Revenue Generating Ideas

No particular order here. Please keep responses constructive. Fuel the discussion rather than say "these are stupid"

1: Hokie Club sends out a text to each HC member after each big win/ACC win that says something like "Celebrate a VT victory with a $10.00 donation to Hokie Club. Text "HOKIES" to donate." Or anything like that. Capitalize on the spike in positive energy around the program that follows a W. I don't have an answer for how to actually do this. I don't know how this works... but it shouldn't be that hard to set up I imagine.

2: Increase North End Zone ticket prices. Student tickets are currently $110/season which comes to $18.33/game. $150/season would be $25/game. An additional $40 x 10,000 = $400,000 a year. That's a lot of support staff at $50k/yr.

3: $5.00 entrance to the Spring Game. 35,000 attended the SG this year. Even if it drops to 17,500 because of the cost, thats $87,500 in revenue... that's probably two more staff members...

4: Sell beer and wine in the west side + club level only. Have police officers in the area, two forms of ID, whatever it takes to eliminate the possibility of a fake ID, underage, etc.

5. Increase athletics fees. Currently $154/semester. $328.50/semester for the UVA
(source: http://www.virginia.edu/budget/Docs/components%20of%20mandatory%20fees%2...)

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1. Not bad, I would do it
2. Not big on it, I don't think current students are as football-crazed as in the past, and they already bail from games in droves, really don't want to discourage attendance from students
3. Yes, I would pay $5 and feel most would
4. Sell beer and wine everywhere, except a few designated "family" sections... this could happen during the next reseating
5. No, please no.

EDIT: on number 4, also no alcohol in NEZ

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Agreed on #5. In the OTHER Devyn Ford thread I already illustrated there's no correlation between athletic fees and success and at most VT could almost double it because state law prohibits teams in a Power Five football conference from getting more than 20% of its athletic revenue from student athletic fees and the Hokies are already receiving over 10% from said fees.

As for beer and wine, I'm against the sale mainly because it's local booster organizations (including university clubs) that actually run the concession stands -- of which a number of the workers are under the age of 21. More often than not when I go to a stand to buy a drink or get a burger/barbecue, I'm being served by a teenager.

If you want to have one or two dedicated locations to sell alcohol, that's fine, but I'm against serving it "everywhere" because that's fewer workers for those booths and a loss of revenue for those booster organizations who are being paid by VT to work the booth.

Don't understand the logic here. No one is saying you have to purchase, or that those people have to work for those organizations. There's a level of personal responsibility involved with decision making by each party involved. Doesn't mean that plenty of others (both customers and servers) wouldn't be just fine with this...

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I believe the objection is that a lot of the organizations who currently staff the concessions stands would no longer be able to do so, because you have to be over 21 to serve alcohol. Therefore, many student groups or charitable organizations who rely on young people to work concessions to raise money for their groups would lose the ability fundraise in this way.

“You got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

Isn't the 21 thing for liquor? Plenty of people I knew served beer and wine under 21 when I was in high school. It just couldn't be your primary function, but it could have changed in the past few years.

It's 21 period. I used to work concessions for the Richmond Coliseum for some events (concerts, WWF/WCW) and the Diamond in high school (1990-1994) to earn money for band trips. At the Diamond , only our parents could work the register where soft serve ice cream was sold because the students weren't 21 since beer was sold there as well. Nor could walk the stadium with anything but soda and water.

At the Coliseum, again the parents had to work the registers because the students weren't 21.

Yet, at 19, I could stock the fridge at Wade's on South Main -- which included stocking it with alcohol. Go figure that one out.

Yet, at 19, I could stock the fridge at Wade's on South Main -- which included stocking it with alcohol. Go figure that one out.

And be a cashier at the register checking ID

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Ah, well this is easily solved by separating the sales. Plenty of sports venues have the standalone beer carts where only alcohol is sold. Pretty easy solution.

EDIT: so to clarify my opinion given Tai's objection, I feel that beer should be allowed to be consumed in the all general seating areas of Lane except for NEZ and one or two "family" sections; however, it could only be sold at select kiosks and concession stands... not all of them.

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https://www.abc.virginia.gov/library/licenses/pdfs/retail.pdf?la=en

Page 4 #20.

18 is the age cutoff for sell/serve.

If you're worried about his impacting on the organizations that run the concessions, then make designated beer kiosks, or designated beer line.
Yea, there's plenty of stands that have 14 y/o HS students slinging Cokes, but in my experience, I've had that happen MAYBE 5x in 20+ yrs of games. And, there is always numerous adults within 10ft at all times. To me, that's a complete non issue.

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Tear up the asphalt in front of Lane where the Hokie Walk takes place. Sell Hokie Stone bricks with the donors name on them. $100 each or whatever.

Why would they put Hokie stone bricks in front of their stadium?

Number 1 is great because it will entrap a lot of bourbon-drunk Hokies to donate $5 after a win. If my phone tells me to text 'Hokies' after a win, who am I to say no?

I would do this literally every time.

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I've said it on here before but I think Visa or a big bank should partner with schools so that alumni can enroll in a round up for the Hokie Club program. Every purchase you make with your debit/credit card rounds up and that amount goes to the Hokie Club. You could set certain limits that once you reached your desired giving level it would cease for the remainder of the year. I went through a month of activity for myself and it would have totaled about $35 last month.

Doesn't the Alumni Association already have a credit card?

The impression I currently hold is that the banks make a lot more money than the organization with these sorts of deals, and they're costly for the card holders.

4. Sell it everywhere but under the north end zone. Many schools are already doing this. I've been to two Ohio State games since they did this and there weren't drunk people everywhere. Yes its anecdotal evidence, but there is some thought that selling beer in the stadium actually reduces the number of drunk people. No need to go all out at the tailgate, or smuggle in airplane bottles if you can get a few beers in the stadium.

The money OSU makes also goes into hiring more OSU officers and an alcohol program for students. It doesn't make the athletic department anymore money.

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The money OSU makes also goes into hiring more OSU officers and an alcohol program for students.

Are these costs that OSU wouldn't have to spend otherwise, or were alcohol sales introduced in order to fund these things?

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I'm not sure that's accurate.

Ohio State fans poured out more than a few cold ones for the Ohio State football team in 2017, surpassing last season's total revenue from in-stadium beer sales.

The university made $1,231,280 in total net revenue from 2017 beer sales in Ohio Stadium, according to public records. It is a 5.6 percent increase from the $1,166,497 generated in 2016 — the first year the 'Shoe implemented stadium-wide beer sales.

The revenue obtained by the university is directed toward funding four additional University Police officer positions, increased security, campus safety initiatives and financially supporting Ohio State's Higher Education Center for Alcohol and Drug Misuse Prevention and Recovery, university spokesman Ben Johnson said.

The $1.23 million is the revenue after expenses, not the total amount of money from beer sales.

https://www.thelantern.com/2017/12/ohio-state-profits-1-35-million-from-stadium-alcohol-sales-increase-in-stadium-arrests/

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The revenue obtained by the university is directed toward funding four additional University Police officer positions, increased security, campus safety initiatives and financially supporting Ohio State's Higher Education Center for Alcohol and Drug Misuse Prevention and Recovery, university spokesman Ben Johnson said.

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Could be. The way the article interchanges 'profit' and 'revenue' is incorrect.

Either way, I think it's something that should be explored. The school would easily come out ahead.

Is there any reason why VT would need to follow suit with how the money is spent? I don't think selling beer & wine in Lane is going negatively impact the gameday experience.

Possible state or federal regulations? Apparently Virginia Union sells alcohol at authorized events but I haven't had a chance to dig into this further to find out what defines an authorized event and what requirements they have in doing so beyond the usual federally mandated ones.

1. Not big on it.

2. Let the market decide, don't hurt student attendance.

3. I'm OK with that. I'd rather have attendance than money, though, so if it hurts the numbers cut it out.

4. Yes.

5. Keep those fees low, but OK to increase with inflation.

why are you down on #1? Seems least intrusive of all the ideas.

agree...plus I think if something is super easy to do more people will do it. I don't know how the Hokie Club is now but when I first joined forever ago you couldn't donate from the internet you had to send a form in or somethin if I remember correctly. People want it to be easy. If I could donate with a text hell yeah I would, especially if it's nothing major like $10. I mean if you can't afford $10 then you probably should get rid of your phone and other things that you obviously can't afford.

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"I want to punch people from UVA right in the neck." - Colin Cowherd

How is getting a text message after all the games asking for money NOT intrusive? I find this kind of thing annoying. I already donate, and generally pay extra NOT to get reminders or advertisements.

However, if others don't mind it, and I can opt out, go for it. I get the impression that these things are wildly successful. I'd be willing to bet they'll make money at it, and I'm supportive of the cause.

Of the ideas suggested by OP:

  • Very big fan of #1 and #4.
  • #2 and #5 - I'm afraid these could alienate students. Also, I don't think the athletic department shouldn't be relying on Students to foot the bill.
  • #3 - I probably wouldn't pay $5 to enter the spring game (I'd rather drink at a tailgate than pay to either not drink inside), but I would pay $1-$5 to stream the spring game live.

Honestly, I think the most important (although most difficult) thing the athletic department can do is add structure to the Hokie Club and improve communication.

  • There should be an active Hokie Club in every city on the east coast, and almost any other city big enough to have a professional sports team.
  • There should be an engagement manager for each region, who can give volunteers who run local chapters the support they need.
  • We need to engage young alumni immediately. VT has our email addresses/phone numbers, they should be sending out survey asking where we are moving to and people within the Hokie Club should be reaching out to us telling us about new events. When I donated to Hokie Club for the first time a few months ago, someone called me a few days later thanking me for the donation. In addition to the thank you, they should've said "We're doing event XYZ nearby you in Atlanta next month, would you be interested in going?"

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I think all of these are excellent ideas, especially the spring game idea, heck even throw in $1 or $2 parking just for. As I'm sure had been stated 400,000,000 times over, I think that the HC needs to flood all the alumni with mail, email, phone calls etc to get us up to the elite programs. I will personally be joining very soon bc thanks to LA and BAG it is horrifyingly obvious that only $ separates us from being a blue blood. Hell let's just form our own HC and run it our own way; engineers+TKP=NC? ****no /s

I suppose the first step is to join the existing club.

THEN we'll set the world on fire.

Create event-specific Venmo accounts and push them through social media and on HokieVision.

Free money.

Yeah I am trying to implement this in our VT Alumni Functions because one of the biggest objections I get is I don't have cash for our 50/50 during games. Really? I take Venmo.

Also, it gives you the ability to put up a chart of your progress collecting funds, so I mean its kind of a no brainer.

Set a goal, display it during the games, send out venmo ID (Hell assign a free tour of all the facilities to it or something as a reward to 1 donater), ask for donations, and show progress during quarterly breaks.

Makes sense to me, but our fanbase is so engineer based, some stuff gets lost in translation.

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I've actually been thinking about this for awhile now after all the discussion on TKP. VT needs to build engagement from Day 1 with incoming students in order to keep them involved and grow alumni support when they eventually graduate. I've been obsessed with football at VT since I was born, but during my time at Tech I did not see that same level of enthusiasm from students. Here is my solution: you already hold orientation partially in Lane, this forces students to be introduced to the stadium. They need to create a cheaper student Hokie club that doesn't actually suck and market this during orientation. Make it $10-$40/year, and actually offer small things to build student interest. Mainly an exclusive T-shirt and an exclusive schedule poster mailed to you. I would have eaten that shit up. You might not make a ton of revenue but you build the culture and feeling of being a part of the football team. This is likely more nuanced than I realize, but in order to get large alumni donations down the road you need to start Day 1 when the students step on campus (having the football team help with move-in is one of the best ideas I've ever seen and we've done it since the 80s).

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Earn 5 points for each year of Student Hokie Club membership towards the Hokie Club priority points program

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FYI, they are going to start charging a nominal amount for Student Hokie Club this year. I believe it will be $25 for 2017-18.

Ah missed that thread and didn't realize you got the HC meeting spiel.

Piggy backing off your idea a few thoughts come to mind.

1. Make registration free for Freshman and to drive enrollment, they can be offered the bare bones benefits just to get their feet wet, but they get involved and get a taste. Then after freshman year start with a fee once they've already gotten involved. Sure you'll lose some but my thought is it will be easier to retain most than create from scratch paying at the start.
2. Not sure if this is possible, but maybe a tiered pricing/donations system with seat selection for student tickets prioritized by tier then opened to regular students much like season tickets for non-students

They need to create a cheaper student Hokie club that doesn't actually suck and market this during orientation.

FTFY

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They only market it during home games, which is when I was too drunk to care about what was happening on the video board. Got to find a better way to get info out there.

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Our problem is that our school is so engineered based, that sometimes we get the super nerds, that don't like football and could careless.

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#4.

No to stadium-wide, yes to select locations.

As I've already said in this thread, and said the last time this topic came up:

I'm against the sale of alcohol (especially stadium wide) mainly because it's local booster organizations (including university clubs) that actually run the concession stands -- of which a number of the workers are under the age of 21. More often than not when I go to a stand to buy a drink or get a burger/barbecue, I'm being served by a teenager. (Edit from above post) Or a VT student who more than likely isn't 21.

If you want to have one or two dedicated locations to sell alcohol, that's fine, but I'm against serving it "everywhere" because that's fewer workers for those booths and a loss of revenue for those booster organizations/clubs who are being paid by VT to work the booth. Trust me from experience. When I was at Hermitage and we were earning money for our trip to march in the 1993 Tournament of Roses Parade (and really, all of our trips but this was the big one) a handful of parents and students were doing the work for everyone else's benefit. Remove the ability for anyone under 21 to work the counter at the booth and you're cutting into your pool of available workers even more.

Fair point. Should be part of the analysis.

Best way around this is to setup separate alcohol only booths and staff them with either paid workers or only organizations that can handle an over 21 staffing requirement.

Thus why I said I'm against it everywhere. Select booths is fine, maybe one or two in each end of the east and west sidelines and one in the south end zone, but every booth? Nope.

Why not let the market decide? Fixing it at one or two on each side is criminally short-sighted IMO. As someone posted above there's no reason that this has to take away from the existing concessions. Just add more people with mobile beer carts/tubs and let demand dictate the numbers.

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Is it football season yet?

If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball.

Text to all ticket holders after a win:

to donate $10, respond with "HOKIES"...LET'S GO!!!

Watch the money roll in

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That reminds me of this:

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Well, that's 3 minutes I'm never going to get back. Would have been better off donating $10 to the Hokie Club by texting "HOKIES" as a response to "Let's Go!".

The point is made, though.

Would have been better off donating $10 to the Hokie Club by texting "HOKIES" as a response to "Let's Go!".

Well that was basically the comedic reference/connection of the vid where the senator was getting the people to pay for the stuff by texting.

Well, that's 3 minutes I'm never going to get back.

Sorry, but I was too lazy/busy to condense it to the specific punchline.

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Don't get me wrong. I understood the reference.

I think #1 is a great idea especially with this spin on it. However, if it is going to work we need wifi or better cell service in Lane. Otherwise those texts will never go through.

charge players for fumbles and interceptions

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$10 to post a comment in a "commitment week" thread.

$20 if it's negative.

You know you want to...

1. I like it, it's petty, but I like it.
2. Speaking as a current student, you're only gonna lose sales if you increase ticket prices. Many of the seats are filled via the lottery and not actual ticket sales for the East Stands, which are normally not full.
3. Ain't no way in hell I'm paying $5 to go watch the 3rd stringers practice, I can watch Clemson's game on TV.
4. I will never be against beer and football but I'll say this: I was at the BC game last year where they sell beer and wine and it was a mess. Lines were ridiculous, people were drunkenly falling up and down steps and getting hurt, it was just bad....and there were like 627 people at that game.
5. Tuition already goes up every year so Sands can play in his drone cage.....

1. Love it. I also would love for volunteer students to be outside after games with booths for alumni to put down a 5 spot or more on their way out. Do this after wins and you're gonna get a lot of money from fans not in the Hokie Club.
2. Don't love it. We shouldn't increase ticket price we should be reducing access to tickets. It may sound trite but when students had to camp out for tickets it created a false demand. Not saying tent city is desirable but it worked, and I fucking hate the lottery system. Give tickets to students that want them and make it somewhat hard to get them. Open to suggestions here. Also reward students that show loyalty and attend games more consistently in some way.
3. I don't mind this though not sure students would opt for this, so may cut down numbers. Fuente needs to figure out a way to engage fans more in the offseason. He needs to find a balance that going to draw fans in but keep his focus. Right now it's not working and as Joe has mentioned that is not a good thing.
4. I am not swayed either way on alcohol. Would I like a beer during a game? sure. Is it going to make the overall experience better for me. Not really. I am there for football. But that's just me. I appreciate the worry of drunk fans in regards to families but could limit purchase to a certain number per game I suppose. Anyway, like I said, neither argument has swayed me.
5. Disagree. I actually am completely reversed on this. I think athletics fees should be done away with altogether. The university supports sports programs a lot and part of paying tuition should be to enjoy the programs that you are paying for. Sports is one of those. I don't like additional fees on top of that because it doesn't feel transparent to me. If it's part of tuition just make it so, don't add on.

additional suggestion:

6. International streaming rights. I haven't looked at the ACC contract completely but given the fact that we have a lot of international alumni civilian and corps, I would love for VT to offer a direct streaming option for international viewing. I would happily pay and additional $100 per year to view VT sports.

To your second point, I kicked around around the idea of allowing student Hokie Club members to earn student season ticket points for attending Olympic sport events. Have a kiosk where they can have their student ID scanned/swiped at the softball/lacrosse/soccer game and earn a point toward priority seating.

To your third point, once the ACC network broadcasting equipment is in place, set up a streaming service through the Hokie Club website. Members can live stream games that are not available through the ACC network (tier 8 or however that will all work out). This would allow Coach Fuente to keep some things close to the vest and create another perk to joining the Hokie Club. I would think it would also create an opportunity for the broadcasting majors to get some hands on experience.

Come to Blacksburg and see what the Hokie Pokie is really all about

I would argue that breaking the athletic fee out instead of burying it in tuition is transparency

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1. Good idea, even if it doesn't really work there isn't much opportunity cost
2. A lot of people have been against this, however, having just graduated last year and I would be willing to bet that there is a large contingent of students who would be willing to pay more to guarantee their place in NEZ. Now for this to be worth it they would really have to lock down entrance into there, no more photocopying tickets and sneaking in. If that was the case I think students would pay $10-$15 more. I don't think student season ticket sales would plummet, its too much of an experience for the big games, even the ones who leave games early still have season tickets
3. Meh, its probably a trade off between crowd and money so it depends on your priorities, most students don't go now and instead just drink on center but this would really kill off any students being there, again its about priorities.
4. Yes if done properly it can be a big benefit, it may not pull in the money some people think it will but I feel like it can be done.
5. Meh, you could a little bit but I don't think students should bear the brunt of fundraising.

What is frustrating to me is that myself and my friends who graduated a year ago are all serious football fans who have good jobs. We should be the perfect target for the HC but yet none of us are members, I have looked into it and plan on joining after my wedding at the end of the year but not a single friend of mine has even mentioned thinking about being a member. I think the HC should keep track of the graduating students and a year after they graduate start reaching out to them (and not via some spam-y email, I'm not sure the best way to do it but there are a lot of people who are a lot better at marketing than I am), this gives everyone a year of earning money and getting a feel for their expenses so selling it as an additional $10-$25 a month wouldn't be that hard.

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Recent grads can actually join for a lower price.

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And the fact that a whole group of enthusiastic, football fan recent grads doesn't know this, is a perfect microcosm of all of the Hokie Club's problems.

Good point. There shouldn't be any new grads who don't know this.

VT Baseball does (or use to do) a Baseball Night in Blacksburg event just before each baseball season with a prominent guest speaker (Ripken, Kurkjan) and like $50 tickets. Do one for football... Finding speakers would be easier because we have prominent football alumni and sell tickets for $100+... Hold the event at the Inn at VT and you could easily raise 100k in ticket sales alone... Charge extra for pictures/autographs.

This might also repair or establish relationships with former football players or be tied to a recruiting event.

I'm all in for your proposed #1-4, however I'd prefer not to increase mandatory student athletic fees (#5).

One additional thought I had... are 50/50 raffles permitted at college stadiums? If so, Tech could take their 50% take and allocate 25% to Athletic Scholarship fund and the other 25% to General Student Scholarship funds (or any other breakdown imaginable).

Tech could take their 50% take and allocate 25% to Athletic Scholarship fund and the other 25% to General Student Scholarship funds (or any other breakdown imaginable) all of it to the Football Operating budget.

First off, I will just say all of Whits efforts are working, 30% in what two years? is a pretty significant growth that I think people are kind of just glossing over. If you were to open the news and saw Apple's new earnings report and saw 30% growth, people would lose their minds. That's Amazon-esque growth rates...so just keep that in perspective.

1. I like the idea of 1 - feeding on the enthusiasm and micro fundraising seems to be working currently.

I think there could be something simple even just with changing the Hokie Club sticker to reflect your tier...regular - silver - gold etc. something visual that plays off one's giving status?

Also

4. I may be in the millennial minority on alcohol sales, its already a little frightening taking young kids to games as it is.

However, I think if the prices were high enough in certain areas it could work. ODU has alcohol sales in the "Big Blue" areas where you have to be essentially ODU's version of the Hokie Club to enter. You could kill a few birds with one stone - a. getting more people to join the Hokie club in general to gain access, b. increase revenue with alcohol sales.

BEER SALES FOR HOKIE CLUB MEMBERS ONLY

It's so simple...

"It's always great to beat UVA, that makes us all smarter and better looking for a couple days".

Donation buckets at the games.
I'm not the type of person that likes getting robo-calls, texts, or emails from an entity. It makes me feel pressured to do something (I don't respond well to such things). To be honest, I don't even like the real people phone calls.

I'm far more likely to walk up and drop cash in a bucket that has a sign telling me what it's for. Put them at the games, in conspicuous locations, and I'm far more likely to contribute small amounts.

I'm not a huge fan of calls, but they do work, and that's how other organizations do it. I'd be supportive of live calls.

I'm a VT graduate and Hokie Club member, and I get the occasional call from VT, but I'm also an Oklahoma Grad and they call me a LOT, probably four times a year. They're Oklahoma undergrads, and I sometimes talk with them. They really do have a good manner about them. If my loyalty weren't already pledged to VT, I'd donate.

I've gotten more calls to donate to the University of Alabama in Huntsville (enrollment of like 5000 grad and undergrad combined, no football team) than I have to donate to Tech. That's embarrassing. I spent 4 years at Tech, 2 at UAH.

#thingsiblamethemvsfor

Gotta get with the times.

Microtransactions (I guess essentially #1 covers this). Now we just have to figure out a loot crate system.

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Raffle off a pair of season tickets (in a decent location). $20 per ticket. Guaranteed money maker.

I'll give them this, they are actually already doing that right now. Got an email last week.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

Riffing off this.. have a students-only "raffle" for upgraded seating, but instead of buying a ticket, have students join Student Hokie Club for 20 bucks.

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What about if we leave student tickets in East free and up to lottery but allow students, presumably many of the Greek organizations, bid on north end zone tickets

Recruit Prosim

Hey, what if we develop a crack-shot blackjack squad to loot the tables up & down the east coast???

#FUENTEenFUEGO
Waho's suck
Uva swallows

I heard an interesting report on North Korean hackers and how they are basically relied upon to supplement the coffers of Kim Jung Un when he gets hit with sanctions that gimp the economy. Wonder if we could swing something similar /s/s/s/s/s /ohgodtheNSAisraidingmyoffice /help

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To reiterate everyone elses' opinions,

Recruit better.

"Ms. Watson, would you like to do a calendar to benefit the Hokie Club? Ms...Ms. Watson? *---dial tone"

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1. I am not a huge fan of this now but maybe down the road. The better way would be to have more members and ask for less money after those wins. I think you would get more long term if your goal is having 10,000 people donate $3 than hoping to get 5,000 donate $10.
2. I am not big on this. If they go up $5 or $10, that is one thing but trying to get too much out of students is the wrong way to go. You want to get them involved as much as possible while they are there so they stay involved later on.
3. I think this would be good with the exception students get in free. If you are willing to spend the gas money to drive to Blacksburg, you would pay $5 to get in to the game. I also like the idea of being able to stream it for $5, or $3 or whatever you want to charge. You could even make streaming it an exclusive feature of being in the Hokie Club.
4. I think beer and wine sales is the next big area where colleges will look to generate money. Have it be a few select sites in the concourse where you can buy it and none allowed in NEZ (like it is a dry zone anyways...). This would also be an option for basketball games.
5. Not a fan of this.

The big challenge they face is generating enough incentive for the more casual fans to join the Hokie Club. They can do a special drawing each year that 5 or 10 Hoke Club members get free season tickets, and depending on which level you are in the club, the more entries you have for the drawings. They may even do this, which raises the point of exposure. How many people outside of the ones on TKP, 247 and maybe TSL know about the impact of the booster clubs on programs? Ours vs Clemson, PSU, ND, Bama... They need to find a way to raise awareness without coming off as begging.

"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders via Ricky Bobby

I didn't think it was worth starting a new thread, but Whit spoke with AB about funding recently and some of the ideas floated here came up, like beer sales. He also takes what could be considered a harsher tone on Hokie Club membership:

I mean, shoot, we've got 250,000 alumni and probably as many non-alumni that are fans. And if there are 500,000 people who love the Hokies and want to get involved, we think 13,000 is pretty low.

http://www.roanoke.com/hokies/sports/football/whit-babcock-q-a-part-ii-athletic-department-revenues-future/article_bd891284-5dd0-11e8-b1e7-13068cf4babf.html

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

He also takes what could be considered a harsher tone on Hokie Club membership

As he should. Most of the time the same people I hear bitching about the program not being able to take the next step are the same ones that refuse to give one dollar to the HC.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Agreed.

I think we should have a rule that every time someone criticizes the program, they donate $50.

I graduated in '10 and I think in a he 8 years they have only reached out 1 time about joining the Hokie Club.

Under the new tax codes will donations/membership fees be tax deductible?

Also what perks does membership provide?

I like #1, but I think it should be something you can opt out of, if you don't want to receive texts

My understanding is that donations will still be deductible, but the rub is that the new tax code gives more incentive not to itemize, as the standard deduction will be a lot larger.

The benefits, in addition to the positive feelings you get from supporting Virginia Tech athletic programs, can be found here:

Hokie Club membership benefits

well... I followed the link and it looks like the membership benefits portion of the site is... empty

I know that's not the case, but not a great mishap for the club either lol

They changed the link, so now I did as well.

Do we have anything like Clemson's IPTAY (I pay ten a year) program. A push to have as many people as possible donate a tiny sum of money has had a huge effect for them. Maybe a Beamer named/25 buck a year program.

We may already have something like this for all I know. I just graduated a year and a half ago so I'm still in the process of getting to a point where I can donate financially, so I'm pretty unsure of what the current program looks like

The lowest amount in Clemson's IPTAY now is $60. The next lowest level is $160.

The Hokie Club costs $100, and is sort of comparable to Clemson's $160 level.

We could have a $25 level with no priority points/member benefits and no magazine, but that would just be a donation, no? You could get a car sticker.

Diminishing return at some point. Between staff to make contact, send our Hokiesports magazine etc.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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Damn, they need to change the name. I do think that a 50$ buck level would be nice though. Leg for the knowledge

As a recent grad you can join for a reduced price.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

Join us in the Key Players Club

I find it extremely saddening that people wouldn't pay 5 bucks to get into the spring game. a rail is 2 tickets to the spring game. come on guys. if you cant spare 5 bucks for your favorite team then......get out of here and joint the team down the roads spring festival. you want a better VT but cant dig in your pockets to pay what is essentially the cost of a soda and a bag of chips at the gas station.... come on man.

#Bapn ain't EZ

Wanna win put boobie in! Let boobie spin coach!

I find it extremely saddening that people wouldn't pay 5 bucks to get into the spring game.

t's not the financial costs - is the time cost. The spring game isn't that fun to watch, unless we have a new coach/offense being installed. Most exciting players are no-contact, get limited snaps, or don't suit up at all. The play calling is vanilla/watered down. It's not that it's not worth $5, it's that I'd rather spend my time at the tailgate or bar, and then read the TKPC breakdown in the upcoming week. If there's a new QB or new coordinator, or I want to see some recruit we just landed, I'll wonder in for 30 min, but if I have to deal with lines, or cash, or would rather booze, it's not worth it to me.

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On the note of #1, can the hokie club just setup a Paypal/Venmo/Zelle account in the meantime? I probably wouldn't even need a text to do it if it was just easier than going to their website.

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

In a brief recon mission to see if VT's athletic doner website is on par with other's I came across IPTAY's brick engrave donation option. This would be an attractive idea esp if it could be done with Hokie Stone. Just let me know where its being installed and then as a bonus I have more incentive to return to campus to see my brick. People could also pay more to have them displayed in more prominent locations.

A Hokie Stone should cost a LOT more than a brick.

Someone posted the Hokie Club should do something where you get a text after each win saying "text Hokies to donate $5 to the Hokie Club".

Could TKP make something like that with the proceeds going to the Hokieclub, and the Hokieclub points gained from it can be used to get better/more parking passes for TKP Tailgates?

Also, we could show the Hokieclub how successful it is.

Ps I am dumb, so if it's a dumb idea that's why

The trick is getting everyone's phone number to begin with.

Which the Hokie Club has.

Need an easy way to opt out, though.

Announce something on TKP and let people sign up

How about pre-season pledges?

Every TD I Jollyman21 will give 5$ for every TD or 3 pointer and at the end of the season that's my pledge

Keep calm, Gobble on

I pledge $25 for every Coleman Fox touchdown.

With my luck he'll break Suggs' TD record.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

What about just a thread within TKP. TKPers willing to donate 100$ for every win. If you get 100 people to agree and we get 10 wins this year that's 100,000$ generated extra just fron TKP members. IPHAW badge included for participating members (I pay hundred a win). Then you don't have to sulk so hard after a loss because you keep your weekly 100$. Boom problem solved. Lets go get those five stars.

I'm in.

Also spoke with a Hokie Club rep over a beer and I'll let yall know they read all of the threads here

Keep calm, Gobble on

they read all of the threads here

They're going to start tuning us out, unless they're really into mayonnaise.

They're certainly turning some folks out.

Mostly on other sites though...

Keep calm, Gobble on

If they don't have a good sense of humor about condiments, they better avoid most of the JJ rumor threads.

With this logic we all should place $100 bets on the other team, so if we lose we all win!

Come to Blacksburg and see what the Hokie Pokie is really all about

Maybe we should copy LOLUVA and bet on the other team to win and throw the games to W&M and ODU. That is why they keep losing, right?

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

Maybe we could open up Beating UVA to the entire student body, $10 bucks each. That'll pay for an extra assistant coach.

/s
(like when we used to hit a car with sledgehammers during spirit week)

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-What we do is, if we need that extra push, you know what we do? -Put it up to fully dipped? -Fully dipped. Exactly. It's dork magic.

Dairy Club milkshakes. Haven't seen one at a game in years. But if they were there, I'd buy one every game.

At football games? There every game under the South Endzone stands.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

Join us in the Key Players Club

Was not aware. Last time I had one, it was being sold by people with trays in the stands.

Interesting... Just got 2 texts from the University today and it looks like they are testing out capabilities to actually do something like the first suggestion here. The first text had a link that took me to mobilecause.com which is an event fundraising site.

HokieChem, it looks like they were listening and actually implemented one of your ideas!

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Just got the same thing

Same - kinda thought it was spam / identity theft

Danny is always open
23 can't read

Just a reminder that today is the last day for the $5 Hokie Hy Challenge.

solved this one guys. its easy..... join the big 10. boom. youre welcome.

#Bapn ain't EZ

Wanna win put boobie in! Let boobie spin coach!

Worked for Maryland.

They just had to sell their soul and agree to be the Big 10's doormat.

Fire Commissioner Jimmy and replace with someone cheaper, but equally crappy at their job. Or Fire Jimmy and replace with someone who can actually get us conference revenue.