Quick thoughts on Spring Football position changes

I am fishing today, but wanted to share some quick thoughts about the reported position changes.

Caleb Farley WR to DB- This is probably a switch resulting from a significant need rather than picking his best position. Farley is so good with the ball in his hands, and playing WR at the NC Shrine Bowl indicated that he was preparing to play wide receiver. With Greg Stroman and Brandon Facyson both being seniors, this could suggest that Khalil Ladler and Tyree Rodgers are not progressing as well as hoped. Carley's repeated drops in the Shrine Bowl could also have been a red flag. Here is hoping that the coaching staff sees something special in Farley at corner rather than patching up recruiting misses at corner.

Emmanuel Belmar-LB to DE Just like with Melvin Kiehn, I think Belmar is better suited at backer, especially in a static Bear front. Given that there isn't another scholarship linebacker at backer this spring, and walk on backer Ray Minor also moved to end, this move must indicate that Belmar just is too stiff in the base defense to scrape and spill effectively. I have no idea who is taking reps behind Tremaine Edmunds and you also have Garbutt, Debose, and Proctor coming in at DE in the fall.

Xavier Burke-TE-DT this is probably a year overdue. Burke never blocked well enough to win Fuente's trust as a C gap blocking Tight end, and ultimately this pushed Fuente to move Colt Petit to TE. Burke's HS film had promise at DL, but if he becomes serviceable depth to get through the spring, this is the correct move. It also likely means that Dalton Keene is progressing nicely.

Divine Deablo WR to DB- can he be a free safety in 2018? If so, and Devon Hunter picks things up quickly, that would be a big athletic pair of thumpers in the back end for Bud Foster. I saw Deablo in person twice (spring game and the bowl game.) He dropped two balls in the spring game and was dropping a bunch of passes in warm ups down in Charlotte. He was a terror on special teams and could be one hell of a safety.

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Caleb Farley= Carley? The kid hasn't even played a down yet and we've already assigned a nickname.

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Hah! I was thinking the same thing.
Also made me think of this:

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Just curious here - up to this point there have been no football related activities, correct? Just conditioning?

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Yes

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Don't be shocked to see Farley play both ways. Fuente isn't gonna let him go that easy and waste the potential of Farley run around with the ball in his hands.

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Don't be shocked to see Farley play both ways

Haters gonna hate, potatoes gonna potate, and hetzers gonna hetz

Hope you're right. Would love to see him take on a percy harvin style role - lining up at rb or wr and ghosting people.

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I don't jump on the hype train very often, if ever. However, I will say that Hooker and Farley look like elite level talent; the kind of talent that's tough to stop on their own. Drop in egregious amounts of quality WR + TE recruits, plus a renewed focus on o-line recruiting, all wrapped up in an 'FU'-Offense ... honestly, it's laying the ground work for an offense that can put up game winning points on any team. Reality is we're probably 2 or 3 years from seeing that in full, and there are lots of unknowns and things that can change, but I'm cautiously optimistic. There is a clear plan in place + it looks like a long-term, winning formula from where I sit.

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Sauces dictate we might see redshirts on Garbutt and Proctor, but it is going to depend on Hilgartification and how fast they progress mentally.

I mean for the most part I would think really anyone who didn't enroll early would either get redshirted or put on special teams, aside from possibly Hunter? Correct me if I'm wrong

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Depth issues and long term planning might force some hands, possibly? I'm speculating on that.

I may be wrong, but my eyes and my gut tell me that Debose will see the field.

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The word on the street is your eyes and gut are correct. On a side note, Zion's enthusiasm is through the roof. He's headed to Blacksburg this weekend and is excited to be there.

He looks the most physically ready to play to me of the freshmen defensive ends.

Apparently the coaching staff agrees with you and I don't think he's going to have trouble with his head tying up his body because the kid is really, really intelligent. He's not overestimating himself by trying to play football and major in engineering.

When I watch him play, I see Orion Martin... as an upperclassman. The kid is polished, angry, and just needs to make sure he has D1 strength (he may have it already, but it can take a little bit of time) to be a very good DE.

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I'm not claiming to be any kind of judge on D1 strength, and I don't know if he's quite there yet, but he is constantly working on it in anticipation of getting to Blacksburg and contributing.

so, I guess he's doing well in his internship?

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Yeah. He's soaking it all in trying to figure out what kind of engineer he wants to be.

Hopefully whatever kind strikes fear in the heart of QBs.

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He's going to engineer some pain for opposing QBs.

Puns that anticipate pain for pansy pistoleers of the pocket playing for the popposition are purely plentiful!

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There's nothing civil about sacking the opposing QB, so based on this, DeBose won't pick Civil engineering...

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That's what he's leaning towards unless he finds something else he is more interested in.

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If we have that much depth worry at backer, we could see Dylan Rivers skip the redshirt. He was apparently pitched on being the next great backer, not Mike, as many of us thought.

The next great Mike is in the next class. I'm hoping to see Hollifield and Rivers at Mike and Backer together for a few seasons.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Absolutely, I really hope we can sign Hollifield, he's being courted by all the big dogs.

Per Foster's presser comments, Shegog will back up Edmunds at whip, with Deon Newsome getting work at rover. Reggie Floyd and Khalil Ladler will work at rover. Ladler at rover is a head scratcher. There is definitely a path for Hunter to play right away if he picks up the scheme quickly.

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Shegog will back up Edmunds at whip

So many questions. Did Foster misspeak, or is Terrell moving to whip, or is Shegog playing behind Mook, or is he actually playing backer behind Tremaine?

EDIT: I hadn't scrolled yet.

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EDIT: I made a confused response based off of an incidental typo in the above comment. I should have just checked to see the changes myself. I actually like the moves for the most part.

There is a linebacker reivew (Rivers, Kearny, Ashby, and Griffin) in the queue. I don't want to spoil things, but my exact conclusion is that Rivers and Griffin will be at backer, and Ashby and Kearny will be two very different types of mike linebacker.

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Ashby and Kearny will be two very different types of mike linebacker.

Piqued interest level has reached critical mass

Ashby- traditional plugger in the B to B gap. Kearny is a guy who can run sideline to sideline. Given the proliferation of spreads, Foster has to find a balance between gap soundness and having a mike who can run with a slot guy against trips to the field.

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I'm a little concerned about the WRs coming to defense considering our need at WR this season. I trust Fuente and Foster, but it's something to keep an eye on.

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My meaningless intuition and more substantiated rumors from the team seem to suggest that Phil Patterson is going to emerge as a playmaker outside.

Don't forget Pimpleton. That little grease ball of a man. I still think he is gonna play like Devon Hester.

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I'm definitely excited to see him too. I wonder if his similarity in size/position with CJ Carroll will limit one or both of their snaps.

CJ will probably begin the season with more reps if Pimp doesn't redshirt then talent will take over and Pimp will end the year on the strong note. just my guess. We should see him a lot this spring since a lot of our WR are already penciled out

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I love Pimpleton as a slot guy, but he needs to work on his catch technique. He cradles the ball a bit too much for my liking instead of attacking it with his hands. Pimpleton will get on the field, but will be much more likely to be used on jet sweeps and screens than in the dropback passing game. When the Hokies are looking to throw, Carroll and Savoy will get a look. Outside expect a three man rotation of Phillips, with Patterson and Kumah. The 24/7 guys have been hyping Patterson heavily, and the last time they did that was for Bucky Hodges after the move to tight end.

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Fuente also hyped up Patterson a bit in that press conference. At least as much as anything said in his monotone even-keel can be considered "hyping".

I have no sauces. So, I have to go on what I have. I hope you're right and that's exactly what these moves mean. I'm not panicking by any means. I just think it's something to keep an eye on until we can actually see some football.

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If the Defensive backfield works out with Farley, Hunter, & Diablo, That is going to be a lot of speed with a lot of punishing hits. Pack that along side the edmund brothers flying around. I'm getting excited at the potential.

Oh random thought popped in my head. Image Hunter or Diablo pressing the line of scrimmage. (Mind f**king everyone)

Now if our DLine could have some depth and Rivers comes in ready to push MOTO around.

SHIT!! I went all VAN DAMME in a leotard excited!

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I'm not sure we keep either Edmunds after next season. I think they could both stay for sure, but realistically, they already have NFL bodies, and with another top flight season statistically, they don't have much reason to stick around.

well hell, who's talking about after next season. Im ready for some excitement this year. Good on them but still gonna be fun to watch them at least one more year.

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Fair enough, I was too assumptious!

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I wouldn't blame them. No reason to stay after a natty.

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Can't unsee that!

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Why would you want to?

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Tavante Beckett will be the number 2 Mike. When he committed, I thought that would be where he ended up. Could be really good, especially if the DTs keep him clean.

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Terrell Edmunds to free safety is confirmed as well. Given his corner experience, it made too much sense for him not to be at free. That allows Bud to keep Mook at whip and send him with Edmunds picking up the slot over the top.

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With the rover being Hunter or Floyd, that means Bud expects them to be in the box and it means that the boundary side corner will need to have an outstanding year in man coverage.

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Also makes me wonder if Bud will go back to flipping corners or does he trust his top 3 guys all one on one to the boundary. They were good last year but Edmunds had the range to help if needed.

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I was about to ask about that. I thought we had dropped the boundary and field corners and just gone to left and right under Mitchell

If a tree falls in Scott Stadium does it make a sound?

And could one of you guys do a fish dance? I have been out here five hours without a bite!

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have you tried this yet?

If a tree falls in Scott Stadium does it make a sound?

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If Farley is as good with the bowl as his film suggests and as everyone involved seems to think, there's no way you can put him at corner, no matter how thin.

woah woah woah....Let's hope nobody sees that he is good with the bowl. I think that is still a violation.

Does this mean that Alexander is definitely staying at corner then? I thought that he might get a shot at Rover.

It is pretty clear that Foster expects immediate contributions from Devon Hunter at the rover spot. Reggie Floyd will have the next four weeks to convince Foster otherwise. It could be a rotation like Frye and Alexander that we saw two seasons ago, but it is pretty clear from Edmunds move and Alexander staying at corner that they expect Hunter to be a day 1 kind of player.

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Thanks French

Disappointed that Farley isn't a full time WR. Everything I read was that he was a stud in this class and would be a game changer on offense. I understand that he might play on offense too, but I was really hoping that he would be a full time WR.

We seem to always find guys that can play on defense and fit the scheme well. We've needed game changers on offense for years.

I was hoping he was going to be a full time WR as well but if the dood can't catch the ball then he's not going to be a very good WR. just sayin'

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Indeed Ladler to Rover is the biggest head-scratcher. Given the multiple offers (and despite the knee injury) I thought he'd be the next big thing at CB for us. I'd love more insight into that one.

Yeah, Ladler isn't very big either, so that's the other surprising bit about this. That said, Kyshoen Jarrett started as a 4* corner and he was a damn good rover.

I'd be interested to see his updated height and weight. All I can find is 5'11", 183lbs but something is giving me the impression those were his numbers prior to the red shirt year.

We needed need Ladler to shine. There aren't many opportunities for us to land IMG alum.

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Still don't know how I feel about the Farley move. I think he could be a fantastic corner for us, but I also feel he could be a gamechanger on offense. Perhaps he just wasn't as comfortable with the move to full time WR as we thought he may be. Transitioning to the position from QB is a big adjustment, and if the coaches weren't comfortable with his route running or hands, he couldn't be an effective receiver for us. I thought playing some at RB would be a more natural transition from QB. In any case, I hope to see him on both sides of the ball if possible.

Also, completely understand with Deablo. He was a very big and impressive looking receiver, but pretty much every time I saw him get open and have the ball thrown to him, it was a big drop. Receivers without reliable hands get moved to DB. I think he could be an absolute monster FS for us lining up alongside Hunter.

Not to mention, Deablo is a BAD ASS name for a safety.

even more badass when you consider the possibility that our safety's last names as they line up could possibly be " Deablo Hunter"

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