5 Dangerous Teams No One is Talking About

Spoiler Alert. One team is from the ACC.

I found it encouraging and wanted to share.

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Spoiler Alert. One team is from the ACC.

i'll betcha it's syracuse just because they beat clemson that one time

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I bet it's da U...cause they bak!

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Never I thought I'd be reading this.

There's no Clemson or Syracuse to face

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

I would be fine if we never played Syracuse again...especially in the Carrier Dome...even for Michael Vick's last year in 2000, he had to make an amazing run to seal the deal in the final minutes.

VT will never win in the carrier dome again. Mark that down. It's cursed. We will never beat Louisville again in hoops, either.

Never is a long time..but with Babers there, its going to be a tough out wherever we play them...I think we'll beat Louisville in Bball before we win at the Carrier Dome though..

The numbers bear that out since we'll get at least 10 more cracks at Louisville in basketball before we play Syracuse in the Carrier Dome again.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Babers will be gone by then. Too good of a coach, will move to better opportunity.

Heard some pundit mention Babers for other bigger time openings.....not to wish bad luck on them (karma is hell), but the 'Cuse might go back to mediocre if he leaves.

Or Florida State in basketball. Somehow some way, those mfs always find a way to play the game of their lives against us. If they played us every game, they'd lead the country in field goal percentage and go 38-0 or whatever it takes to win every regular season game, every conference tournament game, and every NCAA tournament game.

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Maybe now that we recruit people taller 6'7". They always seem to have 3 7 footers. Agree that they shoot lights out every time

No kidding-that miracle comeback they had against us in the ACC Tournament was the icing on the cake for me. They are our bogey team. That said, we'll probably beat them this year because I'm that bad at predictions.

This just shows how weak the ACC has been in the last few years. Cuse had a good year last year with a pretty good senior QB, but that doesnt mean they'll have a good year this year, they haven't built a a long term program yet, so they could be 6-6.

I'm kind of tired of hearing that key parts have left. Kumah was a producer last year, but are any of the transfers all that damaging to this season? Jackson was a decent player, but he didn't want to compete for the starting job...he thought it was his. Willis also has more talent than JJ.

I think Kumah was our best jumpball receiver. Turner and Hazelton are both good at positioning themselves to catch the ball, but Kumah was strong and could outmuscle a DB in the air. Kumah wasn't that fast or a good route runner, though, and I'd rather have those traits in a receiver than one who can just catch jumpballs.

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I was watching some old games recently and Kumah kinda reminded me of DJ Coles...definitely not something you want to go against in an Oklahoma drill

He was. Absolutely. But if there was one position that we could afford to lose a guy, it was WR.

Hoo needs Kumah when you are Keene for jump balls

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Tyrod did it Mikey, Tyrod did it!!

IMO, this narrative is just as tired. We were 6-7 last year. If those young guys are so much better than the transfer guys, we should have played them.

See, this is why people accuse you of trolling, you say negative things with no basis in reality for the sake of argument.
Transfers:
Cunningham - outplayed by Keene, "young guy" Mitchell got plenty of snaps
Jackson - Willis played in his stead, did enough to make it a competition
Kumah - outplayed by "young guy" Tre
Watts - I can almost see your point on this one, but also, those "young guys" were true freshmen, not that surprising a sophomore Watts was ahead or that the young guys continued to develop past him

No basis in reality? We were 6-7 last year. We have 16 transfers, so why not list them all? Kumah was a key WR for us down the stretch last year, and we needed every yard of his to make a bowl, and since you need more than 1 WR- 6 as a matter of fact according to Cornelson- Tre is not the only young guy that could have pushed Kumah and helped us win. Our offense struggled mightily against good competition last year. No basis in reality? LOL.

Man the goal posts are always moving.

No basis in reality? We were 6-7 last year.

No one is denying that. It's possible for freshman to improve over upperclassmen during the course of a season.

We have 16 transfers, so why not list them all?

If you think losing 4th string guys like Rico Kearney and Samuel Denmark affect our win total then you're either delusional or arguing in terrible faith.

Kumah was a key WR for us down the stretch last year, and we needed every yard of his to make a bowl, and since you need more than 1 WR- 6 as a matter of fact according to Cornelson- Tre is not the only young guy that could have pushed Kumah and helped us win.

Kumah was helpful last year. Most people acknowledge he's probably the only guy we lost that would contribute this year. But by the end of the year Tre was clearly better. That's what freshmen do, they improve. Its reasonable that Mitchell wasnt as good as Kumah last year, but will be better this year. There is a reason Kumah is at ODU.

Kearney was not 4th string.

Kearney also was one of the few defenders last year that could put a ball carrier on the ground. He may have been under sized, but he could tackle. He filled in well on a few games

If you think losing 4th string guys like Rico Kearney...

I'm good with much of your post, but come on with this. Rico was one of our most solid LBs last year when he was given the opportunity.

I understand exactly what you're saying, and the difference in points of view is that one is backward facing and the other is forward facing -- the question to ask for 2019-20 (note the emphasis) is "can those young guys be better for us now than the transfer would have been?" rather than "if the young guy is better, why wasn't he playing last year?"

the development curve in the first two years on campus is YUGE. going through new playbook and coaches, adjusting to being away from home (most for the first time) and developing a rhythm of life, and (maybe most importantly) getting time in with S&C to fill out the frame and develop the physical tools further.

I know that you aren't arguing that redshirts are useless, but it's easy to extrapolate your argument out and anticipate that conclusion based on looking backward rather than forward. Looking forward is what scares a lot of people about the 2020 class.

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I dunno if you saw the newest Hilgartification photos of Tre or not, but last year he looked like he had never lifted a weight in his life.

I listed the transfers from this offseason since that's what we're talking about. Players who played last year but won't be on the team this year, as those are the ones that matter when talking about projecting the next season. If there are players I missed feel free to point them out, I guess I did forget Denmark. Secondly, Kumah was absolutely a contributor, and I would certainly like to have him on the team this year, but you asked where the young guys were pushing these transfers for playing time, and I gave an example of a true freshman that did.

Your argument still makes no sense and this response doesn't explain or defend it either. I honestly think you saw an opportunity for negativity so you fired off a response without thinking and now you feel like you have to defend yourself. You don't, we're all friends here, you can have your pessimistic outlook on the program (which is perfectly valid) without having to argue every single point anyone makes.

you want some examples of teams improving? Look no further than our 2009 team into 2010, our wideouts didnt catch a touchdown until week 9 (or 10?) the next year coale and boykin were big names. See louisville in Charlie strongs first year, see memphis in fuentes years. Just because the players struggled their freshman year does not instantly mean theyre all busts. In more recent memory see one kyle fuller not being able to cover his freshman year (he got picked on a TON) or motu being the scapegoat for 3ish years... players improve over time

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

Look no further than our 2009 team in 2010.

You're thinking of 2008 when Coale and Boykin were freshmen. I believe Ike Whitaker was a starting receiver at the beginning and was eventually passed by the younger guys. But yeah, a receiver didn't catch a touchdown pass until the 11th game against Duke. Of all the Stinespring offenses, that was the worst, which is funny because it also happens to be the only Stinespring offense to win a BCS bowl.

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Here is your problem dcwilson40 based on the losses you say are being downplayed and we lost

these guys of a shitty team , we are not going to be any good so we should expect 6-6 type year.

If we win or have a good year or turn it around you will be wrong and will be on record as such.

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That little article was worth reading for this, if nothing else:

Virginia who hasn't beaten the Hokies since the first term of the George W. Bush era

NO POLITICS!!!!

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LOL that ain't politics...

Anyone else really annoyed we let that one slip? I mean 2003 was a dumpster fire of a season (by 2000s tech standards), but if we had only pulled that off, we'd be sitting on 20 straight and we could make jokes about how they haven't won since Monica Lewinski was a household name.

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by 2000 Tech standards

I thought it was pretty standard for what we were doing after Vick left. In 2001, we got into the top 5, then stumbled down the stretch with two close losses to Syracuse and Miami, a horrible loss to Pitt, and a bowl loss to FSU. Then 2002, we got up to #5 before losing three straight all in pretty heartbreaking fashion, then of course Miami. Then 2003 was a train wreck. I'm glad Beamer was able to correct those late season collapses.

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Their win before 2003 was during the Clinton administration, and that was in Blacksburg. Only a few of UVa's seniors were alive when that happened (1998-and that featured an epic collapse by VT in the second half).

For anyone like me looking for the 5, here they are, and my rebuttal.

ACC: Hokies - No one cares because Clemson is assumed to be the champion already. I would have picked Syracuse as a team that, if they catch lightning in a bottle against Clemson, there is nothing stopping them until the ACCCG.

Big 10: Nebraska - No one is talking about them because the Big 10 is stacked. Are they better than OSU, Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin, Northwestern, and Iowa? That conference is crazy strong at the eye look for the preseason.

Big 12: TCU - Maybe I agree? I think you have a clear pecking order of Oklahoma, Texas, Iowa State, Oklahoma State. TCU just seems to be behind the curve and I don't see them challenging for the Big 12.

Pac 12: Washington State - Agreed. I think Washington, Oregon, and Utah are stealing the show out west. I could easily seeing this being USC as well but the PAC 12 plays a lot like the ACC at the moment. There are one or two favorites, and the rest of the conference is likely going to cannibalize themselves. Is there a chance we see a 10-2 or 11-1 team emerge? Yepp. No one has a solid idea of who it would be.

SEC: Missouri - No one is talking about them because they are post season banned and that means you don't talk about Bama, UGA, TAMU, LSU, Florida, or Auburn. Dumb inclusion.

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The article was more of a "who we want to be good" rather than a "who could actually contend"

It's more like "Remember these teams from a few years ago? We haven't let go of our mental anchor."

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I feel like alottt of people are high on Nebraska. Really harping on "finished strong," "talented QB," and "Scott Frost is the second coming of Christ." The last one is paraphrased, but you get it.

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Correct, everyone is talking about them. Missouri is a real good take, heard them come up maybe 1 time this offseason and that was Bud on PAPN.

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Ayeee, just started the latest podcast on my way home this evening. Thanks for putting in the time on that.

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I mean, I watched a bunch of their games last year, and they looked decent most of the time, but kept making huge mistakes that cost them (hmm, that part sounds really familiar...) and were plagued by some really terrible luck early in the year en route to an 0-6 start.

Second half of the season, it was almost like a switch was flipped, starting with a 25-point win over eventual bowl-bound Minnesota. They lost to OSU and Iowa by a combined 8 points, but by the end of the year you could almost say they looked like a competent football team. If they continue on a similar trajectory, they'll be contending for the B1G West by 2020.

*psst* The article picked Minnesota as the surprise B1G team, not Nebraska

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Then the article is right. No one is talking about Minnesota. Critique still stands. Big 10 scary.

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Also going to offer my $0.02, because that's what you do on internet message boards...

Acc - Agree with VT. I think Syracuse is fool's gold this year. Their 3 best games last year (which includes a loss to Clemson) came when their opponent had key contributors injured/sitting out. I'm not confident VT will show great improvement this year, but they have the most potential to be a 'surprise' team.

B10 - I think everyone is talking about Nebraska. I'm a believer in Scott Frost, but I think this rebuild will take another 2 years. For biggest surprise this year, I think there's 4 possibilities: Wiscy (expected to have a down year), Minnesota/Purdue (I believe in their respective coaches), or Northwestern (arguably best QB/Defense combo in B10 West). I also think Michigan has a legit chance (5ish %) at winning the CFP this year, so they too could be a big surprise team.

B12 - I'm not particularly confident in any B12 team outside OU. As far as surprise, I'll go with OKst, in hopes that the new OC from princeton really gels with Mike Gundy's offense.

P12 - Utah was the obvious surprise pick until Whittingham came out and said this was the best Utah DL he's ever seen. That reallyyyy started their hype train. I'll pick USC - I think everyone is assuming USC goes 6-6 and Clay Helton gets fired this year. I could see Graham Herrall effectively installing the air raid, and USC winning 10 games. Similar to Michigan, I also think UW has a legit chance at making/winning the CFP, especially if Jacob Eason is a good fit.
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SEC - Really agree with Mizzou. They'll be an interesting team to follow this year.

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I also think Michigan has a legit chance (5ish %) at winning the CFP this year

I'm going to make a thread when I get back to my place around preseason polls/predictions. I actually think Michigan has a massive trap game in Army week 2.

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I have solid confidence that Harbaugh will screw it up somehow and Michigan will drop at least 2. Including to anOSU, at which point the seat might start to get hot even for a Michigan Man.

It's just a rough schedule. Army, Wisconsin, Iowa, Penn State, Notre Dame, Ohio State. That list has 3-4 playoff hopefuls in it and there aren't enough spots.

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They also make a point of saying VT has scheduled for success this year, which really isn't wrong. We easily could be 6-1 heading into the game against ND, ranked well, and carrying some hype that might not be deserved with a tougher schedule. But hey, that's just how these things happen sometimes.

With that said, whoever faces Clemson in Charlotte is going to get their asses kicked this year.

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With that said, whoever faces Clemson in Charlotte is going to get their asses kicked this year.

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The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Whatever. It was one bad year.

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Whatever. It was one bad year.

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Please please please someone bring a G.W. fathead to Hoo-ville. That would be the greatest and those stupid hoo's wouldn't even get the reference.

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Stupid Hoo's? I don't even get the reference. lol...

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