November 2018 - Recruiting Thread

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Don't you love when fans take recruiting into their own hands

That was on October 6th. Lots has happened since then.

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

what was

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

My bad, your right, that was today, I was looking at another tweet. Nevermind...

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

In fairness to Virginia Tech Bills, being a PWO at VT is better than being on Scholarship at that Dumpster fire of a school in Maryland

So Virginia Tech Bills is in charge of handing out offers now?

Man, I hope not...

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

I mean, Tayvion did retweet this last night.

Outspoken team cake advocate. Hates terrapins. Resident Macho Man Gif Poster. Distant cousin to Dork Magic. Frequently misspells words.

I believe he would need a scholarship offer to accept first. Last I knew he doesn't have an offer from VT.

Come to Blacksburg and see what the Hokie Pokie is really all about

@espntankkk

maybe im just hypersensitive after all of our off field drama, or maybe "kkk" is better just avoided in your twitter handle.

he is a Murland commit

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

C'mon November, bring us some good news!!!

With (early) national signing day just around the corner, are we expecting pretty much everyone to sign early like last year?

Do we know who's planning to enroll in Jan.?

J.R. Walker is a early enrollee

That's wonderful news.

As we know, Fu is very much into loyalty and commitment. If someone doesn't plan on signing during the early period then the staff takes that as not being committed and they are not too fond of it. Artis played with the idea of dragging it out to NSD last year and Fu and the guys shut that idea down pretty quick.

We have offered a scholarship to JUCO DT and Minnesota commit Keonte Schad.

Keep them coming. We need 2-3 JUCO/Grad Transfers this offseason.

I'm sure there will be some attrition, too. Maybe we can get some more.

I like how our last offer to a DL Minnesota commit worked out

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Wasn't that Kyshoen Jarrett?

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

Kyshoen Jarrett was a DL commit?

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

He was so twitchy and undersized we turned him into a rover.

Was thinking Jarrett was the only Minnesota commit we've snagged. Not a DL of course

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

Ah yes, you are correct... Thanks

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

Jarrett was from Pennsylvania

WVU has a relatively high amount of JUCOs and transfers in their two deep on the defensive line, and their run defense improved vastly from last season. I'm glad we are going that route as well.

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We don't have a choice. Walker and Mihota are gone. We don't have too many options at DT. Hewitt, Porcher, and Burke will be the only guys (outside of incoming class) at DT? Those guys are likely backups. We need some big time DL transfers.

I mean, Hewitt has been a starter all year, and Porcher has been a nice surprise IMO - he put on some weight (& looks like he could put on more) and has played pretty well when you consider the move and the youth. Not saying they're killing it by any stretch, but you can only cook with what's in the fridge, right?

Unless Figueroa and/or Schad come in and blow doors, Hewitt and Porcher project as starters at DT in 2019

You're the only ones that I can talk to about this, you guys.

JUCO's and grad transfers are going to pick schools where they think there is room for them to play immediately. They will certainly have to beat out Porcher and Hewitt on the practice field, but when you are going all out for JUCO/Grad transfer players that signals that the coaching staff thinks there will be potential PT available in the near future at those positions. We recruited Webb to compete for a starting corner spot, we recruited Brewer to compete for the starting QB spot, etc.

Well, yeah. This all kind of goes without saying.

I'm just making sure we're all agreed that those are our best options as of now. And that we shouldn't assume we're gonna get either of these guys. Heck, lots of folks thought Deng was a drop in the bucket a month ago and now we're in a top-5 with LSU, aTm etc.

You're the only ones that I can talk to about this, you guys.

Speaking of, I know we like the predictions on Deng (100% VT cb's rn), but anyone got #sauce on whether we'd take both DT's?

Let me rephrase: can we take both DT's numbers-wise?

Because frankly if we only have room for 2 I'd rather use both spots on tackles. I like Deng a lot - incredible athletic potential. But we're in way better shape at DE than DT (which is sad)...

You're the only ones that I can talk to about this, you guys.

Lots of talk about Deng being a backer, so yes, they would take Deng and more DTs.

@CraigThompsonVT

Of course, but what I was saying is that these recruiting choices are signaling dissatisfaction with either depth, starting talent, or both at the DT position. JUCO's and grad transfers are going to be pitched on playing time and competing for starting positions. I agree that until the ink hits the paper on the LOI that Hewitt and Porcher are our projected starters, but I also believe that this recruiting emphasis suggests that we aren't excited about that being the case.

There can't be too much excitement about them starting. Nothing against the kids, but we need more talent at the position. I see Hewitt and Porcher as good depth players. They will continue to develop and may become starters, but we can't wait for that to happen.

Also, who are the backups at DT if they are the starters? The freshmen coming in?

True true... but don't forget that with good coaching and development (hello Mr. Foster, hello Mr. Wiles) players get better year to year. So while none of us are comfortable with Porcher starting / playing tons of reps this season, he very well could explode next year..He could also very well progress only incrementally.

I agree we need to get some JUCO/Grad transfers though... regardless of how Hewitt and Porcher turn out next year we need more than a pair of starters able to contribute quality snaps at DT. JUCO transfers or graduate transfers are about the only option for instant contributors on the DL.. that is a man's position that requires a couple of years of physical growth, even for most 5-star freshmen.

We all know that you recruit positions of need.
And that we have no depth at DT.
And the prospective '19 starters aren't optimal.
And how you sell Jucos on playing time.

I know why we want them.
We just better damn well close on them.

You're the only ones that I can talk to about this, you guys.

was i supposed to read this to the tune of a song?

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

The answer is yes. I read it to the tune of "if you're happy and you know it" since we've been so gloomy as of late.

Part of me thinks that Porcher eventually passes Hewitt as the top dog next year and starts along with whoever we (hopefully) pull from the JUCO/GT ranks. His playmaking potential far surpasses Hewitt's and he already has more tackles and TFL than Hewitt does despite playing far fewer snaps. There was a series against W&M that was highlighted by TSL where Porcher's potential as a puss rusher was really evident.

Hewitt is a solid player but seems to be far less effective as a penetrator when playing starter's snaps. He seemed far quicker off the snap against FSU and W&M and has seemed to disappear as the season has gone on.

Hopefully Porcher can continue to develop over the next 12 months or so and gets closer to his potential. I think a polished Porcher and Figueroa with Hewitt sparing them would be a capable trio.

Why isn't Porcher starting over Hewitt? Is Porcher younger and needs time to develop?

He's really only been playing DT since the summer. Needed to add a little bit of weight and get used to playing inside but he's getting there. He definitely has more playmaking ability but doesn't seem to be as sound in his gap assignments yet.

Hewitts TFL's (or lack thereof) are while playing next to a guy (Walker) who is double teamed all the time . Hope he can improve this offseason because we need him. I wonder if he's just worn down due to the lack of depth.

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

I think that's exactly it. He's finally figured out his correct playing weight but it seems like now that he has lower mass he gets work down easier. Probably would be more effective playing 15-20 snaps.

Any thoughts on our chances of landing Figueroa? He has to see immediate playing time as a big plus.

"Give me a fu¢king beer", Anonymous Genius

Hard to say without him visiting but from what I've heard and seen in interviews, he's very interested in VT. Doesn't seem to mind going far away from home and has only set officials to VT and UCLA so far.

Porcher's potential as a puss rusher was really evident.

Say what again? Sounds like Porcher is following in the footsteps Seth Dooley.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

? Not even remotely the same. They don't play the same position. Porcher actually had some good D1 schoolers after him. Dooley was an athlete that didn't know how to play football, Porcher has literally been around the game his entire life. Not to mention that Porcher is 7 games into his career, so I'm not really sure how you could already say that his career is going to turn out the same way as Dooley.

WHOOOOSH

Pour some Beer on it

:(

in my younger days I considered myself a pretty good puss rusher who would get great penetration as well.

gross

Outside its night time, but inside its LeDay

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

I walked out of my front door on my way to work this morning wearing a VT polo, and ran into my neighbor. Got to talking and found out that Brandon Dorlus is his nephew, and that their entire family is super excited for him to play at Tech. Sounds like it was almost an immediate commitment when he was offered, but wanted to sit on it and make sure, but they're all excited for him to get to learn under Bud. He's also apparently been working on putting on some weight and is hoping to get some play time next season as a True Freshman - I just revisited his offer list, and he now has 28 total offers, including Clemson, Florida, Auburn, NCST, Oregon, Pitt, Tenn, Utah, UVA, Kentucky, and Louisville. Hopefully he pans out well! God knows we will need some DLine help next year.

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Only read this on about the 10th time I visited this thread. Happy Movember!

I added [3], and was planning on adding something random each month, HokieBen2010 just beat me to it this month. I'm just hoping to make the January thread, so I can add "[6] There is NNOOOO....rule #6."

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If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

Anyone have a list of recruits coming up for the BC game?

Current Notable Recruit Rankings (247/Rivals/ESPN)

Unanimous 4*
OG Brian Hudson #12 OG (ESPN), #11 OG (247), #25 OL (Rivals)

Consensus 4*
ATH Jaden Payoute (247/ESPN) #19 ATH (ESPN), #13 ATH (247)
S/ATH JR Walker (247/ESPN) #27 S (ESPN), #17 ATH (247), #33 ATH (Rivals)

Other 4*
WR Jacoby Pinckney (ESPN) #38 WR (ESPN), #55 WR (247), #56 WR (Rivals)
RB Keshawn King (ESPN) #20 RB (ESPN), #29 RB (247), #48 RB (Rivals)
CB Nyquee Hawkins (ESPN) #32 CB (ESPN), #31 S (247), #36 CB (Rivals)
ATH Tayvion Robinson (Rivals) #60 ATH (ESPN), #23 ATH (247), #17 ATH (Rivals)

Never Forget #1 Overall Seed UVA 54, #64 UMBC 74

What's the story on Sampah? I see we have a cb for him.

Dear lord, now that's the kind of recruits we need!

I don't have inside sources but Antoine Sampah's 247 page looks like the page of someone who hasn't tipped his hat and nobody really knows who he is favoring yet. We might have a real shot, but I don't know if that CB is worth getting our hopes up.

Update: That lone crystal ball to us has turned into 2 CB's for Clemson. So yeah, pretty much exactly what I said earlier. Worst case scenario with it being Clemson as well...

Don't get your hopes up, he's not going to come here. We have a better shot at Grimes but still a long shot

Recruit Prosim

Whoever downvoted you over this needs to go for a walk outside.

VB born, class of '14

I don't make the news I just report it

Bleeding burnt orange and chicago maroon

Anyone know who the Trinity Christian kid(s) from Jacksonville was there at the game?

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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Miles Brooks was there.

He could be a stud early for us it sounds like. Hopefully Isaiah and Chamarri are in his ear.

Drew Gunther just tweeted a commitment, no offer per 247, so assume a PWO

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BSME 2009

those offers tho

I'm guessing Brown and Georgetown don't offer full scholarships for football. Seems like a smart kid

I wonder if Johnny Moxon ever got any playing time at Brown?

"with all due respect, and remember I’m sayin’ it with all due respect, that idea ain’t worth a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin gettin’ it on" - Ricky Bobby

It was cool that he got that full ride, but he really lost focus on the game on Fri night.

That's awesome he included the slam about the "unfortunate state of the program", is there any way I can give him a leg for that tweet?

Yes, deposit legs here, they'll be held in escrow and transferred to him upon the opening of his TKP account.

Nobody will say it so I'll say it: That is some 5* bullshit!

Come to Blacksburg and see what the Hokie Pokie is really all about

It's a shame these days that kids have to put in their comment to "Respect my decision". Why arent their decisions being "respected"?

because you have internet tough guys that have to rip into a kid for going against their school.

In this case, I 1110% respect his decision!

Because all the other recruits put that in their commitment tweet and high schoolers aren't that creative or unique

Recruit Prosim

Because so many change their minds if they get just the right tweet from a fan. /s

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Thanks goodness!!! However, makes me feel old since I once lived in NUF...later known as Cochrane Hall. NUF was the New Undergraduate Facility built in the 80's and served as the student-athlete dorm back then. What was New then...sure is old now.

JP

Figueroa with two Cbs to UCLA

You put those words together, those are my favorite words, Popeyes and bahama
- Mike Burnup

There was an article on the front page of FB Rec on 247 today about him planning officials. I don't have any inside info, and I will remain confident in us having a chance until I hear otherwise, but I imagine its not the easiest sell to a Cali West Coast kid to come to rural SWVA.

They're probably the safer bet but means nothing until official visits in January. Right now he only has visits set to UCLA and VT and at most has one more open weekend prior to the early signing period, so it's very possible that those are the only two visits he takes.

I think if his decision were solely based on football then VT would be the choice, but obviously that isn't the reality. He is very intrigued by playing for Bud and Wiles.

I would watch out for Oregon as well if they come sniffing around.

Has anyone heard anything on Antoine Whitner???
3 star DT that has us warm on 247

originally from Richmond

You put those words together, those are my favorite words, Popeyes and bahama
- Mike Burnup

We were on him early but then seemed to really cool.

Because we are so loaded at DT? /s

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

solid offer list

Bleeding burnt orange and chicago maroon

A Hokies offer would be life changing or JUCO DT Williams

Free article, looks like Jomaious Williams would pounce on a Hokies offer as soon as we gave him one. Probably the safety valve option after Figueroa. Also of note, this article claims he will have three seasons of eligibility at Tech, but I'm not sure if that's a typo or not.

Three seasons to play two.

I read the sentence too fast, oops.

Plays low and quick with great motor at around 6-2 300... why no offer?

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

My only guess is that we are holding out to see what happens with Figueroa and Dorlus. We have limited spots so we probably want to know if Figueroa is a lost cause, and/or if Dorlus will flip to UF.

Thought I read something on here saying Dorlus was pretty solid commit for us even with a lot of new P5 offers. Have things changed?

No clue, I saw somewhere on TKP that his family was stoked for him to play for VT, so as far as I know he is solid, but with a recent UF offer and going on a visit there last weekend, I'm sure they are keeping their eyes on the situation with UF being a more prestigious program and closer to home.

Very unimpressed. Would be more of the same of what we have.

What we have? Sorry given the lack of even warm bodies after this year except undersized true freshman....

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

Taking warm bodies does us no good. That's part of the reason why we have such roster imbalance as it is. If someone isn't going to help the team then save the scholarship for the next year.

I think people forget that we have 8 scholarship DT's this year (Walker, Mihota, Hewitt, Porcher, Burke, Fullwood, Taylor, Dean). Like LA said, they problem isn't numbers but guys who are talented enough to help win games. Hewitt and Porcher are close and Vinny really isn't a DT and is playing hurt.

I think Dean is a walk-on.

Next year, we need to have something like:
DE:{Deng}, Debose, Proctor
DT: {JUCO/Grad}, Hewitt, Dorlus/Pollard
DT: {Grad/JUCO}, Porcher, Kendricks
DE: Garbutt, Belmar , Adams

If we don't get Deng, I would strongly consider moving Dalton Keane to DE. He was a DE/TE coming in and we have more HBacks than we need. Keane is a physical player and can help the team more on defense.

Adding filler at DT is okay, but like you guys are saying, not really that helpful. We could Burke, Fullwood or Taylor play in those spots that allow Kendricks/Dorlus/Pollard to redshirt. What we need is a JUCO/Grad level guys who can start so Hewitt and Porcher can learn on the job.

If we don't get Deng, I would strongly consider moving Dalton Keane to DE. He was a DE/TE coming in and we have more HBacks than we need. Keane is a physical player and can help the team more on defense.

You mean, take one of the most promising spots of our offense and move him to one of the more promising spots on our defense? Our DEs are fine. It's tackle that we're really struggling with.

Always choose joy.

Well, then move Keene to DT. /s

Yeah. Time to consider all options.

I like Keane a lot and said when he was recruited I only wished we had two of him. I think we would be a better team with Cunningham, Mitchell, DeIulius manning the HB spot and Keane at DE with Garbutt and Debose.

Maybe Keane can't play DE. I'm not at practice, don't know that. But assuming he could since he was kinda recruited at both positions, I stand by my take that we would be a better team with him at DE.

I don't agree that DE isn't a problem. Gaines is effectively done for next year, we saw Mihota's path and should assume something similar with Gaines. If he comes back, great, but for planning purposes, he's not a factor in 2019. I like Garbutt a lot and am pleased to see him getting so much time now. He's got All-ACC potential. DeBose, I believe, has been hurt but he's shown at the top of the depth chart this week. Excited to see him play more. Proctor is a project and still looks it. Belmar is solid yet unspectacular, I would like to see him working with Garbutt to make him better. So I think we need one more DE. We are getting no pressure and that's killing our DB's. We can't blitz much and expose even more of our weaknesses. And our DE's are getting eaten up on pulls. These guys are young and will improve, but we need to at least be prepared that maybe they won't.

Proctor is a project and still looks it

I believe in HS he was an OLB so there is a transition, but I don't think "project" is the right thing to call a 4-star/UA All-American .

Proctor is a project at DE.

It's looking like Deng will be a backer for us, FWIW.

This may be a stupid question but I always get confused. When you say 'backer' do you mean any of the Mike/OLB/Whip positions, or just the OLB position?

Is whip even considered a backer, or are they still considered a DB (i.e. is Ladler a linebacker or a free safety?).

I always get so confused on who is considered what position in Bud's defense. I could be wrong, but it seems like linebacker is one of the positions we are set with quality depth, so unless Deng is a phenomenal LB talent (I haven't really watched or read much on him) he could be used better at DE?

Backer is our other inside LB (on video games it's usually labled as an OLB because 4-3), who plays to boundary side. It's sort of a combo of both ILB and OLB.

Notable Backer examples: Xavier Adibi, Tremaine Edmunds.

Gotcha, so he'd essentially be taking Dax's spot (assuming he can beat him out for the starting role)?

Possibly, depends on what we do with Dax long-term. Dax was originally believed to be a Mike, but his path to the field this season has been through the Backer position. As of right now, he would be competing with Dax and Dylan Rivers if the rumors of him projecting as a Backer are true.

Cool, thanks for clearing that up! I know the names and where they are on the field, but never know what their official positions are outside of the DLine and CBs.

I would be okay with Dax at Mike and Deng at Backer. But I don't mind Kearney/Ashby, both are solid.

Hokies Defense:
Left Cornerback
Right Cornerback
Free Safety
Rover (Strong Safety)
Whip (Nickel / Field OLB)
Mike (Middle Linebacker)
Backer (Inside Linebacker/Boundary OLB)
Stud* (7-tech DE)
Nose* (1-tech DT)
Tackle* (3-tech DT)
End* (5-tech DE)

*not sure but I think we did away with the specifics regarding DT's and DE's recently, similar to how we got rid of Boundary CB and Field CB designations. Both DT's are expected to be able to play 1 or 3 depending on the call, both corners are expected to be able to play field techniques and boundary techniques. etc etc.

This flexibility helps against uptempo teams because our D doesn't have to re-align as often, but it hurts us because we can't dial players into the roles most suited to their abilities. For example Farley would be playing Field Corner due to his lack of physicality (but also because of his elite speed and ability to play the ball)

It's crazy that (under the current roster cumstances) we can attract a blue chip JUCO backer but have so much trouble finding a serviceable JUCO DT.

Using /s is for cowards.

My bad, when we were recruiting Dean it was for scholarship but then he didn't have a spot.

Deng is most likely going to play Backer for us. Gaines will be back but limited to start the season. Hewitt and Porcher will most like start (Hewitt will be a R-Jr. and started this year so doesn't need more time to learn, Porcher maybe a little but played alot fo meaningful snaps this year). We may find one Grad/JUCO good enough to start but definitely not two. I see either Fullwood or Taylor transferring, with a a rotation of Hewitt, Porcher, Grad/Juco and the best freshman. Maybe 2 Grad/JUCO can play right away but I expect Hewitt and Porcher to surprise people next year.

IMO, Hewitt's skills are best as a backup. He's not bad, but he's better in short bursts.

Porcher, IMO, will be a really good player but I would like to give him another year to learn on the job. But if he had to start, we would be okay.

Agreed. Have been saying that about Hewitt all year. He's twice as effective when he's rested and is able to use his explosiveness. Him trimming down was a double edged sword. He's much more explosive now but he has to expend too much energy holding his ground on gap assignments. Would be much more effective as a rotational piece.

Porcher will be a good player and I am pretty high on him. He needs to contribute to add mass and get used to the physicality of the interior, he has the ability to penetrate like none of the other DT's slated to be on the roster next year.

We can always tell Dax to "let himself go" and put on some extra pounds. He's only about 20 lbs away from being a D-tackle at this point and he's just a freshman that will inevitably get bigger and stronger. This might end up being his progression anyway, so maybe with our lack of depth at D-Tackle this is something to consider. His dad did play D-tackle for Wake Forest, so it is in his genes. If we land Deng then this should really be considered as that would give us more LB depth to replace Dax there. Just food for thought.

yeah I don't like this at all. I think Dax has all the physical makings to be an absolute monster at LB. I only wish he was a few inches taller.

Come to Blacksburg and see what the Hokie Pokie is really all about

Dax will never be anything but a LB.

Wouldn't be so sure

I would. People don't understand what Dax and Bud mean to each other. Bud wouldn't put Dax at a position that he didn't think would benefit his future the most.

I understand fully of that relationship, and agree with you 100% on him putting Dax at the position that would most benefit him. I don't agree long term that position is backer. I know he's a highly rated recruit and people hope/wish that be the case, but just use your own eyes. He's a pretty stout guy already 240-250lbs at 6'1. He's a freshman and will naturally get bigger, and going through hilgartification will get bigger still. How many linebackers here or anywhere that you have seen are 250-260-270lbs? Not many, and of those they are likely taller than 6'1". How many linebackers in the nfl do you even see at his current size (before he gets bigger)? I just scrolled through a dozen nfl rosters and found one comparison 6'0 240.....every other linebacker 6'2" or shorter was 215-235 lbs which is required in a pass happy league.

It's possible he is already struggling to maintain the weight he is playing at now. I doubt becoming a man and going through hilgart is gonna make that any easier. I've also seen many times on this thread alone and through other threads that Wiles likes twitchy 260-280 lbs dts......Dax is one offseason from being in that weight range if he wanted to be, and he'd be the most explosive DT we would have on the current roster even with the added weight.

There is literally a 0% chance that dax is going to play defensive tackle.

I'm using info that I've been told, not just using my eyes. They're also trying to get Dax to get leaner not gain weight. If you look at a picture of him now compared to FSU, you can tell he's lost some baby fat. If Dax ever gets moved to DL I will get a TKP tattoo on my ass.

I will get a TKP tattoo on my ass.

so many pictures/gifs I want to post in response to this, but not a damned one is SFW

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Very few people will see that. You need a tat of Joe on the side of your neck. That would be special

Dax is losing weight and DeBose is gaining. Hmmmmm.......

Myron Warren (6'4 230) - Many, LA 2019 "3 * DE" was just offered. Raw but very explosive and twitchy like Wiles likes them. TCU decommit. Looks to have the frame that could move inside after some Hilgartification. Everyone in favor say leg!
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He likes to tackle, too.

"The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. " Rocky B.

This would be nice, tackling -what an asset for a defensive player. We need some dogs on defense, we are too small and look like boys against men. We need some heavy hitters, and people who want to tackle, not have to tackle.

I know he's only 240 now but I wonder if the SDE designation means he projects as a DT in the long run.

Using /s is for cowards.

This is most often the case with Hokie DL. Wiles likes the undersized, twitchy, penetrating DTs that usually play between 265-280. He certainly could fill out into that size. I love the violence with which he finishes tackles.

Players that 247 categorizes as SDE frequently wind up playing DT for us. Not always, but it's a solid bet

Piggybacking off your comment:

They are DT's or 3-4 Ends for most programs as well. There are certainly some base 4-3's that use DE's that large, but it's increasingly less common. Some B1G teams and Clemson tend to use DE's that big recently, but sometimes it's just a random occurrence where they are truly freakishly fast at that size.

A lot of base 4-3's use WDE's as ends. In contrast, a WDE is usually a pass rushing OLB in a base 3-4, such as Alabama.

The original idea of those designations was based on a base 4-3 usually having a 5 Tech SDE and a 7 or sometimes 9 tech (wide 9) as their pass rush specialist on the weak side. As Orion noted elsewhere in another comment. With the increase of spread offenses it became more and more common to have smaller, faster DE's so those designations aren't always as set in stone anymore.

For example, Miss State has a great DL. They play former 5* SDE recruit Jeffrey Simmons at DT and their ends are like 6'4 - 6'6 types who play between 230-250 lbs like Montez Sweat.

Tahj Gary suffered a broken Femur last night. Those can take years to fully recover from.

You have GOT to be fucking kidding me.

If I hadn't written anything I would have gotten mine submitted first

When it rains in pours. Rico Kearney is transferring, maybe we can get to a 25 man class after all

So uh how many LB's have we offered? Because the depth chart is only 3 scholarship guys now.

Counted wrong, my bad.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

Join us in the Key Players Club

What? Maybe for the remainder of the year but recruits can't help us there anyway.

Next year we will have Dax, Ashby, Rivers, Artis, and Tisdale on scholarship off the top of my head.

Jaylen Griffin too. I think Deng will be a OLB unless we can develop Garbutt, Proctor, Debose, and Adams.

Forgot about him, so that's a clean 6.

Deng is heading to bburg?

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Hopefully, but I was counting current linebacker Jaylen Griffen as the 6th.

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