Winter 2017 Fishing Reports/Shows/Discussion

This is a slow time of the year, but there are still some winter fishing opportunities. Plus, there are winter fishing expos (I believe the Hokies bass fishing team has a booth at the Richmond Fishing Expo next week -Jan 20-22 in Doswell at the Virginia Expo Center.)

I am going to attend the Maryland Saltwater Sportsfishing Association fishing expo in Frederick, MD this Saturday, and then the weekend of the 21st I am going sheepshead fishing in Charleston, SC on the Mount Pleasant Pier. I am hopeful to do some trout fishing if the winter is mild.

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What are your winter fishing plans? Is anyone heading down to tropical waters? I hear the sailfish bite is hot down around Miami.

Also, the bluefin tuna bite went off around Morehead CIty, but the big winter clipper that just passed through will shut that down for a bit.

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Is anyone heading down to tropical waters?

Sure would like to find a pal or group of people to do this kind of thing. Never have been successful talking the SO into this. I have tried... but even with some good trips behind us she is like... meh.

rather be at the Rivah.

Was thinking about making a trip to the New this upcoming weekend to try for some musky. Have yet to go this winter and don't really know what condition the river is in or if anyone has been moving any fish. If the weather and water look favorable we'll probably fish below the dam and at Bisset. May put in at Whitethorn and run up to the islands and drift back if we have time. Does anyone know if the new ramp is in at the other park in Radford? I'll post a report if everything works out and we make the trip.

I'm floating a stretch of the New throwing dead chickens at Musky on Monday. Will post a report.

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Forecast looks favorable for Saturday morning so I should be a go. Will probably put in a good half day plus, concentrating on deeper pools that hopefully hold some fish. I'll post a report when I get back. Traditionally we've had more action on jakes, jerkbaits and swimbaits, so that's what we'll likely spend the better part of our time throwing. Looks like they have been keeping the flow pretty low, so that may impact where we can put in. Rivers here in my part of the state have looked great the last few days. Hopefully we can move some fish.

River has been really low all winter. Be cautious of where your running if you're trying to run a jet boat or prop (generally not ever a great idea on the new). I came back and fished it about a month ago had about 15 follows and finally got one to eat after following everyone's bait in the boat (big plastic) he settled on my glide bait, was a nice healthy 46" fish made my trip worth it.

Thanks for the info. I run a prop with a river runner and typically try to stay in deeper areas near access points - usually puts me below the dam to the 81 bridge, below Bissett to the first set of shoals, and above and below Whitethorne (mostly above due to downstream shoals - but I like the area past the bend where the cross ties and houses are). We usually drift past an area then run back up and repeat. Not ideal but I'm not really set up to drift and don't know if I'd want to attempt that in the winter. I know the river fairly well from my time at VT but I live about 2 hours away and don't get to put a lot of time in during the winter. I'd like to expand my horizons somewhat but again don't have a lot of time and my musky experience is limited to my own trial and error.

Nice fish - glide baits seem to work well and may give those a try. Seems like they hammer them for some reason once they commit. How do you work them at the boat when you get a follow? I'll probably have a glide bait, bulldog, and a swimbait (savage gear line thru trout I rigged up with a leader; looks insanely realistic in my swimming pool but who knows) on my rods when I put in. I usually throw some big cranks and jakes as well depending on what's going on. Thanks again for the info - I'll try and post a report when we get back.

I actually got this one to eat at the boat and he came over a 'boulder' shelf in then water from deep to about 8"-a foot of water when he ate. with glide baits I keep giving them that pop cadence while figure eighting. This seems to work well in the Winter funny enough he barely hit this bait I actually thought he had missed it but gave him a quick second and felt a little tension and proceeded to nail in the little piece of treble in his mouth. Those line through trout are great baits I'd run everything fairly slow this time of the year, I always have a hard time getting them to eat the line through but it seems to get a ton of fish to follow, if they don't eat it follow up quick with a glide bait or something slightly more erratic like a crank bait. Any glide bait you have that cuts wide and slow is great this time of the year. The one I was using was a bait my friend makes similar to a Shum shum if you know what that is.

Awesome and thanks for the info. Do you ever throw Double 10's?

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In the warmer months I throw them quite a bit. They cover a bunch of water and seem to move a lot of fish.

Well we made the trip but sad to say we didn't have much luck. The temperature when I left my house at 6:00 in Wise County was 54 deg - when we got off the interstate at Radford it was 37. We put in at Bisset and fished the big hole downstream of the ramp along the far back for several hours with not so much as a follow. We threw glide baits, bulldogs, jakes, super shad raps, swimbaits, all to no avail. Water had some color to it, but no idea what the temp was as my depth finder wasn't working. It stayed overcast and cool until we got off the water at around noon. Saw another boat go by that fished below us - talked to them as we were taking out and they had been trying some flies with no luck either. They mentioned that Whitethorne was packed and they were gonna try upriver, so we decided at that point to call it a day and head home. I don't know why we couldn't move any fish, as the conditions seemed right and we usually at least get to see some chasing baits. All in all a day on the water nonetheless, hope to get back in the coming weeks. Thanks to everyone for the info.

Bummer, that's musky fishing for ya had plenty of days like that where everything seems perfect and the fish just won't cooperate. Hopefully you'll have a little better luck next time!

Musky fishing has been very slow the past few days. Talked to my fly guide friends this weekend and the water has simply been too cold. Not many fish moving. Other guide reports told us of a lot of boats on the river yesterday with not a single follow reported by the folks we talked to. Regardless, Mike Smith and I hit a nice spot today above Claytor Lake for approximately four hours. Air temp was 47, water temp 40. His first cast, using one of my flies, and a mid 40 inch fish shows up below it and follows all the way to the boat. No eat, Mike blames me for screaming bloody murder when I saw it. I blame him for forgetting to figure 8. We fished hard the rest of the day with not another sighting, but that's Musky fishing. Any day on the New is better than a day in the office.

Edit: Included a photo of the fly that fish was super hot on. T-Bone style in a color combo I call Tequila Sunrise. It showed up exceptionally well in the off color water we had today.

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Nice looking fly. It seems that the fly anglers almost have an advantage over conventional anglers in the winter by the reports I see. I spoke recently with a musky fly angler and they thought you had a lot better bait control and depth control with a fly. Makes sense to me, particularly in a river where the depth and bottom composition are routinely changing. It's hard to make a crankbait do much more that run at it's proper depth, and bottom bouncing lures are hard to work correctly through the weeds and snags - at least in my limited experience.

Good to know the no-shows weren't just in our boat. I'm by no means a polished musky angler, but we can usually get a few to say hi boatside. I wholeheartedly agree, however, that a bad day chasing musky beats a good day at the office. There's nothing like watching your bait come in and seeing that dark shadow rise up behind it. Definitely worth the additional time and effort it takes between hookups.

I appreciate all the info from everyone. If anyone gets any reports of things picking up, let us know so we can dream about fishing while we stare at our computers.

While I've caught my share of muskies, I don't agree that fly fishermen have the edge in winter for them. When the fish are spooky, nothing much can unspook 'em, and when they're hot, a decent presentation with a proven lure will give you a shot. Yes, you need to have several lures ready to go to mitigate depth and bottom obstruction issues, and obviously, some baits that work in the summer are not indicated for winter fishing, but in the long run, I believe it is local knowledge (muskies will be where muskies are, year in and year out in my experience, in the same general areas and specific holes or lies) and perseverance that puts them in the boat. There are more muskies in the New these days than ever, but most anglers after them are limited to the range of their jet or prop boats, which of course, rules out a lot of river, and unfortunately adds to pressure that can limit your chances of moving the fish. Unfortunately, because, in the day, there were only a few anglers targeting them and they didn't see musky lures on a daily basis, something that's changed dramatically in the last several years with the publicity and popularity of the sport getting out. That said, the New offers a damn good chance of encountering a musky without putting in the ten thousand casts of lore, even for beginners. As a guide, I encountered more muskies while fishing for smallmouth that we ever got into when guiding for muskies, but while we caught dozens of medium to small fish, the big ones are usually only caught when targeting them. Either way of fishing specifically for them, either lures or flies, though, means a lot of effort and persistence. Muskies ain't easy, but what a payoff!!

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Thanks, tying flies in various colors is probably more addicting than fishing. As far as who has an edge, working a fly shallower may be a slight edge over lures, but there is no way us feather throwers can put in the number of casts and consistent retrieves that spin fishermen. It is painful to throw musky flies all day. 4 hours of heaving a 350 grain shooting head on an 11 weight and a fly literally the size of a squirrel will put a Kam Chancellor size hurtin' on your arm. It's hard to keep the focus and consistent retrieves and figure eights all day long.

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Everything I hear about the New is that the Muskies are HOT during the winter. I would try to contact New River Hokie here on TKP. He has not been around much because work is a bear right now. I will send him an e mail with a heads up. He fishes that area a lot.

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Thanks for the info. I'd love to get an insider take on what's going on right now. In the end I'm sure I'll have a good day on the water. Musky fishing is the Kodiak hunting of the freshwater world. First time I had a 40"er follow me to the boat I was done chasing small fish in the winter, unless I was gonna use them as bait.

I will be making at least one trip to NC to see if I can figure out some winter redfish flats fishing. Also seriously considering 4-5 days in New Orleans for monster reds.

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I know you probably have a connection down in New Orleans, but my friend and fellow guide, Jim Richmond, has a really great old Cajun guide down there who has put him onto many huge fly rod reds on more than one occasion. I'll be glad to get the name if you'd care for it. And by the way, Jim is still guiding on the New, and I would highly recommend him for anyone wishing to take a guided trip on the New. While Jim specializes in fly fishing, and the contents of his fly boxes would turn any fly fisherman, or fly tyer for that matter, green with envy, he can also guide spin/conventional fishermen as well. A fly fishing and tying expert, Jim has decades of experience and is the quintessential "old school" independent fishing guide...big boat he can really handle, fantastic home made buffet shore lunch, the whole magilla.

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I think we are going to go DIY! We did back in April and it took a day or two to figure out, but this time I know what sections of water to go to. The guides down there are EXPENSIVE.

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Yeah, I get the DIY approach. I'm not financially able to pay the freight often myself. I'll reach out to Jim and see if I can get any hard info that might help you. As for expensive, though, while you don't always get what you pay for, you almost never get what you don't pay for. Or to paraphrase an old fishing buddy, you can't afford a cheap fishing guide.

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Do you have any recommended guides in your area? I have a place on the northern neck but sometimes come over to the middle peninsula. Have had a lot of fun on the Piankatank through the years, they have some great spots and the fishery seems healthier.

rather be at the Rivah.

I can only go on anecdotes and on the water meet and greets, but I've been impressed with Cptn Chris Newsome. He specializes in light tackle and fly fishing all around here, from the Rapp to Mobjack. www.bayflyfishing.com. He knows the water and I've watched his clients catch fish and having fun. I'd fish with him.

Edit: Please feel free to email me when you're thinking of coming to the Mid Pen. Maybe we can hook up, but even if not, I can tell you what's been going on that I know of. Always glad to meet and fish with fellow Hokies. There are FAR too many 'hoos around these parts.

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I can verify that Chris Newsome does a good job, I have used him a few times. He brought me to some nice rock that I caught on the fly. Is there a decent way to exchange email addresses?

rather be at the Rivah.

I have posted my email address several times on various TKP fishing threads, so far with no negatory results, so I'll just go ahead and do so again. Name's Tom, reach me at newriverangler@hotmail.com. Send me an email and we're good to go, if I get it, I will respond. Always glad to yak about fishing, something that I actually know something about! And by the way, other than Chris, there is only one other guide I have run across and met at the local ramps, Capt. Ed Lawrence of Speculator Charters (going from memory here, could have spelling wrong). Don't know anything about him other than he targets specs and seems knowledgeable about local waters. It won't be all that long before the croaker show up again and then the flounder...I'm already tired of winter.

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Will anyone else be at the Frederick MD MSSS show?

The Richmond show is awesome but my buddies have showed me too many pictures on 7 pound sheepshead to resist

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Ill be at the Richmond show.

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Speaking of showcases and expos, has anyone ever been up to Harrisburg for the Great American Outdoor Show? I think it is held in February every year. Took a day trip up there with my dad last year and had a blast. Get a lot of good deals on equipment (both hunting and fishing). The Show is like four 4 times the size of the Dulles Expo Center it is unreal. They have a massive arena just for fishing equipment and trips.

I have not been to the Harrisburg show, but I have heard good things. It falls the same week as my day job's big conference so no dice for me.

10 days until I am fishing in Charleston! I would welcome any tips from you guys, especially if you have fished Mount Pleasant Pier.

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As a teenager and through college I'd go every year with my Dad. It's amazing. I'm going to start taking my kids next year probably. Great deals. It's really something you need more than one day to experience. Enough to make your head spin. I highly recommend.

Hit the creeks off the ICW north of St Aug this pm. All small stuff...6 trout, 5 reds, a flounder, and at least 8 bluefish. All but 1 on the Storm shad. Wondering if my gulps are just too old and need to be replaced

Storm shads are awesome!

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They are. Darned bluefish killed two of them today.

Quick Poll Question- what is your favorite make of braided line?

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My first attempt was spider wire, and not knowing anything about braided line, I wrapped it too tight, made an enormous rats nest and swore off braided line.

A buddy finally showed me how to use it properly and now braid is all I use.

He was using Power Pro at the time and that is all I have tried since.

Power Pro Super Slick

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Any fly experts I need some advice my girlfriend wants to learn to fly fish and while I'm slightly skilled I'm not very versed on buying the right gear and all. I'm not even sure what weight rod and tackle I use myself it works for smallies and bream. But anywho I'm looking to buy her a rod and some tackle for smallmouth and bream and largemouth and was hoping to get some expert advice on good beginners stuff for her nothing too expensive as we usually fish in rivers out of kayaks don't wanna lose anything super expensive.

What are you calling not too expensive? Right now Cabelas has a 7/8 WT CGR for $60. It's fiberglass but it's a heck of a rod for the money. Pair it with a Lamson Liquid with a decent 7 or 8WT WF line and you're golden. 7/8 is a bit heavier, but the fiberglass makes a nice bending rod that's forgiving to cast.

A 6WT would be more friendly to cast all day, but would struggle throwing bigger flies for smallies and largemouth especially on a river.

One of these might be a decent option:
- http://www.sierratradingpost.com/temple-fork-outfitters-nxt-series-fly-r...

- http://www.sierratradingpost.com/temple-fork-outfitters-nxt-ii-series-fl...

Like I said if you want to spend under $150 I'd go with one of the above. If you don't mind a little more I'd go with the $60 CGR, and $100 Lamson Liquid or Remix (whichever is the cheap one) and then maybe some GPX or Rio Smallmouth line ($60-80 if you find it on sale).

Look at Cabela's RLS combo. I've had it for awhile now I don't fly fish all that much but it's a damn good set up for the $150. The line on it is solid, reel is solid, rod is easy to learn on its got 4.5 stars on 150+ reviews. I'd suggest using a different leader than whatever comes on it.

Concur. Even cheap rods these days are good enough for starting, and six weight is a good all purpose wt. The reel on that size gear is just to hold the line, so cheap is perfect. Not sure about the 9' for kayaking, but I don't do that so I don't really know.

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I use a 2 piece, 8 foot, 5/6 wt TFO bug launcher got it as a cheap entry set up for bass fishing. It's nice but we fish on small rivers and I'm wondering if a shorter rod would make casting a little more accurate or not. The person I'm shopping for is short so I'm guessing a 6-7 foot rod is plenty long enough?

Go 9 foot. Height of an angler has nothing to do with rod length. Longer rod = longer casts. I find it easiest to teach beginners on standard 9 foot rod.

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Yeah, that makes sense. The only fly rod I have that isn't 9' is a 7' 4wt I used to use for small mountain stream brookie fishing where even that much rod is problematical with the overhang, etc.

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Our Flygal April Vokey. She wears it well.

I've been trying to get her to Lake of the Woods for 2 years.

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Here on the coast, it's Dr. Julie Ball, but I don't know how to post her photo. Little help?

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I'll be seeing Doc Julie next week. She is at the VA Fishing Expo this coming weekend. Please post! I thought you had the pic thing down?

  • Find her pic on the web and right click on it.
  • Select save pic as
  • name the pic and and save it to your picture file or any one that you choose.
  • Close the file you saved to
  • Go to this link: Post Image
  • The page will have choose image
  • Click on that and your PC files will come up
  • Choose the file that you saved the picture to and then click on the pick. Then click the "open" field.
  • The site will upload your
  • Going down the page you will see 2 "markdown" addresses. Copy the second one.
  • On TKP comment select the little VA box paste (Ctrl V) into the url field.
  • Click insert and the pic will be loaded into your comment.

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Also, you can right click on a picture, select copy image address and then either put that on imgur or just use that address in the TKP image entry box.

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Thanks again, Musky. Yes, I do know how to post a picture now from my pc, but to highlight the depths, or heights rather of my techno/computer illiteracy, I didn't know that I could get the picture from the web and right click on it, etc. My ignorance is basic functional illiteracy in the medium. Anyway, French took care of things for me so I'm off the hook. Wish I could make the Expo. Maybe next year.

Edit: Thanks also 07. Appreciate the help.

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The expo is just ok. Its something to do in January. Last year I was looking at a bass boat priced above $70,000 and the thing had a monthly payment of ~550.00 / month. I was thinking that that does not sound right until I noticed that the term of the loan was 20 years! Really?

I was going to post a pic of April in a bikini but I always get in trouble when I do.

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Post away, Musky. What's a few downvotes between us fishin' folks, huh? Anything's better than NerdMagic's half naked rassler pictures he's so fond of. Not, of course, that there's anything wrong with that.

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Fish you have encourged me!

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My, my Musky. That IS encouraging! Love the way she handles that bone...

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Hey Musky, how are the boat prices at the show? Also, I've heard that if you're bold and direct (e.g. - you make it know you're buying a boat today), that you can potentially score a crazy deal (offering $30k for a $50k boat). Any thoughts?

Always happy to help

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She's a dentist. "Is it safe?"

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April hosted a ladies weekend in SWVA 3-4 years back. I talked to her briefly online about it.

Needless to say April has taken a back seat to Rebekka Redd for me. Rebekka is all over the fly fishing world and has her own tv show. Also, she is still single and I know for a fact that she has in her possession a 2014 fly fishing calendar that I was featured in as Mr. May.

In the words of Dumb and Dumber... "So you're saying there's a chance?"

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Well that is nice! I mean the fish of course. She has a nice presentation.

We need the guy that posts the "Why Can't We Have Both" meme.

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My new favorite brookie rod is a 6'3" fiberglass Echo 2 weight. I can cast it in a closet. Hooked a 15 inch largemouth on it last summer. THAT was fun.

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when I was maybe 7 (1962?), my dad would put me in the front of a homemade jon boat with an 8' flyrod with a yellow popping bug (red eyes and rubber legs). he'd skull paddle us around a farm pond on a friend's horse farm the last hour or 2 before dark and I'd catch bream and small bass. it's the first regular fishing i did.

you guys are the pros but I might go with 8'. It is plenty for most scenarios...farm ponds, shorelines, fishing around docks/lights. imo, 9' just provides that many more opportunities to break the tip.

a little OT, but what is the best way to display my dad's 1950's vintage bamboo flyrod? (and I have the extra tip that came with it as well).

he passed in 2007 and it is one of a couple of keepsakes that has special meaning to me.

You mentioned skulling. My dad used to make me do it. Guy asked him once if he wanted one of the new electric motors everyone was talking about, and my dad just pointed at me and said, "maybe when he goes to college". I essentially learned to fly fish with one hand. Even had one of those heavy old clunky wind up automatic reels to help with the unidextrous approach I was faced with. I can still skull the hell out of a johnboat though I seldom get a chance to.

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sometimes I stumble into the wrong thread and realize there are more words out there which I don't understand.

If a tree falls in Scott Stadium does it make a sound?

Skulling in my day was done from the front seat of a square nosed johnboat. You'd sit as far to the bow as you could scrunch, and use a very short paddle with one (in my case left) hand to move the boat with kind of difficult to describe back and forth motions designed to allow a free hand for fishing and a way to move the boat along the shoreline of choice while fishing it. It becomes second nature after done for hundreds of hours, and can really generate a lot of speed forward for the effort, and a lot of maneuverability as you cruise the shoreline. Great in lakes and slow moving rivers. Once electric motors came along and became affordable, skulling seemed to die out where I fished. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if it isn't still popular with folks further south, and it is a good method when cane pole fishing for crappies or bream.

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wow. I wasn't even looking for any explanations but this is a terrific description. Thank you for putting in the time and effort to educate me.

Leg.

If a tree falls in Scott Stadium does it make a sound?

Under the lets go old school fishing techniques column, anybody ever pole a canoe......upstream.

anybody ever pole a canoe......upstream

that sounds like a euphemism, honestly...

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Look up poling a flats skiff and you will see the more common "poling" technique. Try that while standing in a canoe going upstream in a white water river.

I'm not googling anything at work that will educate me more about "poling techniques"

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My friend Dave who still lives in Giles Co. had a friend who paddled/poled the entire length of the New River...backwards (upstream). I forget his name though I could get it. The guy was an older fellow when he did it.

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WHY????

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My question, exactly. The best answer I could get was "Because it's there."

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yup. short, light paddle. prop/brace the handle in your elbow with hand near the blade. use kind of a flattened figure 8 motion. when right handed, paddle is in left hand/arm and fly rod or jig pole is in right hand. left leg is typically in figure 4 on the front deck and getting sunburned if wearing shorts.

lol...i had the auto reel as well...i think it was a shakespeare

Yep, Shakespeare from Western Auto.

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You mentioned skulling. My dad used to make me do it.

We might be 1/2 brothers!

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I'm thinking I'll go 8 feet I take her fishing on a lot of small rivers where room is an issue unless you're after squirrels in my time using poppers in the summer I've found it to be tight with an 8' rod in a canoe

It's easier casting for a novice with the longer rod especially from a kayak. I have fly fished from a kayak and casting is a challenge.

I ordered some Z-Man minnows and 3/16 oz jigheads. I am hopeful that there will be some trout around Mount Pleasant.

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Quick question for you avid fishermen out there:

does anyone fly fish? If so, could you recommend a good starter combo? I anticipate a lot of trout fishing in the Shenandoah Valley and parts of WVa. But I would also love to fish for small mouth during the summer months with the same set up if that is even possible.

Is it football season yet?

Lots of good starter combos out there. Expect to spend anywhere from $150-$250 for a solid rod, reel, line. Redington, Temple Fork Outfitters, Orvis.... lots of brands. If that seems expensive, trust me, it is worth the money. There's also a pretty big secondary market out there for older rods and reels. I think the page I follow on Facebook is called "Fly fishing buy sell trade"

You can get away with a 5 weight for both trout and smallmouth. The 5 will be heavy for brookies in blue lines in SNP and a little light for smallmouth, but you could do both. I'd suggest a 9 foot rod to start with.

Not trying to profit off of anything on this site, but if you need smallmouth flies, I tie custom flies and can sell you some stuff you won't find in any store. Hand tied by me and they work and last longer than standard flies. I've got some photos at the site below.

www.knotthereelworld.com

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Apparently it is impossible to find shrink wrap tube XFlock grips in any color besides black, yellow, pink, blue, and red. I am trying to do maroon and orange Xflock (either maroon with orange x's or a maroon rear grip and an orange foregrip.) Does anyone have any ideas where I can find a manufacturer? Most of the web just redirects me back to Mudhole and those same five colors.

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Never heard of the brands you've listed but I know for work we buy our wire heat shrink from panduit I think they have verying colors dunno bout maroon but I think they have orange maybe

I checked them out. They need to make a clear product!

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oh well...fail

fail again

maybe the link works

seems to...a Monday morning north florida redfish

I got you fam.

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thanks!

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yes...25"

Thanks for posting that, dave. I'm not depressed enough already with this dreary weather, but hey, rub it in, man, rub it in. Nice fish.

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I do what I can

Curious on everyones favorite places to go in the late winter early spring around virginia this cold weather has me itching to get out on the water soon.

Trout fishing- White Top Laurel above Damascus was my favorite spot, but being up near DC it is out of the question. Bass are holding in Four Mile Run's warm outflow in Alexandria. The trout stockings are taking place in lakes and ponds (Lake Fairfax has a nice trout set up) over the coming weeks.

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Been thinking about taking a day in the week and going to the Bremo output station for smallies in early June I'd go camp by there and wade fish the output and usually do 30-40 fish in an afternoon

Hope there are still fish there with all of the coal ash being dumped in the river by the wonderful, environmentally friendly power company, Dominion Power.

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You should be mad at DEQ who does the regulations and permits for this. Dominion also isn't dumping pure coal ash in the river as I understand it. They are treating the water to standards determined by DEQ and EPA before it goes into the river. They have their test results up online if you want to believe them or not. https://www.dom.com/about-us/news-center/electric-projects-and-initiativ...

I'm absolutely furious at DEQ. If I ever meet the head of that panel, I'll probably go to jail. I went to the public meetings and said my piece and that guy actually laughed at me after I expressed my concern for my health and the ability for me to continue to guide in RVA with bad water quality. A week later, it was brought out that he was paid off by Dominion. Dominion is absolutely awful, and the terrible people at DEQ are just as bad for accepting their money.

Dominion may be treating it to the "standards," but that doesn't mean it didn't turn the water in the James an off color brown all summer long and trash the fishing.

Ending my rant here, this dives into too many politics.

Regardless, I would be very hesitant to go fishing near Bremo based on what was found about the soil and water in that area.

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The water in the James at least in the Richmond could be partially affected by the City of Richmond having combined storm sewer and sewage sewer. So when it storms a lot there is a mixture of sewage and stormwater that go into the James. http://www.richmondgov.com/publicutilities/projectCombinedSewerOverflow....
It's an old practice that is slowly getting removed over time.
I'm a Senior in Civil Engineering here at Tech specializing in Water Resources so this is really interesting stuff from a fishing standpoint and engineering standpoint.

I know that this sewage disposal into the river occurs but this was totally different. I've guided on this river in town for 5 years now and it wouldn't storm for weeks and the water above Richmond was an off color brown that no one could provide an answer to. It stayed that way for weeks in late summer last summer. The only thing that had changed was Dominion dumping the coal ash. I communicate with the JRA and both myself, the Riverkeeper and several other anglers I've talked to think it is the coal ash dumping. I hope it's not, because it will continue to hurt the river. Unless someone can show me a specific reason for the discoloration (and I'm happy to learn), I think it's on Dominion.

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Its almost big largemouth and striper time on Lake Anna.

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It's been well over a decade since I fished on lake Anna kinda weird I live so close and never go there I'm usually on the south and north Anna rivers all summer. When's the striper and largemouth bite start up? Is it fishable in a canoe?

What do you catch on the South and North Anna rivers? I've been told there are spotted bass in them.

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On the south mainly smallmouth and a few spotted bass it depends what stretches you're on I can get specific if you're curious but for spotted bass and they get good sized on the north Anna in the sandy and muddy stretches we caught a few 3 pounders last year.
Both rivers aren't going to produce many 18 inch or bigger fish they're small in size compared to other smallie rivers like the James I fish it very frequently in the summer and usually only see one 18 inch smallie come in a boat each year, lost the only one over 5 pounds I hooked this summer on a buzz bait he shook off in some rapids(I still lose sleep over watching the buzz bait come flying out of the depths when he shook it off)
Both rivers hold good smallmouth numbers and healthy numbers of spotted bass as long as too many people don't keep all the bigger bass they catch some stretches are worse because of that
Some of its deep holes have some stripers in the exact time though I'm clueless when it comes to them

Thank you very much. I definitely want to float one or both sections and chase smallmouth and spotted bass. Could be an area I add to my guiding repertoire.

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Depends what you're guiding for the fishing is good but the rivers are both insanely tricky to time right any rain can ruin it completely along with low water can make it a drag to float plus log jams make it an adventure always so if you wanna try it watch water levels very hard and check clarity before going both rivers take usually two days to let sediment settle after a rain

When floating the south, do you ever take out at greenwood church road? I've heard of people taking out before the bridge, but never done it myself. Always thought the next access was rt 54.

Not at greenwood church road no usually 54 that ramps easier to get out at

My winter plan is simple, get out as often as I can chasing stripers on SML. Got out yesterday and had a good day. Started off under the gulls jigging 3/4 oz jig heads tipped with a white ice fluke. Casting swim baits paid off too. Late morning we switched tactics and got the cast net out. Was able to catch about 3 dozen quality baits (gizzard ranging in size from 5in to 12in) using my cast net designed for deep water (baits were in creek 30+fow). We ended the day with big baits on planer boards near the bank and smaller baits on weighted downlines. Caught fish on planers and downlines. Ended the day with 10 fish, not a bad way to spend a day off from work.

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Curious about that deep water cast net. Just heavier weights?

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The deep water net I use is a 10ft net with a strip of tape just above the weights. The theory is that the tape provides some drag and keeps the net open longer as it falls. We messed around with several nets years ago and you could see on side scan imaging that a normal net will start to parachute in water deeper that 10 or so feet. To counter-act the weight of the weights we started adding tape (first, clear packing tape then we moved to duct tape). Its amazing to see the effect.....when the net hits the water, it will actually spread out (even if you don't throw a true pancake) and stay open longer. When the bait moves deeper in the late fall (20FOW) I used to stand no chance, now with this technique catching bait year round is no problem.

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standard north florida shrimping net...there are folks here who will sew nylon webbing in the perimeter of a cast net to keep it open as it descends

Is catfishing any good this time of year?

The fishing report board at Greentop says lots of good catfishing all winter long in the James in Richmond. I'd think you'd want to make sure the water was clear.

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It is terrific around warm water discharges in the Potomac.

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Late winter/early spring fishing for walleyes in upper Claytor Lake and the New River from Austinville on down to the lake was my go to when I lived there. Not as many walleye as a Canadian adventure might provide, but you have a chance to catch a trophy, not to mention the fillets that can be had if you're successful. Foster Falls, near Shot Tower Park (I-77) has a boat ramp and a decent (sometimes too crowded) fishery right there at the falls, and the waters down to the Rt 100 bridge especially can hold those fish as they move upriver to spawn. I always used minnow tipped feather jigs, swim baits and curly tailed grubs at the falls, then switched to suspending jerk baits, especially the Rattlin' Rogue, in brown back color for the float. We got walleye, muskies, and citation smallmouth doing that in late Feb and March. Since walleyes can be finicky/streaky biters, we had some days without much to show for our efforts, but when you hit it right...man what fun.

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Anyone know if the boat prices are worth showing up for at the Expo (mainly looking to see if they truly offer any amazing deals)? I've never owned anything larger than a canoe, but with 3 little ones, I'd love to get something we can all go out on.

Honestly, when I have gone, I have focused on the seminars. I have not done any kind of boat shopping, so I will defer to others.

There can be some decent deals on tackle, but make sure you know what you are looking for and price points before you go. There are always some tables selling stuff that looks like great deals, but in reality it is pure junk. Worst case, if you don't find what you are looking for, you are a ten minute drive from Green Top.

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Dog: "Okay, remind me again just WHY we are out here?"

I live in N FL for a reason...I have a 55 degree cutoff...50 with gloves.

Ahhh yes, snow and cold, two hands on the oars...reminds me of my early spring guiding days. I'll bet the dog tips better than some of my anglers did, though.

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Jealous. I would be out there with you in a heartbeat.

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Heading to Charleston around dinner time. We should be there for the sunrise bite. ZMan's for trout, oysters for sheepshead.

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Sounds awesome. Reminds me of a trip I did once down in Hatterass. We fished all night, slept all day. Had a bioluminescent tide roll in on us under a near full moon. Catching everything from skates to flounder to blues to a few reds. Dang good time ... except for my liver. It still hasn't forgiven me.

G'luck, French. As my old redneck buddy Cecil used to say, "Hope ya catch a sackfull". Safe travels.

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So my dad used to have a ultralightweight 5' 6" bait caster when I was a kid and now that I'm good with baitcasters I can't find an ultralight combo anymore does anyone know if uglystick or anyone else makes something similar? I would like to use it for panfishing/jigging/trolling for crappie/bream

And I have tried the slab daddy rods and reels the 9 foot rods are excessive and I was very unimpressed with their baitcaster reel it felt like a 2$ piece of junk

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Edit: I was thinking closed face spincast when you posted. Google seems to indicate several baitcast options

I've found a few viable rods just tricky finding a reel for something that light luckily I live 10 miles from greentop, basspro and cabelas I'll probably go look this weekend if I can't find anything online

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And if you wanted to spend more, I am sure St Croix probably makes something that would work. Uglysticks (especially TigerLight's) make good solid heavy saltwater rods, but I wouldn't think they have the ideal feel for targeting panfish. That being said, I had an old white fiberglass casting rod that I used as a kid and loved it for bluegills. I didn't switch until Dad started me chasing trout.

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I want to find that ugly stick in store and see if it'll work the tricky bit is finding a baitcaster that can spool and cast light jigs I'm used to my med heavy 7" st croix with a lews speed spool LF5
That's my go to setup these days I don't use anything else but a fly rod but with 14 pound mono on those rods casting panfish jigs is a method for disaster I haven't checked if lews makes one for lighter weight tackle

Is the baitcaster a requirement? I've got a 5' 6" ultralight Fenwick paired with a Shimano Saraha, and it's a wonderful setup for panfish + smallies. From what I've read, you're going to get more for your money in the ultralight reel market by going with a spinner.

Since I switched from spinning to baitcaster I'd say yes because of the advantages I've found using baitcasters, just my personal preference I still like spinning reels but I've found the baitcasters easier for myself, it feels more natural to me
But if I can't find one I'll get a cheaper ugly stick spinning ultralight for filling the cooler with bream I don't want anything too fancy I only fish rivers usually so don't wanna break or lose anything too fancy I feel nervous just using the st croix rod I got for Christmas but it was free I guess

FWIW, Shakespeare advertises a 5'6" micro cast rod

I agree with the spinning comment. I have 3 in my truck that I use for anything to fishing farm ponds to crawling along creeks and the new. I love using ugly stick ultralights. Best catch is a 6 pound channel cat.

I am not sure if the picture will work; if not I will post it when I get home. I got my first keeper sheepshead yesterday and managed another half dozen shorts along with one speckled trout and a handful of small sea bass and spot.

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What is the approach for those sheep? Are you just jigging/floating crabs around the pier pilings? Since the pic didn't come through, what is the size for keepers?

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Oysters- on tautogs rigs on the bottom. Keeper is 14 inches. Super light spinning rods like your walleye rod with 20lb braid and 25 lb fluoro. We have caught all of them on incoming by fishing away from the pillings and chumming them to us with oyster scraps. We have gone through $40 in oysters.

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Stopped by greentop today at 1 there were sooooo many people all week all fishing tackle is 15% off there bunch of odd specials too

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All on oysters- ended up with two keepers (14 inches plus) and a whole bunch of throwbacks.

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