ASK TKP: Where does everyone think we will end up in Bowl Season?

Virginia Tech twitter trying to get people to start applying for Bowl Game tickets. I usually go to it if its on the East Coast, and chance we end up in El Paso, or maybe even Glendale???

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I'd bet Orlando in the Camping World Bowl or maybe the Citrus Bowl.

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Atlanta will be the final game I'm not sure about semifinals though.

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I'm not sure why they had Glendale as an option. You can see in bottom left corner of the picture Glendale.

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Fiesta Bowl is a possibility, that game is 2 at-large teams

NY6 Bowl.

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Orange Bowl after another loss to Clemson in the ACCCG... proceeds to duck

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Remember the days when fans got bored with going to the Orange Bowl almost every year?

Even though we only won it once

/ducks again

Seems like a good time to remind everyone of the bowl line up.

We probably won't get the Belk Bowl, since they try not to repeat year to year. If we are in the tier 1 bowl range, maybe Pinstripe wants us, since they haven't gotten us yet? Other than that, there's still too much up in the air to allow for even good speculation.

But, might as well put up last year's ACC bowl bids as a reminder:

NY6:
-#2 Clemson (12-1) in CFP
-#11 FSU (9-3) in Orange Bowl

Tier 0:
-#13 Louisville (9-3) in Citrus -- spot picked up due to Big Ten in Orange
-Miami (8-4) in RAB/CWB

Tier 1:
-#22 VT (9-4) in Belk
-#23 Pitt (8-4) in Pinstripe
-UNC (8-4) in Sun
-GT (8-4) in Taxslayer

Tier 2:
-WF (6-6) in Military
-NC State (6-6) in Independence
-BC (6-6) in Quick Lane

I wish the Sun Bowl was in tier 2.

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

I would be ALL OVER the pinstripe bowl

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1.) didn't forget ND. They were 4-8.
2.) ND can't take the ACC spot in Orange Bowl.
3.) Peach Bowl is NY6, if ACC goes there, it will be based off rankings.

So if we get hammered in the ACCCG like BlueHokie is saying and we drop 8 spots. NC state moves past us they would get in Orange Bowl instead of us. Since it is the highest ranked team?

Not that I said anything about getting hammered . . . but yes, if the ACC champ is in the semi-finals, then the highest ranked ACC team after that goes to the Orange Bowl. And it's all up to the committee.

Now, the Orange Bowl does have a rule where they can skip teams to avoid a regular season rematch, but that likely only applies to the non-ACC side of the matchup. For instance, if Clemson was going to the Orange Bowl and USCe was the highest ranked available team, then the committee would put USCe in another NY6 bowl and select the next team on the list.

I'd like a cotton bowl appearance.

We're one win over Miami away from having a clear path to at least a NY6 bowl. If we finish the year ranked highest in the ACC outside of Clemson, it doesn't matter if we play in the ACC title game, that's where we go.

So yeah, that's where I think we end up.

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So they take the rankings from before the ACCCG? Assuming we beat Miami, they could still win out and finish ranked higher than us if we lose in ACCCG.

It's all from the last set of rankings that comes out the day after the championship games.

Assuming we beat Miami, they could still win out and finish ranked higher than us if we lose in ACCCG.

Reports of da U's bak-ness may be greatly exaggerated, again.

I see Pasadena listed. No idea this is an option but that's my final answer: Pasadena.


Rose Bowl

If we ever end up in a playoff semi-final in the Rose Bowl, I've told myself I absolutely have to go. Such a rare opportunity for a non B1G-Pac 12 school to make it to that bowl, and so much history and tradition.

Brent Mushberger would lose his ever loving mind if Virginia Tech was in the Rose Bowl over Florida State.

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Which would make it all the more worthwhile.

Ok, well how about we just skip all the confusion and win the ACCCG.

Overtaking the spot for consecutive bowl appearances after FSU loses its 7th game of the year

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After they lose six they don't have a winning record. They cancelled a game.

A 5-6 FSU might still get into a bowl. If they lose 7, there's no debate.

FSU would be too sexy a name to leave off the losing-record-team-used-to-fill-out-bowl slots. If Jimbo had any pride in this history of the program, he would decline the except offer.

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If Jimbo had any pride in this history of the program

If you had pride in historical aspects of your program, wouldn't you want your historical record to continue? If you have pride in the history of the bowl system and believe the historical number of bowls (i.e., much less) and winning record requirement should still exist, then I guess you would decline.

By that reasoning, VT should've never accepted bowl appearance in 2012, 2014, and 2015, since historically, you had to have at least a 6-5 record to go to a bowl.

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Since they added the 12th game, it went to 6-6. Without cancelling a game, we would need to not play one to be 6-5.

If they end up 5-6, I guess they have the right to accept. I suppose his players deserve the game , but it would be a far tumble form preseason top 5 to bowl exception. And I personally love that.

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At 5-6 APR comes into play. They are somewhere in the 120s if I'm not mistaken.

5-6 and they're done

That's an NCAA rule with regard to academics, right? In that case 5-6 should be more than sufficient to get FSU into a bowl...

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So you think they UNC gud enuf to bol?

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I tried to find a definitive answer about teams that play fewer than 12 games.

I found something.

For bowl games, though, there's no cancelation exception to the eligibility rule.

(In theory, the NCAA could move to add an exception in the middle of the season, because this year's featured so many cancelations.)

That leaves the possibility that someone finishes 5-6. If someone did, it would be ineligible for a bowl game under the NCAA's current rules.

The way I read it, unless the NCAA grants a waiver or makes an exception due to the number of teams affected by cancelled games, 5-6 teams will be treated like 5-7 teams.

It's done by APR though, and I'm pretty sure their's is horrendous

Wait till FSU or another blue blood misses bowl season because of a shitty APR score. There will then a be a new metric created to support a big team like that getting in.

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Fine with me as long as F$U misses a bowl this year. I want that streak and I'm tired of the F$U fans not accepting that they had a bowl appearance vacated by the toothless UNCAA.

Is that confirmed that they will only play 11?

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There was talk of them making up the game on ACCCG weekend, if they didn't make it. Haven't heard any recent talk.

has FSU been mathematically eliminated from the ACCCG at this point?

Answer to my own question: FSU needs NC state to lose three more ACC games (they are 3-0 in conference now) AND they need to beat Clemson and have Clemson drop another. This is just based on win-loss and head to heads, not crazy tie breakers.

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I don't think anyone can be mathematically eliminated before 4 conference games.

I'd also be okay with a Bourbon Bowl appearance

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Not anymore.

The bowl formerly known as the Russell Athletic Bowl (i.e. the bowl game in Orlando in which we played Rutgers in 2012) is now the Camping World Bowl.

This is not to be confused with the bowl formerly known as the Camping World Independence Bowl (i.e. the bowl game in Shreveport in which we played Tulsa in 2015, Beamer's last game) which is now just the Independence Bowl.

Now it's called "Walk-on's" Independence Bowl.

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I'm hoping for a NY6 bowl, and a win. I'm hoping we gradually build up success like Clemson did (minus the 40 point orange bowl loss...though that did bring them Brent V.)

Here's a question:

If losing to someone by 40 points means you get Clemson level success like we see would you take it?

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Without any doubt. Yes.

Without hesitation. The Hokies have broken my heart on the big stage so many times over the years, what's one more? If that is the consolation prize!

Pretty much, doesn't happen often but I've seen my Hokies embarrassed before. I could drink enough to not remember the loss.

Wasn't the Stanford game punishment enough?

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Things just got worse from there. We did the reverse Clemson.

I'm still convinced some kind of voodoo juju went down in New Orleans in 2011. For that Danny Coale saga combined with Beamer's fake punt decision to all happen in one game then the subsequent miserable years... can't be coincidence.

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

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I blame Juju Clayton

The better question would have been if we would accept a 40 point loss to WVU.

But yeah, I'm taking the hit if it means a national title in the next 5 years (even if we had to lose to the Hoos).

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Trick question. Lose by 40 points to someone? Yes. Lose by 40 points to WVU? No.

If losing to woovoo by 40 meant we'd win a natty within 5 years I'd do it...

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I've come to the conclusion I would do a LOT for a Hokies natty. 40 point loss is mild to what my friends have come up with me to do hypothetically.

20 dollars is 20 dollars

Cotton, because we've never been there. Orange if Clemson in playoff. Chix/Camping/Citrus if Clemson is in Orange.

Cotton would either mean that we're the third best ACC team but still highly ranked, or that Clemson didn't make it to the semis, so we're only the second highest ranked ACC team.

2014 season - #5 Baylor vs. #8 Michigan State
Baylor or TCU had been displaced from the Sugar Bowl by the semis. Michigan State was the second highest Big Ten team behind OSU (in the semis). The Orange Bowl had already taken #7 Mississippi State.

2016 season - #8 Wisconsin vs. #15 Western Michigan
As the only at-large bowl, the Cotton had to take WMU. Wisconsin was the 4th highest ranked Big Ten team. (OSU in CFP, PSU in Rose, Michigan in Orange)

Looks like the key to getting to the Cotton Bowl in the Power 5 is to be in the top 8. But there's also a decent chance that they could be taking a displaced conference champ, as they are close to Big 12 and SEC territory.

Anywhere but fucking El Paso.

"You know when the Hokies say 'We are Virginia Tech' they're going to mean it."- Lee Corso

"Take care of the little things and the big things will come."

You wanna do WHAT to El Paso???

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I would not put money on running the table and beating Klempson in the Championship, so Playoff is unlikely. Running the table and losing the rematch should get us the Orange, but I'm not confident on that. We might backdoor the Orange by based on any combination of others losing though, 'cause #GOACC. I'm thinking about 20% chance each for Music City, Camping, or Orange, with all the others together adding to 40%.

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Outside of us, and maaaaybe GT this weekend, I don't see Miami losing another game. So I'm thinking the only way we get into the Orange Bowl is through Miami.

So I'm thinking the only way we get into the Orange Bowl is through Miami.

Technically, that is the truth.

LOLUVA has shown a knack for beating Miami at odd times. So, maybe?

No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

We don't love dem Hoos.

Don't forget we play pretty well with hurricanes. UNCheat can confirm that.

Let's Go

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It's the ACC. Did you see Klempson Klempsoning again? When was the last time you did not see da U buy into their bakness and forget to play a game? But I a don't see us getting to the Orange if we lose to either GT or Miami, unless it's by winning in Charlotte.

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I don't believe we get a NY6 bowl. Just not good enough in my opinion. Citrus would be nice.

As long as we're on a field playing pigskin on or around the Holidays.... I don't care where or who we play. Victory is inevitable.

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I bet El Paso

Come on Birmingham!

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If we don't make the playoffs, then I'm pretty happy with the next few options. Orange Bowl is in play, but I think the two Orlando games are the most likely options. If things go downhill, I'm pulling for the Gator Bowl so it costs me zero dollars to go to a bowl game.

Just ordered my bowl tickets. I'm good as long as we don't end up in Detroit, Shreveport or El Paso. The boss even said go for the Club seats at some of the bowl locations!

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Haven't ordered tickets yet, but I was informed if we end up facing Florida in a bowl somewhere I am to buy all the tickets I can. Half the wife's family are Gator fans and the other half are Hokie fans, some even both.

SEC bowl structure is like the ACC. They have the CFP, then the Citrus Bowl, and then a tier 1 of 6 bowl games, with two more in tier 2.

Florida is 3-3, currently 9th (at best) in the SEC standings. Even if they somehow win out and end up at 9-3, best case scenario is that they end up in tier 1. There's only two bowls in that tier that match up with ACC - the Taxslayer or Music City and Belk. Since I don't think we'll be in the Belk Bowl two years in a row, maybe we might see them in Taxslayer/Music City (whichever takes an ACC team). The only other option is down in tier 2 in the Independence Bowl, which is ACC #8 vs. SEC #9.

Short version -- odds for that matchup are slim.

Of course, I say that, and then some knucklehead at ESPN has to go project that very matchup in the Belk Bowl.

Belk got best choice out of tier 1 last year, so they may get stuck with the worst tier 1 this year. Could come down to the winner of LOL and LVLLE for the right to play USCe, with USCe driving the attendance enough they can take a team that won't travel. I think GT is a more likely pick though. Let them play half the SEC east.

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Not sure if it makes a difference, but USCe opened the season in Charlotte... would they take them again?

Didn't we go to the Chick-fil-a Bowl the same year as a CFA kickoff game once?

Yep, 2009. Played the Chick-fila kick off, played GT in ATL and played in the peach bowl.

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Capital One Orange Bowl

Hard Rock Stadium, Miami Gardens, Florida
Dec. 30, 8 p.m. (ESPN)

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Miami can't fill the stadium for a home game when ranked in the top fifteen, do they think they are going to actually fill a bowl game?

People realllly wanna see Mark Richt vs Georgia, and honestly I can't blame 'em