With Trubisky making it official, the Coastal is wide open for 2017

Going into this past football season, there was one story that rang true for the ACC among college football enthusiasts... Holy crap did we have a nice stable of quality QBs. While the Atantic got the Heisman headlines with Watson and Jackson doing their thing, the Coastal more than held their own in their own right, and its entirely possible you'll see these Coastal QBs leading their future NFL teams to glory down the line. That said, you're about to see a whole slew of new faces next year.

Kaaya is gone. Evans is gone. Justin Thomas graduated. Peterman graduated. And now Trubisky has declared for the draft.

The Top 5 teams in the Coastal Division will be breaking in a new starting QB this Spring. Of the remaining two, Duke has question marks, with Jones playing well, but Sirk ready to come back. And UVa is UVa.

So for those worried that we're in a bad spot going into next year because Evans left, remember that everyone else in this division that matters will be going through the exact same thing next year. The division is wide open, but some would make the argue that even now, we're in a better spot going forward than our peers.

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remember that everyone else in this division that matters will be going through the exact same thing next year

Remember, Duke has more coastal crowns than Miami...

Remember, Duke has more coastal crowns than Miami, UVA, and Pitt combined...

FTFY

Been in Coastal a lot longer than Pitt Miami

Pitt yes, but Miami joined the ACC in 2004. Football divisions weren't formed until 2005.

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

Honestly this was one of my favorite seasons in some years. In retrospect, perhaps because I could listen to some of the national coverage folks and not be subjected to them constantly shitting on the Coastal...

@hokie_rd

I sure would have liked for Evans to stay another year, but que sera sera.

Man, I felt like if Evans came back for another year we were going to be a contender for making the playoffs.

I sure would have liked to have seen your theory tested.

sigh...

if only

Truly wide open, time for use to reassert ourselves as the dominant Coastal presence, even in a rebuilding/reloading year. We did it in 2008, let's do it again.

Bud is often really hard on new quarterbacks, and hopefully will be more so again next year they the other DC's can be on our new QB.

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

UVA with their 3 QBs...

Kurt Ben Kurt

You put those words together, those are my favorite words, Popeyes and bahama
- Mike Burnup

Duke's qb is Jones, you've got him as Johns, just a heads up.

I'm not really sure of what to think of the costal next season, obviously I'd like to think that it's ours for the taking...but we'll see.

Thanks. Apologies for fudging that up

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

Red Sox fan.....triggered!

Don't hate... appreciate

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

This will always be the best because #fuckarod

nuggie! nuggie!

Really he needs to see Dresser and learn how to reverse that head lock.

Where is Lawson?!

I HOPE ZACH BRITTON IS WELL RESTED!!!!!!

Huh, that's odd... I keep trying to find an Orioles WS title gif but I keep coming up with a 404 error. They must not have had those moving pictures back then

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

Last Orioles WS was 1983, the year of my birth. Are you calling me old, sir?

No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

We don't love dem Hoos.

Eventually you'll get there again, but from what I can see ya'll just don't know how to properly swing the bat anymore

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

Say what you want about the O's. I'm a Braves fan. lol

Though, speaking of the O's, I hope there are no legs behind us trying to land Matt Wieters.

No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

We don't love dem Hoos.

Nolan Ryan says "Get off my lawn!"

“You got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

Nolan Ryan is the best ever. He was like 45 when he whooped up on that dude.

Nolan Ryan will knock the dog shit out of you.

This thread's progression means we've entered the whole pre-baseball season. Hokie football is so far away now...

Sporting News is digging our 2017 squad. As far as the Coastal goes, I'd say Duke, VT, Da U, and GT are early favorites. UNCheat has to completely reload on offense, more than any other team in the division and they don't have a solid defense to fall back on like VT and Miami do. I think that Pitt will feel the affects of no Matt Canada rather harshly, and UVA is UVA as Andy Bitter put it.

In Sam Rogers we trust.

I think we have the potential to outdo what we did this year next year.

People forget how close Jackson was to beating out Evans for the starting QB spot this past summer. From what I have been told from those close, Jackson showed he was much better with the ball and didn't take as many chances as Evans did throughout the summer workouts, and one of the main reasons that they didn't play Jackson is the coaches thought it would be in his best interests to redshirt rather than play. Don't be surprised if he lights the Coastal on fire next season.

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

My concern isn't QB or even WR (I think Cam is a good first option and we have enough young guys that someone is sure to step up and be #2 and then there's " All-I-Do_Is-Score" Cunningham), it's OL that worries me. We weren't fantastic this year and we lose some guys off it with questionable backups that need to improve.

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Unfortunately Vice hasn't really impressed me and I think is a step back from Stacy Searels. I long for the day, when the offensive line coach isn't our liability.

In all fairness, it's hard to judge an OL coach after one year. Particularly when he's inheriting a bunch of guys he didn't recruit, many of whom are on their third different position coach. Fixing the OL takes time, maybe more so than any other position on the field since they have to work as a group. Even if Vice is an outstanding OL coach, it'll still take years of recruiting and training to improve the unit as a whole. If he's not, then we've got troubs.

Yes, agreed. I'm no expert but it seems to me o-line takes more time to develop and requires the most coordinated work. Stability at coaching is probably more important than the coach himself, unless he just sucks. I can't say of Searles is better than Vice or vice-versa (pun intended) but stability is probably more a factor there than which one.

We won't have a qb as rb to fall back on this year. If the running game doesn't get going I think we'll struggle to win 8 games. That said, I think the coaches will realize that and we'll a decent to very strong running game next year.

Assuming Jackson wins out the starting position, is he not a dual threat? I guess i don't know as much about him as i should, to be honest.

He is, but he probably cannot take the poundings that Evans took. I was pretty surprised that Evans went through the whole season relatively unscathed for running the the ball so much.

You will see this game, this upset and this sign next on ESPN Sportscenter. Virginia Tech 31 Miami 7

There were a few times where I was legitimately scared that he was going to miss some playing time. I think he hurt his ankle more than once throughout the course of the year. Tough SOB.

I can't remember when we didn't have a guy with balls of steel playing QB for the Hokies. I mean going back, the injuries that our starters have played through is one hell of an impressive list. I have no doubt that Jackson, Hooker, and those who follow are going to be cut from the same cloth. Its almost like a badge of courage to pick yourself up and keep going.

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

Yeah, no kidding.

Poor Brewer, ...that kid was murdered week in and week out.

The UVA streak would not exist if he wasn't a complete hardass.

And he played pretty good QB for us, especially all things considered. Wish he had been here his whole career. Who knows how last year would have gone if he was healthy.

Its almost like a badge of courage to pick yourself up and keep going.

Brewer is still my favorite "keeps getting back up" player, even though he was out for so long in 2015.

If you're reading the above post and thinking, "is this guy serious?!?," you can safely assume I'm not.

If you go back and watch Jackson's HUDL the thing that stuck out to me was how many big hits he took waiting to release the ball.. He seems like a really tough QB.

We weren't fantastic this year

or the year before or the year....

Where is Lawson?!

I think RB is the most unsettled position on the roster at the moment...McClease and Williams coming off injury; McKenzie hinting transfer; McMillian was wildly inconsistent; Fox and Reid unable to get PT from anyone in front of them.

Peoples replacing Rogers is the most predictable scenario in the backfield right now. After that its wide open.

normally, I'd agree, but our RB production was crap this year anyway so having question marks there is less unsettling. Now, the year after we lost David Wilson...

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I'm more worried about how we are going to run block for them. Half our problem last year was that our backs routinely had to break tackles at or behind the LOS stagnating our ability to get chunk gains.

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

That is definitely my hope. I was also impressed with Click the Walk On in his times during the spring. I think we hide the Hooker in the closet for this year.

Man, I am not looking forward to the efforts I'm going to have to undertake to find SFW gif when Hooker is starting for us. For that reason, I hope he redshirts and sits behind Jackson for at least another year or 2.

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

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Does your Hooker smell of whisky?

And feet?

I got you!

Man we recruited this guy?

Where is Lawson?!

I think we hide the Hooker in the closet

Man, if I had a dime for every time I've had to do that...

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Just roll em up in a carpet or rug then you can move them easily to the car for transport. That's what Archer taught me. If you leave them in the closet they start to stink, also they scratch up your door. It's just a hassle.

I'm not very proud by nature, but I do take pride in the fact that I have never had to hide a hooker in the closet for pocket change.

Leonard. Duh.

I dont think Jackson was that close to beating out Evans, unfortunately some of these competitions are manufactured. Doesnt make the coach a fake etc just sometimes needed sort of like how some dont disclose injuries etc. Hope im wrong

I wasn't there during practices to see for myself so I'll take coach's word for it

Semper Fi

I suppose we're going to find out this year.

Ive heard from a few ex-players who are still pretty close to the program, word on the street is there wasnt much separation. That was in the spring however, and I think Evans progressed and his Dual threat capability was better than expected.

We shall see this spring. Another year, another QB battle.

He threw a pretty ball at every scrimmage I got to.

JJ was the best QB at the Spring Game.

Second best. Click was the best, naturally.

If you're reading the above post and thinking, "is this guy serious?!?," you can safely assume I'm not.

Sadly, Click did look really good in the spring game. Granted it was against the third team...

But he might not be a bad backup this year if all else fails.

From your lips to the football gods ears

Semper Fi

Okay my thing about this is that sometimes these things don't translate to games. Two years ago, everyone and their mother thought Jeremy Johnson was going to be an absolute superstar, Cam Newton style player. Got benched two or three games in. And he'd actually seen the field and played well before! Setting these types of expectations isn't fair to Jackson, or the team in general. For every EJ Manuel > Jameis Winston transition there's a bunch of Tebow > John Brantley types (and yes people were saying Brantley would come in and light the world on fire)

Also, I'm going to miss using this gif:

-SKI

The smoothest QB transition should be Georgia Tech's, right? The way GT's offense gashed us with Matthew Jordan at the helm, I don't see the drop-off from Justin Thomas being that big.

I'm not happy about, but take the damn leg.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Yeah, but on the other hand, Jordan isn't an unknown commodity anymore.

Same story with James Summers between 15 and 16.

No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

We don't love dem Hoos.

Get ready for the ACC wheel of destiny next year:

#goacc

enjoy the ACC spotlight for the time being everybody.

How 'bout we not lose?

I'm looking forward to our team and Coaches exceeding expectations again next year. Always Go Hokies!

"Most students who are there want to be nowhere else... Once a Hokie, always a Hokie." - Chris Fowler

And that is what happens when you assume a rebuilding year features only underclassmen. I hope we play like a top 15 team off the bat next year, but I don't know how you can look at all our question marks and rank us #13

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It seems a little high, but I don't see a lot of teams below us with fewer holes and equal upside (my homer pick for dark horse playoff contender would be UGA).

13th is about where I rank VT if I buy the JJ/Evans battle last summer.

We should have a top 5-10 defense in the country next year...being optimistic, we could have an average offense if everything breaks the right way...best case scenario, we're like the '06 or '07 teams where we had a lights out defense and Sean Glennon/Freshman Tyrod manning an underwhelming offense

I wouldn't put us in the top 25 coming into next year unless Charlie Conway just goes ham in the spring game.

I don't think we take a step back. There are no more questions right now than this time last year.

If nothing else, we aren't installing a new offense in the spring. Players have been thru the winter S&C drills and know what is coming. All but a handful of EE's know the scheme on O and D.

All but a handful of EE's know the scheme on O and D.

so confused until I realized that EE =/= Electrical Engineer

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I realized that inequality fairly quickly, but I still can't figure out what it does mean...

Early Enrollee

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As this is a sophisticated football forum, a quick shout out to the title character of this post: Mitch Trubisky. I thought he was a really good dry weather QB and I expect big things from him for a domed NFL team.

Disregarding all games played in rain he is a top 3 pick this year

I hope he doesn't go to Seattle. Man, it rains there, like, all the time.

We put the K in Kwality

Deshaun Watson is now officially gone.

Where is Lawson?!

Nothing left for him to prove in the NCAA.

can someone explain why that wasn't targeting? That rule just confuses me

If a tree falls in Scott Stadium does it make a sound?

If SEC schools lay hits like that, it is referred to as hard-nosed, tough football..not targeting. It just means more PAWLLLL.

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

Sadly true. Targeting should have been called on Bama multiple times last last night. Both Mike Williams and Watson were repeatedly whacked in the head.

They need to clarify the targeting rules so that they can be somewhat fairly applied.

There were some ridiculous hits in that game that seemed to satisfy any criteria I've ever heard for targeting, including the "helicopter" hit on Watson.

If I remember the hit correctly, Bama's guy had his head up, see what you hit as they say. Still mighty close though.

see that little strip of white paint peeling off the CROWN of his helmet? That's precisely where he made contact with Watson's FACEMASK.

If that isn't targeting, I don't know what is

If a tree falls in Scott Stadium does it make a sound?

I think some people are reading too much into the "JJ almost won the starting job this year" component. I'm cautiously optimistic, but I have a hard time believing he can replicate what Evans achieved, at least not in his first year.

You're assuming we need replication for the offense to be successful. From everything we heard over the summer JJ was a better passer than Evans was, and will have had another year to learn the playbook even if he was just sitting on the bench. As long as Fuente and Cornelson can get some semblance of a ground game that isn't completely reliant on designed QB runs the offense should hum right along. Not to mention many spread offenses use the short passing/screen game to replicate the run game of typical pro style attacks.

The measurables are there. The question is how does he handle pressure under fire and been hit...and there is no way to know until it happens.

I was originally faulting Cornelson for some of our first half performances this year. My original thoughts were that he was incapable of making adjustments without Fuente. However, in rewatching some of the first half of the Belk Bowl it may be that Evans needed to be coached at the half on what he missed on the field. I distinctly remember one play where Hodges and Phillips are split to the boundary side and Isaiah Ford is split to the field side. As soon as the ball was hiked he turned his head and stared down Ford. Needless to say that play went nowhere. There are a few times this year where plays that were run in the first half that yielded nothing were successful in the second. Maybe Evans' biggest asset was his attitude and toughness and believe me those are huge assets but it is pretty clear he's a one read and run QB. There were plenty of times this year he did not find a wide open receiver that would have resulted in a huge play. So I'm going to reserve judgement on both Cornelson and Evans and see how things go with a different QB. Potentially one with better vision.