OT: Beer 2017

The second topic is now just over a year old. I decided to start a new one to aggregate beer posts for this year.

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VT will hold a course for 1 week starting the last week of January 2018 on the Business of beer. Some essentials on how to open a brewery.

The Facebook post is here.
The Business of Beer

I am pretty sure the business of beer is simple:
Buy beer
Open beer
Pour beer (optional)
Drink beer


Never Forget #1 Overall Seed UVA 54, #64 UMBC 74

Always a good idea.

Mannnn I wanted to go but couldn't make it.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

Yeah it went through Cincinnati this year and I ended up having to travel to Toledo (other end of the state) for a wife's family committment. Bummer I missed it.

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VT will hold a class on Sensory and beer with the American Society of Brewing Chemists. It is open to the public.

ASBC Southeast LABS Meeting
We are pleased to announce our second ASBC LABS to be held in the Southeast area. Come and join us for an evening of science, beer, and friendship at Virginia Tech!

Participants will have the opportunity to network amongst brewers and industry suppliers, as well as attend a sensory training as well as two technical presentations from sensory science professionals. Topics to be covered include: options for setting up a sensory program for a small craft brewery and statistical analysis of sensory data for quality control. Dinner will be provided. Space is limited!

Virginia Tech Food Science & Technology Department
Human Agriculture & Biosciences Building 1
1230 Washington St. SW
Blacksburg, VA 24061

Tuesday, August 15, 2017
5.00–10:00 p.m.
How Much?
ASBC members: $20
Non-members: $50
ASBC Membership + LABS registration: $213
ASBC Student Membership + LABS registration: $76

Register HERE

Sponsorship Opportunities

5:00–5:30 p.m.
Welcome and beverages

5:30–6:45 p.m.
Sensory Training for Off-Flavors
Caroline Parnin, Lallemand Brewing

Dinner and drinks in the pilot plant

7:45–9:00 p.m.
Sensory Programs for Small Craft Breweries
Anna Sauls, Highland Brewing

Sensory Stats for Smaller Breweries: Exploring True-To-Brandness
Alex Hazelmyer, New Belgium Brewing

Speaking of great beer, my homebrew club competition is coming up. It is a keg entry competition so it turns into a mini beer festival afterwards. Ship a keg and stay in the hotel to sample off the 226 (currently) kegs after the comp! I have 4 entered.


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I forgot to enter the Dominion Cup this year. Was the only one I was planning to enter. Won a category last year, so I should have followed up. Oh well.

So, it's getting to be football season. And visits to the Burg will be happening.
And in the interim, new beers are released along the way.
So, anyone interested in trading some stuff prior to a game?
I have access to RAR and Burley Oak. And I know I'll be down for the Oct 21 game against UNCheat.
I don't expect the Aug 26 releases to hold up until that time...2 months is a good while for fresh hops and fresh fruit juice in sours...but something to keep in mind. And opening it up for others. You guys have Answer and Veil readily available, and hopefully Aslin can figure out their canning issues...

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The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

YES. Very Interested and will also be in town for UNCheat. Hit me with a DM on the twitters

Burley Oak has some really interesting stuff going on. Especially if you're into sours. I'm not personally, but they have some killer IPAs and pale ales.

i like their ipas, rar is md is better, but the sour jream series at burley oak is fantastic.


"My advice to you... is to start drinking heavily."-John Blutarsky

I let the anaerobic soak (RAR/DFH colab) sit for a bit and it got a ton better. Went from a lagersih mouthfeel to a softer, pillowy hazy NEIPA type taste. I've got a few left, so that's good. (But I don't expect them to be good in 2 months...)

The IPA's from Burley are typically strong. But I have to admit I'm a RAR fanboy. Work in Cambridge, so support them as much as I can. They've used vanilla in the last 2 releases and I'm really digging it.

I'll see if I can get some Burley sours. I won't be drinking them, but fro trade with you guys.

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Oh totally. RAR and Evo are better imo. I'm not a sour person but they've got some interesting stuff with the Jream series. I did reallllly like the Homegrown session, Savage DIPA, and the Pale Ryeder (in a big fan of Rye though).

I was out that way last month for work and made the mistake of stopping by Tall Tales Brewing.. not a fan. Food was awesome but the beer was not good in my opinion.

I'm so disappointed. I live within 3 miles of TT. Was hoping they'd get it together...but...
The pizza is THE best around. But hard to stay for it when there's nothing to drink.

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The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Dude, I would do many things for another one of those shrimp scampi pizzas. Holy shit that was delicious.

The beer all either had no flavor, tasted like weird bubble gum, or dirty fruit water. The Red Headed Step Child was the best I came across and it was 'meh'.

I work just down the street from Aslin and have been hitting them up more frequently now as it seems their quality control isses have subsided. Double Orange Starfish was absolutely insane. Definitley down for a TKP trade on fresh releases when that game gets closer.

North Carolina beer-related:

I live in Raleigh and love the beer here (Big Boss, Lonerider, Lynnwood Brewing are my faves). It's a huge market, with probably 40+ breweries between Raleigh-Durham and the surrounding 'burbs. I'm interested to see how the NC beer actually compares to other states' markets, like Chicago, Cali, etc.

Has anyone outside of NC found a really good NC beer that they love?

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

I haven't tried much beer from in/around the Triangle, but Charlotte has some killer brews. Wooden Robot, NoDa, and Ass Clown are my personal favorites down there in South Virginia

i won't try ass clown because of the name.


"My advice to you... is to start drinking heavily."-John Blutarsky

Understandable, but it's definitely worth the visit. They do a lot of experimental stuff. I had a brown ale there that was aged over cigar boxes that blew my mind

I'm with you. There are too many choices out there now to be their name. If there were 3 options in town, maybe you'd have to pop in. But with soooo many, I can forgo it and not feel like I missed out.

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Funny story, I have a 4 pack of it on it's way to me now...we shall see if the goodness of the beer trumps over the name.

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

What's the 4-pack?

2 IPA, 2 Orange Citrus IPA, plus some Burials.

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@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Gotcha. Those are good, not great. Whatever you have from Burial will definitely be better. The best stuff I had from Ass Clown wasnt in big enough batches to can/bottle. They did have a sea salt porter in bottles back in the spring that I thought was really good though

The reg IPA was pretty good. Solid shelfie beer for sure. Wouldn't go out of my way to get it, but wouldn't be adverse to drinking it again for sure.
(Haven't touched the Burial yet...)

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The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Burial's doing a Tap Takeover at The Answer here in Richmond this Thursday. I can't wait

The ghost pepper IPA was my go to on my way home from work when I lived in cornelius. It's an experience you can't get anywhere else. The small batch stuff that you can only get at the brewery are the best.

Head over to Asheville and if we are talking Burial and Green Man then its on. So good.

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The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Green Man IPA and ESB are stellar

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

I know Lonerider has been on taps throughout Virginia for a while. I think at least Cabo in Blacksburg still has Sweet Josie and a rotating seasonal on tap.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Sweet Josie usually shows up a few places in Roanoke. It's also almost always on tap at the Tap House in Daleville. By the way if you guys haven't been to Ballast Point in Botetourt (5 min from Tap House) its pretty sweet. I'm not a fan of all of their beers, but they usually have 4-5 that are good and the restaurant, patios, etc are first class. Twin Creeks in Vinton is pretty good as well.

They're having a Sour beer event at Ballast on the 20th. I plan to go. I love a good sour, and their Sour Wench fits the bill.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

I went to the Sour Wench event where I live in San Diego. It's delicious. Highly recommend if they're going to do it at their east coast venues.

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4-5 that are good

I can name 6 variations of sculpin that are delicious (Regular, Grapefruit, Habanero, PIneapple, unfiltered, and on nitro). Ballast Point has over 20 good beers at any given time, including several R&D.

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I finally made the pilgrimage to BP in San Diego in July. 2 days before the sour wench event. It was amazing. Discovered my wife is allergic to something in the watermelon dorado. She was fine after some Benadryl, but it was so good she would drink it again.

Nice. That's true commitment. I imagine this may what it's like at your next visit to BP.

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Found some Watermelon Dorado in cans at the local Lowe's Foods in Mooresville. Jumped on it and the good news is, my wife didn't have an allergic reaction.

Bad news is that it tastes so much better at BP than in a can.

Bond Brothers was really solid and i like Trophy too. I want to try Barrel Culture ... for wild/sour nerds their game is supposedly on de Garde level.

i've had or been to a few in Asheville and CLT too. Hitting Heist and Wooden Robot next weekend to dive deeper.

That said, in humble opinion RVA is the beer capital of the mid atlantic.


"My advice to you... is to start drinking heavily."-John Blutarsky

Triple Crossing is my favorite brewery in RVA.

Anyone been to Pen Druid in Sperryville? They do a lot of cool wild yeast and barrel fermentation stuff.

I'm surprised you'd say that. I've been to Hardywood, Legend, Stone (not really rva original) and a few of the cideries in downtown and they've all been good but not great. Which ones are the best?

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

Try The Veil and The Answer

1-0 every week

Triple Crossing, Final Gravity to add to the above.

tcb interstellar burst is amazing.


"My advice to you... is to start drinking heavily."-John Blutarsky

I preferred the ivory tower but that entire release on Friday was phenomenal

haven't tried that yet, have cans tho.


"My advice to you... is to start drinking heavily."-John Blutarsky

Just got these cans as well (Interstellar and Ivory) - but had both yesterday while in TCB - both very good.

(Side note to you BCO- apologize in all my untappd checkins on your feed for 6:30am on a Monday morning - catching up from Forever Summer haha).

ha, i do that shit all the time to people.

just mad i couldn't go.


"My advice to you... is to start drinking heavily."-John Blutarsky

This inspired me to crack a can. Kind of funny so many of us were unwittingly at the same place on Friday

i got there about 2, saw a couple vt cars in the lot.


"My advice to you... is to start drinking heavily."-John Blutarsky

the veil - ipas, goses, milk choc stout and we haven't even seen their 2nd act, traditional sours.
triple crossing - ipas, berliners
the answer - ipas, super rich stouts and heavy fruited berliners
final gravity - ipas
hardywood during imperial milk stout releases

they have a couple new spots out that i need to try like vasen.

the first 3 are cutting edge and beer nerds trade like crazy for their stuff. i guess it all depends on what you are looking for in your beer.


"My advice to you... is to start drinking heavily."-John Blutarsky

In my opinion you have yet to go to a top 8 brewery in the city limits (Hardywood excepted, but I'm biased because they have a great scene and live music, and I'm not counting Stone). Already been metioned, but
Tripe Crossing
The Veil
The Answer
Plenty others that are merely good (7 Hills is the only one I'd consider bad) but those top 3 are incredible (especially if you like IPAs).
I keep having good beers from Steam Bell and Kindred Spirits as well but haven't visited yet.

Not Raleigh, but outside of Charlotte is D9. Their sour beer is incredible. They harvest the yeast and microbes locally. Just started distributing some beer into my area (DC). It's really fantastic stuff. Top knotch sours.

"That move was slicker than a peeled onion in a bowl of snot." -Mike Burnop

I 2nd D9 for the sours. Not a huge fan of their ipas, but there's no finer sour beers anywhere.

Good to know - haven't heard of them until you guys mentioned something. Cheers!


"We were at the pinnacle, and we did it for years," Foster says. He pauses, nods, takes a deep breath. "And I did it with the best guy in the business."

I have spent almost $45 on two different mixed 12 packs of Stone IPA in the last week. I regret nothing.

That team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I've seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked.

Ruination. Freakin' delicious!

Which Ruination?

Heading to Half Acre and Lagunitas in Chicago this weekend. Can't wait!

Little Bobby Tables told me my signature was false

Revolution Brewing in Chicago makes some good brew (good food too)

Revolution came down to Cincy for the FC Cincinnati vs Chicago Fire Gold Cup match and had a little competition with local brewery Madtree that the loser of the game had to donate a dollar for every can sold at the pregame festivities to a charity of the other brewery's choice. Win-win all around as I got to get my hands on several awesome Revolution beers and FCC pulled out the win in shootout. Good stuff up there at Revolution.

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If you see anything 3 Floyds you should give that a try, too.

Recruit Prosim

I'm a huge three floyds fan. Zombie Dust is one of my favorite beers.

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Me and the wife got tickets to the members only session at the Great American Beer Festival in Denver. 800 Breweries serving 3,800 beers! I seriously have no idea where to start with this one.

It is intimidating when you walk into the festival. Your mind tells you to drink all the beer but have some self control and pace yourself. Definitely eat before hand and drink water during the event, you'll thank me later!

1-0 every week

Its cheesy, but make yourself a pretzel necklace. Yes, its sounds stupid, but I've started doing this at festivals and regret nothing.

At GABF you'll feel stupid if you DON'T have a food necklace. Last time I was there people had lots of other shit like beef jerky and cheese sticks strung on them too.

Old sigline: I've been cutting back on the drinking.

New Sigline: lol it's football season.

Stopped by Dogfish while I was in DE for work last week and picked up a bottle of Oak Ages Vanilla World Wide Stout.

I like the normal WWS but I'm usually pretty iffy on their higher percentage beers (i.e. 120 min.) I know you're technically supposed to age then but I don't have the patience for that. Should be an interesting endeavor this weekend.

If you get a chance, try the B*thces Brew. Killer.
(And I have an '08 WWS I'm going to open possibly for the WVU game. THAT should be interesting.)

And if anyone is on the shore, hit me up!!!!! I'm around, and only an hour from DFH. Less to Burley, Evo, RAR...

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@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Bitches brew is great. My favorites of theirs I can't find anywhere around dc - 75 min IPA and Burton Baton. I really wanted to like the Palo Santo, but it's a little too rich for my blood.

Not sure where you are in DC, but I'm almost 100% positive that Fenwick Beer & Wine in Silver Spring regularly stocks Burton Baton. Great little store, btw, even being limited by MoCo beer laws.

I've only ever had 75 minute at the DFH brewhouse, where they just mixed draft 60 & 90 minute 50/50.

9 yo 120 was AMAZING


"My advice to you... is to start drinking heavily."-John Blutarsky

Fresh 120 is one of the only beers I have ever poured out. That one was rough for me.

Just cracked the WWS open a little while ago and hot damn it's good. A little thick because of the high % but it is a very good slow supper. I'll definitely be picking up another bottle or so. Might try to see if I can keep one for a while and let it age.

Speaking of beer: anyone going to Veil Forever Summer Fest tomorrow?

went last yr and was great. can't this yr as it's 90 mins away and I'm single parenting. adulting can be hard. enjoy.


"My advice to you... is to start drinking heavily."-John Blutarsky

Have heard nothing but great things about last years' event - looking forward to it!

How was it?

It was very good - and a very nicely run event. They had a total of 31 different beers, and I made it to 15 of them, as some where giving more than 3oz on the pours.

My top 3 were (in no order):

Adult Human - Trillium
Galaxy DDH Juicy Bits - Weldwerks
Funky Blender - Casey

Nothing Gold from Bissell could be thrown in there as well.

The surprise of the show had to be Final Gravity Scentifical Madness - that was one of the beers that a lot of people were chatting about.

BOLO for the new Independent craft brewery seal on packaging. Its basically to distinguish real craft breweries from the one's ABInBev have purchased and disguise as craft.

To qualify as craft, a brewery must meet the following criteria:


Annual production of 6 million barrels of beer or less (approximately 3 percent of U.S. annual sales). Beer production is attributed to the rules of alternating proprietorships.


Less than 25 percent of the craft brewery is owned or controlled (or equivalent economic interest) by an alcohol industry member that is not itself a craft brewer.


A brewer that has a majority of its total beverage alcohol volume in beers whose flavor derives from traditional or innovative brewing ingredients and their fermentation. Flavored malt beverages (FMBs) are not considered beers.

It's free for a company to register for it and many bottle and can companies have agreed to allow breweries to change their packaging without a fee to add the seal.

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And it's almost necessary due to the AB distributors getting to set the grocery shelves. It used to be they segregated what AB own. Now they intersperse it.

Additionally RIP Blank Slate Brewing Co here in Cincinnati, first craft brewery of the recent resurgence to close it's doors. Made awesome beers with unusual ingredients, but didn't have the location to build up a customer base like many of the other breweries. The owners are longtime homebrewers that made it big for awhile and hopefully they land at another brewery and keep churning out great beers.


Come to Blacksburg and see what the Hokie Pokie is really all about

Went to Total Wine to get a box of wine.

$200 later...

That's a lot of boxes of wine. Slap the bag for days.

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A few boxes, rest of it was beer.

Fall seasonal beers are popping up. It's officially football season my fellow Hokies

Got my Octoberfest in the secondary fermenter the other day. Hoping it will be ready by the Clemson game

One day I'll venture out and start making my own beers.... One day

Who is on Untappd?

My username is Lespaulkid01. Add me!

never heard of it ... 5600+ checkins later. lol


"My advice to you... is to start drinking heavily."-John Blutarsky

I'm headed to FedEx Field this weekend from RVA. I'll have some local beers with me including some from this week's Veil release if anyone is interested in a trade.

i've been sitting on my last uncle cousin for a month now for this ... lol.


"My advice to you... is to start drinking heavily."-John Blutarsky

Founders released a barrel aged malt liquor coming in hot at 14.2% abv. Not the easiest at first but finishes like chocolate.

Recruit Prosim

Does anyone have an official tailgating beer for the Fall? (apologies if this was already asked).

Ours is Bell's Best Brown Ale. It was on tap at OSU's student union in 2014 and we drank it all day before beating them that night. I'm typically a fan of hops, but nothing beats the football memories that come with that brown ale. Plus, its a damn good brown ale.

If you check the Six Pick thread each week, typically a few of us will post our choice for that weekend. Some have a standard, but some switch each week, give what's fresh, time of year, opponent, etc.

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@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Nope, not for the entire fall. But Deschutes just opened their Roanoke tap room this week, so I've got my growlers in the car ready to stop by this weekend for my first fills there. Will be taking those to FedEx.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

No particular brewery or beer, I go more by general styles... and things kick off with Oktoberfest. Varies a little from brewery to brewery, but generally they're flavorful without being too heavy that you can't enjoy several in one sitting. Later in the season as Oktoberfests clear off the shelves I make the switch to brown ales, porters, Belgian dark ales... every now and then an IPA sneaks into the cooler.

Have things lined up to go down to the Burg for the UNC game Oct 21.
RAR and Burley are doing releases next weekend, so 4 weeks before the game. I should have a few goodies from those releases left to bring down for trading. If you see something you really want, drop me a line and we can work something out if you are going to the UNC game. bjettmccrone on the gee mail thing.

Also have Evolution, DFH, and some others around if you truly want something outside of those two... Dewey Beer Co is just killing the NEIPA game right now, but they only do crowlers, and it's an hour from me.

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The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Evolution makes some tasty beers, you see Chincoteague and Cape Charles are getting breweries now too?

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Cape Charles should be legit. They spent a good amount of time and money figuring it out. Hopefully Chincoteague won't be on the level of the OC breweries. They aren't very good to say the least. (Well, Fin City's canned offerings aren't bad, but the rest of the lot...)

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Yeah, I'm just bummed that the Cape Charles one is coming long since I stopped working in Cape Charles, and living on the shore.

Oh well, got some breweries in my current location as well.
I'll be at the UNC game as well.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

To those that will be at the UNC game Oct 21...I am headed to the Burg.
There is a RAR release this weekend. And the great thing about their releases is the ticket system.
If any of you beer peeps wants some, you can buy your ticket, email it to me, I will pick it up, and will be in Blacksburg on the 21st for pickup. Beers will be kept cold until the 21st. Here is the link for the tickets.
Slip Ons was absolutely fantastic last time. Didn't get any Lumber Sexual before, but the hop bill is lighter for this one and should be a great October drinker. And the BA 1st Meal was awesome, and everyone claims the plain is better.

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@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

I won't be at the UNC game, but I'll be in Salisbury on Wednesday for work - do you happen to know if Evo has switched off of their summer seasonals yet? I stopped by twice this summer and am trying to decide if I should bring my growler and swing by again, or just wait until next time.

Still haven't been to Rar, so i could always try that too before heading back across the bridge..

I think the summers are fading away. The had a NEIPA style called Derek's Day off that wasn't bad. Not top tier, but their first run at it and it's ok. The Lot 6 is still bingo imho. And the Lot 3 is really good. I think they have Jacques O Lantern on as well as Lucky 7. Specific Gravity is their pizza joint, and has all the Evo's on as well as like 15 others...with good pizza.

RAR will do growlers and crowlers of almost everything they have on now since the new release beers aren't tapped yet. Worth popping in. The Country ride is a solid crushable pale, and the Nectar is my fav IPA. Unfortunately I've got to be in Salisbury not Cambridge Wednesday afternoon or I'd meet you there for one.

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The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

awesome, thanks for the info.

Last I was there was the end of June and they were still tapping the Sprung and Pine'Hop'le. I really like the Lot 6 too, but my favorite of thiers is the Pecan Brown ale I think. I havent had the Jacques O Lantern, but I'm not sure it's worth the stop for one beer. I guess we will see how I feel Wednesday afternoon. Might just stop at Rar.

If you like pumpkin beers, it's good, maybe even great. I just can't look at them anymore.
I think RAR should have 10 layer on now too. Maybe even Hyde. Never are available for crowler/growler fills, but I really like the Hyde this go around.

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@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Does RAR release cans every weekend?

Does Burley Oak do regular releases? If so, when?

Def want to get some from you, but I want to make sure I'm paying attention to what's coming.

RAR is about 4-6 weeks between releases. Burley runs a similar schedule for the most part. Just so happens that the last 2 and the next one have all landed on the same day. Works for both since Burley is a line and RAR is tickets. People from B'more side can come down to Burley, get theirs, then just pick up with ticket from RAR.

I'm afraid the next RAR one might be when I'm in Blacksburg, but here's hoping it's the following weekend or even pushed a little back into November.

Here's Burley's release for Sept 23. Good shot I'll be able to pick up some of these after the RAR release. Headed to Cambridge at 9am for RARtoons, and live about 15 minutes away from Burley. At each release, they have a poster for the next release. Typically it's not posted unless you have insider info when they will be.

The JREAMS are good if you like sours. Not my cup of tea, but are very trade-able. Some peeps go crazy over them. I will say that 4 weeks from pick-up to delivery is pushing the limit on these. The Denalaxy sounds good, close to the Citralaxy that was amazeballs.

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Good to know, expect an email with my ticket for the RAR and I'll DM you on twitter about the Burley Oak.

I'll double down on what nerf is putting out there. If anyone is interested in Veil (or TCB/Answer) beers, I'll be at the UNC game as well. Same deal, everything will be kept cold til it gets to you in Blacksburg.

Tomorrow's Veil Release:
We Ded Mon(100% Citra Triple IPA)-My Favorite of their TrIPAs. Citra on Citra on Citra. Holds up well over time. I've had one 3 months old that still tasted great. But beware, it's a Triple IPA that drinks more like a DIPA. I have gotten a solid buzz from drinking just a couple of these juice bombs in half an hour. $17+tax/4-pack

Crucial Taunt3(Crucial Taunt Cubed/Triple dry-hopped DIPA)-Triple Dry hopped version of their flagship. Tastes great fresh, but this one has fallen off hard in the past. I wouldn't recommend it if you're getting these a month from now. $19.50+tax/4-pack

IREALLYdontwanttoBU(DDH 0 IBU IPA w/Citra+Mosaic)-I can't hype this one enough. Maybe my favorite Veil IPA, period. This series of "Zero IBU" IPAs that they make is amazing and they also will hold up well over the month. $15+tax/4-pack

Too Far Outta Sight(Citra/Nelson DIPA)-I don't remember this one from its previous release. Veil kills the DIPA game, but this one must not have set itself apart from the rest of their DIPAs, I guess. $16.50+tax/4pack

They do releases every Tuesday, and I should be able to make it to any and all of them between now and then, if the demand is there.

Yeah, email me before you buy tix...could work out some stuff maybe...

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@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

will do

Anyone interested in doing a mini bottle/can share at a tailgate prior to the UNC game?

I wanted to make sure this wasn't a nooner before I brought it up. Already had plans to trade some with vtnerf prior to this game, so I'll have those cans along with an assortment of RVA brews to share with any of you beautiful people who would like to join.

Might be able to make it...
I'll know more soon.
There will be some goodies there for sure. Not necessarily whales, but good stuff anyway.

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

No worries. Just pitching it out there. I still gotta get a parking pass

With a 330 kick, after the game might be an option also...

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The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

That would be a pretty good way to let the traffic settle down a bit before leaving town

Where are you gonna be tailgating at?

Still up in the air. I'll keep you posted though

So I have one of those beer cap maps of the united states where I place beer caps of breweries in their respective areas on the map. I have gotten everything except all of those states around Montana and North Dakota. How the hell should I go about filling these missing pieces while in VA?

Any help would be appreciated, I'm just a man on a mission.

-Stick it in

Roadtrip to Yellowstone? Or is that just a really long B double E double R UN? Sounds like fun either way. Tho you might find an online beer of the month club from around there. I've had good luck getting craft bourbon and gin delivered that way. Not cheap, but cheaper than a hotel room.

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

I have one of these as well.. Sounds like you've done a lot better than me though. I stalled out hard after filling up West Coast, Colorado, and everything East of the Mississippi..
I don't think I have ever seen a bottle from Kansas, OK, Nebraska, or either of the Dakotas at any grocery/beer store or bar.

I'd like to announce that I have halted the search for the property to open my own brewery and that I am assigned the Head Brewer at Chaos Mountain brewing. I've been working turnover there for 2 months,

Have fun.

Sooooooo TKP has an official beer sponsor and if you join TKPC you get a complimentary Key Play growler?

Here lies It's a Stroman Jersey I Swear, surpassed in life by no one because he intercepted it.

I'm not sure the boss can swing all that. It's an interesting thought though.
Give me some time, it's going to be very busy here for a bit.
Lots of expansion and upgrades happening. I'm sure I'll get a reminder.

I was almost 100% joking but this would be so cool if it happened. I'd pay pretty good money for a TKP growler

Here lies It's a Stroman Jersey I Swear, surpassed in life by no one because he intercepted it.

It's not a bad idea. I'll talk to Joe about cross promotion. I'll dig into that a bit.

What I know I CAN do is bring a bunch of Chaos Mountain Brewery cozies to the Pitt game and offer anyone that stops by a cozie. I know I have an order in for that.

Maybe we can work out a pre-order thing for Chaos -TKP growlers and combine it with a regular order from the brewery to keep the cost down. It won't be this football season though. But lemme talk with Joe before we get too far into expectations here.

By the way, you are assigned to remind me of this in the spring.

I'll do my best

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"My advice to you... is to start drinking heavily."-John Blutarsky

Thanks. Not my first trip around this woodshed.

Watched the game at Macado's in Blacksburg last Friday with some friends and my wife's extended family. Went home with several pint glasses including one from Chaos Mountain. It is my new favorite glass.

Aaaaaand with the discussions on last night's game happening I think it's time we discuss something almost all of us agree is accurate.

Beer is good.

There's a spate of new stuff coming out with the change of the seasons.
Tell me what's new that you liked. I would but the hours have been very long lately and haven't had the opportunity to get anything except from my brewery.

About 2 weeks ago I was at several of the openings for Big Lick Brewing Co in Roanoke. Their opening offerings were pretty good. Apparently they are having problems keeping up with demand for their New England IPA.

Also, the first beer brewed at the tasting room at Deschutes was released this week but on,y lasted a day. I did not get the chance to try that one.

Big Lick is a cool spot and exactly what Roanoke needed from a local brewery. We stopped in on the Friday before the UNC game, and walked out with a 4 pack of the White Bronco NE IPA. It's a very solid beer - an easy 4.25 for sure on Untappd for anyone on there.

Yes, it's a solid spot.
The only thing I wish for my brewery is that it was closer to more dense population. It has its advantages in that the community is very close knit.

One of BLBCs saisons is quite good as well, the name escapes me right now.

I was super impressed with Big Lick, might have crossed paths with you because I was there the night before the UNC game as well.

The White Bronco is a solid offering for sure.

We stopped in Sunday afternoon after Victory at Sea Day. (That Ballast location is gorgeous!) Big Lick looks exactly how I would expect a micro brew pub owned by Hokies would look. And that's a good thing.

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

I was starting to feel like I was getting over the whole hazy-juice-bomb-IPAs but then I had Wherever I May Roam from Triple Crossing and it's probably the best in the style I've had in a very long time from a brewery that was already doing that style better than anyone in VA (sorry Veil, Aslin, et al).

Take all my legs. TCB deserves way more hype than they get, but I'm selfishly glad that they're still kind of RVA's little secret because Veil releases have gotten out of hand.

They were the first craft brewery I ever fell in love with. They've really put in some work and impress me more and more with every batch they brew.

TCB is owned by a Hokie too... I have been trying to get them to be the RVA TKP sponsor but no luck yet. Maybe next season.

Yup, even more reason to support them, and that would be pretty awesome.

I've failed to make it to TCB for a football game so far this season, but I get too emotional to watch our football games at a bar anyway. I'll definitely be there for at least a couple Buzzketball games this season though.

I believe all three owners are Hokies. I know Adam and Scott are at least.

I've been working on getting them to at least do a Hokie-themed beer. No luck yet, but they've been my favorite for awhile now. And the Out of the Blue Porter was incredible as well.

Twin Creeks in Salemhad their 1st anniversary party Saturday they're open again today (Sunday).
They released a couple new beers 🍻 for the anniversary. I might stop by today on my way home from the market.

Olde Salem Brewery on Main St finished their acceptance checkout on their new equipment and brewed 5 batches which are fermenting now.

I do not know if they've released their official opening date but, it'll be between Thanksgiving and Christmas, probably. I'll ask Kevin and post the date on the board here.

If anyone is gonna be at Triple Crossing for the East Coast Covenant tomorrow, come say what up. I'll be the guy watching the game on my phone as I move from station to station.

we can't wait to pour our brand new Triple IPA.

This depresses me because that sounds amazing but I found out a few months ago that I am all the sudden crazy allergic to hops. I drink an IPA now and my head inflates to the size of Violet Beauregarde and my eyes turn into a waterfall.

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

Damn man that blows, I'll pour one out for you.....into my mouth

I appreciate your condolences. It's given me a chance to expand my palate. I'm really into Stout's and Tripel's now.

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

Ugh. Sorry my man. How do the new dry hopped hazy IPA's treat you? Worse or better?

I had a buddy that was I guess allergic to hops. He would start sneezing if the IBU's were too high. We grabbed a pitcher of some double high IBU IPA at one point and he said he had to try it. I bet he sneezed 200 times in the next hour. I couldn't imagine...

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

This oddly sounds like my wife, to a lesser degree. I'll have to inform her.

Thanks, I'll have to give those a shot and see how I react. I did try Sierra Nevada's Fresh Hop IPA this weekend and didn't have an issue, so maybe I'm making a turn for the better. What would be a good dry hopped hazy IPA?

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

You'd prob have to get straight at the source for a really good.
(double) dry hopped brew. Typically called out as DDH. Look for something called hazy or North East IPA (NEIPA).
But is the Fresh Hop treated you right, you might not want to try the dry hopped...as they use lupulin powder. Maybe the straight fresh hops treat you well and the pellets are what give you fits.

Look for some

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The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Will do, thanks for the info.

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

Damn and I drank that Fresh Squeezed right beside you Friday night. You should've told me haha.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

You should've just known ya jerk. Ha, no it's only if I drink it - the aroma doesn't affect me.

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

Cheers fellow Hokies!

nice bottle opener, now that you have one you can upgrade to beers that don't have twist-off caps...

LOL. I realized this when I was taking the pic, but I didn't have any other beer in the house, and my bottle opener had just come in

Hey Egbert, shoot me an email at bjettmccrone on the gee mail thing. If you would kind sir.

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The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Sure. I just saw this Sat AM. Doing it now.

I haven't seen it mentioned yet, but Port City Long Black Veil is a good brew. It's only available on draft at the brewery or local restaurants. If you like Black IPAs it's worth the trip to the brewery to get a growler filled.


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“When life knocks you down plan to land on your back, because if you can look up, you can get up, if you fall flat on your face it can kill your spirit” David Wilson

the Munich Dunkel is another tasty draft-only Port City offering for those looking for more malt / less hop. Both the Long Black Veil and Munich Dunkel (new this year) are fall/winter seasonals.

Viceland's Beerland is returning for Season 3 and looking for HOMEBREWERS in the SOUTHWEST VIRGINIA area! If chosen, participants have the opportunity to win $10,000 and have their beer packaged and distributed in Los Angeles!

If you are interested in applying (or getting more info), email the Casting Producer, Tina Logie at TinaLogieCasting@gmail.com.
Good luck!

No one wants to watch me homebrew. The only thing entertaining would be me hitting a pipe that hangs too low in my space. I hit it almost every time I'm in the room.

The only thing entertaining would be me hitting a pipe

Well, the show is on Viceland

For all the stout drinkers I will leave a recommendation for Prairie Artisan Ales Bomb! and Christmas Bomb! One of the few stouts I will pay $9 for a 12oz bottle.

These have been showing up at a few stores around Northern VA. Can certainly endorse for this recommendation - Dilly Dilly!

I'll have to give it try, thanks for the recommendations. Love me some stouts.

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

If anyone happens to have an extra Kentucky Christmas morning, and would be able to meet me in Blacksburg this weekend, it would be awesome!!!!

Headed down to get away for a minute, and hit Victory at Seas day at Ballast on Sunday. Should be a good time.

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

@BetaETA576 - Have you seen KCM in stores down in Richmond? Heard Wegman's in Short Pump was carrying BBAGBS at one point by the cases.

The KCM is being put out today. Wegmans was supposed to get the lion's share along with Total Wine.

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The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Not in stock yet or maybe already sold out at Wegmans Short Pump just now. Gonna swing by again tomorrow to check again

Reminder: today is December 20th and for beer lovers that means Victory At Sea Day. Here is a list of locations nationwide where this event is happening:


Daleville's was Sunday. At it was a killer time!

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The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Cracking open the Starr Hill winter variety pack. Started with their Snow Blind Doppelbock. Highly recommend. Great version of this style. Complex with a malt forward taste, lots of chocolate, bread, and dark fruit notes. At 7.7%, not sure I'd want to drink a sixer and attempt Christmas with the in laws, but definitely a good choice for winter.

I'll come back and give my thoughts on the other three varieties in this pack if I'm able.

Merry Christmas everybody!

Yeah the doppelbock is far and away my favorite of the star hill brews. The rest are solid but that one is a fantastic sit by the fire, do a crossword beer.

Here lies It's a Stroman Jersey I Swear, surpassed in life by no one because he intercepted it.

So in October my new boss wanted to test me for creativity.
He asked me, on a Thursday night to come up with a new beer idea by Friday morning.

As I'm checking my supplies for Saturday's game, where I'm responsible for the Irish coffee, it occurred to me that we've got a great coffee stout, why not make some of it an Irish coffee stout.

So I tell the boss next morning my idea. Thus, the concept is born.
We got Jameson's oak and took 7 barrels of beer and soaked it until it was ready. The official release of the Chaos Mountain Irish coffee stout is this Thursday. In time for the bowl game.

Wait wait wait. WAIT!

You work at Chaos Mountain?

If yes, I want to send a heartfelt thank you for the deliciousness that is Squatch Ale. Many a weekend evening ended in mild incoherence due to a 6 pack of that brew. Amazing stuff.

I'm the head brewer.

If you like the Squatch, you'll love this.
We took the Squatch and put it in a bourbon barrel from A. Smith Bowman and aged it.

It's only going to be available at the Chaos Mountain tasting room and Fifth and Federal Station. It's going to be officially released early Jan 2018. It's very good.

Oh God...

EDIT: I'm not sure which is more challenging for my pea brain to reconcile...that my favorite beer's brewer is an esteemed member of this amazing community, or that I will soon be enjoying my favorite beer aged in the vessel formerly containing my favorite spirit.

Thanks, man. It's cool.

Jack Brown's in Roanoke had the Dogfish 120 minute IPA on tap starting 5 pm yesterday.
I had 2 glasses. It's different again this year. More bitterness, less residual sugar.
I did not like it as much as previous years.

i've decided to only drink 120 if it's at least 7 yrs old. same for world wide stout and raison d'extra.


"My advice to you... is to start drinking heavily."-John Blutarsky

I think you are on to something there.
This one would benefit from some aging. Knock some of the bitter edge off and bring some complexity t it.

I swear they have changed the recipe. Either the water or the hops used. (Sam tweaks things along the way all of the time. Each Peche and Pumpkin are different each year.) When it was first being brewed, it was a big bad IPA. Now it's a boozy barley wine with hops. I had a 2007 a year ago or so and it was fantastic. Had a 2016 last summer, "fresh", and it was a huge let down. Meh. I guess it's just me.

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They have. Sam has admitted as much. They also dropped their alcohol content.
After the year they had to dump the batch, they changed a lot.

Still trying to get $10+ a pop also.

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i buy one bottle of each a year, then put in my closet to be drank many yrs later. i honestly don't know how many i have. i should look.


"My advice to you... is to start drinking heavily."-John Blutarsky

yeah, just so boozy, needs to mellow. i thought 3 yrs old was better then i had a 9 yr old one and my mind was blown!


"My advice to you... is to start drinking heavily."-John Blutarsky

I've got 3 bottles of a beer I brewed in '94. It's a bit past prime. That was about 2005.
I have a few bottles of Sam Adams Triple Bock left. I need to start opening one of those a year.

I opened a 2004 triple bock maybe 3 years ago.
Sat down with the guy that is now the assistant brewer at Evolution. He had drank a lot, brewed a lot, been around. He took a few sips of this and was absolutely blown away. (I was too as well.) The flavor was like a gobstopper; it kept changing and lingering. Like 45 seconds, from plums to chocolate to cherry to something to something else. I had had a few bottle previously, but at 10 years old it was fantastic.

Enjoy it when you open. Truly a neat experience.

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

So this probably isn't the most insightful post but I needed to tell someone. I just got back from my local wegmans and they had some fantastic beers in the craft your own six pack section ($11.99) including Ballast Point Sculpin, Victory Storm King, And Dogfish Head 90 min.

So if any of you need to do last minute NYE prep in PA, wegmans may be the place to go

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I really enjoy Augustiner Brau Helles. Wish I could find somewhere to get it in the US as a beer run to Munich isn't exactly cost effective.