OT: Commonwealth Clash. Round 3...FIGHT!!

As students hit the beaches for spring break, the rest of us chumps are sitting in our cubicles grasping at something, anything, to talk about during the long, dark off season. Recruiting, the combine, the upcoming bball tournaments, and the draft can only do so much to feed the addiction. Thankfully, Virginia529 has put together a completely contrived sports competition between us and the fighting jeffersons up the road to keep us interested in all the filler sports once football ends.

HISTORY
Leading up to the 2005-2006 school year, something called the Commonwealth Challenge was contrived to keep track of head to head results between LOLUVa and Tech in varsity sports. The idea was to give credit to the school with the most successful athletic program, not just the one who could win the Commonwealth Cup for football (Tech). The Challenge only lasted two years as it was cancelled in the wake of the 2007 shootings.

Fast forward seven years and just as many VT football victories over LOLUVa to 2014 and the Challenge was resurrected as "The Commonwealth Clash." I can only imagine the organizers watched year after year as the wahoos' losing streak worsened and felt that they needed something to officially recognize the "one trick pony" argument their fans default to.

It worked, for a while. LOLUVa won the first two years (14.5-7.5 and 14-7). Last year, the final tally was 11-11, but Tech won the tie breaker, having secured 4 ACC championships in the relevant sports to LOLUVa's lone applicable championship.

Now back to this year. The clash has three rounds per year: Fall, Winter, and Spring.

FALL
Fall wraps up right after we hand the wahoos their yearly football beating. Tech has steadily improved in this area. The first two years, we managed a measly 1.5 points (1 for football, 0.5 for splitting volleyball). This year, we posted wins in football, volleyball, and cross country (both sexes) to take a 4-1 lead into the winter.

WINTER
Winter has traditionally been a slight win for Tech. Every year we've gotten most of our points between December and March. This year, however, we split points with LOLUVa. We managed to split basketball (not bad considering the year they're having), dominate wrestling (despite half our starters being down with the flu), and secure both men's and women's indoor track & field. Unfortunately, we gave up the point for men's swimming and diving for the first time since the clash began. Who knew?

SPRING
So that brings us to the last segment of this year's clash. There are two ways of looking at spring sports. One is that LOLUVa really has our number in the spring. Seriously, it's like they picked spring sports just to cater to the LOLUVa demographic: Men's golf, women's golf, men's tennis, women's tennis, women's lacrosse. Sure, there's men's and women's track & field, softball, and baseball, but, of those, we only consistently do well in softball. Every year, LOLUVa has posted half their points from spring sports.
The other way to look at spring is that we are getting better every year. In the first year, we managed 1.5 points. Then we scraped together two points in year two. Year three was our best showing with three whole points, which was just enough to get the tie (and the win!).

Just like last year, we go into Spring holding on to a 3 point lead. If we can hold onto the ground we gained last year (points in softball and both men's and women's track & field) and pick up a surprise point (women's lacrosse?) we will have won our second clash in 4 years.

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I don't like our chances at taking the Clash this year, but the fact that this thing is coming down to the wire is all we need to shatter the myth that UVa dominates us is all sports so they don't care about the gigantic losing streak in football.

EDIT: Should this end up a tie, where do we stand on ACC championships?

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I believe we are all tied up at 1-1. We have wrestling, they have women's swimming & diving. However, I'm not sure how they figure basketball (regular season or tournament) and that looks to be another notch in the LOLUVa column. I think we need to win this year outright, which is not looking fantastic.

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What is the fan point?

they had some sort of fan participation competition. I am not aware of the details, but apparently it wasn't worth keeping around.

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We're still a couple weeks away, but I wanted to update this with a schedule:
Baseball: 4/6-4/8. Winner of the series gets a point (get 0.5 each for a split).
Women's Tennis: 4/7. Winner gets a point.
Softball: 4/13-4/15. Winner of the series gets a point (get 0.5 each for a split).
Men's golf: 4/20-4/22. Higher finish in the ACC tourney gets a point.
Women's golf: 4/20-4/22. Higher finish in the ACC tourney gets a point.
Women's lacrosse: 4/21. Winner gets a point.
Men's Tennis: 4/22. Winner gets a point.
Men's Outdoor Track & Field: 5/10-5/12. Higher finish in the ACC tourney gets a point.
Women's Outdoor Track & Field: 5/10-5/12. Higher finish in the ACC tourney gets a point.

To reiterate, we are up by 3 before the spring games. We need 4 points to win outright.

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Our campaign for a second consecutive clash victory took a hit this weekend (table updated above). We dropped women's tennis 1-6, which wasn't a huge surprise.

I had hoped we'd be able to steal a point in baseball. We got skunked in game 1, 0-9. Then we managed to pull off the second half of the double header Friday 5-4. Sunday, we fell behind 2-0 in the third, but then managed to put together a 5-0 performance between the 4th and 7th innings that included a heart attack inducing series in the 5th where LOLUVa had the bases loaded and a full count where we managed the 3rd out at the plate. Unfortunately, that was all we could muster offensively (or defensively for that matter). We gave up 2 runs in the 8th to make it 5-4. Then in the 9th, the wheels really came off. It started well. We struck out the first batter. Then we managed a walk followed by a pitching change after getting behind 2-0 to the next batter. The closer's very first pitch was driven down the first base line which should have been good for a double, except that the outfielder misjudged the bounce off the wall and the runner made it to third and the tying run came in. The very next batter bounced one over second for what I guess would have been a single, but it didn't matter because the winning run sauntered in from third. It was a sad day.

Anyway, this brings the count to 6.5-7.5. We have 7 more opportunities to score points. Next weekend, we meet in softball, which I expect to be a win for the good guys. The following weekend looks to be a rough one: Men's and Women's golf, Men's Tennis, and Women's lacrosse. Women's lacrosse is looking the best there. We are ranked 14, but, unfortunately, LOLUVa is ranked 10th, so it's not like it's a gimme. After that, the only points remaining are for men's and women's track the second weekend in May.

Here's what I see as our best case scenario:
Softball - Tech
Men's Golf - LOLUVa
Women's Golf - LOLUVa
Women's Lacrosse - Tech
Men's Tennis - LOLUVa
Men's Outdoor Track & Field - Tech
Women's Outdoor Track & Field - Tech
Final score: Tech - 11.5, LOLUVa - 9.5

And, for reference, we are behind on conference championships. LOLUVa has basketball and Women's Swimming & Diving. We have wrestling. So unless we managed to pull off two more championships this spring than they do, we will not win on tie breakers.

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Congratulations.
You've made me care about women's lacrosse.

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They are doing well this year.

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#14 after a double OT winner against 'Cuse Saturday night.
(So cool they get to play in the new indoor practice facility.)

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They're also currently T-2 in the ACC at 4-1 in conference. I assume UNC has the tiebreak since they beat us a couple weeks ago.

Chance to move up with an upcoming game @ BC, who is undefeated on the year and at the top of the ACC standings at 5-0. Still an amazing turnaround for the program.

You are more confident about VT Softball than I am. Both programs are very down. Toss-up series, imho. On the other hand, VT Lacrosse just keeps getting stronger. Sung has done wonders there.

I think the tie-breaker should be spring game attendance.......

Official word from VaSports-no Spring Game, it's the final Practice on 4/28

at 2:00, much like last year. Won't take long, as they promote the Clemson baseball game at 4, so they plan for fans to be out of Scott Stadium before then.

Awfully optimistic of them to expect fans in Scott Stadium.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

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Just looking at some up coming events and UVA Men's Tennis isn't the same as last year. VT Tennis seems ahead of them based on results, but they are both tied at 5-5 ACC records. VT has Men's Tennis and Lacrosse as at least toss-up matches. Then if VT can continue their domination in track, they could win handily.

From Le Sabre (I shit you not):

What's bad is not counting WSoccer when there's no head-to-head (because the ACCT doesn't include all schools). That means another of our national power programs sometimes doesn't count in the measure of respective athletic programs. It's bad enough that field hockey and women's rowing NEVER get counted.

Sometimes, if you ever think that the stereotype of wahoos is unfair, just take a jaunt over to Le Sabre and realize that, no, this is what their fans really care about.

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They're more than welcome to spot us the cash to field more varsity teams. If memory serves our club field hockey program is pretty strong and has been lobbying the athletic department for a varsity team for some time.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

I'm not sure even UVA is dumb enough to pay us to field more varsity teams to beat them

Hey, they're dumb enough to pay for their football program. Anything's possible. Also, if any wahoos would like the opportunity to buy a stake in ownership of a grid square and headlight fluid manufacturing company, I know a guy.

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It's always a good thing when UVa loses.

Only event this weekend is the softball series with LOLUVa. I gotta admit that I had no idea we were DEAD LAST in the ACC for softball. LOLUVa is just one spot above us so this could be a close game, if not a particularly well played one. Stay tuned...

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I'm not sure what happened to softball over the years. Went from only team to beat US Olympic softball team to last in ACC.

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Went from only team to beat no-hit US Olympic softball team

FTFY

But yeah... we fell off a cliff. We had a ton of promise when Tinscher was playing and we could never capitalize.

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Vick:Football::Tinscher:Softball?

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Hokies win the first softball game 6-2!

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Due to bad weather forecast for Sunday, they've moved game three to this afternoon as well. So the ladies will play a double header to round out the series. In game, two, at the top of the 3rd, we are currently down 2-0, but, in the second, we did manage to load the bases before stranding all the runners, so there's room for offense, for sure. Also in the 2nd, LOLUVa managed to get runners on 2nd and 3rd before we managed to strike out the remaining batters. So, really, this game could go either way.

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Hokies win 9-4, so they get the point toward Commonwealth Clash!

Sweet. Now we play for the sweep for bragging rights!

EDIT: The ladies beat LOLUVa in game three, 3-2 for the sweep. Suck on that, LOLUVa!

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Updated the chart. With the softball sweep, we got our first point of the spring. That puts us up 8.5-6.5 with 6 points still up for grabs. If we hadn't gotten that softball point, our chances of winning would be practically zero. Now we have a decent chance. If we can repeat track for both men's and women's, then we only need to steal one more point for the outright win. If we can wrangle a couple ACC championships from those teams, we can win on the tiebreaker again with just those two points.

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Dude, I love how fired up you are about this. I normally wouldn't give a shit, but you are making me want to win this cup or clash or whatever.

it's a combination of it being the off season, growing up in charlottesville dealing with LOLUVa pricks, and living in wahoo country now dealing with LOLUVa pricks that makes me that much more excited about anything we can hold over their heads. Especially when they keep moving the line back: "We are the football school in the state...um, well wait til we own a 14 year streak over you in basketball...um, well at least we'll win the commonwealth clash every year" etc etc etc

Glad you're getting into it, too.

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Anytime you lose your edge, go and read thesabre for about 20 minutes. You will be fired up again!

We'll know by the 22nd if we can win outright.

Women's Lacrosse is Saturday. Hokies are currently ranked #13, UVA is #15. Game will be at Lane Stadium. We can get this win

Ending Next Sunday is:
Men's ACC Golf Championships: Both schools unranked, but UVA is in the also receiving votes category.
Women's ACC Golf Championships: UVA is t-22, VT is unranked.
Men's Tennis: Neither team ranked. Matches will be played at VT. I don't know how the teams match up, but let's get some fans out there.

May 10-12: ACC outdoor track and field championships:
Women are ranked #18, UVA is unranked
Men are ranked #13, UVA #23

Let's get this!

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Yeah, next weekend is a doozy.

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VT Men's Tennis should be favored.

That's surprising

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Women's lacrosse today at 1pm, Lane stadium. We are ranked 16, the wahoos are ranked 14. Get this win and we are in fantastic position to win the clash.

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Pulling away, 16-12, 5:14 left

You can even watch it live.

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You know, if we can get 35,000 into lane for a practice for football surely we can get that many for a commonwealth clash game for women's lacrosse, right?

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I've only seen one view of the stands just prior to "kickoff" and ouch. Really wish Tech saw more support for the Olympic sports especially when they are doing as well as Lax is.

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Me and a group of about 10 other guys have been kicked out of a Tech Women's Lacrosse game... They weren't ready for the thunder

Bud/Wiles 2020

good girls up 10-7 end of first half

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So can we talk about how both LOLUVA and Tech, teams in the top 20,in the ACC have their goalies wearing sweatpants that looks like they bought them at Walmart?

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I've noticed it by other teams too. Think it's typical.

We can't find some nice maroon ones?

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good girls win 16-12

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Lady Hokies lead UVA by 1 stroke at the ACC championship tournament.

Leaderboard

Men are 15 strokes behind

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Let's go ahead and take women's golf and men's tennis and wrap this thing up this weekend.

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This guy gets it.

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We just won the first 2 doubles matches, so I guess that's good.

Edit: We were the underdog in those matches as well.

Do we just need to take Men's Golf outside around back the woodshed and put them out of their misery? The men were the *only* team above par for the tournament, and that was a +15. Of twelve teams, they were *31* strokes behind #9 FSU at -16.

That's about as bad a performance for VT in any sport that I've ever heard about. Can anybody think of worse?

Final Leaderboard

And just in case you were curious, we were 39 behind UVA at -24.

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Its kind of been that way for a while. There's been a pretty hefty chunk of talent in golf coming out of this region for a while and through various contacts I used to be somewhat plugged in on how recruiting went in this area. To not mince words, kids are actively steered away from Tech for a variety of legitimate reasons during the recruitment process and steered toward schools that would much better advance their game, like Georgia, Florida, etc. We have a lot going against us that is simply out of our control.

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Does not having a course close to campus one of them? It's weird female golf recruiting is getting better at same time.

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The women's golf team is new. They can offer immediate playing time.
The location of the course doesn't affect that much. It's a top tier course with a good practice facility. It just doesn't have the overall everything that the Georgia/Florida/Clemson programs have.

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Climate, climate, climate. That is the BIG thing that will always hold us back. The top kids want to go to a school where they play year round, and the unpredictable climate of Blacksburg, especially in the November through February timeframe puts us at a significant disadvantage. Don't get me wrong, the River Course is great, and the practice facility we have there is also good, but the top players really need to be playing rounds throughout the year to keep their game up, and we just don't have the ability to offer that like so many of our peers. Can we do better? Sure, and we should be better, but its unlikely we're ever going to see VT seriously compete nationally in golf, just because of that alone.

As was already said, women's golf at Tech is relatively new, and we'll see some marked improvement over the coming years, but we are quickly going to run into the exact same barriers there as we see in the men's game.

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To combat that, you have to have some nice simulator stuff set up to practice year round and a few Trackmans. As best I can tell, VT doesn't even have a Trackman according to their locator. UVA has at least one.

And they aren't cheap.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Those are nice, but aren't warm weather, a deep alumni w pga ties, and a staff that can coach the kids year around. But trackmen are nice.

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Is our best PGA alumni Johnson Wagner?

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Yes.
And only other one with spotty appearances is DeJong.

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But I'm sure we have a lot of alumni that play Golf Clash. That could help, right?

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Ewwwww GC2

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Again, while that's nice and all, nothing beats hitting off the grass, outside, in decent weather, year around. Pair that with alumni that can golf the ball and coaches that can improve your game and you have a foundation for a top level program. Tech won't get there unless we move the campus and make some other changes.

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Golf is one of the few sports I give Tech and the athletic department mostly a pass on. But I still think Tech should be fielding competitive teams in the sport. There are a teams outside of the FL, CA, Texas schools doing ok to very well in golf. Tech should be able to at least keep up with some of them.

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Given current conditions, not gonna happen...sorry to say.

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Not too long ago we were competing in the regionals and made nationals. We can get back there, but we need a good recruit or two.

This is per Farmville Hokie on another board:

"Our number 2&3 players did not return to school after Christmas. I don't know the reasons and am not offering any opinion regarding Jay Hardwicks future. Just pointing out he suffered major talent loss at mid-season.

I believe he has signed three of the best Virginia players for next season as well. "

Hardwicke has been doing well overall and it looks like he will get team back on track. VT is not the SEC which will fire someone after a couple of down years.

But we really were not doing well in the fall, either. This is a down year for us. I expect it will pick back up in the next couple of years.

Nice. Women's lacrosse beats LOLUVA! That puts us up 9.5 to 6.5 with 5 events remaining.

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Women's golf not playing great. But the gap between Duke and everyone else in ACC is ridiculous.

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You're saying an exclusive private school full of rich white people is better at golf than their peer public institutions?

I'm shocked!

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Bama, UCLA and Arkansas are three best women's golf teams right now. Public schools can compete if they are willing to put the money and time into them to be competitive hell 7 of the top 10 are public schools. But Duke is 35 strokes better than the last team in the tournament right now that's just out of this world good.

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Whelp so much for that point for women's golf.

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Mens tennis took the doubles point they need 3 single wins to clinch the match

I feed off of nightmares

We're up a set in 2 matches and down a set in 4. So we need to hold and have someone mount a comeback.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

Hokies lead 2-1 with 3 matches going to a 3rd set and a Hoo leading the other 1-0 with the second set still tight.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

Early break for a Hoo in the 3rd set to take a 3-0 lead. Need to take 2/3 of the remaining matches that are in the 3rd set.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

Two Hoos got breaks in the 3rd set (lead 5-1 and 4-2) and then two Hokies got breaks (lead 3-0 and 2-0). Pretty exciting back and forth here.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

Hoos take a 3-2 lead. Hokies are up 4-1 in the 3rd set of both remaining matches.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

Got a second break in one match to make it 5-1 and feel pretty good about tying it up 3-3. Bad news is we gave up a break in the other match so it's 4-3 and back on serve. The whole match could easily come down to a tiebreaker now.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

Last Hokie up 5-4 right now with Hoo serving.

Watch here

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

I have no idea what's happening but I'm excited to win this!

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Thats a W. In mens's tennis won the tiebreaker at the end to make the final score 4-3 VT

At worst, we get our second consecutive tie. Finish higher than LOLUVA in either Men's or Women's track and that's our first outright win

This tie would go to UVA though and they would win the clash.

Yep we need another ACC championship to tie their total.

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And if we do that, we won't need the tiebreak. So we either win outright or lose on tiebreak.

I'd have to check but I guess technically we could pull off an ACC championship in one of the sports where the point is awarded for the head to head victor

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I really don't see them finishing ahead of both of our Outdoor track teams. I'd be surprised if this Men's Tennis win didn't seal this for us.

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I gotta say, I've been pleasantly surprised this weekend. I half expected to get swept and instead we took women's lacrosse and men's tennis. Pretty stinking sweet.

That brings the totals to 10.5 for the good guys and 8.5 for the fighting zimas. Only the men's and women's track and field championship remain.

So it looks pretty good for another Hokie win, but we need to wait 3 weeks to find out for sure.

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Tech can actually still get the point in Women's Golf. There's still one more day and the Lady Hokies are only 3 strokes behind UVA.

Nice! Last time I checked we were in dead last and they had jumped up. I'll have to keep tabs on that tomorrow.

Would love to have the clash locked down before we even get to the track teams.

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So I just did some research on how collegiate golf works regarding team scoring - your team score is based on the best 4 rounds on your team each day, which is a huge difference than just the best 4 tournament scores like I had thought.

For instance, through day 2, UVA's top 4 were sitting +20 collectively while VT's women were +26 collectively. But since it's scoring by day instead of overall tournament score, we were only 3 strokes behind.

Not looking great so far today, from what I see UVA has I think 3 women under par and a fourth even on the day - the other is +5 but her score won't count for the day likely. VT currently has 4 players hanging around even or +1 on the day. Good news is that it appears all of UVA's players are ahead of ours on the course, so we've got time to turn it around.

Come on Women's Golf! Go Hokies!

So, I'm not exactly "up" on my golf etiquette. Would it be a faux pas to start blasting enter sandman during a LOLUVa golfer's back swing?

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My kids yelled Go Hokies during a players swing at last years women golf tournament. It was something.

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I'm surprised someone didn't ask you to leave.

It was her practice swing prior to the start of the event luckily. It's because when the girls were on the driving range the coaches said they could yell.

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so I see we're just two strokes back from LOLUVa, but that's about all I can take from this. Wouldn't it be funny if we tied LOLUVa and got even just half a point here? Winner winner, chicken dinner.

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I'm more fan of the smoked turkey leg dinner

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By my math, right now both teams are +1 on the day, so that puts us 3 shots back of UVA's score at the moment. Good news is that UVA has two women that are sitting at +5 and +6 on the day that are done or on 18, so they've got at least one high score counting today.

Need our ladies to pick up a couple shots on the back nine or hope the remaining UVA golfers that are in the middle of the pack drop a couple shots.

Got bored before lunch and wrote a crude script in Python to parse the scores from the webpage in real-time and do all the calculations (add up the scores, dropping the worse).

Not looking good: VT is +3 on the day and UVA is only +1 on the day

Edit: Good news is that Elizabeth Bose is making a late push toward the top of the leaderboard. 2 under on the day and 3 strokes back with 6 to play, plus neither of the two Duke ladies at the top are under par on the day.

+6 to +1 now......not looking good for the ladies.

Does not look like it's going to happen

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Without looking at the details, appears to have been an epic collapse down the stretch. Went from being tied at +1 to finishing +13 to the Hoo's +2. On to track and field! GO HOKIES!

So how do the outdoor track points get awarded? Do we just have to beat UVa's team or do we have to win the whole meet?

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Just better than LOLUVA so .25 points higher score.

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Oh we got this one in the bag!

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As many have noted (and I called way too early), LOLUVa placed better than us at the women's golf championship. That brings them up to 8.5 points to our 10.5. The ACC track championship meets for men and women is in a few weeks. If we finish higher than the Hoos in one of those, we win the clash. If we don't, then we have ourselves a tie. Unfortunately, the fighting zimas have more qualifying ACC championships than we do so they would win the tie, like we did last year. Guess we'll see May 10-12.

Now, we wait...

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Damn if swimming had just done their usual they would have already won it.

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What are the chances we win one of the two? I thought we had the better track program. We're safe, right?

The women are currently ranked #19, highest ranked of ACC schools, UVA is #95
The men are #36, UVA is #65

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Yes, but we can't take anything for granted. I heard about this basketball team once that thought they were safe as a #1 seed in round one of march madness...

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Oh please, a 16 seed beating a 1 seed? That hasn't happened in like 160 games or so. It's just so doggone unlikely, I don't think we'll ever see it happen. As they say, UMBC (yoU Must Be Crazy).

#thingsiblamethemvsfor

yoU Must Be overConfident

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#extendbronco

I cant upvote profile profile pictures...so I upvoted your comment instead

They'll really get after ya

Bump because the ACC outdoor track and field competitions start today. We only need to tie LOLUVa in either the men's or women's tournament to win the clash.

LET'S GO!!!

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HOKIES!!!!

Bacon strips &
bacon strips &
bacon strips &
bacon strips

Nice pull. Thanks!

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Shit! We are already behind!

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It's not just a sprint...it's a long meet.

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Looks like the score is 0-0. Who's winning?

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Bacon strips &
bacon strips &
bacon strips &
bacon strips

If the score is 0-0 we are winning

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Are you sure about that?

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Dang 54 seconds apart, but.... you did go with gif over photo! Great minds think alike lol

VB born, class of '14

You are both assholes /s

"What are you going to do, stab me? - Quote from Man Stabbed

Ladies took first and second in the hammerthrow today!

Update: Ladies finished in first after day 1, with 37 points with 4 of the 21 events scored. uva has 13 points.

VB born, class of '14

Emma Thor placed first in the hammer throw and if that's not fitting then idk what is

Chem PhD '16

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That's just not fair.

The rest of her career at Tech, if we don't have somebody at the event blasting Hail to the Hammer by Tyr, it will be a missed opportunity.

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By the end of her senior year she's shooting lightning out of her eyes

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DAMN MILLENNIALS MADE THOR A WOMAN?!?!?!?!?!?!? THEY RUIN EVERYTHING. WHAT'S NEXT, IS IRON MAN GOING TO BE A TEENAGE GIRL??!?!?

/s...in case that was needed

"We judge ourselves by our intentions and others by their behavior" Stephen M.R. Covey

“When life knocks you down plan to land on your back, because if you can look up, you can get up, if you fall flat on your face it can kill your spirit” David Wilson

Except Odinson is Thor again (but Mjolnir is shattered), Stark is back, Falcon is back to Falcon, no clue what they're going to do with Ironheart...

"We judge ourselves by our intentions and others by their behavior" Stephen M.R. Covey

“When life knocks you down plan to land on your back, because if you can look up, you can get up, if you fall flat on your face it can kill your spirit” David Wilson

Umm... spoilers?

Not to venture into religion, but is this an argument for predestination?

Take the shortest route to the ball and arrive in bad humor.

It also has to be a huge psychological disadvantage for her competitors knowing that they're having to enter a hammer throwing competition with somebody named Thor

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a girl who looks like that, throws a hammer, and is named thor? Half of comiccon just had to change their pants.

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I'm just cringing, waiting for the PC police to come dissect everything that's "wrong" about your statements.

AND VT's Kuklova finished 2nd!!!!!

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As long as we're on the topic of names, check out the Women's 10k race results. FSU has a runner named Forever Young.

“You got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

Rod Stewart approves

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Alphaville approves

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That is a nice lead for the ladies. Men are tied with UVA in 5th place.

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Women's team currently in first place with a 21 point lead over Miami 5.5 point lead over FSU (the Noles gained 23 points in one event) and a 31 point lead over fourth-place UVA
Of the remaining seven six events, there are only five events either team can get points from (neither team has participants in the 100m or the 200m):

800m: 2 VT athletes, 0 UVA. No points for them, minimum 3 for us.
400m Hurdles: 1 UVA, 0 VT. No points for us, minimum 1 for them.
5K: 4 VT athletes, 0 UVA. No points for them. Don't know how this is scored for us, though, because there's so many participants. Does it use 8-scoring or something else entirely?
4x400: Possible points for whichever team places higher (minimum 0 for both).
Discus: UVA 2, VT1. Minimum 0 for both.

Maximum possible UVA points: 38 without the 5k
Minimum VT points: 3 without the 5k

I'll tally out Men's in a few minutes once I've seen their events remaining.

Edit: Updated to reflect the women's 100m has completed. Women's lead on the ACC title is now 5.5 points

Edit 2: I forgot about the 5k when I made my statement >.> Edited out clinching statement as a result.

The men's team is currently in third place with 63.5 points, while UVA's is in 6th with 40 points. Syracuse currently leads with 73 points. Neither team has anyone participating in the 200m.

Of there remaining seven events:

Discus: Currently getting 10 points to UVA's 3. VT maximum possible 18, UVA maximum possible 29 (4 competitors to our 2) We got 10 points, they got 3
Triple Jump: possible points to whichever team places higher (minimum 0 each)
100m: 1 VT athlete, 0 UVA. No points for them, minimum 1 for us
800m: 3 VT athletes, 0 UVA. No points for them, minimum 6 for us. 12 points for the good guys (tm)
400m Hurdles: 2 VT athletes, 1 UVA. Minimum 1 point for them, minimum 3 for us.
5k: 4 athletes each. See my comment about women for scoring.
4x400: Possible point to whichever team places higher (minimum 0 for both).

Update: 12 points netted in the men's 800m.

Current lead over UVA is 45.5
Currently 5.5 points behind FSU with four events to go.

800m: VT 3 athletes, FSU 0. Minimum 6 points
400m Hurdles: VT 2 athletes, FSU 1. Minimum 3 points VT, minimum 1 point FSU
200m: FSU 1 athlete, VT 0. Minimum 1 point FSU
5k: FSU 6 athletes, VT 4
4x400: Possible points to whichever team places higher (minimum 0 for both, minimum 1 point for finishing at least 8th)

Edit: Scoring:

10 points for a first place finish
8 points for a second place finish
6 points for a third place finish
5 points for a fourth place finish
4 points for a fifth place finish
3 points for a 6th place finish
2 points for a 7th place finish
1 point for an 8th place finish
0 points for 9th or lower, or if a player DNF (did not finish), DNS (did not start), or is DQ'd (all faults in triple jump, left starting line too early, etc.)

Just grabbed 15 points in the women's 800m.

Down to 4 events that matter for the clash, 5 total for the ACC Women's title. The ladies currently have a 46 point lead over UVA, 20.5 point lead over FSU.

So I don't keep spamming posts, I'm just going to edit my posts from here on out unless someone replies first, updating standings and removing text as needed.

This is gonna be a tight finish for both team championships in the overall standings 😬

VB born, class of '14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04854XqcfCY

UVA is 40 points behind the women with four events to go and only three competitors remaining - none of which are in the 5k! If they sweep the discus and 4x400, that's only 28 points!

Good work to all of VT's athletic teams and coaches for bringing home a second Commonwealth Clash! The Ladies are now competing to lock up an ACC title, the men are playing for additional bragging rights against the Wahoos and to try to claim their own title!

Awesome! thanks for doing all that math Tai! Hoping to take an ACC championship as well

VB born, class of '14

You must have done this math wrong. UVA is better than us at sports that aren't football.

Currently tied with Miami at 100 points on the women's side with three events to go:

the 4x400 relay (13 teams, points to top 8)
the discus (they have 3 of 17 entrants, we have 1. Points to top 8)
the 5K run (they have 2 of 44, we have 4 of 44)

Unfortunately, I have no clue how the 5k is scored :( If it's 8-place like everything else, then only the top 8 get points. But it might be something different :(

The next closest teams are FSU (82.5), Clemson (66), and UVA (60, eliminated from team title).

I haven't looked to see if anyone else is eliminated but I'd assume NC State, Pitt, the Jackets, Wake, Syracuse and BC are all eliminated because they all have 25 points or less.

On the men's side, we're 6.5 points behind FSU with three events to go. UVA is 52.5 points behind us, but has 7 chances to score points while we still have 9 chances. Unfortunately, not knowing how the 5K is scored makes me hesitant to say what either needs to do to clinch the bragging rights point since both teams have four athletes each in the 5k.

Well, that was easy. I found the scoring for the 5K from last year and started typing up a response... just as the women's 5k finished and scored! LOL! That also eliminated Clemson, by the way, making the women's title a three-team race.

Okay, with that in mind, there are two events left -- one of which involves everyone and the other both Miami and FSU have a major advantage over us:

* the 4x400 relay -- 13 teams, 10 maximum points, 0 possible points.
* the discus. We have one entrant, FSU 3, Miami 3

MPP -- FSU 116,5, VT 123, Miami 134

Currently, FSU is getting 16 points, we're getting 4 and Miami is getting 8. If that stands, the points will be:

FSU 98.5/108.5, VT 107/117, 108/118

I'm trying to find tie breakers now, but not having any luck. TL;DR, VT needs to finish at least seventh place and at least two places ahead of Miami to not worry about a tie. If VT finishes exactly one place ahead of Miami and the Hokies finish at least eighth, then we go to the tie-breakers.

Miami just needs to finish ahead of VT and to score at least 1 point to claim the championship.

FSU needs to win the 4x400, have Miami finish 9th or lower, and have VT finish 8th or lower.

EDIT: And just as I finished this and my next post, FSU is now getting 20 points from the discus, Miami 7 and us 3.

Updated totals if this stands:
FSU: 102.5/112, VT: 106/116, UM 107/117

I also got the placements wrong.

VT clinches with
* 1st or 2nd place in the 4x400 and Miami 3rd or lower
* 3rd place in 4x400, Miami 5th or lower, FSU 2nd or lower
* 4th place, Miami 6th or lower, FSU 2nd or lower
* 5th place, Miami 7th or lower, FSU 3rd or lower
* 6th place, Miami 8th or lower, FSU 3rd or lower
* 7th place, Miami 8th or lower, FSU 4th or lower
* 8th place, Miami 9th or lower, FSU 5th or lower

Miami: Finish ahead of VT, FSU finishes 4th or lower

FSU: Finish 4rd or higher, VT finishes at least 4 places below FSU, Miami finishes at least 5 places below FSU

Watching the women's 5k, and the leader from NC state runs so weirdly.

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VT crushes on Men and Women's sides. So clash is won 12.5 to 8.5! Wowza!!

I bet the Saber's in full meltdown right now!

On the men's side, it looks like Syracuse nearly swept the 5K for 34 of a possible 39 points! We took fifth for 4 points and UVA 8th for 1 point.

That catapults Syracuse into a 4.5 point lead over us and 2 point lead over FSU. On top of it our only triple-jumper is currently 19th while FSU is 1st with three other competitors currently not scoring points. Syracuse has no one in the event.

Unfortunately, that eliminates the Men from title contention, but I'll take a possible women's title and both clash points over a UVA title any day!

No, doing their normal thing of , "If we can't win, we will ignore it and say it doesn't matter."

There might not have been lacrosse involved so therefore it doesn't matter.

FSU DNS'd the 4x400! If we finish ahead of Miami AND claim at least 1 point we go to tie-breakers. If we finish ahead of Miami AND claim at least 2 points over them we win outright!

Edit! Damn it! They finished first, we finished 4th by 4 seconds! Oh, well. Nice work, ladies! You and the men's team both gave it your best!

Wow, good thing for UVA that we're such a one trick pony with football or they might be facing a two year losing streak or something

/s

Haters gonna hate, potatoes gonna potate, and hetzers gonna hetz

And VT runs away with this year's clash! 12.5 to 8.5. Well done - Go Hokies!

Of course the Hoos will whine about the sports that weren't included, but I say f'em.

Well yeah didn't you hear? Those are the sports that they're REALLY GOOD at.

But that has nothing to do with the fact that there isn't much competition when you start to play sports like field hockey and rowing.

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Even with those sports, I don't think they would've won this year.

Suck it wahoos. Will be posting a clash wrap up when I get back into town later this week.

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I've been waiting all weekend to be able to log back in at work to check this very thing. I am so delighted to see our Men and Women do so well. Great job!

Will there be a tweet saying we won the clash? I want to retweet that in Cville Hokies.

I got you FAM!

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

Thanks. This is for sure getting shared.

Edit: Just retweeted. None of the Hoos in the office care.

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I completely forgot to check on this over the weekend, but great news!! That is a dominating win for the Clash!!! All the Hoos down in Hooville will all cry booooooohoooooooo.

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The silence from LOLUVA about this is something.

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Their silence speaks volumes.

Sweet sweet music!

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A Hokie really needs to edit the Virginia-Virginia Tech (commonwealth clash) wiki page in order to inject a little objectivity.

It's seriously UVa homeboy territory right now.

Shoot they just need some edits, period. Case and point:

The Commonwealth Clash will encourage a friendly, statewide rivalry throughout the state.

This sentence seems redundant and repetitive to me... (/s)

That team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I've seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked.

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That team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I've seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked.