Kelly Bryant transferring from Clemson.

https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/sports/college/clemson/2018/09/26...

"I've never been a distraction. I've never been in trouble with anything. To me, it was kind of a slap in the face."

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Won't anyone think of his roommate Peanut Butter Johnson?

edit: this headline started as "Jelly Bryant..." but has since been corrected. I regret nothing.

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Kobe's dad? Jellybean Bryant? The closest thing to Jackie Moon we will see in the modern sports era, when he coached and played well into his 50s, for the Boston Frenzy, an ABA team.

Jelly Bryant, you say?

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This is the exact opposite of the awesome of the gritty gif. WTF

If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous! With treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid...

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I was not prepared for this

Edit: Deleted, was too late.

Danny Coale Caught That Ball!!!

Is this the same guy that tried to post an Instagram of himself decked out in VT gear to garner interest?

That team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I've seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked.

No that was Chad Kelly

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Ah got it. Appreciate the assist Fireman

That team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I've seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked.

I think you mean Chad Jelly

I think he meant Swag Jelly

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Nah, it was Jag Shelly

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Were you not around for Swag Jelly?

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Always was a fan of KB - best of luck to him at his next landing spot.

No idea what everyone else here is referencing. I'm OoTL, someone explain.

As far as Bryant goes, I was reading yesterday that he didn't show up to practice and was talking about transferring. Interesting. Wonder where he ends up.

I believe Dabo gave Bryant the day off from practice.

dabo did give him monday off, after an apparently emotional meeting on sunday. but he didn't show up on tuesday.

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My Mom legitimately asked this question once.

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I'm assuming the original title said "Jelly Bryant". Just a guess though.

Even if he wanted to come to Blacksburg, I'm sure Clemson will block his transfer to any ACC schools.

Best of luck to him wherever he ends up.

If he gets his degree they can't.

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Oh, interesting.

Still though, what are the chances that he would want to come to Blacksburg, and that the coaches would want to bring him in for just one season?

Also, I was curious about this talk of him transferring since I thought he was a senior, and turns out I was right... But he's a true senior who hasn't used his redshirt yet, so he'll be able to take advantage of the new 4-game redshirt rule and still have eligibility left for next year.

He already has a degree. He can go wherever he wants for sure.

There are a couple of Atlantic division teams that will be replacing QBs after this season too. I guess it depends on how personal he wants to get with this, but that would become a must watch game.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

I saw this shit coming as soon as I read the articles about him skipping two days of practice. I really don't like how this looks for Clemson personally. Trevor ain't going anywhere play the two of them all you want that guy can read the writing on the wall don't give starter title to a freshman. Dabo could have easily played this safe and kept both.

Now he has almost zero safety net.

You also wonder again, how locker room feels about this. Puts the kid in a tough spot you know Kelly developed relationships while he was there.

But it's also responsible for Dabo to approach Bryant with the decision before the week 5 game, so he can make a decision for himself. Now Bryant can take the redshirt rule and have 1 full year at another team.

EDIT: Tweet from Klempson 247 Reporter

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Honestly hadn't thought about he could use this year as a redshirt. Very good point.

Your absolutely right and I'll give some credit to Dabo for being the honest guy on that. That doesn't change my opinion that what dabo did was stupid though.

It's gotta be tough all around. I mean, Georgia has to be going through the same thing with Justin Fields and Jake Fromm. Bama too.

Teams/Coaches get so excited for landing a top recruit that clearly has potential to be a huge asset to the program for the next several years, but also have a guy that has led the team to success in the past. For Bryant, he's a guy that has been there for four years, was behind Watson for two, and now had his time to shine as a Senior leader on the team. Deciding to leave on his part is tough - but it's what is best at the end of the day for the individual, as the decision ultimately affects their opportunity for the rest of their life.

Im 100% behind him looking out for himself and doing what's best for him

Jacob Eason Jake Fromm

FTFY. Jacob Eason is currently sitting out his transfer year at Washington.

No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

We don't love dem Hoos.

Jake fromm State Farm? He sounds hideous..

It's gotta be tough all around. I mean, Georgia has to be going through the same thing with Justin Fields and Jake Fromm. Bama too.

I get that you are saying that those situations are tough individually, but taking a step back, I don't think it's all that tough for each of those teams that have been in the NC game the past two years.

You will see this game, this upset and this sign next on ESPN Sportscenter. Virginia Tech 31 Miami 7

I know we like to talk shit a lot, and Dabo has his own faults, it's well documented at this point that he does a lot of negative recruiting about other programs, but he definitely cares a lot about his players. I know people who know him and his family really well, and he's definitely not some guy who is secretly a terrible person and it's all a facade.

You're right, he totally could have let Kelly start this game and then make the announcement next week that TL will be the starter moving forward and Kelly would have no choice but to stick it out at that point. One snap in the Syracuse game exhausts his eligibility.

It's funny that Kelly doesn't see it this way at all.

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He feels he wasn't given a fair chance and that Trevor was set up to succeed. I can assure you he doesn't hate Dabo.

I'm behind on Dabo shit talking, can you make a long story short and explain the negative r recruiting deal?

Leader of men...

We put the K in Kwality

Aw hell, can't you see that he's just inviting him over for dinner after the game?

don't give starter title to a freshman

Dabo named Deshaun Watson (Fr) the starter over Cole Stoudt (Sr). Given his track record this decade, I think he knows what he's doing.

Also, unlike Bryant, Stoudt didn't up and leave the team after being replaced.

No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

We don't love dem Hoos.

Stoudt kinda sucked and Watson was way more talented. Bryant is a very good QB that led them to the Playoff last year. They could've blown out most teams on their sched with Bryant starting and Lawrence developing behind doing mop up duty then taking over next year. I don't know if this is the best decision for a team with championship hopes. Georgia & Bama had serious starting QB problems last year (injury and Hurts cant pass), Clemson doesnt have those problems.

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Bryant really can't pass either, if we're being honest...

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but up until now he's gotten a pass. am i doing this right?

Chem PhD '16

Not quite. Your leg count is still positive.

No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

We don't love dem Hoos.

Cole Stoudt started the first two games, and didn't have the 4-game redshirt rule. He couldn't have transferred anywhere even if he wanted to.

Granted. But he could have said "screw it" and just left the team like a few of our recent QBs did.

No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

We don't love dem Hoos.

KB 11-2 as a starter? (1 of those losses was Syracuse a game he didn't even finish the 1st half in) cole stoudt.... I don't know but id imagine not nearly as good a record since boyd took them pretty far prior to stroudt and desean even further after.

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So he'll be UVa's or Pitt's starting QB next season

I hope he goes the russel Wilson route and heads to Wisconsin

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

Bryce Perkins has been pretty good for UVA and has another year of eligibility. Kenny Pickett at Pitt I believe is a true sophomore and showed promise at the end of last season, but has been pretty horrible this year. My short list would be Northwestern, Vanderbilt, NC State, Oklahoma State, West Virginia, and Purdue. Even if Bryant has some throwing limitations in the more passing based offenses, his legs might provide enough upside to offset that.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

Purely hypothetical, but GT? A QB that can throw decently but he goes there to showcase to scouts his running abilities...and he would get a chance to stick it to Clemson next year

No one who intends to make it to the NFL as a QB goes to GT to play QB.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

I mean showcase his running abilities for a non qb nfl job

No one who intends to make it to the NFL as a QB goes to GT to play QB.

Honestly I would say GT's system is too different and dependent on repetition and timing to bother transferring there for one season.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

Not sure I'm crazy about the new redshirt rule and how it's being used.
Say a team loses a game early on in the year, and looks like they don't have a shot at any title; playoffs or conference. They could simply "quit" their current team after 4 games and go to another school the following year. Seems like it's a major loophole that could be abused to stack teams the following season. Or a reason/excuse for a kid to quit on their team the current year.

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Well it's a good thing they can only do it once.

I like the new redshirt rule because it gives players more flexibility and leverage, which they have very little of once they sign with a school.

I don't think this thread is a good example of the redshirt rules being abused You are undefeated this year and take your team to cfb playoff last year and you get benched for a true freshman? I don't blame the guy.

Well, this is the first year of it, and the clock is ticking on 4 games. I bet we see more of this, maybe for different reasons, but can foresee guys dropping together to play on the same team the following year.

And yes, he led them to the playoff and already has his degree...so why not finish things out? Is it worth waiting 11 months to go to another school?

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He only has to wait till January.

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11 months to play for another school...

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Yeah, so his option is to ride it out as a backup, go to the NFL draft and say "pick me, pick me. I'm the guy that got beat out by a Freshman, but trust me, I'm ready to lead your NFL team."

I like the Russell Wilson approach. If you think you deserve better, go to another team and prove it. A lot of teams will want Bryant and Hurd.

I bet we see more of this, maybe for different reasons, but can foresee guys dropping together to play on the same team the following year.

There are scholarship limits, meaning that multiple scholarships would have to be available too. Don't forget that the teams with the best chance of making the playoff are constantly bringing in full (or even oversigned) classes of highly ranked players. If you have a good thing going with recruiting, developing players, and winning, it wouldn't make much sense to start taking less recruits every year so that you can play with one year rentals.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

I bet we see more of this, maybe for different reasons, but can foresee guys dropping together to play on the same team the following year.

Only if they graduate. See my post below.

The Poster Formerly Known As The Spirit Of Bernard Basham

Question about the rule (or about transferring, really): Has it been stated anywhere that the transfer "sit out" year is equivalent to this new redshirt year with games played?

The reason I ask is that historically, a transfer sit out year and a redshirt year have been equivalent: no playing the entire year. Now the redshirt year has been changed. Absent somebody that graduated (like Kelly Bryant), would somebody that played in four games and then sat out the rest of the season (say, Jalen McClesky from Oklahoma State) be able to play immediately at a new school, or would they still have to sit out a transfer year because they played this year?

I've not seen anything about the transfer sit out year and how it's changed based on the redshirt year changes. I'm wondering if some of these schools/players have thought to get guidance from the NCAA on this. A lot of people are assuming that the new redshirt year would serve as a transfer sit out year, and I'm not really convinced that's the case.

Edit: And apparently my thoughts were correct. Via an article on The Athletic (pay link), I saw a tweet from the NCAA, stating:

The football 'redshirt rule' adopted in June, allowing student-athletes to play in four games without losing a season, did not change transfer rules.

Learn more about transfers: http://bit.ly/2QVNOjv

Source: https://twitter.com/InsidetheNCAA/status/1044652938340315136

Quoting the article, the fine print reads:

Unless you are graduating, you are not automatically eligible to play next fall. The traditional transfer rules still apply to you — meaning that you will still need to fulfill the academic year in residence requirement before you are eligible to compete for your new school (unless you receive a waiver from the NCAA to do so).

The Poster Formerly Known As The Spirit Of Bernard Basham

The 1-year clock starts ticking the moment you start classes at the new school. If he were able to start classes mid-semester, or if they're on some strange schedule where a new term starts in October or something, then he might be able to transfer somewhere and play starting one year from when he walked into his first class.

Blake Barnett left Bama at about this time in the season. He went to a JC in California (which was on the quarter system), then was able to play the following Fall at ASU (he's now a grad transfer at USF). That 1 year clock is 3 "educational periods" (semesters/quarters, including Summer), so not necessarily a true year.

Interesting, thanks.

As I understand it, don't you have to graduate from the JC (associates?) to go back up to Div 1? If so, that circumvents the transfer sit out period.

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and you get benched for a true freshman? better QB

FIFY

Lol. Almost certainly true. Comes with some risk too. Only time will tell if it pays off.

I think your sample size of a first year player is too small to knowingly get rid of your senior quarterback.

There is more than just his Clemson play. It was pretty well accepted among recruiting outlets he'd be one of the best QBs in the nation as a true freshman. At the Elite 11, Trent Dilfer even said (as a high school senior), that if he went to the NFL at that moment, he'd be better than some NFL QBs.

At the Elite 11, Trent Dilfer even said (as a high school senior), that if he went to the NFL at that moment, he'd be better than some NFL QBs.

Do you actually believe that? Dilfer is able to make outrageous statements based on potential and fans will happily eat it up and ask for seconds because they want to believe their new QB recruit is going to bring home a national title. Saying that a high school QB is better than some NFL QBs is completely ridiculous.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

Agreed. Deshaun Watson was talking him up last season saying that Bryant would be an even bigger deal then he was. That has not yet proven out with time.

I'm OK with going by what Dilfer said at that specific Elite 11.

"I told them I could build a program out of all 12 of them," Dilfer recalls. "But if they had to ask me to pick one—only one—it would be Quincy Patterson. He's gone through and thrived through harder stuff than the rest of us at that age."

If you're reading the above post and thinking, "is this guy serious?!?," you can safely assume I'm not.

Yeah I recalled the statement about Quincy Patterson as well when making my comment. I quickly tried to see if Dilfer said anything about Andrew Ford in 2013, as he just missed the cut for the Elite 11, and found this ESPN article with plenty of quotes that seem absurd five years later.

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I agree with you, and wasn't using the quote in it's literal sense, which maybe I should have specified a little better. Only to support my reply - in that this decision isn't based on a handful of snaps during some OOC games. Lawrence is an elite talent, and has shown that well beyond the viewing eyes of casual fans during Clemson's first 3 or 4 games.

I'm not surprised Trevor Lawrence is now the starter. Dabo has always seemed to want a prolific passer leading his offense. Kelly Bryant has never been dangerous as a passer.

I am surprised Bryant claims not to have gotten a fair shot after having been the starter all last year and up until now... how much more time did he need?

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18 straight starts? Nope, not enough evidently.

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As someone who watched most of Clemson games there are two things that really stuck out.

1) Play calling was not equal for each QB, some of that is simply based on skillset, but I can completely understand if he feels like he got the shit end of the play calling stick, and that TL was set up to succeed and impress while he was forced to do a lot of the less flashy QB work.

2) He only has to go back three weeks to find a game where his presence in the game likely decided an outcome. Trevor Lawrence looked totally spooked in the second half against A&M and thats when they got back into the game. Kelly came in and led the TD drive that ultimately won the game. It's very likely they would have a loss if they had stuck with TL in that game. Trevor Lawrence has been better overall this year, but Kelly has already played a pivotal role in a game between winning and likely losing. To lose your starting job three weeks later would certainly hurt.

This this and this! Totally agreed Chris. Im waiting for this to happen again and bite Clemson hard.

Does anyone know what the Clemson boards are saying ?

My Clemson friend posted on FB "the inevitable has happened" or something along those lines

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How different do you perceive playcalling for Bryant this year as opposed to last season? I admit to not having watched as much Clemson football this year, but from what I could tell, the "dirty work" this year seems to be exactly how Bryant played all last year. But that's just how I see it from here.

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We don't love dem Hoos.

Counterpoint, being spooked as a true freshman in your first big game is an important learning experience and maybe he has grown from then. Kelly came in and won the game, Trevor grew as a player, and Clemson comes out the better as a team.

Trevor taking over was inevitable. He is one if the most hyped QB recruit in the past 20 years.

I agree with all of this, but from Kelly's perspective it all makes sense as to why he would feel like he wasn't given a fair shot or even a little bit taken advantage of. He saved the team's ass when they needed it so TL could have his growing experience, but now TL is the guy.

I think we all reasonably expected for Trevor to end up the starting QB at some point this season, but that doesn't mean that Kelly doesn't feel hurt about it, or feel like he didn't get the fairest of shakes.

Agreed. I dont blame him for being upset. This is a pivotal moment in his life and he was thousands of people across the country telling him how he should feel. Shit sucks. Hopefully he takes some time to think about his experiences and weigh out his options moving forward in order to do what's best for himself.

This is calculated risk. (Get ready for me to make up some numbers!)

9 times out of ten Trevor doesn't get injured - season goes well.

7 times out of ten Trevor doesn't have a freshman moment at some point in the season and need someone else to step in and help out.

So that means that 63% (edit : math while driving is hard) of the time everything works out great and no problems, but for what? A moderate gain in quarterback play? Whats the downside? A lost game when it counts? A series of lost games?

This is all wildly bullshit math I made up but I hope it demonstrates my line of thinking. Probabilistic outcomes - I think the risk (possible downside) doesn't pay for the reward.

But then again I'm not a coach getting paid millions so what does my opinion matter haha

so what you're saying is that 63% of the time it works out every time

edited to reflect your math update

Chem PhD '16

Would you take a 63% chance to have a 50:50 shot at beating Bama in the play off vs 0 chance, if you don't give TL all the reps that he can take?

From there, it's simply a matter of would you withhold your plan to play TL all of the snaps that you can give him, just to have a safety net if the 37% happens (given the state of the ACC, I'd say that 37% is more like 10%, since they simply won't have an ACC game where they would need KB to step in, unless TL gets injured and even then, their remaining QB's could prob handle the load, if TL's injury isn't season ending).

Wtf man, are you posting to TKP while driving?

Red light. I'm the worst

Well, that's better I guess.

Hummm.....

I'm hoping he leaves the conference and has a great year. Preferably with somebody we don't play.

Good for him on doing what's best for him.

i think dabo is preparing for the playoff. he probably knows lawrence gives them a better chance of beating alabama than bryant does, but he needs all the experience he can get before that game.

he may also be looking at a couple teams last year, and realizing they made mistakes in not starting younger qb's. ohio state probably would've been better last year if they had played haskins. it is also obvious that alabama should've been playing tua all year. i find it interesting that two of the best coaches in college football kept more talented qb's on the bench for so long.

Don't agree with the the title edit. It was pretty accurate originally. He was Jelly, and that's why he's leaving.

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Doesn't this leave Dabo with only 1 scholarship QB on the roster (Lawrence)?

Take the shortest route to the ball and arrive in bad humor.

2, Chase Brice r(fr).

Thanks, didn't know this. I knew they had other transfers, though.

Take the shortest route to the ball and arrive in bad humor.

Yes, well, 2, but they have lost 4 scholarship QB's since January.

I readily equate this to Jalen Hurts and Tua situation. The younger QB is the better passer and can lead the offense to new heights. The experienced QB is an athlete and can manage the offense but the higher ceiling in both situations is with the younger QB. Dabo needed to make the move to have a shot at a NC with how good Bama is this year

I think that Hurts needs to transfer too. His goal is the NFL. He won't make it there, riding the pine at Bama. He needs to choose wisely, though to get the best passing coaching that he can get.

Apparently he is making a ton of progress with Bama's staff this season. Additionally, he graduates in December, so his choice to redshirt or not (it seems he will not redshirt) is only the difference between 2 years of immediate eligibility or 1 year of immediate eligibility.

Thinking in terms of his best interest, it's not smart for him to burn this year. One year of good play elsewhere won't change impressions. In addition, it may take him more than a year to make real improvements as a passer. Bama's OC & QB coach aren't exactly QB developers.

One year at Wisconsin worked wonders for Russell Wilson.

Wilson didn't have a rep of not being a good passer. He was going to get drafted if he'd stayed at NCSU. The coach at NCSU wanted him to quit baseball or he would be 2nd string. Otherwise, Wilson wouldn't have gone to Wiscy.

They screwed that one up for sure. Now Oklahoma is handling a similar situation with Kyler Murray a lot better.

This seems like a great (though risky) move on Clemson's part. Think of the recruiting angle: they can point to this as an example that they will play the best kid, age doesn't matter, which is exactly what every 4 and five star recruit wants to hear. In reference to Bryant, they can also point to how they look out for their kids and treat them honestly and will do what's best for the kid, even if it's risky for the team.

As for their team, Clemson has NC hopes. Bryant wasn't able to win it last year, so now they can give their talented freshman with a different skill set a whole season to work our any kinks against a soft ACC schedule to prepare for the playoff. Obviously, it's risky if Lawrence get's hurt, but I can see how this would be the best option in the coaches eyes to win a championship.

For the longest time reading this I was thinking it was the younger guy leaving. Oh well.

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I say we dress him up as Josh Jackson and trot him out there for the rest of the season. Just make sure he never takes his helmet off. If anyone asks about the injury, just say our new med school has made great strides in the field of medical sciences, especially recovery and rehabilitation.

Probably the reaction Dabo had when he knew Trevor Lawrence gave them a better chance to win the national championship.

It was just a matter of when, not if...

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That's a tough line, but someone posted the full transcript of this on r/cfb earlier and it's nowhere near this harsh. This is classic Barstool antics.

Regardless, that's the message that is going to make the rounds.

As far as I'm concerned, anything to make croots think twice about Clemson is alright by me

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Eh I am guessing you haven't taken the time to dive into what Barstool Sports does and stands for. It's easy to post some article that has been written 100 times before.

While the website certainly isn't for everyone it is far from trash.

What Barstool sports "stands for?" Being misogynistic? Having their comment sections full of people saying some of the worst things I've ever read in my life about Samantha Ponder? Becoming some weird bastion of hate towards ESPN where they are essentially the same as the people who scream "FAKE NEWS" at everything?

I'll pass on whatever being a "Stoolie" is all about.

That is perfectly acceptable. I have never read the comment section nor posted there. I am guessing it represents I don't know .00001% of the users?

I'll go on there for no so much the articles but the comments under each article they write. Some of their comments are funny as hell.

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what Barstool Sports does and stands for

I lol'd. What does it possibly stand for? It's like middle schoolers formed a cult club about sports.

I followed Nate for DC sports stuff for a while and anytime Barstool got into a petty fight with whoever "el presidente" had beef with at the time, it was just so overly dramatic and annoying.

I guess raising millions of dollars for 100's of charities ins't consider standing for something. I don't know. Maybe they don't. I agree there is a childish side and weird soap opera going on up there. I listen to the PMT podcast. I find it refreshing to listen to genuine and original minds with the freedom to take their podcast wherever they please. I am tired of listening to stuffy sports reporters regurgitate the same shit every single week.

Like I have already said the website is not for everyone and a lot of isn't even for me but thats the beauty of the website. I can choose what I want to listen/read. I find satire comedy to be hilarious and am able to see jokes where others would rather get in internet uproar over something clearly intended to be funny and in context is.

It's like middle schoolers formed a cult club about sports.

And never matured a day since

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Pardon My Take is a quality podcast and consistently the top ranked sports podcast. Think its a little extreme to label it for middle schoolers or people who haven't grown up. Especially considering if someone wanted to come on here and judge us based on our 200 comment rant on the pros/cons of mayonnaise or literally the immature back and forth we just had in dcwilson40's thread, it be pretty easy to call us middle schoolers.

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I don't think popularity is really a measure of quality. Also, I don't mean middle schoolers in a kind or funny way like poop jokes. I mean it in a lack of mental maturity kind of way. They are a cult for "bros" who haven't matured. Here's a couple of examples.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/22/barstool-sports-rape-joke-_n_1...

"Even though I never condone rape if you're a size 6 and you're wearing skinny jeans you kind of deserve to be raped right?"

https://web.archive.org/web/20140221174213/http://www.tnhonline.com/edit...

"we don't condone rape of any kind at our Blackout Parties ... however if a chick passes out that's a gray area"

And I don't even really need to mention the way "stoolies" treated Sam Ponder.

Have you ever actually listened to pardon my take? I'm not going to defend the site as a whole, but you'd struggle to find someone who's listened to that podcast that would say that podcast isn't good. The site as a whole has it's flaws and things I really don't like so no argument on that. The Sam Ponder thing was handled terribly by both sides. They said awful things and she blatantly lied on social media about what they said.

Bud/Wiles 2020

No I haven't listened to it, and I don't really plan to. It could be great for all I know, but it's still a small part of a whole that I have huge issues with.

THIS times 100

I think PFT Commenter and PMT are really funny, but I can't support them because that means I'm also supporting Barstool, which is run by a sociopath misogynist.

And you're free to feel that way. And i'm free to listen to and to support PFT and Big Cat and a hilarious podcast that makes my day better.

Edit: The company is actually ran by a female CEO. Just saying.

Bud/Wiles 2020

Edit: The company is actually ran by a female CEO. Just saying.

This always comes out in defense of Barstool eventually. It's not so different from saying you can't be racist because you have a black friend.

Regardless, the toxic culture was created and has long been perpetuated by Dave Portnoy, or "El Presidente," who is the founder of Barstool. Hiring a female CEO doesn't undo all of that.

Unless said female CEO does actually undo the culture. Which (a) I still don't like what I see coming out of there, and (b) probably won't happen because they don't want to lose the viewership/readership/listenership that the existing culture "earned" for them.

Just saying who runs the company. If you refer to my previous 3 comments, you see I agree on the toxic culture. Didn't need the lecture but thanks.

Bud/Wiles 2020

Not entirely sure what "lecture" you're talking about, but you're welcome?

More so directed at Chris for the black friend analogy haha my bad hit reply on the wrong one

Bud/Wiles 2020

PMT is a lone beacon in a swamp of feces

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

I love barstool. It's hilarious and refreshing.

Recruit Prosim

Hilarious? At times, absolutely. Refreshing? Yeah...no.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

lol.

Idk i listen to ESPN radio about 90 min per day and watch a decent amount at home. It's become like network news where they just repeat the same talking points on different shows and most people are take the same positions on issues.

Recruit Prosim

Welp. I guess next time I'll find a different tweet about the same story to embed.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Bryant is taking a visit to UNCheat this weekend.

ESPN Article

Doesn't he have to sit out two years if he transfers to an ACC school?

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

He's graduating before next season so he'll be a grad transfer. He can transfer anywhere that will take him

"That move was slicker than a peeled onion in a bowl of snot." -Mike Burnop

Wow, I did NOT think Bryant was a senior.

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

Yep. The only reason he's even able to transfer at all is because he's able to redshirt this season after playing in 4 games, and then transfer somewhere else with one year of eligibility remaining.

Not if he is a graduate transfer I believe. As a grad student, he can play anywhere, immediately.

Edit: drink for me!

VTCC '86 Delta Company, Hokie in Peru, TKPC#490, One of us!

They promised him a doctorate just for visiting.

"We judge ourselves by our intentions and others by their behavior" Stephen M.R. Covey

“When life knocks you down plan to land on your back, because if you can look up, you can get up, if you fall flat on your face it can kill your spirit” David Wilson

Any chance he took the trip to look at Tech and not UNC? After all who would want to transfer to a school not knowing who the coach will be next year.

I would too. Did you see who they are playing?

Lol when he sees how abused their QBs get he'll decide not to f--- with unc

If a tree falls in Scott Stadium does it make a sound?

Listening the radio in Upstate SC yesterday, they said he is also visiting Louisville, Arkansas, and Missouri. They favored UNC though because they think he wants to be somewhere his family can see him play.