Buzzketball Central: January/February Recruiting

On the heels of their big win over the Waaaa -Hoos last night, the Hokies offered Four Star Combo Guard Duane Cohill from Holy Name in Cleveland, Ohio. Cohill is 6'3, 170 lbs and currently the 55th ranked player in the Class of 2018. He currently holds 15 offers and was given his Tech offer on an unofficial visit yesterday. 247 currently show him as an Ohio State lean.

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Other February Offers:

Noah Farrakhan, Class of 2020, PG, 6'1, 160 Lbs, St Benedict Prep, Newark, NJ. 247 has not ranked 2020 class yet. Has 8 offers, no lean.

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Matt Cotton, Class of 2018, SG, 6'5, 180 Lbs, St Benedict Prep, Newark, NJ. 247Sports does not have a ranking on him. He has nine offers, no lean.

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Musa Aziz Jallow, Class of 2018, 6'5, 200 Lbs, Bloomington North, Bloomington, Indiana, 247 Comp 142nd, 247Sports 57th, Has 10 offers, considered an Indiana lean

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Other offers that went out in January are
Montez Mathis, Class of 2018, SG, 6'4, 190 lbs, John Carroll School, Essex, MD 247Sports Comp 149th, 247Sports 66th, he may be headed to Oak Hill Academy for his senior year. Has seven offers, no prediction other than Warm towards Rutgers

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Jeremiah Francis, Class of 2019, PG, 6'3, 190 Lbs Pickerington Central, Pickerington, Ohio, 247 Comp 126th, 247Sports 81st Has six offers, thought to be an Ohio State lean

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Jerome Hunter, Class of 2018, SF, 6'5, 185 Lbs, Pickerington North, Pickerington, Ohio, 247 Comp 104th, 247Sports 119th Has 10 offers, another thought to be an Ohio State lean.

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Are we done for 2017?

I think we're full up this year with the commitment of PJ Horne a week or so ago.

I found TKP after two rails from TOTS then walking back to my apartment and re-watching the 2012 Sugar Bowl. I woke up the next day with this username.

Barring anyone else leaving the program than we are done with the signing for 2017.

2017-18 scholarships:

  1. Alexander-Walker (FR)
  2. Bede (FR)
  3. Horne (FR)
  4. Sy (SO)
  5. Jackson (rFR)
  6. Blackshear (rSO)
  7. Robinson (JR)
  8. Clarke (JR) (RS)
  9. Hill (rJR)
  10. Leday, S (rJR)
  11. Bibbs (SR)
  12. Outlaw (rSR)
  13. Hamilton (rSR)

Others:

  1. Wilson (rSR) (preseason grad xfer?)
  2. Fullard (rJR) (walkon)

Hamilton is a senior this season so unless they get him a medical redshirt, he shouldnt be holding a scholarship. The 13th would be if Wilson stays.

It sounded like from Buzz's LOLuva post game interview that Wilson would stay and come back next year. I'd imagine him filling the void after Seth leaves.

Um Devin Wilson =/= Seth Allen.

Devin Wilson has ZERO offensive game but does provide a decent defensive presence.

Seth Allen has INFINITY times more offensive game but doesn't have a consistent defensive presence.

If anything Nickeil Alexander-Walker will be filling the Seth Allen role more than anyone else currently on our roster IMO.

Also FWIW I hope Devin moves on as a grad transfer after this season allows us another 'ship and allows him to get into a law school of his preference.

As long as he makes the football team again, (does anyone know if he plans to do that again?) his scholly will count against football instead of basketball, as it did this year.

“You got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

He won't. He walked as a senior on senior day.

"Facyson is a baller."
-CFB

I read that he is not playing football again this year. At this point he'd be even further down the WR depth chart than he is the basketball depth chart.

Yeah, I don't know why Wilson would get a scholarship over Hamilton. He (Wilson) has graduated and would be like #7 or #8 in the backcourt depth. Hamilton isn't amazing but provides depth a much more questionable position. Blackshear is a big question mark coming off injury. Sy has a lot of developing to do. Seth Leday is unproven and undersized, as is the freshman forward.

I figured pursuing the hardship waiver / medical redshirt for Hamilton would be automatic.

Buzz had shut down Hamilton's minutes before he got hurt this year. I'm not sure he's a ACC caliber basketball player.

Wilson has been and can be an important piece to this team. His offensive game is limited, but he can distribute and is a calming presence on the court. His defense is much better than decent. He's like a total opposite of Allen.

He's not going to fill Allen's offensive shoes, but if he fills some of his minutes, he can provide the things that Allen didn't do well and maybe get a similar return. I hope he's on the team next year.

People seem to forget is was on the All-ACC freshmen team. He didn't have an outside shot, but at times he still was decent at attacking the basket and distributing the ball. Doesn't he have the VT freshman assists in a game record.

"Facyson is a baller."
-CFB

I agree with this analysis.

I'll also add that Buzz has shown that he values and puts great emphasis on qualities beyond basketball skill. It seems pretty clear that he values Wilson not only as a basketball player, but as a person too. Coach talks a lot about how his primary goal is not just to mold great basketball players, but human beings.

I think people tend to overlook how telling it is that Devin Wilson is the only remaining holdover from the previous regime. I imagine Buzz greatly appreciates that, as it showed his commitment and willingness to adapt to Buzz's message when the others in his class decided to leave.

The way I've interpreted his comments about Wilson, Devin has a spot on this team as long as he wants it (and his eligibility allows).

Yeah, that makes sense. He's always been a contributor and a team-first guy willing to work hard and do the dirty work even if his minutes and stats have declined.

Meanwhile Hamilton has been pretty limited even when healthy. cds7c makes a good point up the thread about Hamilton's minutes being minimized this season even when healthy. With Blackshear back next year and a FR forward there's a pretty good chance he would get no minutes.

I think you guys are right and Wilson gets that last roster spot. I just don't see either of them playing much next year, and I'd rather have an insurance policy that is 7'0" rather than 6'3". Gotta keep reminding myself Buzz doesn't care about that angle.

There is a chance Wilson will transfer with Buzzs support and we add a transfer who redshirts into that slot. The transfer recruiting market of April and May can be fruitful.

This is much more of what I should have said. Yes, Wilson will not put the team on his back offensively, but he helps out with defense and ball handling. I just remember the Delaney and Green teams where we legit had only one player that could bring the ball up court against the press.

If anything Nickeil Alexander-Walker will be filling the Seth Allen role more than anyone else currently on our roster IMO.

I'm seeing Bede or maybe Pig Jackson also filling the Seth role. Those guys are quick, strong and very athletic and Jackson can stroke it from the outside. Jackson is a ridiculous athlete... get to a game early and watch some of the dunks he throws down in warm ups. Crazy for a guy 6-1

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

I said in another thread a dunk contest on our team would end up between Chris Clarke and Jackson. Their pregame jams are insane.

"Facyson is a baller."
-CFB

We need those dudes making football graphics for the croots to make some for roundball

Makes me a bit sad that all the big guys in the back row of that picture are not playing for the Hokies this year.

Is it football season yet?

Here one:

2019 committ BJ Mack is now 6-8 260 as a 16 year old. If this is not a Buzz OKG I don't know who is. Chip on his shoulder, worker... Could get here as a big time 6-9, 6-10 beast.

"He's never been a guy to run with the front-runners," said Mack's father, Brian, who played on the Garinger High team that won a 4A state championship in 1989. "He's always been the underdog. People talked about him some growing up, but I always told him, 'We're building you for the long term, to be a big man later on.'

"We weren't worried about weight and speed at 10 or 11 years old because his body wasn't mature. But that footwork we implemented back then? It's starting to show now."

For such a large player, Mack handles and shoots a basketball as well as many high school guards. Coaches compare his reliable hands to those of North Carolina big man Kennedy Meeks, when Meeks was in high school at crosstown West Charlotte High.

"Man, he's big. He's athletic," Christian football coach Jason Estep said of Mack. "He's got such soft hands for such a big guy. I wish he played football."

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/high-school/article126238144.html

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

Wow, great article. Looking forward to seeing this kid in Maroon & Orange.


He's right! Need another big guy with paint presence. Love the article!

"Stick it in, stick it in, stick it in!" - William Addison Caldwell, 1872

2019 PF Makhi Mitchell of Bishop McNamara in DC; 6-9 230

http://247sports.com/Player/Makhi-Mitchell-88154

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

Makhi Mitchell has a twin brother, Makhel. They are thought to be a combo deal. Buzz sent offers to both back in April 2016 but most people have them pegged to go to Maryland when its all said and done.

Makhi is the more talented of the two but 247Sports have both inside their top 100 for the Class of 2019

http://247sports.com/player/makhel-mitchell-45572933

These guys would be epic matched up with the twin point guards we have committed for 2019.

Oh man. not UMD and the Turg. Geez.

Edit- 247 not listing as offered by UMD? Maybe a advantage for us?

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

Buzz certainly doesn't fear UMD and Turg, NAW was a supposed Maryland lean until he visited VT and Buzz got him to commit a few days later.

In Sam Rogers we trust.

I mean you're right he was a UMD lean but having Jamie McNeily on our staff is what got Nickeil to commit.

My understanding is that these two have made something in the neighborhood of 12 unofficial visits to Maryland. Maybe Turgeon is waiting to see how his class fleshes out for that season before offering, not sure.

So the '19 class could have the Langley twins and the Mitchell twins? That would be interesting.

It would be impossible to tell who is on the court at any given moment except for jersey numbers. Since 2 are PG and 2 are forwards I'm assuming they would mix/match without 2 of either playing together at the same time.

Like the Hebner referees from WWF.

That would be two sets of highly ranked twins for the 2019 class. I feel like Buzz should get a real life achievement award for that.

I found TKP after two rails from TOTS then walking back to my apartment and re-watching the 2012 Sugar Bowl. I woke up the next day with this username.

Recruiting a lot against Ohio State, which is interesting. Is Thad Matta's seat warm yet? He's been doing less with more for a while now. Check out this win trajectory:

09-10: 29
10-11: 34
11-12: 31
12-13: 29
13-14: 25
14-15: 24
15-16: 21
16-17: 15 currently.....maybe 20-22 with an NIT run

13 seasons at Ohio State, ineligible for post season one year, 9 NCAA's, highlighted with one Final Four (11-12) and a great 8 the next year.

The rumor is if Matta doesn't turn things around next season, he will be out and they'll go all-in on Archie Miller (Dayton HC).

Not only did Ohio State get passed over by the NIT but apparently their agreement with the NIT prevented them from participating in the CBI or CIT.

Ohio State signed a non-binding agreement in January to take part in the NIT if invited, according to Adam Jardy of the Columbus Dispatch. Under that agreement, Ohio State could still reject an NIT bid if invited, but cannot play in other postseason tournaments such as the CIT or the CBI. A team that signs a non-binding NIT agreement can still play in the NCAA Tournament if selected.

First time since 2005 that OSU isnt in the post season.

Matta got dealt another blow last week as well and this one by a former Hokie. Trevor Thompson announced he is leaving for the NBA. I was surprised to see his final stats for the season. He averaged almost a double-double for Ohio State with 10.6 PPG, 9.2 RPG and 1.5 BPG in just 23 minutes on the floor.

Thompson- Dude is talented.

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

And incredibly nice. Would talk to or say hey to anyone on his way to class. One of my favorite (former) VT basketball players.

Was disappointed to see Thompson go, always liked him

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Nowhere close to being confirmed, but I've got #Sauce that Sy is considering transferring.

That could be worse news than dealing with Clarke sitting out a season.

I'm going to pretend you didn't say that.

I found TKP after two rails from TOTS then walking back to my apartment and re-watching the 2012 Sugar Bowl. I woke up the next day with this username.

Sy isn't that great of a fit for us, style wise. He's going to develop into a pretty good center I think, but Buzz doesn't really use centers. Blackshear is great for us because he provides height and can stretch the floor. We need more in the like of him, instead of traditional centers like Sy. This isn't to bash Sy, because he is going to be a good player, and hopefully it'll continue being for the good guys because he's still young, but until he develops an outside shot, he isn't more than a role player for us unfortunately on most nights. And it's a role that dwindles later in the games when we go smaller and smaller.

If he could develop into something like what we saw from Jeter from the outside last night, I think he'd be an All-ACC caliber big with Buzz. Otherwise, I think it's a round peg in a square hole.

Always choose joy.

I completely disagree about Sy needing an outside shot to be effective in Buzz's system. The impression I get is that Buzz's ideal scenario on offense is to play 4-out with a bigger body to do occasional damage in the paint and get a few offensive rebounds. Think Villanova last year. That's what I believe Buzz is aiming to emulate.

You're going to need guys willing to set screens in this type of system, and Sy actually does that pretty effectively. One of the things that is glaringly missing from VT's offense is that a screen very rarely leads to a rim run - Sy tries to do it, but a combination of sometimes shaky hands and an inability of smaller guards to pass effectively over the top of a defense leads to minimal points in those situations.

I think people have over-estimated how Buzz wants to play because of Zach LeDay's game. I think it's a misnomer to say that Buzz wants every guy on the floor to be able to pass, dribble, shoot, since we were already playing heavy minutes with lineups that included a non-shooter in Clarke, and LeDay's shot has badly regressed from last year to the point where he's defended as a non-shooter now.

LeDay is effective at putting the ball on the floor when he needs to and he's crafty in the post, but I don't think that's how Buzz envisions things going forward. This year's team isn't what it should have been, and many of the things we're seeing are stopgap measures due to injuries.

If this team is fully healthy I think you would have seen a version of 4-out basketball on offense, but with Clarke often as a primary ball-handler, three shooters on the perimeter, and Blackshear operating as the screener who can play pick-and-pop or roll to the rim.

Just because that's what it could be with this personnel, I don't think that's always going to be the case. Clarke is a special player in many ways, and there's not going to be a ton of guys like him in the college game. You're going to have much more success finding & recruiting guards/wings who can shoot at a decent clip and finding a couple big guys to rotate in than relying on having point forward types like Clarke. That's just my opinion looking at the college basketball landscape as the game has shifted in recent years.

If this team is fully healthy I think you would have seen a version of 4-out basketball on offense, but with Clarke often as a primary ball-handler, three shooters on the perimeter, and Blackshear operating as the screener who can play pick-and-pop or roll to the rim.

I think you just made my point. The ideal big man in our system is a guy who can do all of the following: 1) set a screen and roll as well as pop and hit an open jumper; 2) can post up down low and be an effective block scoere against smaller teams and can dish it out when the paint collapses; 3) can grab a few offensive rebounds.

I don't think Sy fits that. Right now, he can't take his offensive game out beyond 10 feet. He can definitely grow in that part of the game, and I hope he stays and does, but if he cannot be a dual threat option, then he cannot get sufficient minutes because it doesn't work with what we're trying to do. Looking back at Buzz coached teams, he has really never had a center that contributed that much. Otule for Marquette was probably the closest to a prototypical center, and even in his sixth year in the system, he was only getting about 17 minutes.

It's no coincidence his best players, all fit a similar mold: the destructive tweener: Leday/Crowder; the wing scorers: Butler, Matthews, Bibbs, Hill; and the dynamic guards: Coudugan, Allen, Robinson, Blue

Always choose joy.

You just described an All ACC level center, you're just not going to have that consistenly and Sy certainly isn't that level of talent. I was critical of Sy in another thread but he's here to: run the floor for dunks, catch dump offs and dunk, set good screens and make himself available for the pass, and rotate correctly/block shots on defense. I think right now he's a bit slow on defense which is why he isn't playing that much but it's tough for a freshman to be good there IMO.

If he sticks around I think he'll give pretty solid minutes his junior and senior year. He won't ever be a star but he's more than capable of giving good minutes against bigger teams. I think the biggest reason Buzz doesn't have a history of playing posts is that he has a hard time recruiting posts that have the combo of movement ability and basketball skill he wants on defense (everyone thats not a blue blood does to be fair).

I hope he understands that playing time is earned and that patience is needed as only the most developed big men are big contributors as Fr-So. He has some skills and I think he can become a guy who can score out to 15'. I know Buzz loves the guy based on his comments throughout the season. I hope he stays.

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

Really hope to see more Benedictine College Prep (BHS) kids make it to Tech. The basketball, football and now wrestling and lacrosse teams are doing much better.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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Ed Davis the last guy to come through there?

Always choose joy.

Jalen Hudson was there before he went to whatever Lebron's school in Ohio is

Nickeil Walker Alexander vid. Yes he's a stud.

https://youtu.be/rRPMkBJiZII

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

His teammates: #2 us going to Kentucky, #12 to MTSU.

One more with a couple lefty throw downs and a tea bag Paulus at 2:25

https://youtu.be/vokSKpRRgGU?t=18

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

Looks like a good candidate to continue the LeDay scowl.

stick it in, stick it in, stick it in!

That's awesome, 3 of the top 6 players at a premier camp for underclassmen.

I like how they call it a top 5 but then list the twins together.

What about this Blake Preston kid? 6-9 teammage of BJ Mack and only seeing mid major offers? We could use some more height and check this description:

In the first game of camp, he poured in 39 points showcasing a nice arsenal of offensive moves. He has excellent hands and ran the floor extremely well.

Sounds like he could keep up in Buzz's transition offense.

Come to Blacksburg and see what the Hokie Pokie is really all about

Not sure Buzz currently can take anymore in the 2019 class unless something else changes in another class.

Duane Wilson (6-2, 185) is leaving Marquette as a graduate transfer. The AP report notes that he was initially recruited by Buzz when Buzz was still at Marquette. He'd be available to play immediately next season.

He does not appear to fit the bill for what this team will need next year, with 5, Devin Wilson, Bede, and Pig Jackson all competing for the PG spot.

Any chance he's headed to Blacksburg?

we have no scholarships to give unless someone transfers out.

1 PG Justin Robinson
2 PG Tyrie Jackson
3 PG Wabissa Bede
4 G Devin Wilson
5 G Ahmed Hill
6 G Justin Bibbs
7 G/F Nickeil Alexander-Walker
8 G/F Chris Clarke
9 G/F Ty Outlaw
10 F Kerry Blackshear
11 F Kadim Sy
12 F Seth LeDay
13 F P.J. Horne
w-o F Nick Fullard

Watching their film, I see Jackson and Bede as smaller shooting guards, in the Seth Allen mold, then a floor general like 5. We're gonna have some firepower next year from our freshmen

Always choose joy.

that's the same impression I got too. As a result I expect to see a lot of 2-point personnel groupings similar to what we ran with this year. Robinson & Jackson or Robinson and Bede on the floor together with two of the bigger guards (Hill, Bibbs, NAW, Outlaw) and a forward.

Hmmm a 2017 offer? Attrition?

New Offer?

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

A guard nonetheless. I could see us trying to upgrade a big.

No offer. Click bait title. Probably an "if there's room, we'll offer" deal.

Always choose joy.

is devin wilson transferring no longer a possibility? is he definitely staying? i recall at one point in the season there was talk of him being a grad transfer

Shayok transferring from LOLuva.

"...When we step on that field, they bleed like we bleed and we're gonna show the world."
-Corey Marshall

On Shayok, I have to wonder if he is graduating so he wont have to sit wherever he goes. He has three years at UVA so its possible.

UVA also announced Sophomore Forward Jarred Reuter will transfer as well.

He was tragically underutilized

He was. I love his game. In an actual offense he could be a real weapon.

"...When we step on that field, they bleed like we bleed and we're gonna show the world."
-Corey Marshall

Wow ... A Buzz target when at Marquette- but that's not going to happen

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

Nickeil Alexander-Walker a Virginia Tech Hokie

OKG!

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'