OT: Infinity War Discussion Thread (SPOILERS. Do not open this thread if you haven't seen the movie.)

Alright boys and girls. It's done. The snap has happened and heroes have blown off into the wind. Just... not who you thought would.

Thoughts on the movie? Favorite parts?

For me:

Thor arriving in Wakanda was fucking badass. Holy cow. Genuine audible reaction from the whole theatre.

Doctor Strange saying "this was the only way" after seeing the one positive outcome when he travelled ahead in time is a big one. It's obvious they didn't just kill off Black Panther, Spiderman, GotG, etc. with their upcoming films. But it's clear from the end-credit scene that it really did happen, as we see the real-world effects of people just vanishing. What do you think Marvel does to fix that?

Thanos is a great villain. They did a great job of humanizing him. The scene with Gamora to get the soul stone was impressive.

Loki dying right off the bat sent a message. It was clear that it was going to be a much darker tone that what we're used to from Marvel. And yet, some of the scenes were genuinely hilarious. I love Drax. He had some great scenes tonight.

Anyways. That's me rambling. Feel free to chime in.

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that was the opposite of what I expected. all new characters dusted. original avengers still around (plus rocket and nebula).

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I was in a theater where people were cheering every time their favorite avenger showed up (which I cannot stand, clapping and cheering during a movie is stupid). So the audible gasps and screams of no when each one got dusted was quite enjoyable

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This movie had a different theme to the rest of the Marvel movies. Except for the scene on Titan it just looked like bad guys were way more powerful (obviously as Thanos collects more stones). The movie was great but felt like anyone and everyone could be killed in that movie. Years of building characters up in other movies had their lives ended swiftly and quickly. Anyways going to see it a second time this Sunday but have to say RIP Guardians of the Galaxy they pretty much got obliterated.

My questions: With Thanos done and "retired" from his mission how do these movies carry on?

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The remaining Avengers need to figure out how to defeat Thanos to put everything back into place I suppose.

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I know that there will be an infinity wars part II. My guess is they (temporarily) killed off all the heros that are still making individual movies, and kept the old heros alive for the sequal so the others ones can continue working on other sets. Guardians of the Galaxy , spider man , We never saw ant man, black panther, Dr Strange. The ones who lived are the old avengers. My bet is they are building for a great finale for the original Avengers, and clearing the stage so they can make a grand exodus. I guarantee, regarding the future of Marvels movies, the ones who got dusted probably are the safest to continue their own series.

Well it ended exactly as I thought it would. As in it didn't end. That's not a complaint by any means. This movie was good, pretty much the whole way through. It was probably the quickest 2 hours 40 mins I can ever remember. I enjoyed the way the soul stone had to be found and the way Red Skull made his return. Thor seemed to be the star of this movie as well. They have me excited for Capt. Marvel now. And of course the conclusion.

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The movie was good in the sense that it balanced the sheer number of superheroes screen time while also telling nice tidy stories along the way. However, this movie is part 1, which they removed from the title a while back, so how many people are going to go to this movie expecting Black Panther 1.5 and have no idea this is only a part 1 movie? As somebody mentioned above, this movie was pretty dark too, so I could easily see the casual fan of marvel/superhero movies hating the movie with that ending.

Also, marvel usually struggles with any kind of permanence (heroes never truly die, and now neither do villains apparently), so their decision to kill off half the heroes took away from the actual deaths (Loki/Gamora/Vision). And let's be honest, everyone in the world knows that all of those deaths will be reversed, so it just kind of cheapens the power of the ending more.

I was surprised there was no mention of Adam Warlock (teased after guardians 2, and a major player in the infinity arc in the comics), so I'm curious if Thanos will be the only villain of the next movie as well. Adam is probably going to be the bridge between Thanos and Galactus (assuming the Fox deal actually results in marvel getting to use those characters at some point), so it seems like they're going to have to introduce him soon.

Overall the movie was a success in that it set up what's to come and really raised the stakes but I think the ending undermined any true consequences of Thanos' conquests. Unfortunately it just feels like a cash grab where marvel knows you'll throw money at anything they make with avengers slapped on it and now they've got you hooked to come back for the next Avengers to see how your favorite hero comes back to life.

Also, I guess it is probably no Coincidence that everyone except the Original Avengers kicked it. Not sure how that plays out in the next one, but it has to mean something.

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I really really enjoyed it. The jokes were solid. But damn, it felt like all of the best characters got killed.

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I think that Ant-Man not being in the movie is very telling, and that Ant-Man & The Wasp could be an extremely big story building arc than I previously thought. And the nod to Captain Marvel was great, even though we all know she's getting an origins movie first, because I think her role is so much bigger at this point in either remedying what just happened, or being the focal point (think Tony Stark) for the next 10 years of the MCU.

And keeping Tony alive HAS to be crucial in "winning". Does he develop time travel? Does he work with Pym on multi-verse/time travel? Again, I feel like the next Ant-Man movie is going to be huge for this aspect alone.

I also agree that Thor was easily the best "good guy" character, but the best character in the movie hands down was Thanos. How they fleshed him out, his story arc, and the gravitas of his presence in every scene was unparalleled. At any given time I felt like anyone could die. That final scene when Thor stabs him and he says "you should have aimed for my head" then snaps his fingers...oh man that shit gave me goosebumps.

Special shout out to Red Skull. I literally raised my hands up when he came on screen.

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Ant Man and the Wasp and Captain Marvel will be in Avengers 4, how we both of their movies come out before then and they both take place before the events of Infinity War so we may not get a whole lot of answers to what happened. Captain Marvel probably more so than Ant Man and the Wasp.
I thought Infinity War was great! Not my favorite MCU film, but I thought they did a good job of giving screen time to all the characters. I was surprised at who died but when you said that the original Avengers survived, it makes a little more sense. Although Spider-Man can't stay did, I don't think Sony would be very happy about that, lol

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Bold, very bold. I was wondering if they'd follow through with the *snap* and they did just that. Very enjoyable movie, ....though I was surprised as fuck to see the Redskull? I dunno shit about him, I couldn't make it all the way through that horrible first Captain America movie.

Yeah, they killed off a ton of characters...but you know that shit aint permanent, especially with WHO they killed off at the end.

I wasn't surprised by Loki at all, ..in fact I was calling for that exact scenario in the beginning.

Again, very good film. They balanced it well for a film that had so many characters to give screen time. Thanos is fucking bad ass, man.

I'm curious about the math. Was it half the population in the comics? Because assuming half the population leaves an equal number of males/females, then the population won't take long to reach huge numbers again. Assuming similar population growth rates to those on this planet, the population doubles in 30-40 years. Some planets would see faster rates, others slower, but halving a population for the purpose Thanos claims is not very long lasting at all.

Thats alot of science man! And doesn't solve the problem that Spider man and Black Panther are now dead and they have new movies coming out in just a couple years!

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As are the Guardians except Rocket. I can see the promo material now.

There's technically a lot more GotG -- But, having Sean Gunn and Sylvester Stallone as leads probably wouldn't get the box office ratings they're looking for.

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There's no reason Thanos would not keep the sacrifice going.

War-torn states and totalitarian regimes lead to lower birth rates too, but that's probably not relevant to actual comic book stories.

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Doesn't the Infinity Gauntlet break as he snaps his fingers? Looked like it did.

If you're reading the above post and thinking, "is this guy serious?!?," you can safely assume I'm not.

My early conspiracy theories are:

Everyone dusted thus far is simply in an alternative reality, possibly via the reality stone. Marvel has invested too much in the current characters to replace them in their future movies (Spider Man, GotG 3, and Black Panther would be terrible in the box office with replacements and story lines would be too difficult to develop again).

Thanos brings back Gamora somehow, potentially time stone, but probably more thoughtful manor that will be a twist in the 2nd Infinity War.

The fact that the original Avengers were not dusted suggests to me that some (especially Stark) will be sacrificial to get the "reality back."

My biggest question is where has Captain Marvel been since the 90s, so I'm looking forward to that movie and the tie in to the 2nd Infinity War. I also imagine that Ant Man and Wasp will be integral to the 2nd Infinity War movie too, and thus looking forward to that story developing.

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Everyone who got dusted will return in part 2.

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Screw captain marvel. Silver surfer is the batman to thanos' joker. Too bad fox butchered him in fantastic flop four.

The movie was good and I really liked it. You certainly will have needed to see the past movies to appreciate it and keep up though. Just so everyones aware a ton of the heroes get vaped in the actual comics mini series, so that's not some move the studio came up with out of nowhere. And yes, all these things can be reversed (for instance if some good guy cough* Adam warlock cough* got the gauntlet). What I'm not sure of is how he would acquire the gauntlet to bring them all back and that not end the conflict. It's as if the vaped heroes couldn't be in part 2 till the end which seems lame. I'm with someone's theory above that they will be trapped in the soul stone trying to figure their way out or something.

Also having everyone disappear at different rates was killer. You had no idea who was next or when it would stop.

Also, all the villains were great, thanos was great, his little secondary villains were all great. Everything was great. Except!!! Thanos' eyes, they screwed up his soulless eyes that also start smoking when he gets pissed (which is the quickest way to know someone's a badass)

I don't understand why Vision was so weak in this film. I seem to remember him being one of the most powerful characters in Age of Ultron, but he was pretty useless this time around.

The first time he gets stabbed, he says that the blade weakened him. Kind of a cop out but it's there.

If you're reading the above post and thinking, "is this guy serious?!?," you can safely assume I'm not.

Just saw it. Not totally sold that Doc Strange is gone (I mean he can travel to alt dimensions and universes for crying out loud). Need Adam Warlock, stat!
Also, I thought Chris Evans is done with Captain America??? And what has S.H.I.E.L.D. been up to since Age of Ultron??

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I'm pretty sure the next Avengers movie is his last (Chris Evans)

I am seeing it again this morning. But because of movie passes new rules I am actually seeing "Traffic".

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I heard they may start asking for pictures of ticket stubs or some crazy shit

That's ok. I have a ticket stub that says Traffic.

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Anyone catch the part where Peter Dinklage's character yelled "Hold the door!" when Thor was trying to keep that forge door open? Or am I completely crazy?

What is that some sort of catch phrase or something?

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yea it's from Game of Thrones

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So what movies do I need to go see before I see this one?

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Pretty much all of them to be honest.

Iron Mans
Capt Americas
Black Panther
Ragnarok
All Avengers
Civil War

Those are probably the most important. Buy ideally you will have seen them all. They all build on each other

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I've seen some of them in no real order.

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Probably would add the first GotG to this list.

Actually both are fairly important. Somehow forgot them

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They weren't that great of movies. First one was cool because of the characters. Second one I couldn't get all the way through.

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Sounds like you are a fairly casual fan. At that point I don't know if it matters what movies you have seen. You will just have alot of unanswered questions. I disagree they were not good movies, just different than the others. And have some important stuff tying it all together. The movie is good regardless of the background you have.

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I'd probably add Dr. Strange to the list since his powers aren't as well known as other characters.

Also a great movie to watch in HD with good sound.

Really? I thoroughly enjoyed GotG2. If for nothing else, the soundtrack kicks ass, but getting SL's back story completed was also nice. And Drax, Groot, and Rocket are show stealers every time out.

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I loved actually seeing the villain win for once. Also, did anyone else notice Peter Dinklage yealling "Hold the door" at Thor during the forging scene? I really hope that was a small nod to Game of Thrones.

Wow. I'm all up in my feels.

Them people aren't dead.

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I think there is a subtle reason of who they picked to disappear when Thanos received all of the stones, they are the people who those that stayed cared about a lot (Cap staying and Bucky disappeared, Iron Man staying and Spiderman disappeared, Vision and Gamorra are dead already and Starlord and Scarlet Witch disappeared, and Rocket staying and Groot disappeared) because of the Soul Stone and that that was a great thing to do for the movie.

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I am taking a more commercial opinion on why Marvel chose to kill off those particular characters. Since the next Infinity War movie is likely the last appearance of the actors who portray Captain America, Thor, Iron Man, Hulk, and Black Widow, I suspect that they are giving the majority of screen time to their core group in their last movie together. Kind of makes sense, reward your bell cows for the billions that they have earned for the franchise.

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My theory is that the remaining Avengers (the originals: Cap, Iron Man, Black Widow, Thor, Hulk, Hawkeye) add up to 6 characters. With 6 stones in the gauntlet, each character needs to sacrifice themselves to get each stone back and that will reverse the effect of the snap.

The original Avengers will be gone, but the next phase of the MCU will return.

So why did Falcon get killed while War Machine survived??

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Terrence Howard died but Don Cheadle didn't.

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All of Steve's potential replacements as Captain America died. I feel like that's intentional.

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I get it, but by that logic, in the comics, Rhody did replace Stark as Iron Man for awhile.

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the last appearance of the actors who portray Captain America, Thor, Iron Man, Hulk, and Black Widow

reward your bell cows for the billions that they have earned for the franchise

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Not sure if you are rejecting or agreeing with my highly speculative premise Jeep, but leg for you either way amigo. For the record, I enjoyed the movie as much as any MCU flick, and more than most. Looking forward to seeing how Marvel restores half the universe's population and sends off many of their iconic characters.

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I think he's merely pointing out in a joking way the last appearance of the first MCU Hulk, Edward Norton, was also his first.

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I AM SEVERELY UNHAPPY THEY TOOK BUCKY AWAY.

And Spidey going almost made me cry. Even though I haven't seen Homecoming.

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You should see Homecoming. I mean it Michael Keaton reprised his role as Birdman. It was amazing.

It's been very difficult to get DH to watch MCU movies *shrug* Ant-Man and Homecoming are kinda at the bottom of his list, so...

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Ant-man is hit or miss. It was decent and Michael Pena saves the whole movie. If a fan of Spiderman at all, definitely see Homecoming. Tom Holland is by far the best movie Spiderman, and Homecoming doesn't pull the "let's retell the origin again because someone might not know" thing.

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I know Sebastian Stan's contract is super long and there's a Spidey 2 on the schedule, but it still made me sad

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How much of a penis is Star Lord for waking Thanos up after they'd basically stolen the gauntlet

Same thing with Stark not having the wherewithal to KEEP THE STONES AWAY FROM THE DUDE WITH THE GLOVE!

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Did you seriously just say "wherewithal?"

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at least they didn't say 'hitherto undreamt of'

This is hitherto undreamt of.

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Only one plan exists that have the Avengers winning -- this is that one plan. It was meant for him to be a penis. /s

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So in 14.6 million different scenarios, you're telling me none of them had Star Lord punching Thanos in the face and ruining the plan? Come on Dr. Strange, you had to see that coming.

That was part of the plan. Or it might be more accurate to say that in all of those combinations, losing this way was the only way for them to ultimately be successful, eventually.....

Hopefully.

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Doc Strange did say "It was the only way." I'd say all those people/aliens are locked in the Soul Stone. If had kept him from doing that, he'd have just killed half of the universe anyway, only there'd be no way to get them back.

One of them did have Star Lord punching him in the face: the ones that they win.

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Why when Mantis had him subdued did they not just stab him in the head or something instead of trying to get the gauntlet off?

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Didn't they have to get the gauntlet off before they could do any real damage to him? He had a building dropped on him and shook it off. I was under the impression that only Thor's special weapon could break through the power of the stones by that point.

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Why didn't Dr. Strange just use the time stone to go back in time to a time when Thanos Didn't have the gauntlet and kill him while he was sitting on the crapper or something?

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Fair point.

The time stone bothers me anyways. Anytime a movie messes with time travel it sends you down a hole of what ifs and why nots. I just assume there there's some good reason for it and try not to think about it.

Plus it would have made for a boring movie!

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Maybe he did use the time stone and we're in a time loop waiting for the correct scenario to play out

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I'm also not a fan of the time stone. I really hope the solution to undo what Thanos has done is not associated with the time stone. I just don't want a reprise of the Warlock story from the comics.

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I'm interested to see Warlock, granted that won't be until what...Guardians 3?

That was the teaser of sorts from GotG2. Ayesha wanting revenge created "Adam."

It's possible he enters the MCU in the next Avengers, I guess.

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Story-wise, it's because he was doing that when he saw the 14 million possibilities. He only saw the one chance that they win, and that's the direction the movie went.

If you're reading the above post and thinking, "is this guy serious?!?," you can safely assume I'm not.

Dr. Strange went through Millions of possibilities, and I'm sure some of them involved going backwards in time, but the only way to win was to give up the time infinity stone.

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I think when Doctor Strange mentioned the one timeline that the Avengers win, he saw that he had to give Thanos the time stone and keep Stark alive. The whole "It had to be done, Tony." quote is what lead me to think this.

Tech Triumph.

Lots of people pissed that the Original Avengers have not died yet. It's crazy, because you know all those characters that were erased are coming back AND more than likely the original Avengers will parish in the process.

Also there is way to save everyone that was erased without going through time... Apparently the people that were erased were actually stored in the Soul Infinity Stone.

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That was so good that I'm itching to find a reasonably priced box set(s) of the phase one and two movies. Impressed that they were able to tie all that together so well without holes in the story.

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I'd recommend looking into the Disney Movie Club. Take the enrollment deal of 5 for $1, plus a sixth for $12 and a seventh for $9. Only have to buy two at full price (about $30 a pop) plus shipping after that. It'll be about $88 total for 9 movies, averaging about $9.70. (I haven't seen the blu-rays go below $15 very often, and most of them are sitting in the $20 range on Amazon.) Then, you can cancel, wait about a day, re-enroll with the same offer and do it all over.

Incredible Hulk and Spider-Man: Homecoming won't be available this way since they were released by other studios, but I've seen those at much cheaper prices than the Disney controlled ones.

Thanks I'm gonna look into that.

I'm kinda surprised there aren't more box set options out there for this (yet). You'd figure Disney would have several variations out there to feed off the hype machine.

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So you could just get 5 Blu-ray for $5?

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No. It's $1 total for the first five. But you have to commit to buying three more movies, one of which you can add for a discounted price upfront.

Rhody/War Machine survived. I'm happy.

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Possibly an unpopular opinion: he is my least favorite Avenger. Though he was a lot better in IW.

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Was Terrence Howard better?

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A little bit. My biggest beef with him was how in Civil War he was just like Tony's bitch. It just felt like the whole movie he was attached to him at the hip and didn't have an independent thought. I know they're friends and all but I just didn't like how dependent they made his character.

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Since I don't know shit about the Guardians characters, ...did Quill lose his powers when his father died? Or is it more of a...he'll tap into that power later, type deal.

Star-Lord's father claimed that Peter would just be a normal human after killing him, but there's no definitive proof that he was telling the truth.

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Next movie is going to require sacrifice to restore things. My bet is Ironman wields the Infinity Gauntlet (the whole exchange on Titan between Ironman and Thanos sets this up IMO), and is forced to sacrifice someone he loves in order to wield it (due to Soul Stone). Person he sacrifices is Captain America because even with all their conflict they care for each other and what they each stand for. This brings all the emotions, creates an incredible story arc between these two characters, and solves the issue of Chris Evans being done with MCU after Avengers 4.

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I really don't see Marvel going with a scenario that ends with Iron Man killing Captain America, regardless of the circumstances around it.

That just wouldn't sit well with the fanbase.

Plus the fact that Stark killing Rogers may not be a good enough sacrifice for the soul stone. (Stark still upset about that Buckey killing his parents thing)

I do expect either one or both to die, in a sacrificial way. Stark because it makes sense in the story line and his story is rather complete. Rogers because the actor wants out.

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Marvel also made a third Thor movie after the first two abominations, so they're pretty used to making decisions that won't sit well with the fanbase.

(Admittedly the third ended up being much better so maybe they know the fanbase better than the fanbase knows themselves)

they just figured out the formula to make a good Thor movie, finally.

Ragnarok is probably y favorite, I guess second favorite now, marvel movie

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Unpopular opinion: the 1st Thor movie was my fave. I give a slight edge to Ragnarok over Dark World. My only complaint is that we didn't get to see any action from Barton (in the 1st movie) like we did from Romanov in Iron Man 2. I mean they could've had him at least slow down the Destroyer or kind of soften it up (slightly) with his fancy schmancy bow.

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So who gets it?

Pepper?

Happy?

Friday?

Correction: Next movie begins with Hawkeye and Ant Man jumping in to frame, double fisting their own gauntlets that Hank Pym helped them make. Hawkeye and Ant Man take down Thanos like Kumah/Malleck against @Quin Blanding. The two then resurrect all the fallen avengers. In unison they look over their former partners (especially nick fury). "Ignore us one more time, Mother Fuckers" they then both snap their fingers and all the avengers die again. The rest of the 120 minutes of the movie is just Scott and Clint buddying around.

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The rest of the 120 minutes of the movie is just Scott and Clint buddying around

That sounds like a solid movie right there, no joke.

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Next movie begins with Hawkeye and Ant Man jumping in to frame, double fisting...

If you're reading the above post and thinking, "is this guy serious?!?," you can safely assume I'm not.

what about Captain Marvel? She the third wheel of a bromance?

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She has her own buddy comedy with The Wasp

Here lies It's a Stroman Jersey I Swear, surpassed in life by no one because he intercepted it.

Wong was all like: "I'm just gonna hang out here to...uh...protect the Sanctum Santorum..."

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Saw it last night. Impressed with how they integrated all the characters and loved all the nicknames - Mr. Clean, Rabbit, Angel man. One of my favorite lines "kick names, take ass". Since black panther was one of the first to fade, i figured it wasn't going to be permanent, so i want to thank them for that (that movie just made a billion, they aren't killing off that character). Also, watching all the credits, it mentioned an Arrested Development character. I never watched that, and definitely missed any reference in the movie, but if someone else caught it?

Tobias Funke in the collector's....collection.

I'm still disappointed there was only the one statue. I expected dozens of them.

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So I just saw it, spoilers were getting too hard to avoid any longer so I caved and glad I did. I think this was their best movie yet. It wasn't until the credits that I realized they only used 2 songs in the entire movie. That is astounding that they told such a story with only 2 songs and 1 was used just to introduce GotG.

Thanos was fantastic, they knocked it out of the park. I wondered how they would set him up to be the most powerful enemy. Having the Hulk hide the entire movie and Banner fighting really drove this point home. Hulk, the strongest avenger, is choosing to hide from Thanos really shows his strength. We know that Hulk has faced opponents from around the universe from his 2 years on Sakar so he has seen more than just what we have been shown. The smile at the end just put the icing on the cake, well I think it was the audible "What" from some of the audience is what really did it.

I would have to say that with who vanishes it really sets in that it's not final and that the story isn't done, I know that they dropped part 1. I would also say this is my only draw to the film. If we would have had an original member go then we would have a little more uncertainty left going into the next film. But overall I would say this is the best film they have released to date. Very well done.

Well, two songs that weren't original scores by Alan Silvestri, yes. But his input was phenomenal. The OG Avengers theme playing during the Cap reveal gave me chills.

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I cannot stand when people clap in theatres but I clapped a tiny bit there. That's how awesome it was.

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Soooo, could Dr Strange the Vision not just go chill in another dimension for a bit then the Guardians and the other Avengers attack Thanos in a way that doesn't involve just giving Gamora to him to reveal the Soul Stone? Then maybe get the gauntlet off/kill him with the Thor axe.

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Thor is such a badass right now though, that.... does he really need anyone else?

Taylor... looking desperately...now throws it DEEP..HAS A MAN OPEN! CAUGHT! DANNY COALE! ALL THE WAY! OUT OF BOUNDS, at the three...

Thanos had the space stone by then. The space stone lets you go anywhere including other dimensions. He could have just popped over there and got them.

Before Thanos kills Gamora, he says something along the lines of "I passed on the opportunity once, I can't afford to not fulfill my destiny twice" what is the first opportunity he is referencing?

"And guess what, you've wandered into our school of tuna and we now have a taste of lion." -Allen Gamble, The Other Guys
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I believe it's not killing half of his own people on Titan.

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That makes sense.

"And guess what, you've wandered into our school of tuna and we now have a taste of lion." -Allen Gamble, The Other Guys
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Just finally caught it. Pretty good.

Maybe it's just me, but seeing who washed away at the end kind of cheapened it for me. They have already announced Spider Man 2, Black Panther 2, Guardians of the Galaxy 3 and I have read that there is interest to make a Thor 4 after the success of Ragnarok. Knowing this really drove home the point that Avengers 4 will see most, if not all of them return.

I'm even wondering if everything isn't eventually reset to before the movie starts with the people of Asgard eventually being resurrected. Seems like a massive throwaway to cast off Idris Elba like that and have Tessa Thompson die off screen after how the Thor series evolved with them in Ragnarok.

Plus, in these Marvel movies noone ever truly dies. The directors are saying these deaths are permanent, but I still call BS. There isn't money in killing off cash cows.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Ahh alright that makes sense.

I'm also wondering how they are going to make Ant Man now work. Thanks killed off half the population of the Galaxy, but they still have Paul Rudd, Evangeline Lilly, Michael Douglas, and Michael Pena in it. Have a bad feeling you're going to have to forget about that part of Infinity War while watching.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Ant-Man and Wasp takes place between Civil War and Infinity War.

How convenient

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Given that that was intentional, and almost certainly not for production reasons, since the releases were so close together, I'd expect there to be some plot point in Ant-Man that becomes key in Infinity War Pt II. Otherwise it's nonsensical to release them out of chronological sequence.

it will be very convenient. it also will be very convenient that captain marvel occurs in the 90s. these overarching plots, movie timelines and release dates are planned 4 to 5 years in advance (each MCU phase)

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Now that's a movie I'm looking forward to. Brie Larson is very qualified to be Carol Danvers.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

I have read that there is interest to make a Thor 4

Man, I hope so. Thor and Hulk are the two OG Avengers with a lot of source material left to draw on, and Thor in particular is hitting its stride finally. If Hemsworth is down for more paydays (and hopefully Taika Waititi is still involved), I'd be very happy.

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I did see that Idris Elba has made some comments on social media saying goodbye to Heimdall, so it appears at least he won't be returning. Also reading a lot on Reddit that, and I didn't catch this when I saw it last night, the ship they were all on was split in half and half of what was remaining of Asgard survived, including Tessa Thompson's Valkyrie and possibly Korg. So there is definitely still a possibility out there for Thor 4 after the events of Avengers 4. I agree, with his newfound powers in Ragnarok, it opens a whole new possibility for that storyline down the road, though Hemsworth could be in some scheduling issues down the line, as it sounds like they could be bringing back George Kirk in the Star Trek series, and they are supposedly working on 2 ST movies concurrently right now.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Also remember that the mantle of "Thor" does pass on to other people in the comics.

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As does Capt America, Iron Man, and Spider Man (to characters either already introduced or already strongly hinted towards or otherwise referenced).

The stage is set for a nice refresh after Avengers 4.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

My personal bet is they'll at the very least spend some time without a Cap or Iron Man before allowing someone else to put on the suits, if ever. I think they'll let the next gen take the stage for a while, which I'm excited about.

And to be honest I'd have a hard time seeing someone other than RDJ/Evans as those heroes for awhile.

Fortunately we finally have a Spider Man I'm really excited about. Well. Had. For now.

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Yeah, I don't see them bringing back another version of Captain America or Iron Man. I feel as if it'd be too hard for casual fans to understand. They would just think they couldn't get the actor to come back or something.

And I agree 100% on Spider-Man. I was a BIG fan of Andrew Garfield as Spider-Man, I thought he was great. But Tom Holland, though it took me two movies to warm up to him, is insanely better. I love him.

*Mandatory Tobey Maguire was the worst*

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I don't think they'll bring in a new character for the role, I think an existing character will move in to take up the Capt mantle. Supposedly Chris Evans is done with the role after Avengers 4 (his contract runs out and it doesn't sound like he's interested in extending, as he wants to work on other ventures). Both Bucky and Sam Wilson (Falcon) take up the Captain America mantle in the comics after Rogers is killed or retires (based on storyline) so the precedent is already there for the shield to just pass from one character to another. The long held belief was that it was always going to be Bucky, because Sebastian Stan's contract ran longer (9 movies vs 7) than Evans' from the start.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Yeah I know that. What I was trying (and evidently failing) to say is that I think they won't do that because casual fans will think they have recasted the role instead of following the comics. I think it'd be harder for them to follow than just letting cap retire and letting Sam and Bucky be Sam and Bucky.

Also, Bucky's new vibranium arm was SEX.

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

You can now play a mode where you become Thanos on Fortnite!!!

Thanos is coming to Fortnite!

"And guess what, you've wandered into our school of tuna and we now have a taste of lion." -Allen Gamble, The Other Guys
@Doooougie07

That doesn't seem fair. One snap of the fingers and you win. Talk about overpowered!

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Nah, only half the participants would be dead.

For a 150 minute movie, it really flew by fast. Great action and some good one-liners. My major issue with the film though is the heroes' repeated inability to make the tough decisions that would have saved half the universe's population. Or show the resolve to not punch Thanos in the face when your buddies are just about to take the Gauntlet from him.

I'm also of the opinion they'll find a way to reverse the "snap." Somebody will probably end up dead for good but it's not the people who crumbled and blew away.

My major issue with the film though is the heroes' repeated inability to make the tough decisions that would have saved half the universe's population.

I had the same feeling, but I think that also might be a bit of the modern definition of "heroes" sneaking into our collective thinking. This movie really stuck to the old school concept of "the good guys try to save everyone no matter how difficult that may be." It really drives that point home when Dr. Strange, knowing that there's only one way to "win", still waits until the absolute last second to accept his fate.

I think that if I were a more innocent (child-like?) person watching this movie, it wouldn't bother me that the heroes don't compromise on trying to save the universe without sacrificing anyone if they can.

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If you're referencing not killing vision, you have to think that was mostly cap making that call, and that IS absolutely who he is, no compromise (see cap am civil war). Also though, they may have underestimated thanos a little having not seen him yet or understanding the true level of his power, the hulk excluded.

Finally watched the movie last night with the wife. It was good, we enjoyed it. Will wait anxiously for the follow up Marvel movies.

After watching this movie last night and reading about how Marvel has started this huge story arc spanning all platforms thing it has made me wish DC was competent enough to achieve the same. I enjoy DC heroes more in general. (Personal opinion as a very light superhero watcher). I want some huge multi-hero, multi-movie, multi-crossover deal like Marvel has done. Man of Steel, Batman vs Superman, Justice League just isn't doing it for me.

From what I have read today DC has decided to do the exact opposite, focusing on stand-alone story lines with little to no crossover. I know this is an Avengers thread but I wonder if anybody has any relevant DC thoughts.

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DC once commented that doing intro stories for all their characters would be seen as copying Marvel so just optioned to throw them all together with half of the world wondering who Flash, Aquaman, cyborg, etc are.

It has been a flop.

They also made the decision to make their TV and movies completely separate. So the flash tv show has a completely different flash for origins, etc...

Watched it last night finally!
Wow they did a great job setting the tone for Thanos by watching him straight up destroy Hulk. That was crazy.
Because of such proof of his badassness I was sitting there during the Thanos vs Iron Man fight thinking that they made Iron Man too powerful and that Thanos would've ended him much quicker. Thankfully they saved it with his "all that just for a drop of blood" comment, dang.

Thanos had a variable power level. Manhandles the Hulk, not something he could do in the comics, but has trouble with Steve Rogers holding him off?

OK, I saw this movie last night.

I have to say I was underwhelmed. What's the point of reducing the population of the universe by half? I mean, is EVERY planet overpopulated? For me, if you're going to solve a problem that drastically, shouldn't you demonstrate that there is, in fact, a problem to begin with?

Then there's the problem with Dr. Strange giving up the time stone. The only way to stop Thanos is to let him kill half the population of the universe? Maybe it's the only way to get a sequel, but I have to believe there was some way to go back in time and deny him some of those stones, or even to destroy one of them. As long as there's a time stone, isn't there always the possibility of a "do over"? And yes, I've seen the Simpson's time travel episode. Something always gets broken.

If those stones are so powerful, why does everyone with them end up losing them to Thanos?

I left this movie thinking I don't have to see another superhero movie for a while. Well, at least not until Deadpool 2 gets released. Darn it, they've got me right where they want me.

I don't know if anyone else noticed, but they asked Dr. Strange "how many futures have us winning" and he replies "one".

He also gives up the time stone in order to save Iron Man, so I can only assume that Dr. Strange saw a future where Iron Man was key to defeating Thanos, and therefore deemed it necessary to give up the stone.

Yeah, I saw that, but maybe Iron Man was key to winning something else, so couldn't be spared...

Every action affects all others.

Still, half the lives in the universe is a pretty high price, and you leave Thanos with the time stone, which may have enabled this entire scenario to begin with.

Dr. Strange has played out every possible scenario, including using the time stone over and over again to defeat Thanos. But the only scenario that can result in victory is handing over the time stone to Thanos ("We're in the endgame now.") and ensuring that Iron Man survives. Even as he's fading to dust, Strange says "It was the only way." So he's done everything he can do, now it's up to the remaining Avengers (and Captain Marvel) to bring home the W.

I will accept your explanation, as that's clearly the intent, but there are an infinite number of scenarios provided by the ability to travel back to any instant in time, and do that an infinite number of times. You could travel to different points in time until you lost the ability for some reason.

Thanos certainly took the low-hanging fruit by going back in time a couple of minutes and getting the vision stone before it was destroyed. He kept it simple. Though I wonder that if he could go back in time, and take the stones with him, couldn't he then save Gamora and reduce the population? Or would that invalidate his agreement for the soul stone? I never understand these things.

I haven't watched Dr Strange in forever, but I seem to recall they basically said you can't possibly go back more than a couple of minutes without royally effing everything up... Though, again, haven't seen it in forever, so...

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Thanks Frank!

Excellent point about Gamora and the time stone.

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