OT - Coyote Problems

With the exception of being stationed in the middle of Darmstadt in Germany, I have lived in the country my entire life until we bought a house within city limits in 2017. Our property backs up to a large undeveloped property that is abundant with wildlife. The irony is I have seen more wildlife from my back deck with more frequency than I ever did in the the country. I've been thinking about having David Attenborough over to narrate. About the only thing we haven't seen, YET, is a black bear.

And while I love all of that, we have a serious coyote problem. They are loud AF at night, which is annoying. Especially, with three dogs that enjoy joining in on the baying. More concerning, they keep coming closer and closer to our property. The only reason I think they haven't been on our property yet, is that there is a creek that separates the properties. I am worried about interactions with our dogs. My neighbor has small kids and a dog as well and is equally concerned.

I have talked with the city animal warden and neither they nor I can really do anything until they make it onto our property. If they fuck with my dogs, city limits be damned, there will be some rounds thrown downrange. The animal warden told me he would happily write that report up and back me if it came to that, but I'm trying to be proactive and not let it get that far.

The owner of the property on which they roam freely used to let the city do a cull regularly, but they have stopped giving them permission to do so. I'm going to reach out to them and see if they will let the city restart the cull program, or trap, or anything.

Since I can't sit on my deck and pick them off, my question is this, does anyone know of any humane ways to get coyotes to piss off? I'd be happy for any feedback that may help.

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I've been thinking about having David Attenborough over to narrate.

No advice APFOW but that's a great quote.

The hawks are the most fun to watch. There are at least four of them around. They will perch in the trees in my yard and swoop into the field behind us to catch prey.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

There was a hawks nest in a neighbors big oak next door we'd spend hours every day watching them sit and feed the fledglings. One afternoon I watched dad glide through the backyard and snatch a squirrel off a pine silent and smooth. Watching the fledglings learn to fly is a stich they flap thier wings and hop along a branch then fall off and glide to ground for mom to come get them. Hope you get a chance to see a nesting pair

Have you considered a sonic deterrent along the back of your property that you activate at night. Only potential hiccup would be if it is close enough to the house to also agitate your dogs.

Also, I just came across this. Could be helpful: Colorado Parks Coyote Deterrent

What a savings

Thanks. I'll check it out.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

A couple of interesting ideas from this is the slingshot and paintball gun.

Technically, I cannot loose arrows, bbs, pellets, etc. onto another property. I would have to wait until they are on my property to legally go this route, but more and more I think I am going to wind up either getting a wrist-rocket or a quiet bb gun so I can be discreet. If I did fire anything onto the other property, I'd be firing into a hillside. So, I'm not worried about actually causing any damage, just someone hearing/seeing me shooting.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Technically, I cannot loose arrows, bbs, pellets, etc. onto another property.

What if the projectile was biodegradable? Can't prove you shot anything if the evidence disappears.

ice bullets!!!! /s

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just someone hearing/seeing me shooting.

Sounds like you need to ask Santa for a suppressed .22-250. :-)

"Those who jump into the void owe no explanation to those who stand and watch."
--unknown

Supersonic crack will give you away. Better off with a .300 AAC or something else subsonic.

I have a bunch on my 10 acres that are pretty active at night. I hear them a lot, but have never actually seen one. Unfortunately there is nothing you can really do other than thin the pack, which is a tough task considering they breed so rampantly. Make sure you and your dogs are careful outside in the woods after dark.
They are generally too cowardly to come into your yard, but they are very smart and are known to lure dogs into an ambush.

Beat GT

These MFs are ballsy AF and used to humans. They have come out in the broad daylight up to the edge of the creek that separates our properties. I yelled at them and they didn't even acknowledge me. I have only seen them alone when I have seen them though.

One of them is HUGE. He was the first one I saw, all alone in midday. Had I not grown up in VA and were completely ignorant of VA wildlife, I would have sworn he was a wolf when I saw him. Big sumbitch!!!

I was just recently told of the luring thing by someone else. Crazy stuff.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Many of the Coyotes in the Eastern States are actually a cross with the Red Wolf and are larger. They can be intimidating looking.

No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

We don't love dem Hoos.

Well damn, that's interesting.

Wow that's crazy!

Beat GT

I just recently heard of the luring thing too. It was a surprise to me to learn after moving here, that there is a pretty large population of them living on the Outer Banks.

From what I read, a smaller coyote will make itself seen to get the dog (or other prey's) attention, then taking off running, and around a corner, or in hidden in foliage or what not, the rest of the pack will be waiting.

I have not seen any around my yard but living near the Wright Brothers Memorial, I know there are a ton close by, and after reading that, I pretty much quit letting my dog go out in the yard on her own at night. She's big enough that I don't think 1 would mess with her, but I don't want to take a chance on her encountering a pack. We've got a 6 foot privacy fence, but I've read that they can clear a 5-6 foot fence as well.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

FYI - a google search seems to indicate the idea of coyotes purposefully "luring" dogs is a myth. That being said - coyotes tend to be in groups, so if a dog chases one coyote, the other coyotes will join in. So in the end the result is the same - a pack of coyotes versus one dog.

Feel for you, we had a similar situation last year. Hard to sleep with your windows open when you have pets around. Those feeding frenzy's are unnerving. I was pretty serious about getting some NV gear when they moved on.

We have a lot of deer around us and best I can figure they moved down from the national forest hunting fawns. Once this food source moved or dried up they did too.

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.and Whit puts on his batting gloves and steps up to the plate....

We have a ton of deer and there is either a crazy dynamic between the deer and coyotes or the deer around us are the most aloof deer in the world. I have seen about 4-5 does grazing less than 100 yards from a coyote without a care in the world.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Hard to sleep with your windows open

Not really related to coyotes, but it must be nice to have the option to sleep with your windows open in the spring, when you don't have coyotes, that is. The pollening in Raleigh has been so bad this year that I dread going outside. And I know from past years that by the time it's finally over, it will be waaaay too hot to have the windows open.

I'd open my windows here in South Dakota, but we're currently at the tail end of a blizzard and my windows are frozen shut.

Unfortunately shooting them is likely the only thing that you can do to deal with them. There is an overpopulation of them due to the over population of deer in Virginia. The reason that one is that big is that they have crossbred with wolves and that has made them much more aggressive. The county I grew up in had for MANY years a bounty on them. If you killed one and brought its pelt to the courthouse (or somewhere else, I can't remember), you would get $50. My cousin used to go out and hunt them for the money. So my guess is if they keep getting closer and closer to your property or coming after your dogs, you will have to put them down. I seriously doubt anybody would care given how much damage to cattle and house pets that they do.

The only way I would be able to legally fire within city limits is if they were an active threat on my property.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Get a cross bow. Then take them out. LOL.

If I could, this would have already been done.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Does your city permit urban archery?

Ha. You can get permits to hunt deer in the city with bows or shotguns, but ONLY deer.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Thin the deer population -> less food for coyotes -> coyotes move on to more fertile grounds.

Right? Not a hunter but my logic background (if you can call it that) tells me that if you wipe out the food source it wont be a problem any more.

Except the deer population is already greatly reduced (due to coyotes) and coyotes eat a lot more than deer. If they feel safe in an area, they'll eat just about anything available before moving out. That would include rabbits and other small game and as well as garbage and pets.

"looked a hell of a lot like a deer right before I shot him, officer."

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"Officer, The Grinch must've put those antlers on him."

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

"I'm trying to shoot deer, but these goddam coyotes keep getting in the way..."

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Unfortunately I don't think that there's any way to eradicate them. They do pose a threat to yours and your neighbors pets, but I don't think they would attack children unless they were cornered or trapped somehow. There are methods to help control the population - cyanide traps are one method but they are dangerous to dogs and other pets. If you know someone that is a good foothold trapper, this is the best method to thin them out quickly. Snares are effective as well but again pets are going to be collateral damage. Unfortunately, I don't think you're going to sway the population dynamics in a very measurable way by any method.

Another solution may be to fight back and try to scale back on the bravado of them by popping a couple. Get some coyote calls, a good .22 and some Aguila 60 grain subsonic rounds. Buy a cheap red LED light and call them into your backyard and give them some lead sleeping pills. The report of the rifle will sound like a BB gun and I think you're well within your rights to do what you need to in order to protect your property. While you're not going to eradicate them with this method you may at least show them that you are a threat and they need to steer clear of your area. I used to joke with farmers when asking to coyote hunt that I may not kill them all but I can guarantee you'll see less of them based on my hunting luck alone.

Let us know how it works out. They are a super intelligent animal and have hit an ecological nitch that they fill perfectly. We're not going to get rid of them but with some effort you can make them live a bit more on your terms. Good luck and keep us posted.

I've lived in rural CT and MA for the last 25 years and have yet to find a solution up here short of killing them (hard to do in this part of the country for many reasons). The problem is that as they spend more time around people they only get bolder.

The same thing is happening with black bears. I have a mama bear who frequents my back yard with cubs and she'll just give me an annoyed look and continue with her bear business if I shout and stomp my deck to encourage her to leave.

I'll trade you coyotes for bears.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

No you wouldn't. They will be in your yard after your bird feeder food, your trash, your pet's food, and not give a crap about your dog.

I was thinking a bear's indifference vs coyotes trying to lure them into an ambush would be worth the mess of picking up trash all the time.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

But then they'll be in his yard and APFoW could shoot them.

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Or until something like
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happens

Best defense available...

The coyotes luring dogs to an ambush is a myth (though that doesn't mean it has never happened). Coyotes are pack animals and when they go off alone they are rarely too far form the rest of the pack. If a dog chases a coyote it usually tries to tire the dog out and lose interest, but often will return to the nearby pack for safety. It's a defense mechanism, not a hunting tactic. The pack is going to protect their own against an outsider.

This isn't a defense of coyotes, as I am well aware of the nuisance they can be, but maybe to set your mind at ease about them actively trying to lure and hunt your dog into an ambush.

I get what you're saying, but what does it matter if they're luring or just attacking a dog that is chasing one of the pack if the end result is the same?

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

If the end result is harm being done to your dog, then in black and white terms it doesn't matter. However, because it's not an active hunting tactic on the part of the coyote, and instead a situation brought on by your dog's curiosity/aggressiveness/hunting instinct/playfulness, you can condition your dog to not chase wild animals, and specifically coyotes. There are tons of explanations of how to do this online, but it comes down to basic conditioning exercises like pretty much all other dog training.

I have two 1 y.o. coonhound/chocolate lab mixes who are way too stubborn and prone to hunt to rely on training them.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Fair enough brother, I just trying to set your mind at ease a little bit. Obviously every situation with dogs is a little different.

No, I appreciate it.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

I think there's some dynamics there that make this an oversimplification. Go to Youtube and search "coyote hunting with dogs" and watch some of the interactions. There's a lot of videos showing an effective way of hunting coyotes is to lure them in with decoy dogs, and it's not because they want to play. Aside from that, small dogs and cats are on the buffet for them in my area on a regular basis. I'm certain they wouldn't take down a pitbull or German shepherd, but pugs/poodles/etc are on the menu from personal experience. Cats don't stand a chance. Two of my favorite calls for pressured coyotes are pup distress and cat distress.

Ultimately Coyotes are hunting animals, and they are interested in eating things so they can survive. My point was specifically about the idea that they actively lure dogs into ambushes as a hunting tactic. Obviously, smaller dogs, cats, and other small animals are always at risk to the basic hunting instinct of coyotes.

I guess I should have specified that maybe you shouldn't be as worried about your similar sized/larger dog being lured into an ambush, because like many animals, they don't want to mess with other animals that are likely to kill them. Survival is their natural instinct above all else.

I grew up in the desert and around coyotes pretty much my whole childhood.

There are 4 things you need to do.

1) NEVER leave ANY food outside, including pet food, human, garbage or anything that can be eaten or smelt.
2) Do you have a fence? If so it's not going to keep them out unless you add a coyote roll at the top that is bent outward. Use a chicken wire mesh.
3) Buy this:
https://www.predatorpeestore.com/wolf-urine.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwy7vlBRACE...

To stop a predator you need a larger predator, and one they will be familiar with. Wolf generally is the best as mountain lions are not as familiar to coyotes. Make sure you spray posts of your fence, the fences next to your property and outlying trees in a good radius outside your property. Spray from waist to chest high so it appears to be a large predator to coyotes. This will work best with females and small males. Larger males, especially urban coyotes will be less threatened with wolf urine and still be a danger.

That's where this comes in:
4) coyote flash bangs. Step 1, get a motion detector strobe light. These are usually used as deer deterrents like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E51X8Q8/ref=sspa_dk_detail_0?psc=1&pd_rd_i=...

but coyotes can get acclimated to just light, especially if they view your yard as a food source so you need to add the bang as well, and this is where you need to get crafty. the last line of defense is something that is going to flash and bang at the same time. This you may want to put either near the perimeter of your property or out in the bush a ways. There are several methods of creating a flash bang which you can look up yourself and depending upon how crafty you are , and how crazy you are are VERY effective. Get a motion trigger, strobe and self lighting fuse and put it all together. We used to use coffee cans, buckshot and some fireworks with a self lighting fuse. (this was before motion sensors so we lured them with food) But you can legally purchase a flash bang so you can look into that and what you need to do to purchase them where you are. Just make sure your neighbors are aware of what you are up to.

The reason we added buckshot is that ideally you want them to get bitten back. Coyotes are cowardly unless they absolutely feel they are the predator. As there are kids with you, this may be something you want to not include.

Good luck

Definitely going to look into wolf urine. And the thought of using flashbangs in my neighborhood gives me a good belly laugh.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

We have sheep and goats protected by a 4' woven wire fence. We have installed something called Nite Guard it is a solar powered 3" X 3" square with a little blinking red light on it. Nail it to a post or tree about knee high. We scattered 4 or 5 around to make a perimeter. There is something about it that makes coyotes wary to come near it. I think coyotes eat more mice and small mammals than they do deer unless they find them dead.

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My buddy (A Hokie) in West Texas traps them by the dozens. I'll ask him. But I bet he's going to say you either need to trap them or shoot 'em.

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Frankly, we are all lucky that coyotes are not more aggressive, because they are smart as hell and can adapt to live pretty much anywhere (you can literally find them in alleys and less busy parts of NYC, for example)

I live in the heart of Scottsdale (about 1/2 mile from Fashion Square mall, for anyone familiar with the area). Neighborhood was built in the 50s and definitely not "in the desert" so to speak, and I usually go for a morning jog just before sunrise in the neighborhood. I have run into single coyotes and packs of 4-5 at least 30-40 times over the last 8 years just running down the street. We have a lot of jackrabbits so that's what brings em in (we have a lot of Harris's hawks which are one of the few raptors that hunt socially, which is pretty awesome to watch in the morning), and small pets are definitely in danger.

But in observing their nature, I would find it very unlikely they would go after a child or a larger pet unless under extreme duress. When I come across them, they can't run away fast enough, although it can be unsettling to round a corner in the dark and see pairs of eyes glistening back at you for a second before they turn tail. But I've also seen them jump on top of a 6 foot block wall to get over and drink out of pools in peoples back yards, so physical barriers don't stop much. I've heard good results about utilizing the wolf urine scent from friends of mine in a bit more rural spots of the valley. Motion lights can work to a point, but they get used to those eventually.

So you're really saying you live in a town where you watch roadrunner and Willey the coyote chase each other around each day?

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

I would try some Bolivian tree lizards first.

box trap and call animal control?

From what I gather, trapping is also not allowed. If I did it, I'd have to take care of them myself.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

When you get desperate, buy a good .22 air rifle and lure them in at night.

I would love to lure them, sit on my deck with the AR and go ham, but that's "frowned upon."

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Hence the at night and air rifle. No one needs to know.

"frowned upon"

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

I recommend one of these:

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

A friend of mine that has a small farm in eastern Colorado had a problem with coyotes taking his chickens. He solved the problem by pasturing donkeys on his property. Apparently donkeys hate coyotes.

Class of '02. GO HOKIES!

They stomp their lights out

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Here in SW Virginia, that's also common practice on cattle farms. You'll see most pastures have a single donkey hanging out with the herd of cows to keep coyotes away from the calves. Donkeys do not take any guff from coyotes.

“You got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

Donkeys don't fuck around they're stubborn as hell but will go ham on a coyote if they're dumb enough to go near one

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

If I can't unleash real firepower, I'd get a good pellet gun and a 12 pack and give them a reason not to come in your yard.

Giant Fire!

It's pronounced "Cougar"

This is going to be great for the ACC.

But my wife told me to take care of it.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Paintball gun with pepperballs. They will disappear. Both the Coyotes and the pepperballs.

I did a google search and holy F...

Boil hotdogs in anti freeze...then simply throw the hot dogs around the area. Just know every hot dog eating creature in the vacinity will be dead in a week.

Jackass also works too. They run the yotes off.

Sure foxes arent getting the chickens?

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Let's Go

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Yeah... That's how you get arrested.

Have you considered getting a pet roadrunner and letting the problem take care of itself?

“You got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
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I would, but the coyotes would just keep coming back for more.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

What do coyotes think of angry bears? Pretty easy to make a bear call.

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Keep harassing animal control and bring it up with local government leaders. Eventually they will take care of it. I'm born and raised in the suburbs. You try shooting with anything that makes a pop or a bang and the cops will be at your door. Not worth it unless you like fines and ending up on a list somewhere.

Where I live now I saw a coyote early one morning that made me do a double take. It was the largest, healthiest coyote I have ever seen. Two weeks later a trapper for one at the edge of a town south of me and he was telling the news it was the largest alpha he had come across. Haven't seen or heard any near us since.

Oh and if you think they are not on your property yet, they most likely have already checked it out.

Good luck. Don't get arrested.

If you want to "lure" one in and then use self defense as an excuse to lay one out right now they're hunting turkeys heavily with the turkeys in strut so best advice is get a turkey decoy from Walmart and early in the AM at first light do some calling and if they're there they will come investigate the will attack decoys. Other tip is buy a big ass frozen turkey and the wire the fucker up with 120 volts set on a switch and wait for em to go grab it and wrap the turkey in something conductive like chicken wire and wait till they're all over it and light em up. No town ordinances against electrocuting em eh?
Almost forgot dont forget to put the turkey on an insulating rubber tarp so you can really get ahold of them if they go for it.
Edit and for a longer lasting effect baste the turkey and inject it with some super concentrated laxative that way if they get to eat it they pay a large price.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

I like the cut of your jib.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Red Green leg for you. Keep your stick on the ice.

Take the shortest route to the ball and arrive in bad humor.

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Official: "Well you see, what happened was..."

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You misspelled "240 volts."

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Wouldn't want him to have to smell the burned hair for a while after that we just wanna tickle em enough to leave him be

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LOL this is epic.

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Get you some Turkey decoys, set them up, get the turkey call on your cell app. and call them in, they love turkeys and will come to a turkey call. You can call them in and not break the law. I have killed them using this method. Plus rabbit call will bring them to your land. Today's guns with Silencers , which is legal , no problem. Good Luck.. PS, they love house cats ...

Jack R.

@hokie_rd

Some of your responses have been...um...interesting, some informative.

My favorite legit (*legit in application, if not legality) suggestions:
-Wolf urine to deter them when I'm not around.
-*Pepperballs for when I see them

Favorite responses I wish I could try:
-Electrified turkey
-Flashbangs
-"Mistakenly identifying" them as deer
-Mini-guns with motion sensors

The absolute best option would be to get permission from the landowner behind us to shoot onto their property with a crossbow, bow, or air rifle. But that is a complicated relationship and even if they granted said permission it could be held against me a later time because reasons.

Thank you for all the suggestions, serious and otherwise.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Sounds like you need a new pet donkey and/or llama:

Don't really have room for a donkey or llama. I have thought about borrowing my cousin's Irish Wolfhounds though. I figure dogs bred to hunt wolves could do a number on coyotes.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Anything bred to defend livestock would be fine. Buddies golden retriever caught and killed a coyote the other night by itself in the dark. We have german wirehairs and they will go after them if they get a shot at one.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

That could work... but you could also end up with a dead dog. Big difference between a loved pit bull and pit bull trained to fight. Unless your buddy has taught the wolf hounds to hunt wolves... you might not get the results you want

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I think killing the coyotes is at best a temporary solution to a permanent problem. Yeah, if you kill one, it's gone, but coyotes are good at responding to your eradication efforts. Females, when faced with a stressed population, will produce more pups more often as a direct result, negating, in the long run, your futile efforts. If there's a niche for them, they will fill it. Poison or traps are potentially too indiscriminate for humane control, and were I your neighbor, I'd certainly be more afraid of you than the coyotes for my pet's safety if you go that route. Bounties haven't worked, hence the way they went away over time.
I have no suggestions about how to control coyotes, but I would suggest that you accept the presence of them, and tailor your behavior accordingly. Pets should be supervised, reasonable measures, like suggested about pet food, bird feeders and garbage that could attract them, serious fencing, and common sense can at least mitigate your possible negative encounters. I have a puppy that hawks and owls, much less osprey and bald eagles, who live all around me, are a possible problem if I left her outside. She's almost small enough to worry about a full grown black snake, for goodness sake. Well, maybe not. I have four puncture wounds already just playing with her, and she's gonna be mean as hell, but you get my drift. I'm fiercely protective of her, but my physical presence will take care of that. I'd worry less about pets inside a well built fence. Yeah, coyotes can jump and climb, but a good fence in a populated area is an excellent deterrent. But when the sun goes down, remove temptation for them to do that and I firmly believe they will. Anecdotal evidence isn't necessarily the norm, and perhaps your level of fear and concern isn't warranted, I don't know.
You don't have to like them, you don't have to respect them, you don't have to admire their adaptation and intelligence, but chances are, you will have to live with them. I wish you luck, and this isn't a "don't shoot one of God's creatures just makin' a living doing what they were created to do" take. But my take is that you cannot expect to make them go away now that they've adapted to your neighborhood. As for their taste for cats, I can only say that cats are part of the problem with the loss of songbirds and quail and rabbits, and folks often dismiss the level of impact they have. No, I don't want the coyotes to eat your pussy, but feral cats are a problem in many places that don't have coyotes. Which is worse? Don't know. I do know that turkeys are particularly targeted by coyotes, and bears, as well, which is a big negative. Like I say, I know of no solution, but I have given it a bit of thought.

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TBH, I'm not really looking to kill them, mainly do what I can to make them think twice about coming closer. I'm not even positive that I need to worry about them with three dogs. They alone may make act as a deterrent. I just don't want the coyotes anywhere near them. There's nothing that will make me go into scorched earth mode faster than fucking with my dogs. Trying to keep it from coming anywhere near that.

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Shoot the bastards. Subsonic .22. No questions asked. One through the lungs and they'll die a half mile from your property. They'll learn quick to stay outta range.

Well if you can't shoot them with a gun legally, what about a potato cannon? Probably wouldn't kill them but they might get the message.

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Plus, it's fun as hell.
For the record, I'm willing and quite capable of defending my pets, but where I live, I worry more about roaming dogs than coyotes. No leash laws in this county, never know what may wander by.

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Maybe some long range tasers, bean bag guns, or some bear mace oughta do the trick

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Didn't read many comments, but about the only way to gain control is to be the hunter. In my area of Virginia, they are considered a nuisance/pest and able to kill freely. I think they used to offer $25 for a female hide.

Leaving it up to animal control and reports is not going to solve your issue. Invest in some .22 or varmint variation and get to work. I really don't think anyone will give you much hassle if you're thinning them out.

I do not know if this will work with coyotes, but years ago a racoon took up residence in my chimney and moth balls were effective in driving her and her kits out. That suggestion came from the local animal control service and it seemed to work within 24 hours.

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Semi disturbing

I've never heard of this trick being used with coyotes, but I have seen it used successfully to keep buzzards away.

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Good way to attract bears to your region.

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I think you're on to something. If you can attract the bears, the coyote problem goes away.

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I think you're on to something. If you can attract the bears, the coyote problem goes away.

Ah, the ol' Major Payne technique.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Just when you thought coyotes were bad...

I'm less than 2 miles from town center in VB. We had one run through our back yard last month.

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I have watched red foxes trotting down the beach on the bay at Lynnhaven.

Have you tried marking your territory? Just use the woods for a couple of weeks and see if the coyotes view your smell as superior.

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So maybe there is actually a use for this?

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The actual fuck?

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They sold it at whole foods because well people are idiots.

I'm intrigued by the idea. But seriously? $5.99?
I hope they provide lube with the reamings people are getting.

They should bring their own lube since they're essentially screwing theirownselves.

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I keep checking to see if the electric turkey has been utilized, I may have to try it out on raccoons and possums in my back yard one day.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

I've been too busy with yard work to utilize any method so far. If I make it as far as the electric turkey, rest assured, there will be a full report.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Man if you do definitely get it on video I'd be tempted to attach a gopro close to it to get a good view.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

the chicken wire would be difficult to implement. In theory, you want two layers of it with some insulator between so when the coyote's touch both (biting, presumeably), they get shocked. More likely, the two will just touch each other and short circuit leaving the varmints unscathed.

Better:

  • Wrap turkey in chicken wire and connect to one leg of the power line.
  • Put turkey on insulated base and then set it in a appliance pan with a little water in the bottom.
  • Wire appliance pan to the ground.
  • Make popcorn and set up a lawn chair.

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That was where my point of get a big ass rubber mat came from wouldnt want them to get off lightly. Good idea putting it in water though hadnt thought that far into it.

Edit: Did some more thinking and forget the rubber mat just replace that with a kiddie pool and put the turkey in the pool in the middle of the pool and have the wires on a switched circuit and youll really get ahold of em

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

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Hire Gallagher to lie in wait, Sledge-O-Matic in hand.


Then prepare yourself to clean up the bits and pieces.

Post the address of ACME Manufacturing around the border of your property. They will order things that will solve your problem.

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I would like to nominate this for Thread of the Month on TKP. Reading everyone's suggestions and strategies for coyote eradication has been very enjoyable and engrossing.

Also, very sympathetic for your coyote problem.