ASK TKP: Over or Under 8.5 Wins For the Hokies in 2018?

Diamond Sportsbook International released its 2018 ACC football win total projections. 1. Are you going over or under 8.5 wins for the Hokies? 2. What's the most attractive over/under on the board?

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Most attractive is betting UVA under 5

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Under, but barely at 8-4.

Syracuse is the most attractive over. If they still have Dungey they'll win 5 games with their schedule. They ought to beat Wagner, Western Michigan, and U Conn with a strong chance home against UNC and @Wake.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

I have 9-3. Can't explain why and it's why I don't bet.

UVA (5 wins) I'd take the under all day.

"Welcome to the Terror Dome." -- Corey Moore

Over. Easy money.

Under

That way, a bowl season feels like a win. Boom, happiness. Nirvana achievement unlocked.

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Over, 9-3.

I'd take the under on UVA but also Louisville under 8.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

Over unless Ricky Walker gets hurt

Also, with sports gambling coming to a river boat near you soon, Clemson wins 10 games and you win an under? yes please- best bet on the board, Clemson under.

I bet Clemson wins 12 regular season games this year

Please no, I need these seasons to stop, the upstate is unbearable.

agreed. and worse, my clemson mother-in-law is unbearable.

I just moved to the heart of USCe territory but if I wasn't aware that the college was just 15 miles away I'd think I ended up right in the middle of Clemson and USCe...this could be a rough season in this office.

I assume you're talking about Columbia or the greater Columbia area, it's hot as hell there but at least Lake Murray is great. So if you're into fishing/lake recreation you could be in for some really fun summers.

Yeah I'm in Elgin but it has been miserably hot here for the past week thankful that we've gotten rain the past two days.

I just came from the 'Devyn Ford Nuclear Implosion' thread and do not believe we will win a single game again for at least 3 season.

I'll take that bet. I am amazing at gambling...

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"Welcome to the Terror Dome." -- Corey Moore

Dang, you're thinkin' 4??

If you think that was a nuclear implosion you should look at the past two seasons' Georgia Tech vent threads.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

And expect the same again if we lose a key coastal game at home to a team that completes 3 passes all game, as we now have an "offensive" head coach and still have the best defensive coordinator in America. It's very demoralizing to tailgate from 7am to gametime, be in a good position in the coastal and then watch the belly dive and ACC's 10th ranked defense beat your ass. IIWII

I shouldn't have said anything.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

It's very demoralizing to tailgate from 7am to gametime

Your doing it wrong

Come to Blacksburg and see what the Hokie Pokie is really all about

This is the correct and only response considering we have a coach who has gone 10-3 and 9-4 in his first two seasons with two big recruiting wins and one big recruiting loss....and a kid who went under the radar that became one of 11 of the highest regarded quarterbacks in the country...

we should:
1. expect there will be no wins for the foreseeable future
2. ignore all previous recruiting wins and focus only on losses
3. tweet at said recruits who choose elsewhere to completely shoot ourselves in the foot for any chance of a flip
4. be upset we have a coach who can take a team from 4 mediocre seasons to two 9+ season wins in his first two years
5. put recruiting on a pedestal as if its more important than actual wins
6. put recruiting on a pedestal as if its actually a good predictor of future success
7. decide year 3 is Fuente's Natty or bust year

Can we just have this pinned to the top of that "other" thread?

Go Hokies

I have no idea. Freshmen and Sophomores will hopefully be leading the team in tackles, interceptions, throwing yards, and receptions. This makes me want to choose the under, but maybe we finally have enough talented young folks that can contribute at a high level early to win the games we are supposed to.

I think we could win 7 if it doesn't come together, but if we stay competitive and get better after the first game, I would be back at the 9 or 10 we'd all like to see.

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We beat GT, we go over. Don't and we're under. I don't follow GT, but picking them at 6 wins seems low. Its the pre-season, so I'll bet absolutely nothing on the over.

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

UVA under 5 wins - thinking they'll get 1 ACC win next year, either UNC or Pitt @ home, but not both.

NC State over 7 wins - They should be 5-1 or 6-0 come the matchup with Clemson. I think they'll get 3 wins out of @Cuse, vs FSU , vs Wake, @Louisville, @UNC.

Cuse is iffy at 4.5. They'll probably start 3-1, but who knows if Dungey can stay on the field come ACC play. Baber's get's canned it they are under .500.

I try not to bet on my own teams, especially not the Hokies, especially not football season...

I will also take the over. I am feeling 9 wins this year, I think we actually have some serviceable depth to stave off the injury bug and I believe Bud can scheme around the weakness at DT.

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Bud will have his work cut out for him with inexperienced DTs, LBs, and CBs.

I thought all the CBs switched to Penn State {DUCKS}{🦆🦆🦆}

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I have us at 8 wins, 2 maybes, 2 probable losses.

I'll take the over.

Never Forget #1 Overall Seed UVA 54, #64 UMBC 74

Under (8-4) - defense is young and not sure how explosive the offense will be until we see how the receivers step up. I'll assume a loss to FSU, Miami and probably lose 2 between Notre Dame, GT, Duke, UNC or BC.

We could easily go 9-3 or 10-2 but I feel like the defense may have a few early season, out of position situations that allow a Duke or GT to hold on and steal a game. Hope the offense steps up early to take the pressure off.

And I'll take FSU under - they have Miami, Louisville, Clemson, ND and Florida on the schedule (plus the 1 game a year they hand over to NCSU / Syracuse). Gonna be tough for them to 9 wins with a new coach and Francois.

Over, no doubt in my mind

Definitely under. This is the year the rent comes due for poor recruiting late in the Beamer years. Lack of a running game prevents the offense from covering for the personnel losses on the defensive side, and you're looking at a 6-6 or 7-5 regular season.

It starts getting better again in 2019.

Even if you assume losses to FSU, Miami, ND, what three other games are we going to lose? GT, Pitt, Duke? That wouldn't be recruiting issues from the past, that would be a meltdown of pretty epic proportions.

Second year QB (come at me), some more experienced receivers, and some (admittedly) young restocked talent on defense. I'm not saying it's our Natty year, but I don't see us losing six games.

Totally agree, Jackson will be improved as will our receivers and I really think McClease will turn a lot of heads. 9-3

Holston, too.

Never Forget #1 Overall Seed UVA 54, #64 UMBC 74

Yup, I expect to lose two of GT/Pitt/Duke, with an outside shot at dropping one to BC (who greatly improved last year and has tons coming back).

Over, I like 10-2. Losing to either FSU/Miami but not both and Notre Dame. We get FSU at the best possible time but it's in Doak, new coaching staff won't let Miami push us around in Lane and CJF finally doesn't lose to Paul Johnson by making bonehead coaching decisions. JJ has an even better year by hopefully staying healthy and the young WR's impress. Haven't had a running game since Obama's first term so I'm not gonna factor that in. On D...In Bud We Trust.

Fuck it, it's "talking season"! Go Hokies!

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FSU - W
W&M - W
ECU - W
ODU - W
DUKE - W
ND - L
UNC - L
GT - W
BC - W
PITT - L
UM - L
UVA - W

8-4, defense might have some learning bumps, offense will show flashes, I could see us losing at least 1 in that middle ACC stretch that we 'shouldnt'

9-4 with a close bowl win

You had me in agreement until I got to UNC, no way we lose to them the way we have spanked them the last 2 years. Would like to hear your thoughts on why a L to them?

1-0 every week

Under. Cuse with the over. Easy money

If a tree falls in Scott Stadium does it make a sound?

FSU - W (if we win here we beat Miami, if we lose here, we lose to Miami)
W&M - W
ECU - W
ODU - W
DUKE - W
ND - L
UNC - W
GT - W
BC - W
PITT - W
UM - W
UVA - W

So I would say either 11-1 or or 9-3; either way I don't see us below 9 wins assuming we don't lose a stupid game.

I hope you can handle disappointment. I'm surprised people(besides 5thFuller) would even toy with the idea of more than 10 wins. Fuente has never beaten GT. His good Memphis teams even struggled against similar triple option teams. They are his kryptonite. Our defense is almost certainly going to take a step back this year. Unfortunately, our offense isn't ready to adequately cover for that step back so the team as a whole will take a step back. JJ's uninspiring spring game performance doesn't give me the sense he has made significant leaps forward. I expect him to be slightly improved himself but he's not going to have a reliable pass catcher like Phillips this year so it would surprise me if his stats are as good or better than last year. You can have the best qb in the nation but of Sean Savoy keeps dropping passes it won't matter. Until our running game proves itself on the field I'm going to continue expecting a disappointing ground attack which well coached teams will smother.
Essentially, I think most teams will make our offense one dimensional, daring our qb to beat them with inexperienced, unproven wide receivers. More than three of the teams we play should find success with that strategy. Defensively, we're not going to post any shutouts and we'll likely give up more than 30 points to teams with competent offenses. There will be mistakes at all 3 levels of our defense throughout the season. There just isn't enough experience and for the dline there are barely enough warm bodies to feel comfortable going into fall.

If a tree falls in Scott Stadium does it make a sound?

I appreciate all the support, and I appreciate all the hate I am getting. I will continue to work as hard as I can to be the best I can be and bring this team a championship. Go Hokies 🐔 - Josh Jackson

Dude. Took the words out of my mouth...and some.

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Except Buds defense is who will win or lose against the triple option not Fuente. The triple option didn't beat us at all last year. We actually stuffed it. The three deep passes for TDs beat us. And we still almost won with how poorly we played on offense.

If you don't want to recruit clowns, don't run a clown show.

"I want to punch people from UVA right in the neck." - Colin Cowherd

Our offense plays differently when the coaches believe we're only going to get 8 possessions. For whatever reason Fuente seems to play scared against teams that play ball possession football like the Jackets. Our offense is too conservative and as a result the productivity is way down. Bud's defense can only do so much against GT...at some point the offense has to come out and score. They are scared to try against GT under Fuente...and his Memphis team looked the same against Navy....scared...too conservative. Worried that they'll only have a handful of possessions....that fear cripples the system and it lays an egg. I'm very happy with and supportive of Fuente and his staff but one thing I have noticed is that they really struggle when they are afraid they won't get the ball very often. I don't know why but it's a reality. I won't ever count on Fuente's VT teams beating GT unless we have drastically more talented players or Paul Johnson leaves.

If a tree falls in Scott Stadium does it make a sound?

Still though, had the defense not gotten burned with 3 50+ yd TD scores then the game wouldn't have even been an issue even with the difference in playcalling by the offense. I give GT one drive (with the long reverse). Other than that we stopped them every time except the same pass play that we all of the sudden couldn't defend.

Not saying Fuente doesn't change his strategy based on it, but it's the defense that lets the opposing offense score.

If you don't want to recruit clowns, don't run a clown show.

"I want to punch people from UVA right in the neck." - Colin Cowherd

Fuente was not a McMillian guy, and he knows that Peoples, McClease, Holston, Fox and the 5 ACC ready OL on the entire roster cold not run the ball effectively against a medicore ACC defense in GT. THAT has been the issue. Fuente thinks (knows) that to beat GT on offense, we need to pass the ball almost exclusively or have the QB run it in desperation. You can't keep the ball away from GT without a good running game, and we haven't had one. Perhaps this year our running game can at least take the mental pressure off of Fuente in terms of gameplanning for GT.

On the flip side a better offense keeps the triple option off the field. Last year we had more than enough chances to beat the bees and Fuente made the wrong call on going for it on 4th down rather than taking his points. He admitted he changed his strategy expecting to have few possessions to score and it bit him.

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FSU - L
W&M - W
ECU - W
ODU - W
DUKE - W
ND - L
UNC - W
GT - L
BC - W
PITT - W
UM - L
UVA - W

8-4 but I'd go under if you forced me to choose. Running game will be a real struggle, and this year's defense will have some growing pains.

UVA has something like 5 healthy scholarship D-Lineman this year, they could beat Richmond, Indiana, Ohio, Liberty but I don't see how they manage to pull off another one.

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The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Ohio and Indiana will both be tough outs. Bobcats have one of the better established coaches in the G5, they'll give the Cavs fits. Meanwhile Indiana beat UVA last year and should be improved in year 2 under Tom Allen. And now that the thoroughbreds have all cycled out I have to imagine UVA starts taking steps backwards without the blue chip talent to prop them up.

@ FSU - L
W&M - W
ECU - W
@ ODU - W
@ Duke - W
Notre Dame - L
@ UNC - W
GT - W this year...have the bye week to get ready
BC- W
@ Pitt - L...Pitt gets the W they probably should've had last year.
Miami - L
Virginia - W

8-4 (5-3)

@ FSU - W
W&M - W
ECU - W
@ ODU - W
@ Duke - W
Notre Dame - W
@ UNC - W
GT - W
BC- W
@ Pitt - W
Miami - W
Virginia - W
ACCG(Clemson): W
Orange Bowl( Penn State): W
NCG( Alabama): W

You forgot the part where we flip Ford just before NSD.

We flip Ford after beating Penn State in the semi finals (orange bowl), but before beating Alabama in the Natty to stake our claim as Kings of college football for years to come.

Give me the over with 9 wins - we lose to FSU, ND, and Duke, and barely squeak by UNC. We're down late against GT, and JJ throws an 70 yard, Tyrod/Nebraska-esk bomb, and we somehow win the game, despite losing in almost every statistical category. The team rallies around that win and manages win out the regular season in ugly fashion, but still manages to stun Miami by 2 TDs. We finish the regular season ranked 21.

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7-5 to 9-3 seems like a reasonable range, Vegas definitely did a good job of picking a line.

Nobody seems very optimistic around here
Expect the best and hope for the best... i think that's how it goes

I'm fine with that as long as you can handle the disappointment. Heck, I dream about going undefeated multiple times every off-season. But I'm experienced enough now to know that isn't realistic. I can hope for the best but still show love and support for the team at it's worst

If a tree falls in Scott Stadium does it make a sound?

Every year I hope for it.. Somebody asks what I think, its undefeated.
I can live with the disappointment, because I haven't grown up to see a true national championship worthy team yet. I am confident we can and will get there soon though.

Under - I'm not really confident in the offense we're going to put out there and there's too much youth on the defense to rely on them to win games against good competition.

Just PLS nab 9-10 Ws this season to hold steady. And pls make 2 of them ND & GagTech...

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7 or 8 wins this year. Under

My stock prediction every year is 9-3, so give me the over. My head says under at 8-4 but I say we pull a surprise somewhere and beat a team we're not expected to, likely Miami.

i have no idea what we're gonna do. 8 wins seems right. still don't trust us again GT or Pitt.

i think BC is an easy over. their running game is scary good. they could easily start 6-0. that's a rough second half of the schedule though (louisville, miami, @VT, clemson, @fsu, syracuse). i think clemson is their only guaranteed loss.

Under, 8-4 seems reasonable for a rebuilding year. Losses to Canes, Nolies, and Irish plus our annual game that we have no business losing...

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With the recruiting class that Buzz has coming in, to go with the returners from last season, I think they EASILY get over 8.5 wins in 2018. Total wins I look to be around 22 on the year.

I see 3 toss up games in FSU, ND, and GT(just because) and 1 L with Miami

Guarantee we drop a stupid gimmie so we would need to win 2/3 of the toss ups.

I will remain hopeful and take the over.

I see 6 potential losses. We won't lose all 6 but I think factoring in a learning curve with young players leads to a week one loss at FSU. We definitely lose one more. That leaves 4 toss ups, so I would bet 8-4 with a 10-2 ceiling. I dont bet, but I would take the under.

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As long as we have 7 wins I am happy.

9. Over.

Under. We have few playmakers, very few. The d is super green. I hope I'm wrong.

"I play real sports, not trying to be the best at exercising..." - KP

Tough to predict wins/losses but it does seem like the ACC is getting
stronger as a whole.

10-2 with losses against FSU and the annual "team we should beat but don't" game. Notre Dame and Miami lost a lot of experience, and a respectable year is in order. I thought the skill positions gained some solid experience last year and if JJ improves like all the pundits believe he will the offense will be better and make up for the inexperience of defense.

I see two locks:

BC-over. They return a lot of starters and have a great running game.

Louisville-under. Way under. They will be lucky to win six games. The same terrible O-line is going to have to protect a new QB that isn't Lamar Jackson. And they open the season playing Bama! For the second year in a row, Bama will knock an ACC team's QB out for the season. UL is going to be like last years FSU, but with way less talent. And their already garbage defense lost its best player to the draft.

"Never half-ass two things. Whole-ass one thing."
-Ron Swanson

"11-0, bro"
-Hunter Carpenter (probably)

8-4
Too many toss ups

Over. 15 > 8.5. Definitely over.

FSU - L
W&M - W
ECU - W
ODU - W
DUKE - L
ND - L
UNC - W
GT - W
BC - W
PITT - L
UM - W
UVA - W

I'm going this route bc I'd rather see us go 8-4 and win 1 of the 3 marquee games (FSU, ND, UM) than go 9-3 and lose each of those. We need a big-game win this year. I think that we under prepare for Duke coming home from ODU and looking forward to ND, so I think we lose 2 in a row there. We'll get GT this year on Thursday night, and we'll get Miami at home bc that's just about the time they'll be choking.

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We have a good shot at 10 wins, I think we can really get there

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This site sees us at realistic best chance 11-1, and realistic worst chance 7-5. Seems good to me