Adonis to the Skins

For a 6th Round Draft pick

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Torrian Gray strikes again. #DBU.

I'm not against this.

Once again, I love the fact that the 'Skins get another Hokie but it pains me to see them having to play for Snyder.

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

Settle, Stroman and Adonis all on my team, this will be just like old times.
I only wish the Skins still had Kendall Fuller.

I really never understood that move, trading a talented and productive young corner...😔

Fugazy

beats having no quarterback?

Chem PhD '16

Alex Smith can't throw for more than 20 yards.

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He was the #1 deep ball thrower in 2017

He was the #1 deep ball thrower in 2017

Who cares?

And I'm happy he's going to the Washington Snyders were his career can FINALLY die.

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What has Alex Smith ever done to cause you to root for his career to die?

I dunno. I just find him & any kind of success in the pros he's had to be really, really annoying (I'm just weird like that. Don't judge me. We each/all have our shit that tics us off).

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So irrational. Dude's had a squeaky clean career despite being run out of the 49ers after taking them to the playoffs so he went and balled out in Kansas City. Why is his success any different than other QBs?

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So irrational.

I won't argue or deny that. But it's sports. Part of the deal.

Why is his success any different than other QBs?

See previous response "[because] I'm just weird like that." Does everything have to make sense to you? [Btw, if my response came off as douchey in anyway twds you, that wasn't my intention]

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Started playing for the Redskins is enough for me.

"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders via Ricky Bobby

Those kind of stats didn't convince people of JJ either. Good luck.

Alex Smith is competent and serviceable at worst

Chem PhD '16

The problem with Alex Smith is that he hasn't been on a time that respects him. And going to the Redskins isn't going to change that. (And I say that as a Redskins fan.)

Alex Smith has small hands and smells like cabbage.

He's a carny?

The Poster Formerly Known As The Spirit Of Bernard Basham

He's a carny?

Second career after the 2018-19 season.

Year 3 is coming up!

The skins had a good player at a critical position under a rookie contract and let that slip away.

Ah yes, they definitely mismanaged Kirk Cousins's contract situation

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Kirk was punished for not being RG3. He would have had to leave no doubt though his play for Synder to admit he was worthy of a Top 5 QB contract. Kirk made enough mistakes for Synder to say "see, he isn't worth the money".

I remembered when Cousins was drafted in the fourth round and thinking they got a steal. Then in the preseason, he absolutely played better than RGIII and knew he would be starting someday.

This feels super revisionist. Do you remember that season? RGIII looked amazing, he single-handedly won a few games. Cousins looked fine at that point, but there is no way he was better than RGIII was for that season.

Then in the preseason, he absolutely played better than RGIII and knew he would be starting someday.

emphasis mine

Chem PhD '16

Thanks, that was my point as well. In the preseason and arguably against inferior competition, he still looked good.

Speaking as a former Titans season ticket holder - So did Vince Young.

The young athletic QBs can fly on that athleticism in the NFL for only so long until enough tape is put together to find a weakness/tendency and then exploit it. If they don't progress as a passer, which neither did, their careers teeter out pretty quick.

He looked good in preseason and in the games he filled in for RG3 in his first season. Year two when the Pats came to Richmond for a combined camp, Belichick said Kirk was the better QB in camp for the skins.

Snyder stuck to his ways and should've paid Kirk early.

I saw the redskins/pats scrimmage in richmond. Pats defense made rg me me me look like a high schooler. Cousins came in and took them down the field. Belecheat did say that Washington was playing the wrong guy.

The skins had a good player at a critical position under a rookie contract and let that slip away.

Signature Snyder "success" move.

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As long as the fans purchase skins jersey's, Snyder will keep changing players.

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Truth. Snyder's positioned himself very nicely. One of the savviest business minds alive. All part of his "winning formula."

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Happy that another Hokie is in the NFL

Sad that he'll be with the bottomless pit known as Washington

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

I hate that the Giants have to play all the Hokies in the NFC East

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Love the Sam Beal pickup for the Giants, we need depth at the CB spot. This kid was one of the highest rated CB's coming into the 2018 season. Some stupid sites are saying they are surprised cause the Giants selected a kid with red flags. What red flags? Essentially he got behind on some credit hours and chose to take summer courses to play catch up. That's the red flag? WTH. He left for the supplemental because he wasn't sure if the NCAA was going to withdraw his eligibility.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Love to see more Giants fans!

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VTF, thought Gobble and I were the only ones on this site. The more the merrier!

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Joe Lanza is also a Giants fans, at least that's what I gather from his Bio.

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Yeah, I like the pick too

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From a marketing standpoint, I feel like Adonis would make a great addition to Big Blue.

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Love that he got drafted, hate that it's with that idiot Snyder. Edit: so basically exactly what MaroonX2 said

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

Yahoo sports article with Adonis' explanation of everything.

Taking ownership

Tweedy can run like a dadgum antelope or whatever. I like to use scalded dog. Do antelopes lumber? Cheetah, OK. He runs like a cheetah. He's fast. - Bud Foster

On that front, Alexander makes you want to believe. He has taken total ownership of his failings, which is the first thing NFL teams look for when it comes to digging into a player's character. He has even praised the coaches and academic support staff at Virginia Tech for getting him as far as they did in school.

"I can't thank them enough, really — it was like I was their child, their son," Alexander said. "They were putting so much energy into helping me do good ... they got me on the right track because I was definitely heading to destruction. They took the time to help, even when they're supposed to be on vacation, they were sitting there with me, making sure I'm all good."

Suppose we can give the support staff a pass now.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Glad to see that the staff put the effort in the right place....

But seriously, AA acknowledges the staff's above and beyond effort, which is good. But he squandered his opportunity which...is not really a good look for him .

The guy will be playing on Sundays rather than painting ships in the Norfolk yard, I wouldn't say he squandered the opportunity, just didn't get everything he could have out of it.

Come to Blacksburg and see what the Hokie Pokie is really all about

rather than painting ships in the Norfolk yard

what do you have against the Norfolk yard?

I have nothing against it. There were rumors that Marcus Vick was employed there painting ships after all his football prospects burnt out.

Come to Blacksburg and see what the Hokie Pokie is really all about

"I'll definitely find a veteran player that does everything right and model myself as a person after him," Alexander said.

So, not knowing the Redskins roster that well, who's that going to be, you think?

Edit: Should've been under nubinile's post above. OWA. TAN00. BIAM.

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Greg Stroman probably

edit: that was /s, but it'll probably be Scandrick. maybe Norman? both have had useful careers

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Hopefully Swearinger or Mason Foster.............

Wish it was D Hall :/

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Post removed after reading more about Adonis' situation leading up to supplemental draft.

FIRST DOWN, HOKIES!

Why would it matter? Dude's still a Hokie.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

VT Football Twitter has had Adonis on blast during the lead-up to the supplemental draft, so if he does well I would probably expect to see him on HokieVision.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

He was not kicked off the team.

Any chance Adonis and Stroman both make the active roster? Seems like slim chances to me since the Skins seem to like Adonis more at CB than S.

Skins seemed to be keen on Stroman's return abilities to give some backup to Crowder.

They also like Quinn as a returner and he seems to have a clearer path to the active roster with a bunch of unproven wrs than Stroman does with the dbs.

I hope Stroman makes it but yguess is either he or Adonis end up on the practice squad.

Can someone explain the supplemental draft to me?

What does it mean he went in the 6th round? Surely there wasn't 5 rounds of players before him picked this way.

Players who for one reason or another are eligible to play in the NFL but weren't for the normal NFL draft can submit for the supplemental draft. Teams then go through a draft, but they do not have to take anyone. If they do select a player then they no longer have the rights to their draft pick from that round in the NFL draft the next year. For instance, Adonis was taken in the 6th round by the Redskins so they will lose their 6th round pick next April.
This link does a good job of explaining everything for this year.

"That move was slicker than a peeled onion in a bowl of snot." -Mike Burnop

So you just lose that pick? Say hypothetically I take someone in the sup draft round 1. Will there only be 31 1st round picks next year, or does someone else get that pick?

I don't know how accurate this is, but how it was explained to me is that it's more of an auction than a draft.

I.e the skins wanted Adonis, so they "bid" a 6th round pick for him, and no one else "outbid" so they got him. They will now lose one of their 6th round picks for next year, but I think they had 3 total that were collected through trades, so it's not a huge deal.

I don't think there have been many, if any, people who have been 1st or 2nd rounders in the supplemental draft.

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I believe the Giants took a QB in the first round sometime around 1992... Dan Brown maybe? Also, prety sure Josh Gordon was a 2nd rounder.

Before this year there had been something like 42 supplemental draft picks so now there have been about 44.

Not sure what round he was but Chris Carter has had by far the most successful career of any supplemental pick.

The full list of NFL supplemental draft picks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_supplemental_draft_picks

I feel like the concept of the draft and supplemental draft probably changed somewhere in the 90s, so no one's gone higher than a 2nd round pick since the mid-90s.

I think my favorite reason for being in the sup draft is Billy Mullins in 1980: "declared ineligible when it was discovered that he gained credits simultaneously from four junior colleges in the fall of 1977 in order to gain entry to USC".

Dude was busy.

There is nothing in the world like Thursday night in Blacksburg!

It cost them a 2019 6th round pick.

"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders via Ricky Bobby

Anyone know what happens with Mook now? His release from the team happened this week, and I do not think he was up for auction in the supplemental draft. Does he have to sit out there year before reentering next years draft?

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Is there anything in the CBA that would prevent him from becoming a free agent and signing on for camps with whomever he would like? That is how it works with all the undrafted players from the primary draft. It would seem to me that this only prevents him from receiving any guarantees that come with being drafted.

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I think you have to have been eligible for the draft to be signed as an undrafted free agent. Since MR wasn't released until after the notification date for the supplemental draft, he wasn't technically eligible, and would have to wait until next year. Sucks, I know, but...

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Makes sense. He also has that little legal issue to deal with, that I didn't know about when I posted this.

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I think if Alexander wants to make the roster next season for the Skins, he is going to really need to do some work on making himself a special teams standout so he provides them depth in the secondary as well as special teams functions. If not he is likely going to be facing a potential trip to practice squad for a team initially. He just isn't polished enough especially against double moves to beat out the projected starters, even as weak as they are in the secondary for the Redskins. His future there would have been a lot brighter if the Skins hadn't picked up Orlando Scandrick in the offseason. The big plus for Alexander if he convinces them he is a Safety than that group has serious injury history ahead of him so requires the Skins to keep greater depth at the position.

that group has serious injury history

You mean the entire team? Since Gruden took over, every season has seen the team ravaged by injuries. The injuries also tend to be ligament and muscle injuries too which are linked to strength and conditioning.

Sorry for the little rant. Anytime I hear about injuries on the Redskins roster, I get triggered.

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Redskins have replaced their medical staff multiple times in the last four years but not addressed the Strength and Conditioning coaches much. Chad Englehart isn't getting it done. He has been head man for three years now and been on staff for six more before that as an assistant. I believe that two of his assistants this season are new though so maybe that will help. Deuce Gruden went to the Raiders to work for Jon and another left to go back to a college coordinator job I think.

Thanks for the information. I had no clue what was going on in terms of the medical staff and strength and conditioning staff. Seems like the one constant is Englehart. The medical staff is there to treat injuries. The strength and conditioning staff is there to help prevent injuries, specifically ones that can be prevented with proper stretching and weight training. It makes sense.

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