OT: Unpopular Opinion Thread

Welp, we've finally arrived. Its the offseason (well, save for tomorrow's glorified practice otherwise known as the Spring Game)

So lets get it started in style. What are some unpopular opinions that you may have that you want to get off your chest.

I'll start

This:

Is far superior to this:

Look, I get it. The additional part is supposed to resemble the shape of Virginia and its supposed to be a cute subliminal node to our home state, but... Ehh, the first one is just better. Just because you added that cute nod doesn't make it look better. Go back to the old one.

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How much time do we have?

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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141 Days 5 hours, give or take a couple hours

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

Sooo not enough

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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Mac and Cheese Kraft is the only good one and all Mac And Cheese is kids food.
Chipotle is crap Moe's if you have to have "fast food California style Mexican" is better.
Zaxbys is crap Raising Canes is better.
Rotating RB's is a fine run game plan.
Cake is a bad food.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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Mac and Cheese Kraft is the only good one and all Mac And Cheese is kids food.
Chipotle is crap Moe's if you have to have "fast food California style Mexican" is better.
Zaxbys is crap Raising Canes is better.

Rotating RB's is a fine run game plan.
Cake is a bad food.

I 100% agree with all of this...I wish they had another RB behind Barry Sanders so he could have played longer.

Barry is my favorite player of all time. I don't hate him for leaving at all.

Is it actually unpopular that Canes is better than Zaxbys? I think Zaxbys is trash even when NOT compared to Canes...

I stopped at a Zaxby's for lunch on a recent roadtrip, it took 30+ minutes to get the food; food was ok... but that is most definitely not fast food.

Also, Zaxby's sauce is just mayo and ketchup...

There sauce is made in a factory somewhere and shipped out and their chicken fingers are frozen. Canes made in each store and chicken is never frozen.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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Mac and cheese is for everyone when it is homemade with multiple cheeses, box stuff is for kids.

Everything else is 100% accurate.

Velveta shells is a classy meal for learned engineers.
Chipotle is the best in every category besides queso and ground beef.
Bojangles>Popeyes>Raising Canes>KFC>Zaxbys>Churches.
Rotating RBs is fine but you should still have someone who's "the guy".
I had a whole Owens cheesecake for dinner once to clean out my meal plan.

Recruit Prosim

Bojangles>Popeyes

Sorry but that is flat out wrong when it comes to the chicken. Bojangles biscuit meals are top of the line though.

"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders via Ricky Bobby

Mac and cheese as a whole is one of the most over rated side dishes ever conceived. It's tailor-made for picky 5 year olds, but unless it is augmented with something awesome like lobster or bacon, no self respecting adult should have such a deep love for noodles and cheese sauce. It is in no way inedible, but there are dozens of better choices to put on your plate. Change my mind.

The only way to change your mind about this would be for you to taste it when it's done right, with authentic ingredients, by someone who knows what they're doing.

Lobster or bacon, on the other hand, are nice touches to an already good menu item.

Agreed. Saying that Mac & Cheese is only for five year olds is akin to saying that Velveeta is the only kind of cheese.

If you're reading the above post and thinking, "is this guy serious?!?," you can safely assume I'm not.

Velveeta is not even cheese. It is a processed cheese product.

This is exactly my point!

If you're reading the above post and thinking, "is this guy serious?!?," you can safely assume I'm not.

But I promised Joe I wouldn't get into a wrasslin' match so he could take a break.

I keed. I keed.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Been some shitty days at work recently. If we ever meet up, I owe you a bourbon

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

Imma hold you to that. Not because I think you owe me a drink, but because bourbon.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

luckily for you, I rarely go anywhere that bourbon isn't an option.

Especially tailgates

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

I rarely go anywhere that bourbon isn't an option

Hell, I might like you after all.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

but because bourbon

Name checks out

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

Yep, just spit water all over my desk/keyboard

Yeah I laughed really hard.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

Dwayne Lawson

VHokie

The Beatles are so-so

AC/DC is a steaming pile of garbage

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

You're wrong about AC/DC (at least the prior iterations with Bonn Scott and Brian Johnson). They were rockers.

The really recent stuff, I can't defend.

See my explanation below

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Yeah, sure... Beatles are so-so. They just invented an entire genre of popular music and recorded the best concept album of all time.

No big deal.

Leonard. Duh.

I present to you, Exhibit A:

Five Reasons Why the Beatles Suck

Can't argue with the guy

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

You're wrong about the Beatles; they were a product and reflection of their times. That article is a good read, though.

You're wrong about me being wrong, both on the Beatles and AC/DC

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

I see what you're saying in both cases. But I think you're missing the big picture in both cases.

Sgt Pepper's is at the top of every best album ever list.

It's like everybody's opinion.

Man.

Leonard. Duh.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

The Beatles sucked until they started dropping acid!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Kyle Busch is the new Dale Earnhardt.

Now, Cole, when you shift the gear and that little needle on the tach goes into the red and reads 9000 RPMs, that's bad!

100% agree. I however have been a KB fan since he signed with JGR, so I may be biased.

I had a friend once who turned out to be a KB fan. Still hang out with him all the time, but we ain't friends anymore.

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Oh, are we going there with The Office?

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

I love the "Pam actually sucks" takes. So hysterical

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Amy - Jenna - Isla

Jenna - Isla - Amy

Isla - Amy - Jenna

Child's play

Redheads are amazing. Change my mind.

TKPhi Damn Proud
BSME 2009

Why change a mind when you're correct?

False. Being attractive just means you have the right combination of coloring, bone structure, shape, and appeal to the nostalgia of the guy making the evaluation. Put red hair on someone with a complexion better complemented by black hair and you'll make an attractive woman less so.

Attractive women are attractive
Some attractive women are redheads
Many redheads are not attractive.

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Maybe, but all redheads are more fun.

Change my mind.

Are you asking for a redhead to show you a bad time?

I'm saying that I have some experience with redheads, and they have an excellent track record.

You know I've had excellent track record of eating tasty sushi, doesnt mean I'm going to buy it from a train station in chicago.

I'm certainly not disagreeing with that.

Questionable redheads are probably a lot more fun than questionable sushi.

Chick-Fil-A biscuits are trash. I'm not talking about the chicken, which is obviously elite, but the biscuits are horrible. It's blatantly obvious that they're not made fresh and places like Bojangle's and Hardee's have a far superior biscuit.

Hold up there bud, my perfect biscuit is the Chick-fil-A bacon biscuit with grape jelly. I'll die on this hill.

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

Would you rather have a Chick-fil-A biscuit over either of the establishments I mentioned above? Hardee's biscuits are elite, Bojangle's a close 2nd IMO.

Yes because they do bacon perfectly at Chick-fil-A. It's not burnt. And it's in like a nicely formed disc

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

What-a-burger chicken biscuit is superior to all the above. Wake up sheeple

Well, RIP then.

Reel men fish on Wednesdays

Skip the biscuit. Not on the menu but order:
Chicken, bacon, egg, and cheese on the bagel. You wont be disappointed.

As a resident ATLien...HIGHLY recommend eating at an ATL area Chikfila Dwarf house restaurant if you're ever in town.

ESPECIALLY on saturday mornings:

Let's Go

HOKIES

THIS!!! A few years ago a group of us drove to Atlanta for a Thursday VT vs GT football game & stayed over Friday night as well. That Saturday morning, our hungover group unknowingly stumbled into a Chick fil-a Dwarf House on the way out of town. All-you-can eat chick-fil-a breakfast, including gravy. It was a religious experience.

Several Points -

I stumbled upon the Dwarf House in Rome on a Tuesday evening where they happened to be doing the breakfast buffet from 6p-9p. I injured myself with the chicken fillets and the gravy. Good God, man.

Chick-Fil-A biscuits are indeed bad. Too greasy/buttery and they fall apart.

If you ever happen to be in NC, Go to Biscuitville. One Biscuit To Rule them All. Bojangles, Hardees, your granny... won't even come close. They're the best.

Leonard. Duh.

Tudor's Biscuit World
Steak, egg, cheese and potato

The Tudor's in downtown Roanoke was the best. RIP

"Cartoons Plural, Virginia Tech"

Scratch Biscuit Company in Roanoke > all

Tyrod did it Mikey, Tyrod did it!!

If you're ever in Asheville, give Biscuit Head a whirl.

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

Seconded! Biscuit Head is one of my favorite restaurants of all time.

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

How have I never heard of this? There's a void in my life that now I never knew existed.

All biscuits are worthless filler anyway.

If you have fried chicken and biscuits in front of you and you reach for the biscuits, I just don't know what's wrong with you.

The doll's trying to kill me and the toaster's been laughing at me.

Chick-Fil-A is ridiculously overrated. I can make a better fried chicken sandwich in my sleep and their nuggets suck.

This shit just got real

"That kid you're talking to right there, I think he played his nuts off! And you can quote me on that shit!" -Bud Foster

As someone who works at CFA.

CFA nuggets are straight trash that taste like overcooked salted chicken, the sandwich can be alright, and the strips actually have flavor and are pretty good (sorry current students). Also CFA sauce isn't that good and the honey roasted bbq packets are noticeably better. The only thing waffle fries are good for is being sauce vessels (for polynesian sauce). They are really disappointing fries on their own.

"Hokie religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid." Han Solo

Waffle fries are made for their mayo. Was the only way I could tolerate them when I was younger. After living in Germany and visiting Bruges I can't have fries any other way.

in Fuller we trust

agree, they're marginal. The McDonalds near me makes fantastic buttery biscuits for breakfast, one of these days I'm going to create a Frankenstein breakfast sandwich, transferring the fried chicken from Chick-Fil-A into the buttery embrace of a McDonalds biscuit

A vote for bojangles biscuits here.

"What are you going to do, stab me? - Quote from Man Stabbed

Lol is he actually saying what I'm hearing in my head?

Recruit Prosim

If you're looking for a good biscuit and find yourself in Roanoke, check out Scratch. It's in Grandin and their food is excellent!

Just call it in, pull up and they bring it out to you. Repeat 5 times for a week. Gain 20 points.

Also, it is the best biscuit I have ever had

There mini biscuits (which arent quite biscuits) are amazing though.

their coffee is the worst coffee i've ever had in my life

Hey we can actually settle this. We're currently doing a biscuit challenge bracket at work. Double elimination blind taste test everyone gets one vote. I believe Chick Fil a, Hardees, and Bojangles are in.

(add if applicable) /s

Radiohead sucks. It's just whiny noise.

I have gotten lost in the music in a few of their albums, namely Kid A and Ok Computer. It just felt like it became one with the environment I was in and the music just made sense. Even the album artwork just made sense. When it finished playing, my friends and I sat in silence for a few minutes before we realized it ended.

"This message may or may not have been brought to you by drugs."

But agreed, it can sometimes feel like whiny noise if you are not feeling it.

When we lived in Blacksburg we had friends who printed Radiohead lyrics and cut them in strips and had them hanging all over the apartment just everywhere.

That also may have been brought to you by drugs

"That kid you're talking to right there, I think he played his nuts off! And you can quote me on that shit!" -Bud Foster

The best thing we had in our apartment was a wall with the chalkboard paint. It was always open for anyone to draw something new or add onto whatever was there before.

I'm going with brought to you by drugs.

Back in my day, I watched a movie called "The Accidental Tourist" with Kathleen Turner and William Hurt and thought it was the best film ever made.

I watched it clean and sober years later and was all like, "What the Fuck?"

Leonard. Duh.

Unpopular opinion: Some folks believe CHEESE is disgusting

Let's Go

HOKIES

And those folks are wrong

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

Get your facts out of this opinion thread.

Proud author of one plaid comment.

The Masters is an overrated sporting event and people only get so excited about it because everyone tells them they should. I get it, the course is nice and has a lot of layers of prestige around it, but I think if you're honest with yourself and even passively consider yourself a golf fan, you're just as likely to watch U.S./British Opens, PGA Championship and The Players with equal or very similar enjoyment.

The Masters is more of a change of seasons event which I think what makes people so excited. A lot of the excitement comes from that we are finally exiting winter and the weather is becoming nicer. And I've heard it is one of the best run sporting events for spectators to be at. Legitimately everything onsite is run perfectly.

I've been to a The Masters once, and it's great as a spectator. Even the food and drink is affordable (read: significantly lower than stadium prices).

However, as someone who goes to the US Open every year and has interned for the USGA for it, I also agree that it's just as good. Though, the food deals aren't to be had at the US Open. I also just like the variety of a different course and the challenges that come with that it.

I love the Masters and USOpen.
But nothing beats

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

This is 100% correct. I loved the Open when I went. It was so much better ran than the US Open and the PGA. The masters does have great food prices, but the Open let's you bring coolers into it. Hell on Monday practice round I walked right on to the course, no baracades by the 17th at St. Andrews. No one cared if I had a ticket or not. You could get seats in stands, you could walk the course, you could drink. It was by far the best experience I've had.

Winged Foot for the US Open was fun too becuase you could get across the course so easily and see so much golf. Also I was 10 feet away from Phil when he hit a tent. And directly behind Phil when he hit a tree.

This sounds like you need to stay the fuck away from Phil.

"They'd rather win football games, you'd rather be sophisticated. Go like baseball loser."
-Colin Cowherd

#ALLMAROONEVERYTHING

You mean, along here? ;)

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

15 Straight

Having attended multiple Masters, PGA championships, US Opens and random tour events, the best things about going to the masters are the beautiful course, the food prices and the lack of crowds. US Open and PGA championship are so packed it becomes less fun. Watching on TV all events are equal in my mind.

It's insanely overrated. Golf sucks in general.

Counter I expect to see... "fishing is overrated / sucks."

That's fine.... get off my lawn river.

You will see this game, this upset and this sign next on ESPN Sportscenter. Virginia Tech 31 Miami 7

Neither golf or fishing suck. They are both awesome!

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

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This guy gets it. Golf and fishing are both awesome activities/sports to be enjoyed out of doors from childhood until death. Both promote camaraderie and humor by those willing to submit to the joys and frustrations that each produces voluminously. I gleefully look forward to doing both with my future grandchildren ad nauseam, assuming that I can tear their little eyes away from the inevitable electronic devices.

VTCC '86 Delta Company, Hokie in Peru, TKPC#490, One of us!

Hardcore golf fan checking in. If you haven't been to it I can understand that opinion. I went to US Open 2014 & Masters 2015. The US Open was fucking miserable. The USGA dried the whole damn course up and made the entire place (Pinehurst) Kansas 1933. The Masters was so good it's hard to put it into words. Between the course, viewing, and cheap beer/food, it is fantastic. I haven't been, but my parents did the last Open at St. Andrew's and say its right up there with the masters.

No one cares about the PGA. It's whatever.

I equate The Masters to the Daytona 500 more than anything. It's the showcase event that gets more neutral eyeballs than any other event within the sport, so CBS can really ham it up. Trust me, golf nerds are totally self-aware of the criticism and we are insufferable about it.

Lastly, most golf nerds aren't trustfund, country club kids. I didn't grow up playing one and still don't. It's a generational game usually passed from father to son (or daughter) and that's why it's so special to me. This is why we all have the shitty swings of our dad's.

"They'd rather win football games, you'd rather be sophisticated. Go like baseball loser."
-Colin Cowherd

#ALLMAROONEVERYTHING

We have a commonwealth cup

Response:

Let's Go

HOKIES

That's really more of a lie than an opinion.

Edit: Oh, I see. The opinion is that their lie should be mocked.

UNPOPULAR OPINION: Avocados are kinda gross to me. I don't get the hype.

I found TKP after two rails from TOTS then walking back to my apartment and re-watching the 2012 Sugar Bowl. I woke up the next day with this username.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

I with you on this one, I don't even like guacamole unless it's in one of those seven layer dips. I have never understood why avocados have become such a big deal.

I feel the same way about mushrooms.

Make a BLT, and instead of Mayo (Oh Dear Jesus, please let them not start a Mayo subthread) spread some guacamole, or add some avocado.

You're welcome.

Leonard. Duh.

Just in time for Easter (sorry Leonard!!)

Danny Coale Caught That Ball!!!

Obligatory...

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

I see nothing wrong with this picture

Avacado is essentially nature's butter. An overripe avacado spread on some toast with a little salt/paprika is magical.

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

I'll do you one better....sourdough toast, spread some mayo, mash and spread avocado, black pepper, red onion, bell pepper

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Hey, chalk this up as a win. More for you. I have to fight Mrs. APFOW for guacamole whenever we have Mexican.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Good take. Guacamole blows too.

"They'd rather win football games, you'd rather be sophisticated. Go like baseball loser."
-Colin Cowherd

#ALLMAROONEVERYTHING

Unpopular opinion: The sole purpose of an unpopular opinion thread is to create petty arguments over random things.

just kidding, it's fun finding out how wrong all of you are about everything, and how right I am in my opinions.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

No, it's just a cheap ploy to recoup all the turkey legs he lost in Joe's meta thread.

“You got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

Sshhhh, you shut your mouth while the man's offering me bourbon.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Five guys is over priced garbage and four brothers bistro is 10 times better

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Over priced - oh yea. But man is it perfect for a hangover

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

Objectively, Four Brothers is more expensive for less food, so I don't think you can make the argument that five guys is overpriced.

For those of us who aren't convenient to Richmond, you'll have to buy us something from there to prove your point.

No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

We don't love dem Hoos.

Unpopular opinion: If everyone on this thread doesn't have downvotes, we all lost.

Is it basketball season yet?

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Haha... This is gold!

Is it basketball season yet?

I like the new academic logo. I think its on brand, modern, and way better than the pylons.

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Let's Go

HOKIES

Your opinion is so wrong its insulting. But.... its appropriate for this thread. Upvote achievement unlocked.

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

You're making it hard for me to follow the community guidelines and not downvote because I don't agree with you ☹️

It's Time to go to Work

u2 (post Aqualung)
Coldplay
Nickleback
Maroon 5
Justin Bieber are the worst bands/artists EVER (wait, am I doing this right?).

Waho's suck
Uva swallows

For a second I was thinking damn macgruber is really going for it

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

Wow, didn't know that there were people out there that hated U2...i thought the band was revered like the Beatles...see im learning...

U2 is the fucking worst. Right up there with AC/DC in my books

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Dude, One is an amazing song. I'm not a huge U2 guy but they've made some quality stuff.

And if you detest AC/DC I'm guessing you don't like rock n roll?

"That kid you're talking to right there, I think he played his nuts off! And you can quote me on that shit!" -Bud Foster

You would guess wrong. The vocals are annoying as all fuck. The drumming is so easy I could teach my dog to take on that role in about an hours time; the guitar work, again, with a few hours practice a fucking monkey could play it. Lyrics are straight cheesy.

AC/DC is shit. Plain and simple.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

I agree with you

When in doubt. Nap it out

You're too late on being a hipster and pretending to hate everything. That chicken flew the coup in 2015 or so...

Leonard. Duh.

I'm ahead of my time then, I've hated AC/DC since I started listening to the radio in the 80s

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

I've seen interviews where the band itself agrees with most of what you're saying. They just wanted to make catchy rocknroll. They're not trying to be the best.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

Correct. It's not that any of their music is complex.

It's more that it's played with attitude, and they never claimed anything different.

I hate U2.

Twitter me

Aqualung was by Jethro Tull???

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Agree with all of these especially the redundant trash that is U2; BUUUUTTTTTT Silverside Up and Long Road are good albums by Nickelback

good albums by Nickelback

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Leg for the funny ass gif, lol maybe that's my biggest unpopular opinion but yeah I think they're solid; especially compared to the trash that's out there now. By no means are they audiolave or tool quality, but there are some good songs on them.

Head basketball coaches that wear suits look ridiculous. You're coaching basketball, not attending a wedding. You don't look classy or dignified. You look silly. I'm no fan of Jim Belushi Bob Huggins, but the man knows how to dress like a damn coach.

.

It's easier to cut a windbreaker than a double breasted suit jacket for the AED machine.

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Lmao

I have to agree with this one, it also applies to hockey coaches

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

It's the tradition to wear a suit and coach basketball. Therefore it can't be ridiculous.

Kids these days... no affection for decorum and etiquette.

Leonard. Duh.

The additional part is supposed to resemble the shape of Virginia...

How did I never see that before?

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

I got the mother of them all. The '18-'19 UVA Men's Basketball Team is the absolute GREATEST in the history of the NCAA, EVER.

Waho's suck
Uva swallows

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Why does the guy getting bashed in the noggin bear similar facial features of Buzz??

Waho's suck
Uva swallows

Hadn't noticed, but now it's even more cathartic

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

You left off the giant slash

Syracuse??

Waho's suck
Uva swallows

This is the Unpopular Opinion Thread.

You're clearly looking for the Things Stupid Jackwagons Say Thread

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

But that is not what the television man told me

I dont even think this team is the greatest champion this decade. Villanova would wipe the floor with UVA...

The GREATEST team ever would not have to have last second heroics to win the final 3 games.

Everyone likes doing burpees

Let's Go

HOKIES

Burpees are the only thing I do better than everyone else. Leg

Name any Tom Hanks movie, and that movie would be better with another actor replacing Tom Hanks.

Let's test it out.

Who is your replacement actor in these movies?

Saving Private Ryan
Castaway
Forrest Gump

Castaway - I want to see what Will Smith or Jim Carrey could do with this..and i think it would be better than Tom Hanks..

Are Will Smith and Jim Carrey still on cocaine during that role, or are they the 'later in life more serious role' actor

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

Waho's suck
Uva swallows

"Will Smith on Cocaine" - hadn't heard that one. I figured Carrey was using around the Man on the Moon...

Still I think both of them would do a better job than Hanks did in that movie..

Tom Hanks won a Golden Globe for that role.

Saving Private Ryan: Harrison Ford and Mel Gibson were originally considered for the role, either woulda been better

Castaway: Jamie Foxx would have won Best Actor in this role

Forrest Gump: Doesn't matter. Movie is trash. Role is probably in Adam Sandler's wheelhouse though.

Hanks was brilliant in each of those roles.

Yeah this opinion is FUBAR

Tom Hanks was perfect in Saving Private Ryan every role he's ever had

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

nope Castaway should have be 80s Robin Williams. He would have killed it.

That would have been brilliant.

“You got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

just imagine his character from Jumanji in the Castaway role instead

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Yeah, they could have made it into a comedy.

Oh, wait, that would have been Joe vs the Volcano.

Castaway on AMC tonight.

Hanks was great in that role. Williams would also have been good, but I think not better than Hanks.

Forrest Gump: Doesn't matter. Movie is trash.

Leg for most unpopular opinion I have ever heard.

Philadelphia...Nope
Cast Away...Yes
Forrest Gump...Nope
Green Mile...Yes
Thats all i can think of right now..

Big... nope
Joe vs the Volcano... nope
The Terminal... Yes

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

The Terminal... Yes

That movie was the biggest letdown I had seen since Welcome to Mooseport...

I still catch it whenever its on HBO, because CZJ

But yeah. Tom Hanks was just out of his element there. One of those roles where they probably should have given it to an actual E. European

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

I'm giving you a leg for this take, mainly because of my disdain for all things Tom Hanks post and including Forrest Gump.

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

I can't tell you how much this gif triggers me. Leg for the troll job

Toy Story disagrees

Edit:

So does Polar Express

Not good examples, IMO. Toy Story was great and would still be great with almost any competent voice actor as Woody. I don't think Hanks added anything to those movies that couldn't be replaced with relative ease.

Polar Express was trash.

“You got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

Woody Harrelson, all Tom Hanks movies.

Class of '02. GO HOKIES!

You misspelled "Cruise."

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

Even though your contempt of Top Gun is completely misguided, I am perfectly willing to concede this point save one role...

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Nah man, Tom Cruise isn't a person I would want to hang with, but that guy can make movies. He sells it, and there are very few bad entries in his catalogue IMO.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

He can make a certain kind of movie.

Certainly doesn't have the range of Tom Hanks.

Never said he did. I like both actors for what they are.

Cruise has Hanks beat on the jumping off of rooftops front though.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

OK, I'll give you that.

Partially because Cruise actually does the jumping. In his zone, Cruise is pretty good.

I'm not saying his movies are bad. I'm not saying that he didn't do a good job in many of them, or even a hell of a job (see A Few Good Men). I'm saying that they could be better with someone else.

*With the exception of Les Grossman, of course. Cruise nailed that role.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

It's supposed to be an unpopular opinion, not an asinine opinion.

THe amount of Chik-fil-a / chain restaurant worship on this website is palpable, unhealthy, and laughable.

I'll see you all in hell.

especially because chik-fil-a sucks

MODS BAN THIS MAN RIGHT NOW

I actually thought the orange on orange unis looked sweet

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Oh, now that we're there

Needs to be a part of our rotation. Its a great helmet, and that orange looks awesome under the lights at night.

And.... the matte maroon helmet needs to be our primary going forward.

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

It sooooo looks like 5 is sitting on the bench and getting blind-sided there.

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Looks like he's glad to be wearing black pants and not white ones.

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This thread is going to single-handedly zap my productiveness at work today

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Appears to be true already.

Bryan Stinespring was actually a solid offensive coordinator.

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Jim Weaver. Best AD in Tech history EVER.

Waho's suck
Uva swallows

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

C'mon, posting the stuff on here doesn't mean you actually believe it.

Waho's suck
Uva swallows

Except that's the point of these threads.

Opinions you have and believe that aren't going to be popular

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

Ah, I misinterpreted. I believed it to be Unpopular Opinions that maybe I've heard or existed, not necessarily subscribed to. Like a lot of threads, I was screwing around.

Waho's suck
Uva swallows

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Old town road and old town road remix suck ass

Bleeding burnt orange and chicago maroon

Now this one hurt. Honky Tonk Hip Hop is the future.

#38-0

The beat is fire. The vocals and lyrics are garbage.

Twitter me

John Wick is an average action film

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

The movie is ok but the gun play is 👌🏻

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I do not like country music. It is not good.

Go Hokies!

Some country is really good. Other country, specifically pop country, is possibly the worst form of music on the planet

"That kid you're talking to right there, I think he played his nuts off! And you can quote me on that shit!" -Bud Foster

"Sooner or later, if man is ever to be worthy of his destiny, we must fill our heart with tolerance."
-Stan Lee

"Never half-ass two things. Whole-ass one thing."
-Ron Swanson

"11-0, bro"
-Hunter Carpenter (probably)

Love that video and I also love country music. It has sucked to see artists you liked just change to complete pop country based off what is popular in Nashville.

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

People complaining about Skeiro: Shadows Die Twice is too difficult and needs an easy mode never played an Atari, NES, Genesis, or SNES game ever (note: not talking about accessibility like controllers for handicap, colorblind mode, etc. that's something completely different and shouldn't be argued).

Sporting events are Cosplay Conventions for jockeys as Comic-Con, Otakon, and etc. are for Geeks.

"Oi! What's a Horkie"
"I am ya Grot!"

"Horkies were made for two fings foighten' and winnen'" - Horkie Warboss

"That Gritty git doesn't exactly look like a Horkie, but by Gork and Mork it acts like one!"-Random Horkie Boy

Seriously. Older games physically couldn't have as much data on them as well as if you had no multiplayer or internet, they needed to make them last longer so customer felt satisfied and got their money's worth. Therefore, they made them much harder. Also, all the arcade games would be made just possible to beat in order to get people to put in more and more quarters. Now a days, you don't really need to hold on to the audience like that.

Am I the only one who has absolutely no idea WTF Horkie is talking about? There's not one single sentence in his entire post I understand in the least.

Someone enlighten me?

Not funny. Not funny. And now the baby is upset.

New game out that is hard, people complain its hard, studio always makes hard games so not sure why everyone complaining now.

Oh. Thank you.

Not funny. Not funny. And now the baby is upset.

*cracks Beardknuckles*
Pop music today is just a bunch of uninteresting vowels and phrases with some screeching baby robot animals interspersed every now and then, and guitar solos (or solos of any instrument, really) are more interesting to listen to than a singer.

John Mayer stole the show at the Concert for Virginia Tech and is one of the best guitarists active in music today.

Said this on here before but I always love seeing the reactions: I don't find Emma Watson attractive.

Turkey is overrated as a meat. (Except for the stadium legs...those are that dam truth)

So is Southwest fare. Keep your Moes, your Chipotle, your Qdoba, even your Taco Bell. Keep it all.

The Big Bang Theory isn't remotely funny.

These should keep y'all occupied for a while.

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

The Big Bang Theory isn't remotely funny.

Man, its awful. The videos on YouTube where the laugh track is removed show just how completely unfunny that show is. All it does is pander to those who laugh when told to laugh.

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

I don't think it is that unpopular to say that John Mayer is one of the best guitarist active today. He is uber talented. Just watch some of his extremely early YouTube videos when he was playing in record stores and smaller videos.

Oh and Turkey is difficult to cook. It is almost always dry unless you cook breast and legs separately or you drop it in a deep fryer. Not that unpopular of an opinion. The side dishes and leftovers with the turkey are what makes it good.

Edit: Going through the rest of your list, I don't find a single one of these opinions as unpopular. Big Bang Theory is universally known as not a good tv show. Southwest/Mexican fast food is not there to be great food, it is there to provide a lot of calories, quick and cheap.

The Big Bang Theory isn't remotely funny

I couldn't agree any more. That show is so cringe worthy bad and unfunny.

Bleeding burnt orange and chicago maroon

We're all getting "unpopular" and "wrong" really confused in this thread

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I mean I can see how other people would find her attractive, I just don't. Look at it this way, that's one less person for competition....

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

I am Robin Hood and these are my Merry Men!

Feygeles?

No we're straight.

I'm just saying if you were at a bar and lets just say you were Single Beard and there was no Lady Beard and Emma Watson came on to you, i don't think you're saying "nah i'm ok"

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The question was "is she hot?" not "would you do her?"

Respect the game.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

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lol they were ruthless toward Hilary Swank that episode

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

Pop music - agreed

Mayer - didn't see the concert, but dude's incredible on guitar. If you're not familiar, look up Dead & Company.

Emma - agree to disagree

Turkey- THANK YOU!

Southwest far - ur wrong

Big Bang Theory - terrible show, only terrible people watch it

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

I'm pretty sure nobody eats turkey outside of deli meat and holidays. I can't even recall seeing it on a restaurant menu anywhere in the last 5 years. I don't see how it could possibly be overrated.

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Poorly cooked turkey is dry and bad. Wet brined turkey is bland and flavorless. Dry brined, properly cooked turkey is very good, especially as a vessel for gravy consumption.

You are just wrong on southwestern food.

The keyword you mention is vessel. Turkey can be no more than a vessel. Whether that is for stuffing, cranberry, mash potatoes, gravy, various casseroles and the other wonderful thanksgiving sides.

Turkey is an AVENUE to all of that. It's your excuse. Those things rely on the turkey. They don't happen together without it.

Smoked turkey is a thing to be cherished and celebrated

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I would probably eat stuffing or gravy without the turkey

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I'm pretty sure this is a highly popular opinion.

Soundgarden is trash
Moe's > Chipotle
I don't get the hype around Stranger Things

Soundgaren is trash. You are something else you know that

When in doubt. Nap it out

Leg for telling me to f*** off in the nicest way possible lol

Man, that Soundgarden take...

Danny Coale Caught That Ball!!!

Would buying you a drink in real life if we were to ever bump into each other somehow salvage any chance at friendship??

Sure! Second round is on me.

For the record, I still don't approve of this Soundgarden take but I am willing to try and move past it. Haha.

Danny Coale Caught That Ball!!!

And I will never utter that opinion out loud again. I had honestly never told anyone that because I am aware of the outrage it would cause lol

"Soundgarden is trash", bless your heart, are you aware how wrong you are?

I like to think that I live in a constant state of blissful unawareness

FTR, I'm the only person to upvote you because these opinions are all correct and everyone else is stupid.

"They'd rather win football games, you'd rather be sophisticated. Go like baseball loser."
-Colin Cowherd

#ALLMAROONEVERYTHING

Leg back at ya.

The DVs are all good though, you don't post what I posted without acknowledging the potential sh*tstorm that could ensue. Community Guidelines be damned, I sat on the post button for a good 5 minutes over that one

I don't think it's a big deal when someone says 'Va Tech'

Come at me bro

"That kid you're talking to right there, I think he played his nuts off! And you can quote me on that shit!" -Bud Foster

V-Tech is worse than Va Tech

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I'm also not a big fan of the phrase "Virginia Tech University", but usually I let it slide since, you know, recruiting.

They're both stupid.

No one has ever said "Gah Tech", so why "Va Tech"? Is avoiding the extra syllable in Virginia really that much of a time saver over the two syllables in Georgia?

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That's a red herring and honestly fuck them anyway, nobody talks about Georgia Tech. After moving up here to Michigan I like Va Tech more and more because I've realized it's a short and easy way that a lot of people talk about us. We don't need to be the same as Texas Tech or Georgia Tech, and we'll never just be Tech anywhere outside of the mid-Atlantic. Saying "Virginia Tech" outloud every time to reference us is a pain in the butt and it does NOT roll off the tongue. I am all in favor of us being call Va Tech or VPI or VT nationally.

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Saying "Virginia Tech" outloud every time to reference us is a pain in the butt

It's that much of a hindrance? Damn, I wish my time was worth that much money.

I feel like VTech isn't good because "vee" can be confused with some many other letters that hard of hearing people like myself don't catch.

I certainly would not want to say VTech and be confused with the Vermont Tech Knights and their amazing Dressage Team

You will see this game, this upset and this sign next on ESPN Sportscenter. Virginia Tech 31 Miami 7

Double the syllables and definitely hard for me to say without forcing myself to annunciate properly

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They are both WRONG!!

My main issue with VA Tech is that Va is not a fricking state!!!

My issue with VTech is I think about the company that makes electronics.

2 time Longwood grad married to a Hokie.


Well, this is awkward...

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Smh, already wearing aTm colors.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

true story.... those were never worn in a game. They were made for the yearly photoshoot so people would know the player went to VT.

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

While the picture of Bruce is just too good to pass up, you're right about the uniforms (the game jerseys didn't have VA TECH on them). Still, it's not as if VA TECH is just something announcers just made up on the fly-
The end zones from this game

For an abbreviation, "VT" would be ideal. But outrage over the "VA Tech" is a bit over the top. It's like getting irked over being called the "fighting gobblers", or angry when a kickin' Chicken or old "TV" logo or the "VTHokies" end zone pops on the screen.

YUP!
How many times do you hear OK State. Or Penn State. Or Cal or Pitt. (It's on their helmets!)
VA is short form for Virginia. Just like the other examples.

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

My issue is not seeing VA Tech-- a lot of the old stuff is really cool. Yes VA is the abbreviation, that's fine. My problem is when announcers say "Vah Tech." They never say "Gah Tech/ GA Tech..."

2 time Longwood grad married to a Hokie.

Again nobody cares about gah tech. That's a dumb reason to not like it. Would you be ok if it was Virg Tech? I think that sounds awful

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That does sound awful.....

2 time Longwood grad married to a Hokie.

Unpopular opinion. Limp Bizkit is pretty good

When in doubt. Nap it out

At what?

Being a fraternity hazing game.

Just kidding that's beyond disgusting.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

Bout to blow this thread up!

Emma Watson isn't remotely cute or sexy....

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Drink. The Beard already said that above.

Although you are both wrong

Can't be stated enough...

1) French has the best food opinions

2) Top Gun is an incredibly crappy movie, and Iron Eagle is a far superior jet aircraft movie

3) While I love the NFL draft as a consumer of the product, the draft and the salary cap should be done away with. If I am the best at what I do coming out of college, and multiple organizations want my services, I should be able to select which employer I want to work for and my salary should be based on what they are willing to pay me, not some arbitrary cap that doesn't correlate to my performance or the revenue generated by my employer.

4) The only way to create a true college football champion is to have a 16 team playoff, and every conference champion gets an automatic slot.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

I'm with you on 4)

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Love Iron Eagle because Louis Gossett, Jr.

16 Team play off -- right on...

Well you got one out of four right, that's not horrible.

"Don't go to, go through"

4) The only way to create a true college football champion is to have a 16 team playoff, and every conference champion gets an automatic slot.

You don't need to expand to 16 to include all conference champs.

“You got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

10 teams, 6 play ins. I don't believe in byes.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

I would argue that byes are preferable to at-larges.

“You got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

I'm very disappointed that someone named "French" has a hatred for cheese. Cheese (along with butter) are staples in French cooking and cuisine.

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

As I was bored and the wife was out of town this past weekend, I marathoned all four Iron Eagle movies.

Never Forget #1 Overall Seed UVA 54, #64 UMBC 74

A fine choice

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

4) Why not an 8 team play off with 5 auto bids to P5 champs, 1 auto to G5, and 3 at large?

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Because if you win your conference, you should play for a national championship.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

The best teams should play for a national title. Not bad teams that win their conference.

It's Time to go to Work

If they are the best teams, they will show up each week and end up winning their conference. No days off. No games off. No Oops. Win and you're in.

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Yes because 2010 UConn was one of the best teams. There are plenty of teams that don't win conference titles that are better than teams that do.

It's Time to go to Work

Football. Football here. I'd guess less than 50% of the National title winners in basketball won their conferences...

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Nobody is talking about basketball. This is what I'm referencing. I invite you to read a bit about it and try again.

It's Time to go to Work

Is the Big East still a football conference? Power 5! UConn isn't a part of that. And there was a different system practically a decade ago.

Here's some current reading for you...

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Disagree. There are typically only 8-10 teams that really have a shot of winning the NC going into the season, let alone at the end. There really has only been one time when a team had legit beef for being left out of the 4 team playoff, which was OK St a few years ago, and that argument had holes in it.

I want to see the best teams play. I dont' want to see Alabama or Clemson have to play Bowling Green or Texas State only to have a star player get hurt which could potentially take away from the big-time matchup(s) we all really want to see.

3) If the teams were treated more as individual employers, I don't know, but I would think they would have to change how their NFL players union is set up.

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2) Top Gun is an incredibly crappy movie, and Iron Eagle is a far superior jet aircraft movie

Any love for Flight of the Intruder?

Read the book and then saw the movie. Book is insanely good. A lot of very real content included in the story. Those guys that did that job didn't get enough credit.
Then, Hollywood trying to match that in a movie is just hard and result was meh to me.
The inclusion of the A-1 SkyRaiders in the movie was great tho.

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

Love it

Never Forget #1 Overall Seed UVA 54, #64 UMBC 74

THE BEST jet movie!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Tool > Led Zeppelin

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

YESSSSSS THIS MAN KNOWS!!!!

When in doubt. Nap it out

Unpopular Tool Opinion 10'000 days>Lateralus

When in doubt. Nap it out

I'd have to think about that one for a while

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

I agree completely.

“You got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

oof. I could overlook the AC/DC thing up thread because their music is a bit simple, but....this one. Just oof.

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

Led Zeppelin is not even the best 70s band

When in doubt. Nap it out

You're right, they're the best band period. Like....okay, let me put it like this. I don't know if Primus is your number one jam anymore, but LZ will always be my Primus (or whoever your big fave is now). They're the best. Even if the rest of their catalog sucked which it doesn't, Rock and Roll off Zoso is the greatest song ever written in the history of time and can't be topped. Forget who it might've been paying tribute to or ripping off or whatever other thing the haters might bring up. It's impossible to hear that song and not be happy. Drums at the beginning to signal the coming maelstrom, catchy riff, loud, driving rhythm, guitar solo that's not too long or too short dropped in the middle like a little slice of heaven, vocals that you can easily scream out yourself if you don't like the way Robert does it, John Paul hammering away at the piano like a madman in the 2nd half of the song, a short but unforgettable drum break and then a big slambang over the top finish....I mean come on. For someone like me that struggled mightily with depression and being happy in general for all of his teenage years...that song saved my life. LZ saved my life.

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

Ehhh Led Zeppelin is good but Pink Floyd Rush The Who and King Crimson is just better in my opinion

When in doubt. Nap it out

Also ever since I started listening to primus they will always be a tie for my favorite band with tool. My username came down to what would sound better APrimusHokie or ATooLHokie. I think APrimus sounds better

When in doubt. Nap it out

Pink Floyd are their equals, I'd put the other 3 a tier or two beneath

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

King Crimson is the shit

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Indeed they are

When in doubt. Nap it out

Blood rack Barbed wire
Politician's funeral pyre
Innocences raped with napalm fire
Twenty first century schizoid man

When in doubt. Nap it out

Unpopular LZ opinion: In Through The Out Door is their best album.

I don't care why anyone thinks it isn't. That shit flips my skirt.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

I haven't hear of that album what songs are on that one?

When in doubt. Nap it out

Fool in the Rain, In the Evening, Carouselambra, Hot Dog, All My Love, I'm Gonna Crawl...and 1 or 2 others I can't remember. Notable for being their last album, the only album in which John Paul Jones plays keyboards on all the songs instead of bass.....and for flipping APFOW's skirt, apparently.

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

While on the Topic unpopular opinion Fool in the rain is a boring song

When in doubt. Nap it out

My favorite Led song is When the levee breaks

When in doubt. Nap it out

Mine as well.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Bad Ass blues song, one of my favorites. But your original opinion is WRONG!!!! Zep head for life.

Nah I'm with you, give me practically every other song on ITTOD over it. Outside of the breakdown in the middle it's a snoozer.

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

Unpopular LZ opinion that might actually be somewhat popular: Achilles Last Stand is leagues better as an epic anthem than Stairway

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

So true.

I'm not saying Led Zeppelin isn't great, they are...but Tool is better

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Not sure how unpopular this is, because it's true. Their cover of No Quarter is better than the original

Yea it is

When in doubt. Nap it out

No Quarter was written for Tool 17 years before the bands formation. Fact.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Both are great bands. But Zeppelin is an easier listen.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

The best thing that Tool ever did is make an homage to the greatest band of all time.

Though, to be fair, it was a nice tribute.

If Tool could could produce an album a little more frequently I might agree... allegedly there's one on the way, but 13 freaking years between releases? C'mon. Zep was cranking out (really good) albums in their sleep.

NOw you've gone too far

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In-N-Out is way overrated

As someone that has a Shake Shack, an In-N-Out, and a Five Guys within 10 minutes of my home, I will pick Shake Shack every time.

I approve this opinion.

Most disappointing fast food experience of my lifetime was my first visit to an In and Out Burger. The meat tasted like McDonalds. Everything else was mediocre, and there was a huge wait.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

My top three fast food burger chains:

  1. Shake Shack
  2. 5Guys
  3. In-N-Out

IMO Shake Shack is miles ahead, 5Gs is as solid and consistent, and I do love a double double animal style... I also have to say, the new McD's never-frozen burgers are pretty good. Does that invalidate everything I just said?

1) Pals
2) Pals
3) Pals

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Pals is a must anytime I'm in Bristol area.

Virginia Tech will never win a football or basketball national championship.

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Oooof

When in doubt. Nap it out

Virginia Tech will never win a football or basketball national championship with Fuente as head coach.

FTFY

Virginia Tech will never win a football or basketball national championship with Fuente as head coach A budget in the bottom half of the ACC.

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Awesome and yet our overall budget sits at the bottom half, and when looking at teams that have won a NC since the BCS started we aren't even close.

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No ACC school spends a greater percentage of their athletic department budget on football than Virginia Tech. In fact, they rank No. 2 in the country among power-five schools in prioritizing football, trailing only Alabama.

It's helped the Hokies to bowl games for 24 consecutive years, which is considered the longest active streak by the NCAA. The Hokies are the biggest spenders in the ACC's Coastal Division, and like Florida State and Southern California, they report putting every dollar made by athletics back into sports.

Looks pretty good to me. I'd like more people to contribute, too. But there are so many excuses NOT to. "Hey, we play Liberty." "Hey, we lost to ODU last year." "Hey, we made the Sweet Sixteen, but our basketball coach left." "Hey, I'd donate, but Fuente doesn't share enough information. He doesn't televise the Spring Game."

It's not easy to stick to it through thick and thin. Tiger Woods won the Masters today. Wasn't because it was easy to win that 5th jacket. Wasn't easier to win the jacket than to make excuses. Was harder.

We've been doing more with less throughout the history of the program. I guess we'll have to keep doing that.

Ok so we don't spend enough on women's lacrosse. Shed a tear and move on. We spend enough in football that we should be competing

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Based on what? Coaching staff salaries are in 25-35 range. Merryman is stuck in the 80's (except for recently renovated lower levels) there is no room for expansion of practice fields with Stadium Woods. We have no new dorms for athletes etc. these are things that don't all fall under a schools football onto budget but do help recruit and win.

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We are building brand new dorms right now. We are building a brand new state of the art nutrition and weight lifting facility right now. We are behind the curve and we don't have golf simulators and lazy rivers but we have enough. What we lack is recent success and anyone capable of selling our school to talented football players.

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There are lots of great long term things that were talked about at the annual meeting. But Tech has fallen behind schools that people want to be peers with on the field. As for rescuers I see plenty of talent coming in on the offensive side. So I'm not sure many people will accept Foster and Wiles needing to be replaced since that's where the biggest talent deficits has been, the defense.

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For 1 year where Bud went through health and personal issues. We still haven't had a good runningback since DW. Dragon was close but he had obvious issues before he was ran out of town. Fuente hasn't shown that he can develop a quarterback. Our line has some serious beef coming in but this season it's going to be a huge problem.

2 of our highest recruits in recent memory have been on Fosters side of the ball. He needs to bring in better DTs but our defense suffered because of its own success. Without having so many kids go to the draft early last season would have been much better off

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Fuente hasn't shown that he can develop a quarterback

Honestly I have no idea how VT fans would come to this conclusion. Did you miss the season where Jerod Evans rewrote the school record books and put up comparable numbers to Heisman Trophy winner Lamar Jackson? Or the next season when redshirt freshman Josh Jackson, a mid-range 3* developmental QB, had a better passing rating than Bryan Randall's 2004 ACC PoY season? Or the next season where a transfer walk-on backup QB, who had a career passer rating of 104.4, 5.9 YPA, and a 11:17 TD to INT ratio, improved to a passer rating of 138, 7.5 YPA, and a 24:9 TD to INT ratio?

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

Developing means improvement not results

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redshirt freshman Josh Jackson, a mid-range 3* developmental QB, had a better passing rating than Bryan Randall's 2004 ACC PoY season

a transfer walk-on backup QB, who had a career passer rating of 104.4, 5.9 YPA, and a 11:17 TD to INT ratio, improved to a passer rating of 138, 7.5 YPA, and a 24:9 TD to INT ratio

Seriously though, your argument is really going to be that the results are satisfactory but we haven't seen enough improvement when Fuente hasn't had a single season with the previous year's starter available?

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

First, as has been pointed out several times, we're getting plenty of defenders at the top of our recruiting classes.

Second, RB is arguably as big of a deficit as anything we've seen lacking on defense, DT included.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

Looking at list of top overall recruits I see an almost equal mix of defense and offense. Payoute, Patterson, Several OL, Turner.

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I don't disagree. I just don't see why you always rush to bash on the defensive coaches to defend Fuente in these conversations. We've had a very poor run of luck/preparation when it comes to the DT position, but aside from that I don't see where there is damning evidence against the defense. No worse than our inability to close on any of these running backs that were supposed to highlight the class.

2019 - 2 of the top 5 were on defense (Vice killed it).
2018 - 3 of the top 5 were on defense.
2017 - 4 of the top 5 were on defense.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

Failure to get a top RB (although King is going to be really good) is a huge flag against Fuente and the offensive staff. But I can't say that I can ignore Wiles and Fosters repeat failure to bring in top DL, and a big part for both positions is scheme. RB recruits aren't seeing what they want out of the offense and DL recruits aren't seeing a path to the NFL out of Fosters DL use.

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I can see why people (myself included) almost want to divide this up into two teams, offense and defense. But let's not forget. Fuente is the head ball coach. The buck doesn't stop with Bud and Wiles for the DT issue. It may be due to scheme, fit, poor sales pitch from them, or whatever, but Fuente's name comes first on the websites and programs for a reason.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

Sort of but Fuente gives Bud free rein to run his defense. This also isn't a new problem for Foster every year it takes special upperclassmen to keep the DL effective, and the waning years under Beamer really hurt the entire teams depth and talent levels.

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What we lack is recent success and anyone capable of selling our school to talented football players.

Yet our last three classes were ranked 26th, 24th, and 26th, respectively. So they must be doing something right.

I don't want to wear the black hat, but this years recruiting rankings will not be in line with those figures

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Virginia Tech will never win a football or basketball national championship with Fuente as head coach.

FTFY

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Both are correct.

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When UVA won the game Monday night, I turned to my buddy and said the same thing. I wasn't mad that they won, I was sad because if I'm honest with myself I don't think we will ever experience that.

Stranger Things > Game of Thrones > Walking Dead
or
Game of Thrones > Walking Dead > Stranger Things
or
Walking Dead > Game of Thrones > Stranger Things

"Take care of the little things and the big things will come."

Better Call Saul > Breaking Bad

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

WTF?

Better call Saul is just... different. Very good, but not really comparable to Breaking Bad.

I would say Better Call Saul = Breaking Bad

Both genius television in their own way.

This is actually closer to my real feelings. I just find BCS more enjoyable to watch of the two shows.

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

Breaking Bad is just the plot line of The Sopranos written around different characters.

15 Straight

This can't be a real opinion that you truly believe

Game of Thrones > Walking Dead > Stranger Things,

But Stranger Things shouldn't even be in this conversation. I mean, it's a fun watch, but not in the same category.

The new era of these massive online video games suck. It was much, much better when developers focused on single player stories or campaigns and then released DLC to add on to those single player stories. These online only games are lazily developed money grabs aimed at nickel and diming young kids whose parents don't pay attention enough to know they're spending hundreds on useless bullshit that will be thrown away the second the next 'fad' game comes out.

Talking about you, Call of Duty, Fortnite, Battlefields, Anthem, etc. Oh, and lets not forget about all DLC for GTA V and RDR2. Yeah, you made an excellent single player. Good job, but your releases after the fact have all been microtransaction bullshit.

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

PS2 games are still 10x better than anything nowadays

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This is categorically false. There are some great PS2 games but there have been a few excellent games that have come out more recently.

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Devil May Cry on PS2 was one of the best single player games ever made. And Socom 2 online was better than Halo or any of the COD games since because it forced you to have skill, strategy, and teamwork, not just run and gun nonstop.

The PVP in Call of Duty, Halo, and Socom is so different it's hard to compare them. They all give you different vibes. I get the appeal of teamwork though. That is one of the aspects that made Destiny raids so much fun to run. When you had a raid group that worked really well together it just made for a phenomenal experience.

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The Last of US and God of War are the two best games I've ever played. Those developers poured their souls into those games.

To add in some really good games not are not just Online Multiplayer.
Horizon Zero Dawn, Persona 5, Nier Automata, Tales of Berseria, Valkyria Chronicles 4, LoZ: Breath of the Wild, Super Mario Odyssey, Xenoblade Chronicles 1 and 2, Total War Warhammer 1 and 2, The Witcher 3, DOOM (2016), Two Point Hospital, Undertale, South Park: The Stick of Truth, South Park: The Fractured But Whole, We Happy Few, Cuphead, Marvel's Spider-Man, Bloodbourne, Dark Souls, and Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice.

"Oi! What's a Horkie"
"I am ya Grot!"

"Horkies were made for two fings foighten' and winnen'" - Horkie Warboss

"That Gritty git doesn't exactly look like a Horkie, but by Gork and Mork it acts like one!"-Random Horkie Boy

Oh yeah, Bloodborne and Dark Souls too. Especially Bloodborne. Just amazing from start to finish.

Sekiro is excellent as well. The combat style is very different but it feels extremely rewarding and I love the feudal Japan theme.

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So I've heard. Unfortunately, I'm not really a fan of the japanese theme.

It is hilarious to see one of these "gamers" have to play Ghosts N Goblins on NES and have a complete meltdown when they can't beat the second level.

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Second level??? I couldn't get past the 1st 4 jumping skeletons in the first level right at the very beginning!

Hit them with something more difficult, Battletoads.

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"I am ya Grot!"

"Horkies were made for two fings foighten' and winnen'" - Horkie Warboss

"That Gritty git doesn't exactly look like a Horkie, but by Gork and Mork it acts like one!"-Random Horkie Boy

Which is really just this song in 8 bit form

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

Top Gun

I agree, but hard doesn't mean good.

Agreed with your point as a whole, but curious you lament lack of single player story and then mention RDR2. The story in that game is phenomenal. Easily one of the best pieces of entertainment media I have ever consumed.

The fact that the multiplayer aspect gets the attention now doesn't take away from the fact that the single player game was excellent.

Agreed, same with GTAV, but that doesn't mean I still can't be frustrated that after the release they only focus on multiplayer

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

I think the vast majority of video game players agree with the anti-microtransaction sentiment.

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Video games, movies, and binge watching shows are an incredible waste of time and the world is worse for having normalized the idea of sitting in front of a screen for hours on end.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

*Me Nodding while he sits down to watch another episode of Billions*

I love this show...midway through 2nd season

Fortnite Apex and other battle royal games are actually great for socialization and group working together skills.

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😑

When in doubt. Nap it out

Tell that to the guy who called me a motherfucking bitch for not grabbing his banner while I was getting shot

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

😅😅😅😅 that damn reboot card

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I said I was sorry!

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Virginia Tech's fundraising will never significantly improve. Our young alumni are too responsible with their money to give back to a school they've already invested way too much into. And our older alumni who could give are too used to getting anything they want for free that they have no incentive to give. And any improvement we actually make will be offset by bigger improvements at other schools, putting us further behind than we originally were.

Because of this, its unlikely we will ever see us compete for and win a National Title in any major sport in any of our lifetimes. 1999 was the closest we will ever get to a major national championship.

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

Case in point Purdue is going to pay their football coach more than our basketball AND football coach combined.

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This is incorrect. When I win the Powerball at over 1 billion, i will give money to a school that i did not graduate from to specifically put money into the football program..the field will be called "HokieHighlander Field"...

I know 'significant' is a subjective term, but I would say it's already improved a significant amount. It needs to improve another significant amount though from where it is now.

I'm not ready to write it off, but it will take time. Hard to change this overnight as donations are mostly an emotional response, for most folks. They need to continue to try to change the mindset of the older alumni, but the more foundational change will be changing the mindset before students graduate and getting them used to donating. That provides more stability but it's a long game. I'm actually surprised how much improvement there has been so far and am hoping it is sustainable.

Virginia Tech's fundraising has ALREADY significantly improved.

But your underlying reasoning on fundraising isn't all that far off.

Also, it would have been easier to compete for a national championship before the money was as big as it is now.

I disagree with your conclusion that money is the only factor in a national championship. You can also get lucky like UVa just did. Much easier in basketball.

If you don't think UVa invested heavily into basketball to get where they are, I'm not sure what to tell you. Yes, they were given very large gifts to jump start their program, (and to build the arena and round out their coaching staff and recruiting efforts) but those gifts come from working your ass off in fundraising. They do, and they get results.

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

I wasn't saying that UVA didn't invest in basketball. The point is that there are schools that have a LOT more money. Virginia has right-sized their basketball investment. They've also done that in football, so we need to get our act together, all around.

But since you brought it up, in just a few decades we've gone from raising a lot less than what they raise, to being in a similar category of fundraising. It does take time, but Whit has done an excellent job of improving fundraising.

To get to where you're going, you have to understand where you came from.

Additionally the school is too far away for most to continue to feel connected, the spirit and support throughout the state aren't as prolific and part of the identity as other schools/states, we produce a lot of upper middle class but very few alumni with fuck you money, the Hokie club is butt, everyone's attendance and donations will go down as tv is a better experience nowadays.

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1. Ketchup is awful. Its an abomination to tomatoes

2. Ordering avocado toast at a restaurant is stupid. I can understand making it at home, but the fact that I'm going to pay someone to serve it to me is insane

3. Diet Soda tastes better than regular

All soda is nasty unless it's cut significantly with alcohol. Agreed on the rest. Wouldn't even buy an avocado in any situation though.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

No soda is great, but diet soda is an abomination to beverages.

Dish out all the sugar free hatorade you want! It's what I like

Whenever I'm in a drive through line, and the person in front of me has a long animated discussion with the employee at the window, I know I'm in for a wait that doesn't deserve the title "fast food", and I wish they'd ask that person to pull into a parking space and wait for the "have it your way" fast food experience.

Seriously people, chick-fil-a essentially has three menu items. What in the world are you discussing up there? I have places to be.

Exactly.

I enjoy it when a recruiting thread has more discussion about anything not related to recruiting

Yes, it's the best place for long discussions about how we suck, and will always suck, and that our coach sucks, recruiting sucks, and that it's all about money and we can't raise any money.

Because recruits will probably visit, and it's good to keep them updated on all that.

Leggings are not pants.

but they're okay in my books

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

When the right person is wearing anything, the rules are irrelevant. That does not mean everyone is the right person.

But yoga pants are the best pants.

I'm...happy for UVA that they won the BB NC. They deserved it.

*ducks*

Dcwilson makes excellent posts and is a very effective communicator with his bluntness. The shitstorms it causes are fun.

I enjoy them.

You will see this game, this upset and this sign next on ESPN Sportscenter. Virginia Tech 31 Miami 7

He often has shitty attitude, but a lot of the mob just doesn't want to hear the truth without a positive spin out on it

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1. Friends was a terrible TV show.

2. IPA's are nasty. They taste like pine cones soaking in cough syrup.

3. Flo, from the GeicoProgressive commercials is pretty hot.

“You got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

With you until #3. That's a repulsive woman who just happens to have hips.

And isn't she in the Progressive commercials?

Yes, progressive. I may be a wierdo, I am definitely NOT into geckos. Nice catch.

“You got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

I don't know...I'm a sucker for an accent, and we all know the gecko has a sexy one. /s

I don't even care that she has hips. The Flogressive ads are like nails on a chalkboard, and always have been.

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

I think The Rise of SkyWalker will be a decent movie (and I'm glad it ends the saga).

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

Unpopular Primus opinion Antipop is their best album

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Scholarship college athletes should not be paid. They are already paid in tuition that most other students spend at least a decade (sometimes more) paying off.

Considering I had to go on a few "field trips" with Uncle Sam to be able to pay for school, this will always be my take.

Are superstar athletes being exploited?

You bet your ass they are.

But at the end of the day, they can get their degree, and many times multiple degrees with summer sessions, before they are done with their eligibility while others are getting their asses shot off to get the same thing.

So, you'll please excuse me when my eyes roll straight the fuck out of my head anytime someone screams about them not being paid.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

^^^ This is also the other side of that coin. Many who aren't in debt from their education have risked their lives for it. "Institutions of higher learning" are making a lot of money off of college athletics. That's the core problem - not that athletes aren't getting paychecks.

Most institutions of higher learning are barely breaking even on their athletics programs.

They're spending a lot too then. This is a valid point - I'm not arguing with you.

Everyone arguing for player pay is looking at these gross revenue numbers though. That's the only reason I mention it.

One reason that they're able to spend so much on things like facilities, coaching salaries, etc., is that big-time college athletics is currently closer to indentured servitude than a free market. If they actually had to compensate the players at market value, Clemson probably wouldn't have had the ability to spend $55M on a new football facility, at least not without finding a bunch of new revenue.

"Those who jump into the void owe no explanation to those who stand and watch."
--unknown

So? They get a lot of money from student research as well.

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Scholarship college athletes [...] are already paid in tuition

Counterpoint: Who are you to decide how much someone else should get paid? Why don't we let the market decide? Would you be okay if random message board posters got to decide your salary, knowing little or nothing about the value you provide to your employer? And yet a significant majority of message board posters, most of whom never played college or professional sports, somehow feel qualified to make exactly that determination.

As for the argument that there isn't money to "pay" players:

Media companies like Disney, CBS, and Fox make billions off of college sports.
Apparel companies like Nike, UA, and Reebok make billions off of college sports.
Game companies like EA make (or made) millions-to-billions off of college sports.
The NCAA makes nearly a billion dollars on the bball tourney alone, and a few hundred million more from licensing royalties.
Athletic departments/universities make tens to hundreds of millions off of college sports.
Corporate sponsors make millions through their affiliation with college sporting events.
Top college football and basketball coaches make millions. Lesser coaches make hundreds of thousands.
College football bowl execs make hundreds of thousands for what amounts to a few weeks' work.

Notice the one group missing from that list? It's the one that actually contributes the most value to the entire ecosystem. Money isn't the issue, it's the allocation of money that's a problem.

I'm not necessarily advocating for a salary to be paid to college athletes (although I'm not opposed; more below). I'm more of the mind that they should be allowed to pursue endorsement deals, and should be fairly compensated for their likeness. If ESPN, Nike, EA, or the local Cadillac dealership feature a college athlete while advertising their product, that athlete deserves a fair share, where "fair" is determined by the market, not school administrators, NCAA bureaucrats, or internet message boards.

And since it's an unpopular opinion thread: I would actually approve of a salary being paid in lieu of a scholarship, at the player's choice, with the requirement that if you take the scholarship then you have to meet the same academic standards as all other students at the school (i.e., no more NCAA minimums). I'd let the school set salaries, and presumably for most players they wouldn't actually exceed the value of a scholarship, but again, I think the market should decide. This way, players who have no business being admitted to a particular school can still pursue their dream of playing in the NFL/NBA, at the school of their choice, while earning enough money to attend a school for which they are academically suited.

"Those who jump into the void owe no explanation to those who stand and watch."
--unknown

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

Millennials are actually doing some really cool. innovative things, and don't deserve to be shat on by previous generations.

Twitter me

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

As a CFP(r) who follows such things for a living, the millennial generation (of which I technically am a member), does a much better job of saving and fiscal responsibility than Boomers. They also act much less entitled than previous generations that crap on them.

I hope they all retire.

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Danny Coale Caught That Ball!!!

Nice teeth, and I suppose, breath.

Fun thing to do: next time you see a headline that says "Millennials", replace it with "Adults under 40" and see how ridiculous it sounds.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I'm torn on this one because my older brother and I hate our generation (I think we're considered millennials being 31 and 27) but there are stupid articles that are clickbait "Millennials does(n't) ____".
Maybe it's just that 90 percent of my emotions is just some form of rage/anger during the day.

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Mich Ultra > Natty Light

Tyrod did it Mikey, Tyrod did it!!

Pellegrino > Perrier.

Country music is dead.

If you really want GREAT music check out Tyler Childers.

Tyrod did it Mikey, Tyrod did it!!

Mr. Simpson would like a word.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Also Cody jinks has something to say as well.

That said those guys I don't block in with country music I don't want that shit stain genre of trash associated with good music

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

I'm taking Jason Boland and the Stragglers out of the Red Dirt/Texas Country camp.

I still listen to some regular country but definitely have different playlists.

Tyler Childers is very good

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Country Music died the day Big N Rich released "Save a Horse"

Never Forget #1 Overall Seed UVA 54, #64 UMBC 74

I thought that was the day they proved their worth.

Forgot Colter Wall. He's a great one too. Throwback. Sounds a lot like Johnny Cash.

Tyrod did it Mikey, Tyrod did it!!

IPAs are for craft brewers that dont quite know what they are doing and for people that don't have proper functioning bitter taste buds.

Why is it every place has 7 IPAs, 4 Pale Ales, some peach/tangerine/fruit flavor beer which is just brewed with flavor syrup in it, and 1 porter. LEARN TO MAKE SOME TASTY BEERS!

Yeah, if a brewery doesn't have a proper trippel or an imperial stout (and they need to be done well, dammit), I'm not interested.

I typically like my beers to be pretty strong though.

I used to like IPAs, but that was when there were only a couple and it was a nice change-up.

Now it's difficult to get past all the various IPAs to get something with some flavor.

All American Beer is shit, haven't had a good beer since summer 2000 in Barcelona.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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The funny thing is, I think everyone has the opinion that their beer is boring/not as good and that imported beer is better. Have a good friend who is English, and when his family comes over they buy so much American beer and love it. Was also just in Germany/Austria and a local guy we met talked about his affinity for American beer. Obviously loves their own stuff, but was just fascinated with it. I guess it's all relative.

My German neighbor is here on a work visa and he says the variety and quality that we have blows Germany out of the water.

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Might I suggest Tree House Brewing Company, Belle's, Founders, and my fav Canadian Unibroue

I have drank dozens of different kinds of bear and it all has this acidic aftertaste I don't like. Same with wine.

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have drank dozens of different kinds of bear and it all has this acidic aftertaste

I don't even want to know.

Coffee is literally overpriced liquid shit

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

I've had one sip my 35.5 years on this earth and it's awful. It made for interesting nights as a cop and firefighter when everyone else is drinking it by the gallon.

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I've had one sip my 35.5 years on this earth and it's awful.

Well I've never watched an episode of Stranger Things, but I have seen a trailer, and that show is awful.

I'm not typically a down-voter, but you just hit a nerve

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

8 or 9 wins is the ceiling for the 2019 VT football season

Your far more optimistic than I

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

8 better be the floor with our schedule. 7 wins and I want a new coaching staff.

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Here is how I see it. Even if we win both of those I've listed as Toss Ups, that only gets us to 9 wins.

Game Prediction
Boston College Toss Up
ODU Win
Furman Win
Duke Win
Miami Loss
Rhode Island Win
UNC Win
Notre Dame Loss
Wake Forest Win
Georgia Tech Toss Up
Pittsburgh Loss
Virginia Win

I don't about GT being a toss up, they are sure to be in for some growing pains under a new coach, and getting away from the triple option

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

If in his 4th season, with his staff and his recruits we're still calling BC a toss up, expecting to lose to Pitt, are worried about GT after installing a full new style offense without the players to run that offense, and are expecting to lose to Miami, I'm not sure why we'd expect to win the ACC moving forward.

Somewhat related: the justifications of "oh well Dabo didn't win until _____" have to stop.

Because winning is a function of comment boards?

because Clemson isn't a justification of VT

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Fuente has had two good seasons and one bad one. And in the bad one, he still beat UVa and went to a bowl game. His recruiting classes were ranked 26th, 24th, and 26th according to 247.

You don't need a comparison with other programs to make a case for him.

I'm not sure if you're taking exception to outoftowner's reply regarding the expectations, or taking exception with his "somewhat related" sidenote about Clemson

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

When I read outoftowners comment, he seems to suggest that it's reasonable to judge Fuente based on our expectations of next season's outcomes. I haven't known the fan expectations in April to be an accurate predictor of the fall results.

That was what I was trying to say.

Okay yes, I agree.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Clearly I'm not speaking to our actual 2019 results. I'm speaking to expectations of success of the program overall. If we're still in this place where we're calling BC games a toss up and writing off games against Pitt, we're likely not in a good place with our staff for the long term if we want to compete in the worst P5 division on an annual basis.

I'm sure there's some data to back that claim up but the Pac12 as a whole is the biggest joke in college football, let alone their individual divisions.

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Just seems odd to judge staff on fan predicted outcomes.

Makes me think that maybe there isn't sufficient data to support the conclusion being drawn.

If we're still in this place where we're calling BC games a toss up and writing off games against Pitt, we're likely not in a good place with our staff for the long term

I have some really bad news for you. VT went 8-6 against BC from 2003-2015, which includes the 10-win season streak. VT went 1-3 against Pitt under Beamer after they joined the ACC (2012-2015), and lost 3 straight to Pitt from 2001-2003. Meanwhile, VT has gone 2-1 against Pitt under Fuente.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

It's the difference between what we've grown accustomed to expecting and where we need to be if we want to win titles. Outoftowner's comment history would indicate being of the "if you're not first, you're last"-type of mindset.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

2003 was 16 years ago. BC isn't close to the same program. We hear plenty of excuses why we can't beat certain programs - be it money, recruiting, etc. So what is the excuse here? We out-spend and out-recruit Pitt and BC, yet I am somehow out of line for not being content with those games being considered 'toss ups?' 2001-2003 Pitt results - 3 games almost 20 years ago - have what exactly to do with my expectations of Fuente and where our program is now? Pitt and BC should not be our benchmark.

Call it "if you're not first, your last" if you like, but a coach that gets us to 8-5 every year is the worst thing that could happen to VT football, in my eyes. I'm very afraid that's is potentially our future under this staff.

We haven't gone 8-5 every year under Fuente.

So... you're upset about Pitt and BC being arbitrarily considered "toss ups" in 2019 when we recently transitioned from a long-time Hall of Fame coach who hadn't won an ACC championship since 2010 and had 4 straight years with 7/8 wins prior to retiring, yet losing to those programs multiple times on the heels of a national championship appearance in 1999 was somehow more palatable? Forgive me for thinking that benchmark might be slightly miscalibrated.

As others have pointed out, Fuente currently has a 2-1 record against both of those programs. You are literally talking about a completely arbitrary assessment of our chances in a couple of games nearly 5 months before football season starts.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

he still beat UVa

Well, even Gabby Jay beat Glass Joe.

If you're reading the above post and thinking, "is this guy serious?!?," you can safely assume I'm not.

You haven't been following Virginia Tech football long enough if you are ever overly confident heading into a game against Pitt and a game at BC. We historically struggle with both those teams especially on the road, but heading into his fourth season, Fuente is 2-1 against both of them so he's done well. As far as the others you mentioned, I haven't seen any logical person on here overly worried about GT and Miami is a toss up. We've been in contention for the coastal 2 out of 3 years and took Clemson to the wire in the ACC chamionship game in '16. I get that last year sucked, but the sky is falling narrative is getting old after one bad year.

Edit: Because i know whats coming. Criticism is fine and warranted after last year, but we've got to look big picture and not let last year paint the entire picture for what Fuente has done so far at Tech.

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VT's preseason S&P+ ranking (based on 2018 year end S&P+, returning players, recruits, and attrition) is 30. Miami is 11 spots ahead of us, and UVA is 11 spots behind us. ND is at 14. Everyone else is (literally) at least 20 spots behind us. Thus, I'd recommend the following changes:

  • Miami should be a toss up - They're ranked 19, tate martell is reportedly having a bad spring, and their DL depth is worse than ours.
  • GT should be a win - Their S&P+ preseason #89, and that doesn't even account for the coaching change and schematic rebuild.
  • Pitt should be switched to win given how much they've lost. They're ranked 59th in the S&P+ preseason rankings.
  • UVA should be a toss up - they're the only 11 spots behind us at 41, and have momentum.

Barring further injury or attrition, more than 3 regular season losses is a bad season.

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If we're being honest it seems fairly obvious that you've already decided you want a new coaching staff.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

If we are successful against our easiest schedule since joining the ACC I will be all about it. You'll be content going 6-6?

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For me there's a significant difference between being content and firing the coaching staff. Also I don't agree that it's reasonable to judge a coaching in a vacuum based purely on wins and losses rather than considering the circumstances contributing to the results on the field. The Browns only had one winning season under Bill Belichick but it seems pretty obvious that firing him was a terrible decision.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

But is one over LOLUVA? If there was ever a year to continue the streak, this is it. I hope we win by 90.

You will see this game, this upset and this sign next on ESPN Sportscenter. Virginia Tech 31 Miami 7

Modern Warfare 2 > all the Halos combined

Vroom Vroom

Halo 3 was one of the best multiplayer games ever. MW2 isn't even the best Cod

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Culturally speaking, Virginia Tech is not imbued with a strong commitment/desire to win(ning) at the highest levels of Division 1 athletics. Decisions are primarily motivated by localized notions of what's "good enough" and emotional connections to the past. Hokie revenue sport programs aren't set up to be serious contenders for conference or national championships. Eventually, as more aggressive, forward thinking athletic departments further separate themselves by achievement and finance, a decision point will arise whereby VT will self-select out of top-tier competition.

(Same goes for the ACC under its' current leadership)

Yeah, well. Monkeys make shitty astronauts.

The doll's trying to kill me and the toaster's been laughing at me.

Is this really a thread? This is so easy to win.

Unpopular opinion:

LOLUVA ATHLETICS ARE BETTER THAN VIRGINIA TECH ATHLETICS.

/endthread

I think you're missing the point.

You should be giving an unpopular opinion that someone might actually have.

The doll's trying to kill me and the toaster's been laughing at me.

it's for opinions you yourself believe that you know the majority doesn't agree with.

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

Going on the theme of music: Tarja was just as limited vocally as Anette, just in the opposite direction.

Going on the theme of food: St Louis style pizza is superior to New York style

Going on the theme of movies: Kuzco was the best Disney princess and Casablanca was just ok...not legendary

Never Forget #1 Overall Seed UVA 54, #64 UMBC 74

Lol I remember Nightwish

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

They have a new lead singer, the best of the three vocalists. If you thought they were worth a listen then, I think you should give them a new listen, especially their live stuff. They still don't churn out an album as frequently as necessary to stay relevant, but what else could you expect from Finland.

Never Forget #1 Overall Seed UVA 54, #64 UMBC 74

Virginia Tech will be a basketball school in 20 years

My unpopular opinion: Football will no longer be the most popular sport in this country in 25 years so I could see most/all schools being "basketball schools" in 20 years.

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Unpopular opinion: I like Carol Lee donuts because donuts, but they are definitely not worthy of the cult following that they have.

She is banned from Lot 18 now right?

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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Nope! She is a keeper of Lot 18.

2 time Longwood grad married to a Hokie.

How? Cake donuts are the only good kind of donuts and Carol Lee's are among the best I've had anywhere in the country.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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You need to continue your trek on down 81 to Bristol and stop at Blackbird's for their donuts.

Leg for Blackbird's.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Cake donuts are the only good kind of donuts

Therefore, Cake > Pie

That should get this thread really rolling.

“You got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

Do they make pie donuts? Cake donuts are the best because they don't need glazed and other shit to make them edible.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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I'm a quintessential part of Lot 18 now. You can never ban me!

This is some power mad type stuff right here /s

When in doubt. Nap it out

I pity you for having taste buds that won't let you properly enjoy them

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

Note that I didn't say I dislike Carol Lee, I've just had better donuts elsewhere 🤷‍♀️

From another thread:
Engineering undergrad at tech isn't that hard. People just say it is to justify how hard they personally had to work to make up for lack of sufficient "academic prowress"

Warning: this post occasionally contains strong language (which may be unsuitable for children), unusual humor (which may be unsuitable for adults), and advanced mathematics (which may be unsuitable for liberal-arts majors)..

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"That kid you're talking to right there, I think he played his nuts off! And you can quote me on that shit!" -Bud Foster

Architecture wasn't hard. It was time consuming.

In Blacksburg, though?

EDIT: LOL this was supposed to go under the carol lee comment about better donuts being elsewhere

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I switched from comp eng to EE because in EE I could just do math problems for an hour and be done while comp eng had people working every waking minute programming. You just have to know the tricks of the trade.

Engineering undergrad at tech isn't that hard. People just say it is to justify how hard they personally had to work to make up for lack of sufficient "academic prowress"

Warning: this post occasionally contains strong language (which may be unsuitable for children), unusual humor (which may be unsuitable for adults), and advanced mathematics (which may be unsuitable for liberal-arts majors)..

okay, I've been scrolling past this comment for almost 5 days now and I have to say it. Isn't this

People just say it is to justify how hard they personally had to work to make up for lack of sufficient "academic prowress"

kind of what....you know....makes a class easier or harder??

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

Not hard compared to what? It's definitely more challenging material than 90% of other undergrad majors at VT. I barely graduated from VT ME, failed two classes on the way, and avoided failing a third due to a tremendously helpful curve. I don't think I'm a genius, but I found high school somewhat easy (I did well in AP classes/tests).

I think the major challenge is that there aren't many good teachers, so students have to teach themselves. Growing up, I never had to teach myself material, or 'learn how to learn' - teachers would work through the problems with students until it was clear. You just don't have that level of support from most professors at VT (at least in engineering where most view teaching undergrads as a second or third priority).

Now, you could argue that I wasn't very smart in high school if I never had to teach myself new material (and I will not disagree), but I think everyone would agree it's a lot easier to teach yourself Marketing than it is Dynamics.

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I think requiring engineering students to teach themselves is by design. The reason being a huge part of the profession is being able to push through complex situations while still knowing your limits. Some things are cookie cutter but most projects require doing something different than you ever have before. Anyway, just my two cents.

"with all due respect, and remember I’m sayin’ it with all due respect, that idea ain’t worth a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin gettin’ it on" - Ricky Bobby

1000% agree. I'm just saying engineering is significantly more difficult to teach oneself than most other areas of academia.

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