Operation Varsity Blues: Rich people bribing their kids way into colleges

This case has everything: cheating on entrance exams, faking athlete profiles, and aunt Becky

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Documents unsealed Tuesday in federal court showed coaches at schools including Wake Forest University, Georgetown and the University of Southern California were charged as part of the scheme, in which coaches were bribed to admit students as athletes regardless of their ability, according to The Associated Press.

good tweet thread here

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Texas and USC both involved?

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Time to open up pro sports to any age that owners are stupid enough to pay, and get the underground money out of college sports. And yes, if that also means dialing back some of these ridiculous coaches salaries, so be it.

I see what you're saying, but i'm not sure much of that applies here with what we know as of now. Seems that this is super rich people paying bribes to get their dumb kids into colleges on bogus or undeserved athletic scholarships admission standards

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These kids aren't pro athletes they aren't college level athletes hell most of them aren't even Rec team athletes, it was all made up.

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These are more the cases of coaches that do not have ridiculous salaries, which made them susceptible to taking bribes to have completely unqualified "athletes" take up allowed spots.

Did these "athletes" take a scholarship?
It seems like the parents could bribe a coach to allow admittance @ lower standards and then pay tuition as a student athlete.

It does not appear that they were given any scholarships. The guy at the center of this would create fake athletic profiles that were good enough to be a player at whatever sport was in question but not so good that when they bowed out, faked an injury or played minimal time it was not surprising. Regardless of scholarship, there are still roster limits that meant other kids that dreamed of playing the sport may have been excluded at these kids expense.

They were never on the team at all. It was solely a ploy to have lower admission standards applied because they were athletic recruits. Parents funneled money through this guy to a coach who then agreed to designate their kid as a recruit. Kid then had lower admission standards applied to their application, thus getting admitted. Parents and kid are happy because they got in. Scam guy and coach are happy because they got some extra cash in their pocket. There are a limited number of applicants they can designate for the lower athlete admission standard, so in theory there may have been an actual athlete who needed it that help and couldn't get in. Then again, I'm sure there are plenty of people who would be upset even knowing this is a "thing" of having a lower standard for athletes.

In the press conference today, the FBI agent did say that some of these students did participate in their sports but played sparingly. Others once in faked injuries and then others did not play at all.

Why did you say these words and how does it apply here?

ANOTHER UNC cheating scandal?

Man I get here late and instantly think of UNC but you beat me to the punch!

Lol they named it Operation Varsity Blues

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

Why the hell would these parents even bother to do this when their kids are already going to have outstanding networking and financial advantages because of who they are? Just send them to some private school with a high acceptance rate because of its low application numbers due to high tuition.

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Because they probably didn't see anything wrong with it until the FBI showed up. I will spend my boatloads of money to let me kid go wherever they really want even if they aren't qualified.

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Ugly kids deserve an education too!

In fact, they probably need it more.

Stanford Sailing Coach to plead guilty as well. Does this take them out of the running for the Director's Cup?

38 people arrested so far. 7 more in the process of turning themselves over.

6 people already with agreements in place to plead guilty.

Probably, but check the updated Fulmer Cup standings in a couple of days. Should be a lot of movement.

Does Fulmer cup count coaches? I've never looked for that.

Yes it does.

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Lori Laughlin will always be qualified in my book

real talk though, I've watched a few episodes of fuller house, aunt Becky is still very qualified, so is DJ

Jade is also qualified

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Unfortunately she literally was not

Wow, what the IRS lady just detailed about the Singer guy and his charity scam to help fund this is a doozie. Parents not only funneling the money but then taking tax deductions on it.

The "IRS lady" is Special Agent in Charge of IRS Criminal Investigation

and I would have referred to the FBI guy as FBI guy......Not demeaning her position or level of involvement in the investigation. She obviously is playing a major role or she would not have had a speaking portion of the press conference.

The only issue is IRS lady (or guy) sounds like some paper pusher ready to audit you until you cry because their job and life suck.

FBI Guy (or lady) sounds like a bad ass with a gun who shoots gangsters and drinks old fashioneds. You didn't proper emphasize how bad ass the IRS lady is.

At the risk of wandering down the path towards politics, don't think the IRS isn't armed to the teeth and ready to hunt you down either. Pretty much every department of the federal government has armed goon squads. It's really pretty absurd when you start getting into the details.

Link: Yes, the IRS will hunt you down and shoot you, too.

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Lol... Good to see the author (Robert Wood) doesn't let things like context or intellectual honesty dilute the sensationalism of this thinly veiled promotional piece for Wood LLP. No wonder our media lingers just above congress in public approval ratings.

Oh I am aware of the "goon squads" in the government. It's just when some one talks about an employee from the IRS the image in your mind is a lot different than if they said FBI.

Well unless you are really messed up in the head, or an agent of a non FBI goon squad that thinks your better than the FBI. I might have repeated myself.

Add Northeastern University to the list of those implicated.

Smash cut to Landers Nolley entrance exam issue.

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I was in the car listening to Dan Patrick when this story broke, before any of the details were out...and my immediate reaction was thinking about the Landers Nolley issue

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last chance tomorrow....

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How long before Mizzou gets blamed for this and gets more sanctions from the NCAA? /s

Rich People Think they Can Buy Their Kids into Prestigious Colleges.... News Flash at 11.

Mark me as not surprised at all.

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Yes, but these rich people did a really bad job of it.

Saying it for the people in the back

Having $$$ =/= Intelligent

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As someone who attended a small high school inundated with kids from wealthy families who somehow got into schools they had absolutely no business whatsoever attending....

lets just say I'm shocked to hear about an admissions bribery scandal. And it includes Wake, Yale, and Georgetown? Shocked, I tells ya, shocked.

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I came from a blue collared family. My dad works construction, my mom is a teacher. I went to high school with a bunch of kids that had parents that worked on Wall Street and had so much money I can't even begin to tell you about it. My brother dated a Billionaire's daughter in high school. Yes, Billion with a B. This doesn't surprise me one bit.

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Obligatory response to this entire thread.

In case any of you weren't mad enough already.

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they're not called the University of Spoiled Children for nothing, you know

Just seems like they could have approached USC with this and endowed a building or something, still gotten a legit tax deduction and been able to give their daughter front row access to all the things above that she wanted, without having to worry about that whole school thing.

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Hmmm this didnt get the same response as Cardale Jones...lol

I would venture to guess the Venn diagram overlap of people who knew this girl existed before today and college sports fans is pretty small.

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I went to USC for a graduate school. I think the most defining thing I've seen from the Undergrad students was the t-shirt that read U$C > u¢la. Yes, the shirt had a money sign. They bragged about being richer and more privileged than the less rich and privileged kids 8 miles away in Westwood.

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She really never had to go to school in the first place. She's a social media star and has her own make-up line.

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Yeah I share the same feelings of Maynard James Keenan about LA

I feed off of nightmares

The only way to fix it is to flush it all away...

So, why not just get her an apartment near campus and season tickets? Sounds like a much cheaper, and legal, option.

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What I had read that neither parent went to college so they wanted her to go. However, it does sound like a waste of money because with this girls attitude no way she graduates.

When youre lost out there and your all alone...somebody's waiting to take the test for YOUUUUUU....EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK...

So apparently, only the head coaches knew what was happening, so what would have happened in the fall? When the students just didn't show up for their respective sports? Would the assistant coaches know what was going on? There's no way the head coaches could keep this under wraps when players other coaches think they have recruited just don't show up for their sport, or drop off the team
Edit: OK so after doing research, it seems like kids would just quit the team, ignore this

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I suspect that it is common for students who were recruited for lower tier non-revenue sports to decide to "play school" instead of sport after experiencing a month or two on campus.

They said that many of the students "developed a long term injury" which required leaving the sport but not the school. If you can fake a sports profile, I am certain they could get a fake doctors note too.

I know there is a certain level of sorcery in the admissions process. But, for a regular student, what are the drop dead minimum scores to qualify at a school like VT?

"with all due respect, and remember I’m sayin’ it with all due respect, that idea ain’t worth a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin gettin’ it on" - Ricky Bobby

Like SATs? Few years back, anything below a 500 per one section was DOA. 1100 was the lower end of what we would reasonably accept from a student who was really doing their work in the class room, mostly As, a few Bs, Honors and AP classes. Engineering was typically looking 600+ (math) with very challenging math & physics, 650+ (math) with decent rigor in math & physics.

There's dozens of other things though where weekly meeting would have 6-8 people looking through essays, activities, disciplinary histories, are they in state vs out of state (out of state was easier in my time), a major of need (College of Ag & visual/performing art programs were typically of greater need than a biology or psychology), and tons of other things.

I honestly mean this, there is no drop dead minimum. It would require a counselor or director to fight like hell if a student was very low, and success rates were very low, but the scores I saw from some of our football athletes were abysmal. They were accepted because Frank and Whit came in and made a case.

Also, the idea of "Taking a seat from someone else" is complete horseshit. Students apply to so many schools now, colleges and universities have to use a crystal ball to predict yield rates. If a student is on that border line, they are getting a seat. Or bare minimum, they are on the waitlist. There isn't a total number to accept.

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In 2002 I had a 550 in math and got into engineering. Bare minimum. I felt really fortunate. I was also early decision. Not sure how that played into it.

ED helps. Guarantees a student that is borderline but you know you get a kid and there is almost no chance for scholarship. You're what is called a full pay student (most likely, just assumptions, apologies if wrong). 2002 was also a different time for Tech. That 550 is more like a modern 600 with changes to the SAT.

The SAT is incredibly murky if you aren't in the admissions world. Hell, I was one of the first classes to take the 2400 SAT. That means, in my life time, I've seen three wildly different iterations of SAT scoring.

Remember being told not to guess if you couldn't eliminate options because you lost points for incorrect answers? That's gone. Guess away with no penalty. You likely could have scored a fair bit higher. There is also a fairly hefty curve that can be applied to students that hurts top end students but makes more students look like 500-600 scorers that previously would not be.

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The new SAT scoring curve is bizarre. My son took it twice last year. The second time on one section he got more total answers correct than the first test but got a lower score on that section than the first.

I'm assuming that you are talking about the Math section in particular? There was a big stir earlier when an exam would score a 1600 with 3 or 4 missed answers. The next test a month later, 1 missed answer was a 1580.

The whole testing industry is under massive fire.

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In 2013, I had a 610 in Math and got deferred from early decision from engineering and then got into university studies (2nd choice) on the regular time. Did a summer school program and did well enough to get me into Engineering. Average Math SAT was around 700 for engineering I want to say.

So if there is no minimum, why would the schools go through the fake athletic position thing to get them through the door? I mean, if the check was already cashed, why would they need any other "cover"?

Disclaimer: I'm not supporting pay for acceptance in any way, I'm just trying to understand why the school would need to do anything other than putting a check mark on the application if they really wanted to.

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Because the overall admin doesn't care that someone with deep pockets wants to go to their school. Especially if they wouldn't normally qualify. So they have to take the circuitous route to get in.

Let's say that Yale could be bought. Well, everyone with $400k could be accepted. That would water down the value of their education, and mean that students that would make it on merit wouldn't get in. So they have to fake the athletic route approach because those teams don't always fill up with kids that can afford the tuition and meet the requirements. So the requirements are lowered to fill the team.

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A bit of what Nerf said above. You can't post a price. Everyone would line up. This absolutely does happen though. High profile student and parents with deep pockets? That kid will be treated rather well in the admissions process. Additionally, for statistical reporting purposes, athletes are typically not considered in calculations.

Many university systems have rules that up to 10-15% of their population can be admitted outside of normal admissions criteria. This portion isn't included in official statistics for the incoming class like GPA/SAT/ACT. Public schools in particular report their GPA and if there were a ton of out of the standard deviation students popping up and they all turned out to be students with rich parents, the school is admitting they are buyable.

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You'd think it would be as simple as saying "My mom is Felicity Huffman, and I grew up a spoiled rich kid in Hollywood,", but I'm guessing that the admissions office doesn't view that sort of thing kindly, so they have to be a little sneakier about it.

Let me make an, possibly unpopular, argument: The only reason this is a scandal is because the money being paid didn't go to the school.

While it is true that I believe VT is on the up and up, if someone is willing to drop, lets say, $20M on a building for VT. Their kid is pretty borderline academically, but, the family has been tremendously generous and improved the lives of hundreds or thousands of Hokies through their work. I say admit that student on the condition that he is academically treated like any other student while at VT.

It's also an issue that these are all highly selective academic schools. No one would give a shit if this happened at Hood College in Maryland if someone backed up a dump truck of money and Johnny happened to get in with straight D's in high school. It's because people are buying their way in behind shady processes like the SAT/ACT which are already economically biased.

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Yeah, when the FBI and IRS are involved, it turns into a scandal. This was more than rich people doing rich people things.

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Bingo. DOJ already said that no college admissions offices were involved. If you do this via a donation or endowment, there is likely no story at all here.

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Sort of for the same reason it's OK to donate money to a political campaign, but not OK to bribe a public official for a specific piece of legislation.

There is a difference, even if it's nuanced. One we don't like and roll our eyes at. The other, we'll put someone in jail for.

It is my understanding that the tennis coach at the University of Rhode Island was involved. Also known as the party school of New England. I was accepted to URI because I went to high school in Rhode Island, I never applied but was accepted. So I am not sure how highly selective all of these schools were.

Like you if the parents had paid big bucks to get their kid in and they were treated like everybody else I wouldn't care. But these are parents that paid money to a fake charity to grease the wheels and then deducted it on their taxes. They deserve the heck about to fall on them.

So I am not sure how highly selective all of these schools were.

You did read Stanford, Yale, and Georgetown were involved, right?

Also known as the party school of New England. I was accepted to URI...I never applied but was accepted.

Impressive resume in the partying category in high school?

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Oh a lot of them are highly selective. Just not ALL.

As for the partying, not really, I was a nerd. Hence why I was choosing between Syracuse, Cornell, and VT for engineering. Of which only one is actually affordable without massive loans even in the 90's.

So if there is no minimum

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I thought "Operation Varsity Blues" was just a witty thread title. Had zero idea it was the actual FBI title. America's the best.

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I'm sure all parties involved will receive a minor slap on the wrist and life will continue for the wealth off. SMFH!

If they are sentenced like the first group from the Adidas bribing students to play basketball case than not even sure you could call it a slap. Get a sentence 1/15th what the government was asking for, one even smaller than your lawyers were asking for, as in months, and get to pick where you serve your time so you can research CLUB FED and figure out where best to vacation for a few months on the governments money and that's if they even serve that since they still have appeals and its been said the prison authority might just assign them home arrest because the sentences are so short.

It must be cheaper to bribe coaches for fake athletic recruit status than write a big check to the college's endowment fund. I thought it was common knowledge that plenty of dumb-but-rich kids got into top tier schools because a) legacy status b) parental donations to the college

This happened with one of our recent presidents..

Hmmmm

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Apparently Jared Kushner already had it come out previously that his parents donated millions to Harvard and NYU to ensure his acceptance.

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I'm just going to leave this here...

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Top of Page Headline story on CNN.com. Barely a bullet point on ESPN.com.

Not sure what your point is. This is definitely more of a "news" story than it is a "sports" story.

Except for the coaches who are charged, will be fired, have show cause from ncaa.

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While this is true, the College Sports page on ESPN is about the 28th most visited page on ESPN and almost every sport mentioned so far would fall under that page so when compared to NFL Free Agency, MLB Spring Training, March Madness for both men and women, and even just the everyday hum drum of NBA Soccer and Hockey, not really surprising that its barely a blurb on there.

You're also forgetting something basic, ESPN is about entertainment not news.

this is very interesting, but not shocking at all. Even more so that spoiled kids who put no effort in had rich parents buy their way in. Though it shows how stupid the parents are.

But this shit happens every damn day here. local schools cost nothing but if you want to get into the "good" schools you need to know the leadership and willing to pay big money. And I'm not talking about just college, this shit starts at kindergarten. otherwise, if your kid is international, you send your kid to an international school which is the cost of college tuition in USA every year. So either way you pay shitloads of money to get your kid a good education here.

Though the top 2% of local students always rise to top schools, otherwise it's a crap shoot for kids unless their parents find a way to pay money to the right administrator.

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Didn't Jodie Sweetin get busted for like a shit ton of meth?

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Who hasn't

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Most people know her as Aunt Becky but she'll always be Christian Hollings to me. I'm surprised no one has gone with the prophetic: "Send me an angel"

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Also, it's funny when you realize the movie is about a kid who skips the SATs to pursue his athletic dreams. Does USC have a BMX team?

I'm here for the memes, I just stay for the football.

I haven't watched this movie in like 25 years. I need to find it somewhere. Absolutely one of my favorites when I was a kid.

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I'm here for the memes, I just stay for the football.

There was a girl who went to another school in my county. Her mother was a guidance counselor at that school, so she had the ability to see (and change) students' grades. The mother changed her daughter's grades so she would a) get accepted into more prestigious universities and b) receive more scholarships. They determined she changed 34 grades which led to her daughter potentially receiving an additional $20,000 in aid. She plead guilty and is facing 20 years in prison, a $250,000 fine, and 3 years of supervised release.

The high school the girl attended doesn't even have 400 students, and she ended up going to a D2 school in West Virginia, not USC. If they follow the same protocol, this could be a very big deal for those involved. We'll see how loud money talks.

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Martha Stewart is a guidance counselor? So that's what happened to her...this is more time do with getting busted for something dumb that costs a lot more than if you just let the situation play itself out

It's funny because Martha Stewart actually was imprisoned at the women's prison in my county. It wasn't Martha, though.

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My orthopedic surgeons wife went to the same prison. PS dont commit tax fraud.

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VanDerBeek with the shameless self promotion, and I love it.

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Van Der Beek killed it

Okay, I'll bite. I don't get the JvdB one.

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"with all due respect, and remember I’m sayin’ it with all due respect, that idea ain’t worth a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin gettin’ it on" - Ricky Bobby

They couldn't just bribe their kids' way into the school of their choice the normal way, just by making large donations?

So how many more school officials will have to resign even if they aren't charged? Looking like this goes into the AD's offices at some schools.

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Reminds me of the movie Orange County, where the main character gets rejected by Stanford, and his brother played by Jack Black, burns down a building at Stanford so his dad can donate a building, so the kids can be with his favorite author?

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RICH PEOPLE BRIBING THEIR KIDS WAY INTO COLLEGES

Not that i don't disagree that bribing is bad, but large "donors" who give back to their college also - somehow magically - also get their child who barely graduates their high school to go to their parents alma mater. And i'm not just talking about Yale and USC; happens at VT too.

So I guess I'm not surprised that rich people somehow "pay" their way into any school they want their children to go to.

yes of course, but if you donate money for a building to the university directly and have them elect on their own to allow your kid in it's legal. If you commit tax fraud to donate to a charity that falsifies information, helps you cheat on entrance exams, creates bogus athletic profiles in collusion with coaches that get paid off and then claim said donation as a tax deduction it is definitely not legal.

Sadly, all taxpayers were subsidizing the scheme, as the charitable contribution was tax deductible, and those Hollywood types are definitely in the top tax bracket.

have them elect on their own to allow your kid in

hmmmm....something is incredibly suspicious there though. That's not how it really works out though.

If you're a donor to the university (and I mean, a substantial one), then you're paying for access / pay for play. Think about how many donors do this exact same model with the AD and the football program? They pay a ton of money and then expect the AD and FB coach to bend over backwards to them else they're going to stop sending in the checks (eg: FSU with Jimbo or anything else in more recent memory).

My larger point is legal avenue vs not - the rich can still throw money at an institution (one way or another) and get away with something that the general public can't, so this whole "scandal" isn't really a scandal by my view. Just another avenue for the uber wealthy to continue to get their own perks.

The scandal was in 1) having someone else take the kid's SATs, or changing answers, and 2) paying an individual to manipulate some factors to get the kid in, and 3) making it a charitable tax deduction, so the parents could get a tax deduction for it.

And by people who are publicly and politically active for the cause of equality.

Yes, this qualifies as a scandal.

I'm not sure if you missed my post or not, so i'll say summarize it for you again:

1. There are multiple avenues for rich ppl to pay their way into schools
2. This represents just another avenue - legal or not
3. I'm not shocked or outraged by it - it's par for the course for rich ppl to have different standards than those who don't have that kind of money.

If you'd like to nit-pick on why I don't really think this is a scandal then go ahead, but you're missing the larger point - which, for the 2nd time in this post - is that rich ppl can pay their way where most of us can't.

I get your point. I too am neither shocked nor outraged by this. I understand the legalities of it and why the FBI shut it down but it barely moves the needle for me in terms of what I am concerned about.

I didn't mean to nit-pick, I was just pointing out that the reason it's a scandal is because the law was broken.

The reason it's on the front page is because high-profile universities and celebrities were involved.

I guess the only reason it's shocking is that most of us probably just assumed it was easy for rich celebrities to pull strings at prestigious colleges. Maybe it's not as easy as we thought.

And the reason it's important is that you have some fairly politically active folks in Hollywood who like to dictate morals looking not-so-ethical themselves.

I get why people are cynical about the world. There is much to be cynical about. But we should insist on standards where we can, which is why I applaud these investigations by the FBI. While it's true that the rich do garner many advantages for themselves, their families, and their offspring, we as a society do occasionally get some say in the form of laws and public condemnation, and that's a good thing.

It's the same as it always was, though. The privileged want to keep that privilege for their offspring, even as they talk a good game. "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."

I get why people are cynical about the world. There is much to be cynical about. But we should insist on standards where we can, which is why I applaud these investigations by the FBI. While it's true that the rich do garner many advantages for themselves, their families, and their offspring, we as a society do occasionally get some say in the form of laws and public condemnation, and that's a good thing.

Agree completely.

A lot in that situation are legacies and following in footsteps to the same university. Not trying to get into Stanford, Yale, Georgetown which is probably on a completely different level.

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Same college or not - I guess my point is that the rich can pay money to get a kid in to a school that they may not qualify / academically (or otherwise) deserve to get in to. The version in the news may be illegal, but there are more "legal" ways. It just stinks that the rich can throw money at whatever they want and get away with having their dumb kid in the college.

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In a separate case yesterday, former Penn head basketball coach Jerome Allen, now an assistant with the Celtics, plead guilty to accepting over $300K from a businessman, Phillip Esformes, from Florida for getting the businessman's son into Penn on one of the priority basketball slots. They got caught because the FBI was investigating Medicaid and Medicare fraud and the businessman was a suspect. In his testimony, he also implicated assistant coach Ira Bowman, now an assistant at Auburn under Bruce Pearl.

SInger should have made a better pitch to the cast of "Arrested Development".

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Is that velvet or suede? Man you look like a million bucks!

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Ricky couldn't run fast enough in the end 😔

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Uh oh.

Maybe there was more to Nolley's issue...

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Could he have been there just to watch the entire slate of the ACC Tournament Games?

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Maybe, but he and Buzz are pretty close. He was in the locker room post-game. VT gets referenced a couple of times in this article. Fox has relationships with tons of basketball coaches, including Buzz.

https://sports.yahoo.com/a-whole-new-world-of-corruption-how-houston-mid...

Fox sat behind Virginia Tech's bench for the Hokies' final regular-season game with Miami in Blacksburg, Virginia, on Friday night. Virginia Tech's Buzz Williams is one of many college coaches close to Fox and told the story Wednesday night that when he introduced his son to Fox, his son asked, "'What does he do, is he a coach?'" Williams said, "I'd say no. He's in the middle of everything." He added, "I didn't know he was in the middle of that," referencing the federal trouble.

Article includes another great Buzz-style quote a bit further down.

"He was in the middle of everything," said Buzz Williams, who stressed he wasn't nervous about his ties to Fox and didn't know of Fox's arrest until a Yahoo Sports reporter told him at the ACC tournament Wednesday evening. "I think that's not speaking negatively toward him or the people he knows. Everyone knows Fox. It's not because of one particular thing. It's just all of those things."

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Anyone who flipped through Fox's Twitter account Tuesday afternoon witnessed a muscle flex of sporting vanity. There was Fox mugging with Magic Johnson, Kobe Bryant and Johnny Bench in separate pictures. There were scenes from Virginia Tech's postgame basketball locker room, practice at Kansas' Allen Fieldhouse and an up-close shot of Duke's Winslow cutting down nets. There was a picture with De'Aaron Fox and his family minutes after he committed to Kentucky live on ESPNU in November 2015. Fox is in nearly every picture, happy to position himself at events like the Super Bowl and with boldfaced names from around the sports world.

Note how he said Friday

The fixer was behind our bench in Cassell for Senior Night

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That's an observation, not great journalism. But it would be troubling if there were more to the story.

The article itself is great journalism.

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OK, I gotcha. This Varsity Blues article.

The day someone gets indicted is the wrong time to show up on someone's Twitter account...

You got it!

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The torch; be yours to hold it high.
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