderline, my comment was really directed at M.C. Swag, who's done nothing here in 3 years except jump on this thing twice. I just don't get that.

Also, props for showing your face despite the downvotes. I certainly wouldn't have.

Old sigline: I've been cutting back on the drinking.

New Sigline: lol it's football season.

I was a little drunk

Oh no? You were drunk and posting here.?

Year 3 is coming up!

Who does that? Smh.

My brother.

Swag....Vince Swag..

Year 3 is coming up!

BREAKING ON TKP. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST

If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous! With treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid...

This thread is still going? Yawn.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

Hey did anything happen here or can I just go back to my drinks?

If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous! With treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid...

Can confirm coach Fuente and Foster are both leaving for Texas A and M. You heard it here first.

There are wolves and there are sheep, I am the sheep dog

Hearing from sources that A&M is planning to buy Virginia Tech in it's entirety following the bowl. Will update with more unsubstantiated bullshit info as I make it up hear more.

No I think they are just declaring war on our corps of cadets.

Corps

Corpse

Hey now, we're not on ESPNU here.

It will be a bloody battle but due to superior training and resources VT will be victorious!

Year 3 is coming up!

Guys I have an inside source from one of my best buds from work who is an A&M alum and he has no idea about this rumor.

So he has the same information as anyone else?

If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous! With treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid...

Watch out everyone I hear the A&M corps is trying to force the VT corps to defect to College Station. It's pretty much a done deal

Chem PhD '16

I think the recent trend of downvotes is trash. Two people who have been members of the site for years are getting downvotes Into oblivion for their unpopular opinions on a topic. Call them out, debate them call them idiots ignore them. But the recent amount of downvotes happening to lots of posters across lots of threads is disconcerting and disappointing.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

Join us in the Key Players Club

The stuff being downvoted here is unsubstantiated spam, it's not "opinion." The community is clearly saying that posting this kind of stuff is not welcome unless anyone can back up their statements.

Tenure on the site is not relevant, either. People who have been members for years can still break rules.

Do we ask LA for his sources? Did my post that Savoy would be out for LOLUVA without linkable
Sources violate those rules? I again think downvoting has become the de facto go to for people unwilling or unable to write a post of their own. Just look at all the posts of Alum and a few others that have been getting hit with a downvote almost every thread that's debatable topic. People are abusing the downvote and in this thread it's going to cost someone the ability to post.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

Join us in the Key Players Club

I feel like Alum's post above answers those questions.

There's a difference between relaying a rumor you're hearing elsewhere, and posting something out of the blue and calling it a rumor. If you want to be taken seriously on here, either have some previously accepted clout (Joe, Skutt, french, LAHokie, BAG all qualify here) or directly reference and link to where you're hearing it. If you can't do that, you and your 'rumor' shouldn't be taken seriously.

And if we had treated their first "sauce post" like we are treating these where would they be? Outside looking in.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

Join us in the Key Players Club

No one has put even a #sauce post in this thread. WeAreVT started posting a bunch of rumors of rumors, with absolutely nothing to back them up. We engaged him. Multiple people, multiple times asked for something to back up his statement. Heck, you can see where I called him out asking for links, and his only response was that something might happen that day. Well, it's the next day and nothing happened, so he obviously doesn't have any credibility.

People are abusing the downvote and in this thread it's going to cost someone the ability to post

The only person who has lost the ability to post is MC Swag. And again, registered three years, and the only two posts made were in this thread. Not really feeling sorry for that one. WeAreVT is still over 1000 legs.

And every sauce post on here from Joe's, to LA to bag to Jugs to anyone else is all subject to the same standard. When A&M hires another person as DC, which I think they will, and Bud is still here call out there shit. But the minute this topic went up it started getting downvotes before anyone asked for sources or anything. Instant downvotes because of the topic NOT because of the lack of sources.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

Join us in the Key Players Club

Forum posts are supposed to be designed to stimulate discussion or share real news. The original post was neither. "Hey guys, heard a rumor..." with no additional context is spam. If, in the course of discussion, something could be added to the thread, it should have been. The subsequent "justification" has been "trust me, I'm hearing it" from someone with no demonstrated credibility. It's noise.

If we're wrong and Bud jumps ship, I'll eat crow with everyone else and will go so far as to upvote every post from WeAreVT to offset the downvotes received.

You are defending free speech about a guy who yelled "Fire" in a movie theater.

members of the site for years

WeAreVT - while a member since 2011, has not posted anything on this board outside of this topic in 2 years.

MC Swag - member since 2014, never posted until this topic.

Nah screw that. I downvoted every one of those trash comments because they were trolling the site. The only purpose of those comments was to stir up controversy in a subject they knew gets this place riled up. At first I was content with just calling them garbage, but downvoted when they piled on the trolling with "trust me, it's happening, durrr" when asked to back up their claims.

That kind of bullshit serves no purpose on here. Even worse, this is the bullshit that can torpedo recruiting efforts at the last minute. We know recruits read this forum. We know recruits post articles from here to social media. We don't need bullshit muddying the recruiting waters with unsubstantiated shit. KJ declares in 4 days, and now this kind of bullshit means that our coaches now have to reassure players of their intentions rather than focusing on closing deals and getting the team prepared for OkieSt.

So no, screw that, each and every one of those comments deserves the down voting. And even if Bud does end up leaving, this was still garbage and still deserves to be made an example of. Either come with a source or don't come at all.

And as for the questions about our actual trusted insiders, they gained the ability to post #sauces because they have been proven to be consistently accurate over time. They earned that reputation. If you haven't earned it, you need to come with more than "seriously, trust me, I know things".

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

So you're gonna sit there and act like you wouldn't downvote me if I said Rich Rod was coming to replace Fu with the CEO of Chipotle as his DC and that he was arriving by paper airplane but didn't have any sources to back it up? I think you would!

"It's a miracle in Blacksburg, TYROD DID IT MIKEY, TYROD DID IT!"

Nope, I'd call you out on it. But to me a downvote is reserved for things that attack people, break the rules on politics, bring up a topic like racism etc. I'm sure in anger especially on a Gameday thread I've downvoted a comment I shouldn't have, but those are the rules I try and follow.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

Join us in the Key Players Club

I agree with you, but I would add in exactly what WeAreVT did: making a claim out of nowhere with nothing to back it up. To boot, the claim is most certainly going to ruffle some feathers, and with nothing to back up his claim he's just trying to poke the bear.

I don't think any of us on this site want it to get to the point where everyone and his drunk brother come and make claims with zero backing. Like VTGM said above, if this turns out to be true, I will gladly post an apology and help to offset downvotes, but until then, nip it in the bud.

"It's a miracle in Blacksburg, TYROD DID IT MIKEY, TYROD DID IT!"

Completely agree here with Fireman. I reserve a downvote for those who violate the community guidelines. If a thread is useless, which this one definitely is, refrain from adding to the discussion and continue discussing relevant and meaningful forum topics.

Exit Light, Enter Night....Go Hokies

Pointless, unsourced spam is, in fact a violation of the Community Guidelines.

Before you post and contribute to the community, ask yourself, "Does it make TKP better?" If you answer 'no', stop what you are doing
...
Don't post threads with the sole purpose of riling people up.
...
Respect the signal to noise ratio. In other words, don't post or comment or topic for the sake of it. Don't post comments that require further (missing) explanation. You don't have to be an essayist, but a few well-thought out sentences generally contributes to the discussion better. If you're referencing a Tweet, article or YouTube video, link or embed it. Ensure your comment is thorough to the point where everyone else contributing to the thread understands it. Don't deal in riddles or mystery.

The community at large is free to enforce these rules as they see fit (and indeed I choose to reserve my extra-powerful condemnation for really bad stuff), but posts like these can be viewed as a violation.

I agree. While the comments may be a troll job or have no #sauce to back up the posts, I think a discussion was attempted. Call people out on it, debate it, make fun of it, but let's reserve down votes for something more worthwhile.

I find it difficult to consider swag a 'member' for 3 years when literally the only three things that I can confirm he's done on this website are: 1. register in 2014. 2. and 3. post utterly unsubstantiated and intentionally panic inducing troll comments.

(btw, I would put you in the category of posters who I believe without sources. That's from spending time here and seeing that you have credible, intelligent, sourced (or #sauced) information. I've never seen swag before, so he doesn't have the history with me. When I check his profile, he has essentially no history, and I think the torrent of downvotes he received reflects the communities displeasure with that)

WeAre I feel worse for, but he'll recover and learn to find sources for his information before he posts stuff that puts everyone on heart medication.

Old sigline: I've been cutting back on the drinking.

New Sigline: lol it's football season.

O look my point is being made for me. Instead of someone writing a post they are instead stealth downvoting. Only thing is it won't effect my ability to post, it will effect others and that's what I worry about. Turning away voices because we don't like what they have to say.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

Join us in the Key Players Club

People are posting their displeasure in explicit terms. Downvoting is implemented for this purpose, when discourse is derailed by people continually posting nonsense.

Not a hill worth dying on, my friend.

I legged you to offset the down vote

1-0 every week

I appreciate it but not a big deal for me. Just hope it won't open you up for downvotes of the stealth folks.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

Join us in the Key Players Club

hahahahahahahahaha wait a downvote is not a big deal for you but downvotes are exactly why you're making this whole argument

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

Because downvotes are not going to impact my a ability to post but it will effect people who are new to posting because they have fewer legs to lose. Try and keep up. Also upvoted you to keep you from going negative.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

Join us in the Key Players Club

I agree with your premise that downvotes tend to snowball into huge numbers very quickly these days, and that it is something to be concerned and aware of. I do not necessarily think that is the case here though. When someone posts a reason to down vote, and I agree with it, I will tend to up vote the reason to DV without actually doing it If it was not blatantly across the line. But when someone doubles down instead of apologizing or editing when it is obvious most think they are outside the guidelines, they are just asking for it. If they later sober up or calm down and edit their comments, I'll reset my vote. I do not want anyone's opinion banned just because it is wrong, but when done right, as it usually has been in the past, the self policing is a big part of what makes TKP TKP.

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

How do you know they didn't write a post?

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Y'all can downvote me, but I'm about to speak the dam truff. I couldn't give a lickidy split shit what my turkey leg count is.

If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous! With treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid...

Unless you were downvotes so far you couldn't post anymore.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

Join us in the Key Players Club

Yes but I am never going to start a topic saying "Hey y'all I heard all this stuff about this thing. What should we do about it?" and then not back it up with anything to support myself.

This could have been an actual discussion if it were "Who would we want as our DC if Bud left us?" Or if there was just one source to back it all up.

If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous! With treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid...

This is a real danger. That's why I am afraid to post these days.../s

Warning: this post occasionally contains strong language (which may be unsuitable for children), unusual humor (which may be unsuitable for adults), and advanced mathematics (which may be unsuitable for liberal-arts majors)..

I couldn't give a lickidy split shit what my turkey leg count is.

Unless you were downvotes so far you couldn't post anymore.

Actually, I would take that as a sign that my input was not wanted. I would then have the option of simply lurking or going away completely.

.

.

#extendbronco

Which to me is the wrong thing we want to happen.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

Join us in the Key Players Club

Or just don't post bullshit

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

His name has popped up on aggieyell.com apparently, and they referenced how 3 years ago, heading to A&M was the closets he had come to leaving VT. Granted, he noted at that time he liked the offensive coaching, which he may feel he has now.

So while everyone downvoted this dude, and he didn't help his cause, doing a quick google search (I'm stopping at this and not digger deeper) does show some murmur out there.

No, there's not. I did the Google search, and most of it was rehashing 2014 or 2015, or message board chatter on the Aggie side.

Even the article you posted isn't even "evidence". It's speculating that top DCs could be head coaches soon, which just means that the writer follows college football.

The source is literally message board speculation. That is not a quality source in the slightest.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Do we not do our own message board speculation. Some of which ends up being true?

Sure but at least then there is the context that it is pure speculation. This OP and follow up comments had zero context while at the same time passing that speculation of as iron clad fact. At best, it was disingenuous, but more realistically they were doing nothing but intentionally misleading us to stir up a Bud is leaving shitstorm that would linger for weeks.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Call me paranoid and someone who cares about my integrity.. I almost posted some legit info the other day but decided not to and modified my comment to "NM" ... mainly because of who my source is. I wouldn't want it to come back on him. Sometimes not saying anything is the better way to go, whether you have legit info or not. Truth will always come out.

So in conclusion, does this need another Onion article? I already did one of those on this topic.

Would a Mad Lib be better here?

I vote Mad Lib

This may be happening fellas. An Aggies fan with twelve followers said so on Twitter. He's also going to Tennessee and Oregon apparently.

"I'll put a quote here to distract you from my inane comment."-Me

Seriously, why would you want to start some bullshit like this right before early signing period? I think WeareVT is a miserable UVA fan trolling the site. I don't make it a habit of genuinely disliking a person without really knowing them but you sir managed to get me to that point with this BULLSHIT!

It is a natural gift I posess to create friction in sensitive situations.

Maybe we need a mechanism other than turkey legs. How about an eject button at the top of each thread. If 100 people push the button the thread is frozen. It will soon slide off the active thread list into obscurity.

.

.

#extendbronco

Thing is, the top post is sitting at -53.

There may be people who don't want to downvote the person, but would punt the thread.

.

.

#extendbronco

Is there something automatic the system does when the topic score gets really negative? I have refrained from voting one way or the other. It seems when the overall topic gets to -X maybe the thread should just disappear as it would seem it has lost its value to the community.

We have one of, if not, the best DC in CFB. EVERY TIME a high profile DC position comes available, everyone has the right to be concerned.

Foster gave decades of his life to VT and was passed over for the HC position (and all the prestige and $$ that comes with it). Anyone who thinks this isn't a factor and believes every sound byte you hear from him is DELUSIONAL.

I don't believe BF is bitter, but I don't think he has this undying loyalty to VT that everyone seems to think. CFB programs that win the big games see their Coordinators leave for HC positions at P5 programs. VT is not yet winning the big games and I think TAMU would put him in a positive situation to do that (in terms of resources and $EC game opportunities).

That being said, I don't think he'll bolt and I really hope he doesn't.

When do we name a street after Foster? Of put in an statue of him destroying the UVA offense?

Never crimp your blasting caps with your teeth. - Dr Haycocks

Its always 110 Holden...said every mining engineer ever.

In my Theory of Organization class I once responded to Dr Torgersen's question: 'What would you do to improve the university' question with the answer, 'Change the name of the road the stadium is on to Stadium Lane'. He chuckled

I heard Foster IS leaving.....for ice cream around 3:30p. No confirmed sauces though. Just rumor. Take it for what it's worth.

No confirmed sauces though

I bet he's debating between hot fudge and strawberry.

I don't know that you rationally bet on the sauce preferences for some,wine who prefers cake. They might easily like marinara or alfredo on their ice cream, since there is no pie to match it with.

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

You have to be in the running in order to be out of running. Folks got to stop repeating rumors they hear on message boards. There is no backing for right now other then a few AM fans on their message board and some Hokies fans bring up on their message boards. I am assuming you got this from tech sideline or 247.

Just confirmed by Billy Liucci of TexAgs that Foster is out of the running for the A&M job. Sorry to ruin everyone's Christmas with my rumors post.

Downvotes deserved. Dilly, dilly.

pit of misery?

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous! With treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid...

#Bapn ain't EZ

Wanna win put boobie in! Let boobie spin coach!

Dude again posting stuff that you hear off message boards. Show one credible link that first he was considering it, or even if an offer was on the table. And....... now for this new source you have that hes out of running. Come dude. only post if you have material.. Not hearsay

Rumors are, by definition, unconfirmed reports. I was seeing smoke on Reddit CFB, TexAgs and a couple of other places. The only reason I posted this in the first place was that A&M seemed like the only job he'd actually make a lateral move to (as he almost left two years ago).

And with his VT head coaching aspirations out the window, along with Beams' retirement and A&M's open checkbook to make him one of the top three paid assistant coaches in the nation, I just figured there was some fuel to the rumor. Just posted this here to ease my worries, and you guys eased them x however many downvotes I have here.

Come on man, as college football fans we're inherently a volatile bunch. We live and die on the decisions of 18-21 year old kids.

I was seeing smoke on Reddit CFB, TexAgs and a couple of other places.

I think it was more people rubbing two sticks together trying to make fire.

Next time, post links so everyone has a chance to read the same material. Probably would have had a better chance to call out the bullshit without the downvotes.

Just confirmed by Billy Liucci of TexAgs that Foster is out of the running for the A&M job

Because he was never even entertaining that idea.

I'm giving you a leg for sacking up and owning it.

Honestly, you earned the +1 for coming back and updating the original post. I'm glad the downvotes did not run you off.

Silver lining: at least TKP is famous on TexAgs.com now.

Do you actually have access to the premium part of TexAgs, or are you getting all of this from the crumbs that spill out into the free section?

Crumbs in free section + Reddit.

After experiencing the batshit insanity that resides behind the paywall on vtscoop.com, I will never pay for a CFB message board again.

+ Reddit

I think I found your problem.

Haters gonna hate, potatoes gonna potate, and hetzers gonna hetz

Naw man. Reddit CFB is the greatest college football community on the internet.

I kind of want to throw an ESPN Monday night "C'mon man!" at you.

In the free section, you have the people tossing out little bits from the premium section but not wanting to violate the sanctity of the paywall, the non-premium members (or those who haven't read everything) playing catch up, and then of course the usual references that no one outside of the regular members would pick up on. It's a nasty mosh pit that is impossible to pull any good sources out of.

Lesson learned, that's for sure.

Of course I say that but then I'm going to go read recruiting rumors and the self-perpetuating cycle of fear, excitement, and hysteria begins to churn again.

After experiencing the batshit insanity that resides behind the paywall on vtscoop.com

They are batshit crazy on your scale? Do you also think they are idiots?

.

.

#extendbronco

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

To be fair, I freaked out over the first Foster/A&M situation - and Billy Luicci seems to be their inside guy on the matter of recruiting and other A&M things. This is more than a random message board person.

It's a weird culture over there, where Luicci would often say cryptic things (I think he is on the radio frequently) and then everyone would freak out trying to figure it out. Reminds me of WVU boards back in the day when a guy named (ironically) LonghornWVU and others would write cryptic poems to try and make it seem like they knew who they were hiring after RR. Which obviously they had no one worth a damn since they hired Bill Stewart (who turned out to be a pretty good HC for them).

Not sure if you go on VTScoop, but there's a guy named Willard who frequently drops in with some sort of whimsical Irish rambling that seems to turn out true every time. Though it's infuriating, it adds a little intrigue to the rumors, I guess.

Foster turned down the job after he heard they have a 12th man.

He figured it would be too unfair, so he'll stay here and dominate with 11 to keep it closer to fair.

The Dude Abides

so while were on here not discussing bud foster leaving. I talked to some of my buddies who are big Oregon fans and they think FSU got a "snake" in willie taggert. from what they say it is most Oregon fans belief that taggert was hired for his staff more than his actual self and the staff has now resigned with Oregon FSU is stuck looking for a OC and DC.

#Bapn ain't EZ

Wanna win put boobie in! Let boobie spin coach!

I think A&M made the biggest coaching hire mistake (and that includes Tenneessee) in hiring Jimbo Fisher. He won a natty on the coat tails of Jameis Winston, what else is he known for? This year, I'm amazed at how much the team as a whole regressed without Francois. They had all the makings of the best defense in the country, and they could barely make a bowl game this year.

Dude just straight up ditched his team like he owed them nothing. Compare his departure to that of Scott Frost from UCF, who's continuing to coach his team through the bowl.

Reminds me in many ways of Gene Chizik at Auburn.

I have to agree with that. I don't think jimbo is to much of a coach seems like a lot of people expect a turn around at A&M im not on that boat. but I don't think FSU is going to right the ship either under taggert. I actually think Tenn made out pretty well in their coaching hiring especially considering the shhh storm it was.

#Bapn ain't EZ

Wanna win put boobie in! Let boobie spin coach!

if the staff resigned why didn't Taggart bring any of them to FSU?

re-signed

#Bapn ain't EZ

Wanna win put boobie in! Let boobie spin coach!

Amazing performance on this thread by MC Swag BTW. He waited three years for his chance, and with just two comments managed to climb all the way to #4 on the negative legs board.

Consider this a formal request to Joe to memorialize his profile page with blue and orange plaid. Amazing feats like this should not go unrecognized.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

What I'm most impressed about at the bottom of the turkey leg board is that socalbuck2014 achieved the bottom spot solely on the strength of the -165 legs on his final post. The other -39 from his other posts are just gravy.

That one should probably go blue and yellow plaid.

I just went and found his post and downvoted it for good measure.

Down (or up) to #3 now!

Well this thread just got proven to be full of shit

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

If Tim Settle goes undrafted he is going to take this job.

FIRST DOWN, HOKIES!

Soooo M C Swag, I guess you were right! /s

Mike Elko is one hell of a coach.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN