Devin Wilson has Earned Buzz's Respect

"I've never went from disliking a player as much as I did when I first got here to the respect that I have for him," Williams told the Times.

"He blatantly told me ... he didn't like me," Wilson said. "I kind of looked at him like, 'Okay, well, I'm not going anywhere, so you're going to either like me or you're just going to hate me for the rest of my career.'

I have a lot of respect for Devin Wilson and his VT career. I think this is something that we all assumed, but this is an interesting read hearing directly from the two. As a former athlete, I cannot imagine how tough it was to have Buzz straight up tell him he didn't like him. Shows the toughness and grit of Wilson and his ability to keep fighting for his playing time.

ESPN article

Better article with more info from Roanoke Times - Thanks Dzilla77

DISCLAIMER: Forum topics may not have been written or edited by The Key Play staff.

Comments

I guess if you're talking about grown men, they can have exchanges like these.

Quite the interesting situation. I wonder how often this happens... not just with Buzz, but anywhere.

No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

We don't love dem Hoos.

That first year at VT was the first year where Buzz adopted players on his roster. I would guess, in the future, the "not OKG"s don't get offers from VT. This might be my imagination, but I think Buzz, when he chose to be head coach for us, saw VT as an empty plot of land he could build the foundation for "His" culture on. I think that was a major draw for him. I think the one of the most important questions Buzz has to answer before he extends an offer is, "is he Our Kind of Guy" (just like a lot of programs). I doubt we see a lot of recruits that break the mold, because that "fit", I believe, is near the top of Buzz's priorities when he does extend an offer.

Just my 2 cents,

That actually explains quite a few things. I'm assuming Buzz did not think he was OKG, and hoped he would transfer if he told him the truth. Devin was a Hokie though, and instead of transferring schools tried changing sports, and then became the poster child for OKG, earning Buzz's love and respect.

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

It also explains how and why we always seem to have a transfer or 2 a year. Imagine if you came to Tech as a highly rated recruit, as they all pretty much do for basketball, only to have the coach sit you down in his office and tell you personally how much he hated you? Yeah, I can see how that would piss guys off enough to transfer out every year.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

I am not sure he would phrase it the same way for someone he recruited. I would think being blunt with someone you recruited would be "its not working out the way we planned. I don't see you getting much playing time." Would also likely end up with them transferring. I tend to think he would have a pretty good idea if he did not like someone before he signed them on scholarship.

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

Ornithine alpha-ketoglutarate (OKG)

Urban Dictionary: okg
Okg is A Shortcut for The Sentence "Okay Girl

Told him directly he didn't like him? Kind of a dick move on Buzz's part no matter what honestly

I kind of agree but we are getting the cliff notes version and not the full context of what actually transpired. BW may have told him - "honestly I don't like your style of play, it's not a good fit." And Devin may have used it as a challenge to do the things BW wanted to see out of him, etc.

I seriously doubt the whole dialog was those two statements.

Devin is a buddy of mine back when I was at tech.

This is the kinda guy he is. Doesn't shock me in the least that was his attitude

Keep calm, Gobble on

Yea, I guess I mistook his quiet/calm demeanor (from an outsider) like he kind of accepted his role as a bench guy. Glad to see him get back as a contributor and light that defensive fire.

"What are you going to do, stab me? - Quote from Man Stabbed

He's just a quiet guy. He never talked much he had plenty of loud personalities around him

Keep calm, Gobble on

Told him directly he didn't like him? Kind of a dick move on Buzz's part no matter what

You can say that again!

"What are you going to do, stab me? - Quote from Man Stabbed

Yikes....a bit cringeworthy but I'm glad it worked out for all parties involved.

Similar, but better article from the Roanoke Times (even if it is by that assclown Berman) is here.

Thanks for this...Definitely a lot more informative.

EDIT forget the reply button to dzilla 77. Adding above

"What are you going to do, stab me? - Quote from Man Stabbed

That provides a lot more, should be that link in the post.

EDIT: Same thing as the above post. Internet is hard.

Don't know if anyone has noticed or reported, but the Roanoke Times has a regular (three times a week) VT sports email package with links to their articles. No money required. I had also noticed that if you go to the Roanoke Times website, they no longer count the sports articles against their (easily circumvented) restrictions on how many articles one can read free in a month. I love me some TKP, but after reading the RT for 26 years when I lived there, and almost 6 years since I moved, I still like to read the NRV area coverage.
And not for nothing, but Berman put out a good article on Devin, and I've found several of his basketball stories to be non- objectionable.

Reel men fish on Wednesdays

and I've found several of his basketball stories to be non- objectionable.

So what you're saying is Berman has grown?

On this site? No freakin' way. I don't care to be downvoted into oblivion. Just sayin' that there might just be a shining kernel of corn in all the...nevermind.

Reel men fish on Wednesdays

He does not look any taller to me......

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

I got really frustrated with the RT when they put their on-line limit out there. I figured they just dropped it altogether when I seemed to be able to get sports articles (the only think I check the RT for)

Right click on the link, view in incognito/private mode. Doesn't count against your limit.

Or just clear cookies on the regular.

I'll be honest that's not a good look. Buzz has always seemed like the love and respect thy neighbor type to me, but I think it's completely inappropriate for a coach to say that to a player without a good reason. To dislike them for poor choices made is fine and so is not liking their playing ability (which this may be) but to say you just don't like someone seems childish and mean especially when you hold a position of power.

Recruit Prosim

DON'T YOU DARE SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT BUZZ!!! /s

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

I really think Buzz came in trying to completely overhaul the program, but he didn't want to necessarily do what he had to do to Malik Mueller to everyone. If that's alienating players by telling them that he doesn't like them, I also believe it is wrong. But Berman's article made it seem way less "I don't like you as a person," and more "I don't like your playing style."

Marshall University student.
Virginia Tech fanatic.

But Berman's article made it seem way less "I don't like you as a person," and more "I don't like your playing style."

I don't know, I read it to be the exact opposite.

And why did Williams dislike Wilson? "My game kind of fits his style — get to the rim, get fouled, play hard all the time. So it must have been my personality," Wilson said.

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

I will agree that this was not a good look for Buzz. It was, however, a really good look for Wilson. Buzz coming around is a great story, but this story is about Devin and how he persevered, and in the end, out Buzzed Buzz without challenging his authority. OKG for damn sure, sez I.

Reel men fish on Wednesdays

I do think Buzz's intention, besides just being a blunt guy anyway, was to give Devin a nice pat on the back and show how their relationship grew. However, I still don't think there's ever a good time to say something like that about a player, especially to the media. He could've phrased this better and still gotten his point across, but saying "I've never went from disliking a player as much as I did when I first got here..." is crass IMO.

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

If that's what got out and you think that's bad, imagine what else happens behind the scenes...

Keep calm, Gobble on

I've received some halftime "pep talks" that left the locker room walls stripped of paint and I have never been close to P5 level.

Can only imagine what is said.

Click here to destroy wall.

You have to hope there's nothing

Recruit Prosim

There always is

Keep calm, Gobble on

Buzz is blunt and will tell it like it is... why BS a player you didn't recruit if you don't think they're a good fit for your program? Tell them up front so they can transfer if they share the sentiment. Some of our roster responded by transferring, Wilson responded by changing Buzz's viewpoint.

I think it's the phrasing, sounds like Buzz has terrible bedside manner. Saying "I don't think you're a good fit for this culture and you don't have the skill set I'm looking for" is a lot different than "I don't really like you." The former is very direct, but clearly isn't a personal attack. The latter just sounds childish.

Perhaps the comment was different and/or missing proper context, but as reported, it just sounds weird/rude.

Twitter me

I'm a huge buzz fan and believe he has our program heading the right direction for all the right reasons, but this only makes me rout for Devin that much more.

Dude is the definition of a Hokie and we are reaping the benefits because of his relentless hard work.

Wilson graduated in December 2016 with a political science degree. He plans to graduate again in May with a second bachelor's degree in English.

With a scholarship do they get free schooling only until they get their bachelors or do they get to keep going to whatever classes they want until the scholarship up?

Their scholarship is good as long as their NCAA eligibility remains. They have 5 years to use 4 years of eligibility, and they enroll in classes year round so they can practice and work out during the summers. They accumulate a lot of credits. Most of our players graduate with multiple degrees. There are football players that have graduated with 2 B.S. and an M.S. degree.