Liberty granted waiver to move to FBS as Independent.

Honestly never I'd see the day, but the NCAA knew a prolonged legal battle over the conference invitation requirement would be a risk. And Liberty has the resources to fight the battle. So here we are with a new, lets say hardliner version of Notre Dame in the offing. FBS schedule in 2018, Bowl eligible in 2019.

Will be interesting to see how they do, resources for days, and have hired the recently fired Baylor AD. But without the location advantage that ODU had during the transition. Gill isnt exactly a proven FBS winner, even though Beamer himself probably couldnt do much to help KU after their nosedive post Mangino. And we saw how they stacked up this year vs a good Hokie squad, so the talent needs an upgrade if they want to compete.

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Berman and Brett McMurphy at ESPn also had this early.

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How the hell they going to find 5-6 other FBS teams willing to travel to Lynchburg to play? Also Whit needs to reduce their payments now.

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Realistically, they're probably looking for 4-5 home games per year for the first few years, to get a cash injection. It shouldn't be impossible to fill a schedule. I bet Tech will play them fairly regularly. I could see Wake Forest being a regular opponent, being close by and also religiously affiliated. Lots of regional recently-added or soon-to-be-added FBS teams would likely be willing to do home and homes with them, like Appy State, Coastal Carolina, ODU and Georgia State/Southern. I think they'll be fine, so long as they're willing to accept 2-for-1 deals with ACC teams and accept that they won't always get 6 home games per year.

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I bet Tech will play them fairly regularly.

I swear I'll knock someone's head off

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They'll be lucky to get 2 for 1 deals with teams like temple and akron. I can't see anyone beside a Virginia school agreeing to play there

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If Whit agrees to a home game at Liberty I will drive to Blacksburg to get my Hokie Club refund. Also why would a new FBS team in a conference agree to a non payment away game? They only have a few opening on their schedule why go there and not say Tech and make a bigger paycheck?

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Why would they do it? I see two reasons: First, those teams still need to get to 6 wins to make a bowl game. If they schedule nothing but P-5 teams on their non-conference slate, there's little margin for error in conference play. Second, Liberty seems to have pretty deep pockets. While I doubt they'll be able to pay as much as Alabama or OSU, I suspect they'll be able to pony up enough dough to get someone to come play.

“You got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

But why would they play an away game? For example CCU this year is playing 2 OOC away games one against P5 team and another against a team they should beat. Why would these low G5 or P5 teams plays at Liberty? When Liberty can't pay low G5 teams to take a loss. Liberty will have to find 5-6 of these schools willing to play there every year.

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VT should never play Liberty in a regular season football game

VT should never play Liberty

You could've just stopped there.

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I know they have money, but I just don't see this working out well for them. Being an independent works great for Notre Dame. Liberty is not Notre Dame.

Liberty is not Notre Dame.

Try telling that to Falwell.

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Try telling that to Falwell.

Like he listens to things with empirical evidence.

This is exactly why I said that.

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My favorite line in the article:

Liberty hopes to establish an Eastern identity, playing schools like William & Mary and Virginia, and then move up to the big names.

He's no good to me dead.

The article is from October 21, 1989..... so they have been working on the slow route.

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Yea that confused me for a hot second

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I am so proud and excited for my old University's decision making lately. It's been getting boring watch the dominance of winning so many FCS championships! /s

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They can't even win the Big South over Charleston Southern - I don't see this working out very well for them.

I mean, hell, the money's obviously there, but even recruits don't like foreseeing a future as a punching bag for the Big Boys if they have offers elsewhere.

“I’ve been here 23 years and he’s arguably the best player in college football in my time. It would be hard to name another player who had more impact on the game than what Corey Moore had that season.” - Bud Foster

3rd best FBS team in the Commonwealth.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

you forgot LOLUVA......

Nope your right, I see LOLUVA behind them in 4th.

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Let's see:
1. VT
2. JMU
3. Richmond
4. ODU
5. William and Mary
6. Liberty
7. Virginia State
8. Virginia Union
9. Norfolk State
10. Hampton
11. VMI
12. Randolph Macon
13. Emory and Henry
14. Christopher Newport
15. Bridgewater
16. Washington and Lee
17. Bluefield
18. Radford
19. VCU
20. Phoebus High
21. Averett
23. Ferrum
24. ECPI
25. Virginia International
26. LOLUVA (Can't even make top 25 in it's own state)

YOU forgot most high schools in the tidewater region

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Also, Phoebus has really fallen off a bit, what with being dropkicked to 3A from 5A with the recent realignment. Blacksburg High School knocked Phoebus out of the playoffs this year (though Blacksburg did go on to win the state championship, it was a huge surprise as their 5-5 record was good for the 10 seed out of the 25-team "3A West" region, 16 of whom made it to the playoffs)

I dont pay as much attention to VHSL or VIS football as I used to, and when i last did Phoebus was a power.

the more i scrolled down the funnier it got.

Let's see:

you forgot loluva-wise
"The Other Cavaliers"

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My friends that are Hampden-Sydney alums might be upset to be left off your list.........

They could be top 20 at something!

Fuck Ian McCall.

Edit: for context I'm going to repost my following comment from a different thread.

I would like to take a moment to remind everyone that Liberty University gave Ian McCaw a job. He was Baylor's athletic director that resigned after being sanctioned and placed on probation. This is a top down scandal and he got out free and came to our state of VA to be an athletic director again.

I found TKP after two rails from TOTS then walking back to my apartment and re-watching the 2012 Sugar Bowl. I woke up the next day with this username.

I was going to say... They're led by people who have no problems throwing away any moral or legal responsibility to be successful. Wouldn't be surprised if they are a really good program in 10 years in football and basketball only to have everything exposed a couple years later

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

Does this boost our 2020 strength of schedule? Now that we have 12 FBS games...

Somewhat related... The most recent episode of Podcast Ain't Played Nobody (Bill Conally and Steven Godfrey) spent 15-20 minute discussing how Georgia Southern was the guinea pig team/case study for every FCS team with FBS aspirations.

If anyone's interested, here's the link, sort of starts at 22 minutes:

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Great name for a college football podcast

That was..fast

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That made me laugh so hard, thousand legs to you

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Liberty is trying to be Baylor East Coast, I wonder how many Title IX violations they are going to get in the next few years. And if they will be lucky enough to have a Chip and Joanna Gaines of their own.

.....I would love to have my own Joanna Gaines as well.

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

Me as well.

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I wouldnt mind Chip......

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Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

I wouldnt mind Chip.....

OK Garage I can appreciate your mancrush but look at the pic again. Look AT It!

The guy is an UBERDORK! And not in a good way like dork magic. The binocs are the sure sign. He'd scream like a prom queen!

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Yeah, I need someone to decorate my house too.

Wait, am I doing this right?

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Is Joanna going to be there to oversee the install?

If so, give me all the shiplap.

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that's not even real shiplap

If a tree falls in Scott Stadium does it make a sound?

Are there binocular thieves running all around Baylor's stadium? Those are some serious straps for what appear to be ordinary binoculars. One strap around the 'ol neck should be sufficient here.

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