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Apparently there are a few Hokies on the sidelines for the Eagles, according to @VTFootball

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Whom? Because I checked the roster twice and saw a bunch of UVA & WVU players😒🤬👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼

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Hokiesports: Three Tech Alums headed to Super Bowl LII with Eagles

Three former Hokies will be on the sidelines for the Eagles on Super Bowl Sunday. Eugene Chung serves as assistant offensive line/tight ends coach for the Eagles. Chung became the initial Tech offensive lineman to earn first-team All-America honors, doing so as a senior in 1991. He allowed just a single sack on 730 snaps that season. The 13th overall selection in the 1992 NFL Draft by New England, Chung also spent time with Jacksonville and Indianapolis during his playing career before embarking on a coaching career. This will be Chung's first Super Bowl appearance as a coach or as a player. His son, Kyle, currently serves as an offensive lineman for the Hokies.

Two other Tech alums are also members of Philadelphia's football staff. Keith Gray works as an assistant strength and conditioning coach for the Eagles after working for Tech in 1994. Chris Peduzzi, who lettered for the Hokies from 1992-94, serves as Philadelphia's Director of Sports Medicine/Head Athletic Trainer.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Ah, ok. Well I guess that makes it a little bit better.

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Jags seem to be holding steady on the lead.

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Always tough playing the Pats and the refs.

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Pat's have closed to within 3. Looks like the refs are FINALLY doing their job /$.

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Lmao. Sorry, couldn't figure out how to post it fully.

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F?Lk Miles Jack! F">k the Pats.

Edit: I knew it...................

And Bortells ain't got it in him.

Year 3 is coming up!

They did it! The ref$ FINALLY came through!

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If it's Minnesota and New England I the Superbowl I don't even think I'm gonna watch the game 😩

That team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I've seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked.

That's what I did last year.

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Yeah i don't even care if it's a good game. I'm pulling hard for the eagles tonight *shivers*

That team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I've seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked.

As a Steelers fan, it hurts seeing Harrison on the Pats. But man, Deebo still has it.

Pats likelihood % of winning the game just bumped up to 85.7

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Welp... this was exactly the outcome I expected, one where the Jags dominate in the trenches but lose to cheating Bill and the Goat.

Is it football season yet?

Whelp, congrats to the Jags on making it to their 2nd AFC Championship in over 2 decades. Whom was it they lost to the last time they were here again?

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It's actually their third...

Always choose joy.

Yeah, but I don't think anybody is gonna pay attention or care enough to remember that second time.

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The pats...

Again.

Ugh

Pats fan here. I see our 1 game season has now started. Been a long pre-season.

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Damn that sucks. Great season Jags. Funny how the internet is in agreement about the refs. Funny huh? 1 penalty??

Well it will be fun to watch the commercials on February 4th.

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IF they're any good. I feel like lately they've started to suck.

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I'll set the o/u at 5.5 Dilly Dilly commercials.

Each time one comes on, finish your beer.

It's weird they made a commercial making it less likely I will buy their product.

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I'm not sure I recall the last time I intentionally purchased a Bud Light.

High school or early in college.

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Looks like the puppy bowl will be the best bowl to watch once again

I don't know.... was a bit of a blowout last year. Team Ruff dominated

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Jags deciding to continually run up the middle in the fourth qtr when it hadn't worked all 2d half was ridiculous. Looked like they were playing to protect their lead as opposed to finish the game off.

I have nothing against Brady but I just get tired of seeing the Pats in the Super Bowl every other year. It like Alabama in the National Championship. Based on how the Super Bowl went last year I dont' think it matter who wins between the Vikings and Eagles. They could be up 42-0 at half and then would shut down and Brady would lead the Pats to a victory somehow.

I'll be glad when he retires as well as Belichek because I just think that guy's a douche for whatever reason.

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The Jags started losing with 0:55 left in the first half, when they got the ball back with two timeouts and took a knee twice to end the half. Way to tell your own team, as well as the Pats and the crowd, "We're going to play to not lose, rather than playing to win, because we don't think we really belong here."

"Our job as coaches is to influence young people's lives for the better in terms of fundamental skills, work ethic, and doing the right thing. Every now and again, a player actually has that effect on the coaching staff." Justin Fuente on Sam Rogers

Yeah if you're going to beat a Tom Brady led team you can't ever take your foot off the pedal offensively. I don't care how good your defense is that guy is too good.

As an Eagles fan I'm hoping Foles can come out and sling the ball like he did against the Vikes. Our defense is really good but we're gonna end up giving up more points to the Pats than we have to any team in our past 5 games.

Yeah agree with you there.

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Philly currently sits at a 77.9% chance of winning the game.

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The Jags were at 88% at one point

Man there are a lot of people here and on social media convinced the NFL is rigged

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Jags-Patriots was the widest discrepancy in penalty yards (-88 yards, Jaguars) in an AFC Championship this millennium.
Since 2000, there are only two other examples of a difference of 60+ yards in an AFC Championship.

Granted you could then say the Jags just failed to play clean enough. But then again you could say the refs pocketed lots of flags on holding and PI going the other way. I'm totally biased, but LOTS of uncalled holding.

The PI's late in the game were legit as they come, and Jalen Ramsey's was as blatant a PI as I've ever seen. It's pretty common for the best pass defenses to get lots of holding/PI's. The legion of boom led the league in those penalties several times in their hayday of being the top ranked pass defense.

I agree there were a couple questionable calls, but aside from that pi at the end of the half it felt like the refs were just letting them play but instead there's all these people convinced that the NFL had this game rigged

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Oh hope you don't think I was saying it's legitimately rigged, just seems as if the "elite" teams gain a home field advantage with refs.

Nah, have a leg I didn't mean to accuse you of thinking that, just been seeing a surprising amount of people on the internet saying that. You're right the "elite" team got a bit of help today although that seems to happen all the time in sports. We all remember the acccg against Clemson in 2016, and that's just one example. Duke and UNC basketball are pretty regular with this too. Unfortunate but it's how it goes

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It's been hard for me to arrive at this conclusion because I've been a diehard Steelers fan since forever (as a kid I would paint my t-shirts black and gold[yellow] just to have a "jersey" to play back yard ball in)..... but there's no way this shit's not rigged. I HATE to say it and I've been trying to convince myself otherwise for a long time, but there's no denying it anymore. no way does NE get away with all the several PIs they had, AND the holds plus last year's superbowl. Too many things point to it being fixed.

And to clarify, I'm not saying it is "scripted" and I think that it can be fixed and the NFL can become more authentic... but this shit is a soap opera right now starring Tom Brady.... that's it, I said it.

...And to prove I'm not biased, I think SB 40 was heavily influenced (rigged) to send Bettis off into the sunset. Steelers played horrible, and somehow won with very favorable calls.... so there.

EDIT: downvote away... not a single fuck will be given on this day.

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No downvotes from me. This is exactly the way I feel about things. Sad thing is, I barely watch the NFL as it is. I will occasionally watch Hokies in the NFL in the regular season and I usually watch the playoffs, but this shit happening every year is turning me off of watching even those. IF I actually watch this SB it will be just because I would like to see the Eagles win one.

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This is very interesting. So did you think super bowl 40 was rigged at the time that it happened? Or were there other games in the years following that made you think that way? You mentioned last year's super bowl but I can't say I remember the refs having many controversial calls in that one. I'd like to know why you thought that game was fixed. It seems pretty well established that the pats played well in the 4th and the falcons made just enough mistakes to let them back in.

Regarding this year's game, like I said in a comment earlier, the refs seemed to be letting them play. The jags weren't called for holding on any plays either. And they had a legitimate chance to win with the ball at midfield down 4 with 2 minutes to go. The refs didn't interfere on that drive, the jags simply didn't get it done. If it was rigged would they have allowed the jags to get into that situation?

The whole idea of the NFL rigging these games seems awfully hard to believe, but you're saying it can't be denied and that confuses me.

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I didn't say it "can't be denied" I said "there's no denying it anymore"... meaning on my part if you re-read that sentence. In last year's game when the Pats were down 28, I bet my friend $50 that they would end up winning because it's too easy to predict at this point. And yes, when I watch SB 40 as a senior in high school it seemed pretty obvious that the fix was in... Ben getting a TD call when he never crossed the goal line, plenty of no calls against the Steelers (similar to yesterday's game) that let them keep it very winnable.

It's okay for people to use intuition when they arrive at their conclusions about what is authentic and what is not.... when I see a good pass to an open Fournette on a wheel route and he makes no effort to catch it (not even raising his arms), plus no calls on the Pats for the same shit that the Jags are getting called for, that shit adds up (see pic below).... It usually just takes a bit of "gut feeling" when you know you're watching a fake game as opposed to a real game. Also, the opinion that "The whole idea of the NFL rigging these games seems awfully hard to believe" is one of two sides of a coin.... On the other side MANY people believe just the opposite in that there is far too much money at stake for a league (whose origins are steeped in legal sports gambling [Rooneys, Maras, etc]) to leave its games up to complete chance.

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I will give you props that as a Steelers fan you admit that super bowl 40 had some pretty controversial calls. Most steeler fans I know deny that hard. But controversial calls do not mean the game is rigged.

I asked why you thought last year's super bowl was rigged and you explained that you made a bet with a friend that the Patriots would mount a comeback and they did. That does not even come close to qualifying as evidence the game was rigged. Give me some bad calls by the refs or big plays overturned by replay or something man.

I've seen that screen shot circulated some on Twitter with everyone saying pass interference wasn't called. The actual replay would show you that this still image was taken after the ball bounced off the receivers hands, so no PI by rule. I could see facemask being called, but again if you watch the replay, the defender grabs and facemask but then lets go without pulling much or tackling him with it. Could argue that is a missed call but as far as missed facemasks go it was not egregious. As usual, cherry picking a still image from a game without context can be misleading.

I asked if there were other games over the years that seemed fixed and you haven't provided any other examples outside of yesterday's game, last year's super bowl (with no evidence of controversy), and a game from 12 years ago.

And now you're suggesting that Leonard fournette was actually in on it too because he didn't make an attempt on that one pass? This is a whole different level of claiming the NFL is rigged. If other teams were actually throwing games for the nfls agenda, word would get out. So many of these players can't keep out of trouble or keep their mouths shut when it can affect their salaries but you think they've all kept quiet about shaving points or fixing games? Was it fake when bortles and fournette we're crying after the game ended? Sounds more like you've got a tinfoil hat on dude.

Although I guess if you're saying your "gut feeling" and "intuition" are telling you that these games are faked then I probably won't be able to convince you otherwise in a TKP debate. I for one do not think the NFL is rigged. Yes, popular teams with stars playing in their home stadium tend to get a few more calls to go their way, but that is true in all sports, college or pro. To me that is far different than the game being rigged.

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Yep you got it man. Look, my reply wasn't to argue, and I certainly am not gonna try to compile a list of all NFL controversies to support rigging games; there are entire websites and internet communities dedicated to that exact thing. So if you really want to look at the evidence yourself it's not hard to find. My feeling, though, is that you just want to bait me into arguing why it seems to me and PLENTY of other tin-foil hat wearing folks that many (not all) high-stakes games are not legitimate. Nobody can deny the linkage between legal sports betting and the origins of the NFL, it is black and white history. And while that of course does not qualify as proof or even hard evidence of rigging games, it would be naive to believe that every play and every game in NFL history is clean as a whistle, and so with that one has to wonder just how far it goes.

In any case, enjoy your Super Bowl man, didn't mean to ruffle any feathers with my opinion as my intent was never to come here and convince anyone of anything. Everyone has their own lenses with which they view these things... at the end of the day, I hope that you are correct because I love the sport at both the collegiate and pro levels... it's just that I'm not as convinced as you are.

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Genuinely curious to read some of those websites - could you link me any of them?

I wasn't intending to start a fight or anything with these comments - just seen a lot of examples used recently to suggest that the NFL is playing fixed games and a lot of them didn't make sense to me. That's why I was asking you for examples, so if that counts as baiting you then sure, that's what I was doing.

I do agree that it isn't all as clean as a whistle, and the league has preferred outcomes and wants to make as much money as possible, just seems like a big leap to assume they are rigging games when there isn't much evidence to that. Like I said there's bias and agendas and home calls in all sports - do you think they are rigged or is it just the NFL? All of us on this site love college football but theres plenty of shady stuff that goes on with it from recruiting to illegal benefits to scumbag coaches. I can still get a lot of enjoyment out of it and not feel like it's this big corrupt agency that's lying to us all.

I mean hell, what if some other college football fan was saying "well, the NCAA can make more money off the Virginia Tech football fanbase than the UVA fanbase, so clearly they are rigging the Commonwealth Cup games - there's just no way a P5 team with more money would lose to their rival 14 times in a row. Oh but I don't have any evidence, there's just a lot of people who agree with me"
I'm not a pats fan but i think the analogy still works haha. I realize you're not interested in discussing this anymore - just saying that a lot of these conspiracy theorists sound like NFL versions of that quote I just made up.

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New England vs Philadelphia in the Super Bowl

A very underrated story line going into this game is how dominant Nick Foles is in the playoffs in his career. Career postseason QBR over 100. If he keeps it up in Minny, he very well could win this thing. He just thoroughly shredded the NFLs #1 defense.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Sooo who is the Eagles QB next year and who gets a crazy free agency deal and doesn't meet this years stats?

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Wentz will still be the QB for Philly next year. Teams will try to pick up Foles, I don't know if he will take it or not since he was about to retire after being let go by the Rams (after Chip Kelly went full retard and traded him to the Rams) and Pederson asked him to come to Philly to let him get his confidence back even though he knew he will be a backup. I hope Foles stays to help the team, but if he does leave I wish him the best.

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This can't be an actual question, can it?

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Win or lose, Foles is the backup next year, as he's still signed through next season. If anything, it's likely some teams in need of a quarterback come calling this offseason for a trade.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

I imagine it's an ideal situation if they don't need to rush Wentz back given how late in the season his injury occurred. I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't back to open next season but he is clearly the franchise QB.

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Wentz is apparently already ahead of schedule, coming off crutches this week. They're saying he could be ready before the preseason gets underway.

What's crazy about this Eagles team is that Wentz was just the latest in a series of key injuries they sustained this year, and they're still in the Super Bowl. They have the look of a franchise that could be sitting atop the division and conference for a while to come. People keep asking who will be the next power after Brady retires and Belichek hangs it up, and we might already know that answer.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

As far as Wentz's recovery, ProFootballDoc had a good article about the situation and stated his goal with isolated ACL injury patients is "to have them off crutches, into a shorter functional brace and walking normally, bending their knee at two weeks post-surgery." As the article explain, Wentz's recovery seems to be fine so far but the timeline suggests additional damage to the knee. I'm pretty sure the Eagles would be the dumbest organization of all time to rush back their franchise QB for the preseason 8 months after his injury. But hey, you never know with sports teams.

As far as the "Eagles might be the next Patriots" bit, most would have said the Seahawks were the most likely over the last five years, but we've seen the Falcons, Cowboys, Raiders, Panthers, and Packers show flashes without the same sustained success. I see no reason to "crown their ass" because of one year.

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When did the Cowboys show flashes?

They stink, and all the bandwagon fans they have that kept trying to tell me that Prescott was better than Wentz are coming back to reality:

I know people hate the Cowboys but seriously? Last year they were 13-3 and the #1 seed in the NFC behind a dominant offensive line and rookie QB and RB whom both made the Pro Bowl. I get that they disappointed in the playoffs but most felt they were primed for the future, just like people are saying about the Eagles right now.

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I don't know that you can argue that the cowboys showed flashes of dominance without the same sustained success of the pats when the reality is that they had one good regular season and none of the sustained success the patriots have had. Let's see them win 10+ games in consecutive years (hasn't happened since 1991-96) or make the playoffs in consecutive years (06-07) before we start talking about "flashes of sustained dominance".

  • the Packers made it to the playoffs 8 years running (with 7 seasons of 10+ wins) before Rodgers broke his collarbone this year
  • the Seahawks made it to the playoffs 5 years running before this season with 2 SB appearances (1 win)
  • I don't know that I'd consider the Raiders, Falcons, or Panthers as having shown sustained dominance, either

EDIT: I read the above comment all wrong woops

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I feel like I should further clarify what I meant when I said the Eagles are primed to be the next power team. My thinking here is from multiple angles, so I'll probably ramble a bit, apologies in advance.

I really like the core they have set up. They are bolstered by youth all over the team, with many of their key positions being filled by guys who have more years ahead of them than behind. Their offensive line, even with the injury to Jason Peters, has proven to be a big strength for the team over the course of the season. In a game where most teams have holes you can expose on the line, the Eagles one is pretty solid. At receiver, they're very young outside of Jeffrey, but they have him locked up for the next while. And Ertz has quickly emerged as one of the leagues best young TEs over the past couple seasons. At RB, while you may have some concerns with Ajayi and Blount to be able to play full seasons going forward, they do have what they believe to be their next RB already on the roster in Clement.

Defensively, they're already one of the best in the league, and its on the back of a lot of youth. Yes, Chris Long and Malcolm Jenkins get a lot of press, but you're looking at a DL that will be anchored by Fletcher Cox and Derek Barnett for the next 5-10 years. And with LB Jordan Hicks healthy next year, what was already a good defense should get even better. And they have Sidney Jones waiting in the fold for his chance at Safety while also bringing in Darby to solidify the corners before the season.

But what I find the most interesting, and what leads me to believe the Eagles have a legitimate chance at having some staying power, is that they're at this spot this year despite losing their starting kicker (Caleb Sturgis), their primary kick returner (Darren Sproles), their starting linebacker (Jordan Hicks), their 9-time pro bowl LT (Jason Peters), their starting safety (Chris Maragos), and their MVP candidate QB (Carson Wentz). On top of being able to get at least some of that talent back next year (who knows if Sturgis will return with Jake Elliott's play, and I've been hearing rumors that both Sproles and Peters may retire after the Super Bowl) they also are going to be keeping their coaching staff intact. And, in a season where they lost their LT and QB, both of which were elite level players at arguably the 2 most important spots on offense, they continued to play at an incredibly high level, showing that their success is due to a mesh where the coaching puts them in a place to win and the talent pushes them over the top. Oh, and they have 20 of 22 starters signed through next season.

I really think they have a window right now where they could be the top team, at least in the NFC, for the next 3-4 years. They dealt with the kind of injury bug this year that would cause most teams to crumble, and they're in the Super Bowl with the best record in the NFL. And they have who appears to be one of the next crop of super elite QBs already in the fold in Wentz. The only thing I don't necessarily see happening is the rest of the NFC East crumbling away like the AFC East did. Then again, with Washington seemingly ready to jettison Cousins, the Giants seemingly not having a clue on what they're doing with Eli and their future, and Dallas regressing like they did this year with Dak looking pedestrian for the majority of the season, who knows...

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

we've seen the Falcons, Cowboys, Raiders, Panthers, and Packers show flashes without the same sustained success.

Let's see them win 10+ games in consecutive years ... before we start talking about "flashes of sustained dominance".

I'm confused. I thought shakeitallabout's point was that the Cowboys had shown flashes but NOT sustained success. But gobblegobble seems to have turned that into "flashes OF sustained dominance." I thought "flashes" and "sustained" were more or less opposite?

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Ya i read that comment all wrong

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I'll give you Zeke and the offensive line in 2016, but we saw this year first hand what Dak is without Zeke playing, and it wasn't pretty. From Week 14 until the 2nd half of the final game of the season when the Eagles had their backups in, Carson Wentz had more touchdown passes AFTER he tore his ACL than Prescott did.

Their offensive line took a bit of a step back as well. And while their running game hide a lot of it when they went 13-3, their defense was always suspect and has not improved much.

That's not me being a Cowboys hater. That's just the reality of it. As long as Jerry Jones is running things and Garrett is a "yes man" coach, they are not anywhere close to showing any kind of sustained success.

As great as Big Dick Nick has been there is simply no way that Wentz doesnt return to being the starter, youth, upside, contract situation, and performance over multiple seasons under the current staff consistently all lean towards him.

So this one isn't going quite as well for my Vikes, but skol forever.

Just came here to say Fuck Chris Long.

Used to hate him, but regardless of team, much respect to anyone who goes out and donates his entire year salary to charity.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Eagles/Patriots means my Facebook feed is going to be full of shit until next season.

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Ironically, that was the best game they played all season, and they had some very dominating efforts. #1 defense in the NFL got shredded, although I think the Eagles defense is better as it is.

Look how many people that weren't on this team last year played big roles:
Foles - best game of his career, better than 7 TD game
Blount
Ajayi
Alshon
Patrick Robinson
Chris Long
Barnett
Brandon Brooks
Torrey Smith

All this without an MVP caliber QB. Eagles are going to be good for awhile. 19 of 22 starters under contract for next year.

The eagles opened as the biggest SB underdog in like 20 years outside of the Arizona when they played Pittsburgh. And I'm already seeing near unanimous statements that the Pats will just run away with the game. And you know what, I say bring it on. This Eagles team is feeding on people doubting them, and the more people tell them they don't deserve to grace the field with New England, the more I think they'll win. They have the better defense, they have a dominant front 4 who can get pressure without the blitz, they have the better running game, they have a comparable set of receivers, and Foles has shown against some legitimately good defenses that he can take his play to another level when the stage gets big.

People are just so wrapped up in the Brady and Belichek aura, and for good reason, and they're just missing how good this Eagles team is. Bad offenses don't humiliate the #1 defense like the Birds did today. The Pats have a buzzsaw waiting for them in Minny and nobody is recognizing it.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

I have full confidence the Eagles can and will win this game.

Just compare the rosters. With the exception of QB (and granted that one is a pretty big discrepancy), and TE (and honestly Gronk vs. Ertz isn't a gaping chasm, Ertz can play), the Eagles roster is quite simply better.

Their offensive line is better. The defensive line isn't even close in favor of the Eagles. The secondaries are pretty close, with the Eagles having a better safety tandem. (Although the Pats defensive numbers are much worse than the Eagles throughout the season, even with the Eagles playing a ton of games where teams could only pass for about half the game). Really not a huge advantage in terms of wide receivers on either side. The Eagles group is so night and day from what they ran out last year its not even funny. And at running back if Ajayi runs like he did last night, I would take him over any other RB that will be in the game.

From a coaching standpoint, obviously the Hooded One deserves every single platitude received, but I'm drinking from the Doug Mug after these last 2 games. I know he is a new head coach, but the guy just seems to know what to do to get the most out of these guys. And more importantly, they trust and believe in him to do it.

I told my wife if they scored in that opening drive after the half, the game was over. And that crazy visor wearing, side line glaring, salt and pepper son of a gun called a flea flicker! And Nick "Joe Montana" Foles dropped it right into the basket. I turned and just said to her 'We're going to the Super Bowl" (fun trivia, name the only 2 QBs in NFl history to have 2 straight playoff games with QB ratings of 125+....Joe Montana and Nick Foles)

People can sleep on the Eagles all they want, call it silly, call it a cliché, but its clearly something that is resonating with this team that "no one believes in us". They have every intangible you could possibly ask for to make a run, along with a lot of really good tangibles too.

Side note, Nick Foles is 2-1 in the playoffs and has 100+ rating in all 3 starts. And the one lost, he left the field with a lead in that one too. Sleep on this team at your own peril at this point.

Side note, Nick Foles is 2-1 in the playoffs and has 100+ rating in all 3 starts. And the one lost, he left the field with a lead in that one too. Sleep on this team at your own peril at this point.

And this is why the Eagles should feel real good heading into the Super Bowl. Nick Foles has played in 3 playoff games and has been excellent in them all. The only one where it looked like he was a little off was against Atlanta where the weather wreaked havoc on both him and Matt Ryan and he still managed to have an excellent rating. And then against the #1 defense he was dropping absolute dimes to his recievers in the secondary. Both bombs to Smith were perfect, and the pocket escapability on the Jeffrey throw was Wentztastic. At this point, the man has proven himself as someone who can take his level of play to an elite level as the stage gets bigger. If you're expecting Foles to be the reason the Eagles lose, from what he has shown in his postseason career, you're gonna have a bad time.

And this is why I think the Eagles are sneakily the better team in this game. Outside of QB, they really have the better roster (I'll even give the edge at TE to Ertz, that man has been dominant this year), and the advantage of Brady over Foles isn't nearly as vast in this game that the names would lead you to believe.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Two most hated teams/fanbases in the sport going to the Superbowl, as if we needed another reason to boycott...

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“I served in the United States Navy"

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Two thoughts:

1. As a Giants fan, this Super Bowl is a horrible matchup. I don't think I can root for either one of these teams.

2. The original thread threw me off in "Active Discussions" because HokieMacGruber26 is avatar-less.

Im also a giants fan, and I get way too much joy out of the fact that the eagles have never won a super bowl, so I'll be rooting for the pats to keep it that way.
Besides, the pats are already the powerhouse team of the NFL at the top of the mountain, so things won't really change much if they win another (kind of like bama winning the CFP again). But man once the eagles win a super bowl the fan base that is widely regarded as the worst in the league will become so much worse.
Go pats

Virginia Tech School of Architecture Class of 2014
Fan of Hokies, Ravens, NY Giants, Orioles

I'm right there with you Joe. Big Blue till I hit the grave. Cannot imagine rooting for either of these teams, and honestly I don't see myself even watching the game. That's not sour grapes or anything, it's just this game doesn't interest me at all. I will rest comfortably knowing that the Giants were the only team to knock Tom Baby off his high horse. 18-1.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

2. The original thread threw me off in "Active Discussions" because HokieMacGruber26 is avatar-less.

I know. Sorey, & I'm working on this. I've been wanting to try out new avatars (switch it up), but everytime I put a new one in, it was blurry, unfocused & didn't fit (probably because it wasn't within the 85x85 specifications). I'll figure it out.

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Giants fan here as well, and I'll be rooting for the Pats. I'd rather root for historic greatness than the Eagles. Something about Brady/Belichick being 6-2 in the Super Bowl with two wins over the Eagles but only two losses being to the Giants makes me smile a lot more than if the Eagles win.

Chem PhD '16