Whisky 2019

Since there is Beer 2019 thread, I figured we needed one for our beverages of choice.

What's on your shelf right now?

And what do hope to get your hands on?

On the Scotch front, I have a Bunnahabhain (the smoky one), a Glen Scotia and of course The Glenlivet.

The bourbon and rye list includes Blanton's, Basil Hayden, 2 different Knob Creek Small Batch Ryes and of course Buffalo Trace.

I would really like to get a hold of a Basil Hayden Dark Rye - very tasty and very hard to find where I am.

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Glen Farclas 17 year single malt

Beat GT

Been on a bit of a bourbon/rye kick as of late, definitely no expert but have grown the collection to almost 100 bottles. Some of the favorites:

Old Forester 1920
Smooth Ambler Contradiction
Stagg Jr.

Also highly recommend the documentary 'Neat: The Story of Bourbon' for folks that are into that sort of thing.

Balvenie DoubleWood 12 yr. The Caribbean cask version of the same is also one of my favorites.

Hokie fan | W&M grad

Love both of those Balvenie versions.

Probably the best bourbon I've ever had. Stands up to Pappy 23 all day long IMO.

Have the mainstays as well - blantons, basil, double Oaked woodford, etc

Did the Bourbon trail back in December and I highly recommend it. Hit Four Roses, Willett, Maker's Mark, Buffalo Trace & Woodford Reserve. WR is hands down the best to visit out of all of those.

From the trip I brought home a Willett Family Reserve Bourbon, Willett Rye, Col. E.H. Taylor Small Batch Bottled in Bond, & Woodford Bottled in Bond Distillery series.

Out of those I have to say EH Taylor is excellent and won't break the bank (have yet to open the WR BiB). Bonded whiskies in general are never misses.

I was given a Jefferson's Rum Cask Finish for Christmas and I must say the sweetness from the rum cask is really pleasant, would recommend. I have a pretty extensive collection and would love to hear what other folks are collecting and/or drinking.

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I'm going to do the bourbon trail in for the first time in 2020 when we play at Louisville. Planning on taking the week off and hitting as many distilleries as possible throughout the week.

I have a feeling I'll be tasting bourbon with a lot of Hokies that week, since we probably won't play at Louisville again since like 2032.

Our plan on a return trip is that game too. We stayed in Lexington on this past trip, but I'd like to hit it from the Louisville side next time.

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-Colin Cowherd

#ALLMAROONEVERYTHING

Same! Must have just missed you. My favorites would be:

1. Four Roses
2. Woodford Reserve
3. Angels Envy

To each their own, but I've never been a fan of Buffalo Trace personally. I kind of got the sense that their gimmick is to sell cheap bourbon as high priced American whiskey in east Asia.

If you saw a white 15 passenger van that was us.

I left Buffalo Trace pretty disappointed. The biggest positive was that I was able to snag the Colonel. Woodford blew my mind.

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-Colin Cowherd

#ALLMAROONEVERYTHING

what other folks are collecting and/or drinking

I'm team "or drinking".

My grandad always assured me you couldn't take it with you, and I believe he was correct, judging from what he had left behind. Of course, had he not been trying so hard to leave nothing behind, perhaps he wouldn't have died in waders.

I like to learn from my elders, so I don't drink and wade.

If anyone ever has any bourbon questions let me know. I'm your guy. I admin a large private bourbon group in KY, lead a store pick program, and arrange several bourbon charity functions every year. Have about 500 bottles and know folks at nearly every distillery and major bourbon group....Go Hokies!

Fuente puts the "FU" in Futbol

Can you send some Stagg to store 43 in Virginia lol

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-Colin Cowherd

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Y'all hiring?

Haha, this is just my hobby πŸ˜…. Unfortunatelly legally I can't get paid by money, just bourbon haha. I'm a chem E VT grad in KY

Fuente puts the "FU" in Futbol

I for one would be down with a TKP Whisky AMA if we thought there would be enough good questions on here. That would be kind of cool off topic.

If be down for that! Maybe I'll start a thread

Fuente puts the "FU" in Futbol

I have tried to enjoy bourbon and really want to like it, simply to no avail. If I were to waltz into an ABC, what should I go for to ease myself into it? I spend too much time in Louisville to not be acclimated with the spirit.

Amateur superstar and idiot extraordinaire.

IMO Four Roses "Single Barrel" and Woodford Reserve "Distiller's Select" are the best available from what can be found in just any random ABC store. Maker's Mark is about the same tier in terms of $ but it's not quite as good, to my tastebuds.

Curiously, what have you tried and not liked? Unrelated to maybe you specifically, but it always kills me when someone says "oh I'm not a beer person" but then it's clear the only beer they ever tried was kegger beers like PBR and Natty. Jim Beam for example is kind of the same way for Bourbons. It has its time and place but it's not a high end bourbon by any means.

Jim, Jack, Makers are ones that come to mind easily...a couple others here and there. I like to think I'm a beer guy, but as an aging former athlete, these calories are catching up to me lol

Amateur superstar and idiot extraordinaire.

See? I'm simply just lost in the woods on it lol

Amateur superstar and idiot extraordinaire.

Jim Beam for example is kind of the same way for Bourbons.

So glad to see someone else who feels this way about Jim Beam. I'll never waste my $ on it again. If it's the only bourbon available, I'll mix with coke or 7up. Otherwise, bourbon neat is my preference.

Agree. JB is only for mixing. I will never drink it straight.

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"I want to punch people from UVA right in the neck." - Colin Cowherd

Looking for a bottle and wondering if you might be able to help me out. Looked for you in a couple big groups but didn't see anything - can you email me at macperspectives at G mail. Thanks!

Well then, we need to talk! As part of the fermentation program we have a 30L Holstein 4 column still and have begun to use it for research and more..... We are always interested in collaborating with industry!

It's beginning!

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Definitely on a Blanton's kick right now myself. Anybody else have trouble finding it in the ABC stores?

Yes, everyone is. you have to go on delivery day. they arent stocking the shelves with it any more, just going from the box to my hand.

EDIT: it's been like this for the last 2+ years for me.

There was a pop up ABC store at the mall before Christmas that had it, so i snatched 2 bottles, but i haven't seen it anywhere since. I'll have to try looking on delivery day

I have been struggling for 2 years to find it as well. I still have one last pour from a bottle I got right before the Ky Derby in 2017.

Oh and mint juleps are a waste of (good) bourbon (I did not make it with the Blanton's for the record.)

Yeah, I've found Blantons once... over the past three years....

Seems like all the ABC stores I frequent get a case about every 2 months. You just have to know what day of the week they get new deliveries and be there that day every week. It usually doesn't last long.

β€œYou got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

I didn't know it was a rarity when I found it in Blacksburg ABC next to south main Kroger. They have a fully stocked shelf in 2015. It was delicious though and was not overly expensive. I think I still have the empty bottle somewhere.

Have some Woodford Reserve (my favorite bourbon). Also some Makers.
On the Irish whiskey front, some Powers and Slane. Both are very good and very affordable.

LET'S GO.....HOKIES!!!

Right now, my go to is Bulleit rye.
But in the cabinet I have:
Bulleit 10 year
Regular Bulleit
Jefferson
Jameson

So, nothing high brow. But after some college experiences, I can't touch the lower end stuff.

Discovered a great Indian whiskey. Called Paul John. Anyone else tried this?

Im not a bourbon connoisseur. A fraternity bro gifted me a bottle of Angel's Envy. Did my 1st shot of it after the 15th consecutive UVa victory. That was the smoothest bourbon ive ever tasted. Delicious!

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

Picked up a bottle of The Tyrconnell single malt Irish whiskey since I hadn't heard much of Irish Singles. Pleasantly surprised by it; slightly sweet with apple and pear flavors.

Lately I've been drinking Elijah Craig Barrel Proof, Woodford Reserve Double Oaked, Pikesville Rye, and Russell's Reserve Single Barrel.

My brother gave me a bottle of Jefferson's Twin Oak for Christmas that is just delicious, but a little overpriced in my opinion. Most Jefferson's is overpriced though, and at the same price as Jefferson's Ocean, I'd choose the Twin Oak every time.

And I always try to have a bottle of Four Roses Single Barrel, Wild Turkey 101, and Henry McKenna Single Barrel on hand.

Found TX Whiskey a year ago, only made and distributed in Texas and portions of Oklahoma. It's a blended whiskey but damn good. Basil Hayden's is something else on the shelf that I'm enjoying.

Looking into getting a nice whiskey stone set or sphere, if anyone has recommendations

American whiskeys: Four Roses yellow label (for mixing), Four Roses single barrel, Bowman Brothers Small Batch, Woodford Reserve, Willet Rowan's Creek, Willet Straight Rye (sadly it's almost gone), Filibuster Rye,
Scotch: Glenlivet 12, Laphroaig Quarter Cask, Abelour 12, Bowmore 8 (it's aged on old bourbon barrels)
I think that's everything?
EDIT: And my whiskey collection just grew. Got 3 more bottles as gifts this weekend: Maker's 46, Wilderness Trail Bourbon (a new Kentucky distillery), and MacKinlay's Shackleton Blended Malt (not normally a blended scotch person, but this is pretty good)

"That move was slicker than a peeled onion in a bowl of snot." -Mike Burnop

On the blended scotch front, I am not normally a blended scotch drinker but Monkey Shoulder is actually a very good blended scotch.

I would like to try the Willet Rye (love Willet bourbon) but its not available in Michigan.

I'll have to keep monkey shoulder in mind.

And I got Willet Rye at the distillery, I've never seen it in a liquor store before. I'd also highly recommend Willet Noah's Mill. It's their best bourbon.

"That move was slicker than a peeled onion in a bowl of snot." -Mike Burnop

Got to try the Willett Rye when I was on vacation in Florida this past week. Very nice. Now I have to figure out how to get a bottle or 3 to MI.

Have you looked to see if whiskeyliquorstore.com delivers in your area?

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

Looks like they will deliver, but prices are double what they are locally (I used Glenlivet as a comparator since I am very familiar with their pricing.) Not worth the upcharge.

Thanks for the tip, though.

Bulleit is my inexpensive go to, followed by Basil Hayden. I have a bottle of Wild Turkey Rare Breed which is very good. Also have a bottle of Bookers and Reservoir for when I want to take it up a notch, both are excellent but a bit too pricey. A bartender at the Optimist in Atlanta recommended a New York bourbon called Hudson's which I really enjoyed.

Where to start...

Recently picked up a bottle of Dalmore Cigar Malt, and recently finished last year's Highland Park Fire. Currently chipping away at Virginia Distillery's Cider Cask finish (if you can find it in VA buy it now - supplies are extremely limited ever since this made the top 20 in Whiskey Advocate's best of 2018). Other favorites I have at the moment:
- Big Peat Christmas edition
- Ardbeg An Oa
- Bavenie Caribbean Cask

On the bourbon front:
- High West Campfire (2017 edition... the recreated the recipe recently and I have yet to try)
- Multiple versions of the Jefferson's Ocean Aged voyages
- Fillibuster Boobdoggler
- and always a bottle of Mitcher's around the house

On the Bourbon/rye front, I always have Buffalo Trace, Woodford Reserve and Four Roses in the cabinet with a combo of 6-10 others. I seem to always have one of the Jeffersons in hand but am not a huge fan. I just received a bottle of High West Bourye and really enjoy it.

I am from Kentucky but live in the 757 so I have had the privilege of having many fine Bourbon's including the white whale of Bourbons; the elusive Pappy in 10 and 23 year old versions. I am really digging Bib and Tucker and Willet Pot Still right now and one I have been enjoying on the more fairly priced is the Larceny. I can't find any Blanton's unless I go back to KY and hit the Liquor Barn stores so I can't recommend more the Bib and Tucker Bourbon.....delicious.

Jeremiah 29:11 and Go Hokies!

757 Hokie here too.

Shoutout to Willett pot still. I have that beautiful bottle in my cabinet right now along with the Willett rye.

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-Colin Cowherd

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Koval (from Chicago) all four styles but I like the Millet the most.

Nikka Coffey Grain (from Japan).

I've also got a bottle of High West Campfire on my shelf but I find it a bit too smokey.

Koval might be the most interesting bourbons I've ever had.

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

Given your handle, have you been to the distillery?

No, not yet. I do want to check it out though.

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

Buffalo Trace
Bulleit 10 Year
Jefferson's Ocean
Four Roses Single Barrel Private Selection OESF
Pinhook
Ardbeg

My next investments will be a bottle of Suntori Hibiki and Aberlour A'bunadh.

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

Honestly, the Hibiki is boring..

If you can get a good buy on it it's not a bad table pour or 3rd drink (first 2 for the good stuff). Nothing wrong with it at all except, well .... boring.

To each their own. If you get a good bottle of Hibiki 17, to me it's one of the most complex and nuanced whiskeys I've ever had.

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

Woodford Reserve bourbon and rye
Maker's
Bulleit bourbon and rye
Bushmills for Irish coffee
Jameson's as a supper
Macallan

This is going to be great for the ACC.

Bourbon: Buffalo Trace for when we have company. Russel Reserve & Basil Haydens is my go-to for when I want bourbon Neat. And on the real cheap, someone put me onto Ezra Brooks. Its only $12, but it isn't terribly far off from a mid-shelf bourbon. Really surprised me for the price. My new go-to for mixing and parties.

Scotch: I always have Glenlivet 12 in the cabinet, but my favorite is Balvenie 14 Caribbean Cask, very good stuff!

Is it basketball season yet?

If you like Ezra Brooks, give Zachariah Harris shot. It's actually a few bucks cheaper and I like it better than Ezra.

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

Better Than Ezra? I see what you did there (assuming it was intentional). But I guess that is for a music thread, not a bourbon thread.

Complete bourbon noob here. I've been drinking a lot of bourbon barrel stouts and have acquired a taste for it. I bought some Elijah Craig small batch and have been enjoying that. What other bourbons should I look out for when I go to the ABC store?

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

Preferably $30-$35, but don't really care if it's good stuff. My problem is that I have no idea where to find any of the bourbons mentioned in this thread. The ABC stores around Raleigh are always sold out of the good stuff.

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

Make sure you ask at the counter, not just look on the shelf. The local ABC store here in Kernersville NC does not put everything on the shelf. If they have Blanton's it will not be on the shelf. If they have Eagle Rare, its always in the back. Basically, if they think they will sell out before they can get more they don't bother clearing, setting, and then resetting the shelf. Not sure if that is all NC, or just local, but heard the same for Stokesdale ABC.

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

If you're looking to get something good at a very reasonable price point, Eagle Rare is a great place to start. Its bottled at Buffalo Trace and one of the best priced bourbons out there in my opinion.

Is it basketball season yet?

If you're looking for entry-level bourbons that won't break the bank (<$50) and are available in Virginia, I'd start with Eagle Rare, Buffalo Trace (when it's available, which is pretty frequently but not always), John J Bowman Single Barrel (Virginia made), Four Roses SIngle Barrel, Maker's Mark, or Henry McKenna 10 year Bottled-In-Bond, All are quite good and reasonably priced.

What bourbon barrel stouts have you been enjoying. I just had a Dragon's Milk from New Holland brewing this weekend and it was great. I also have a couple Goose Island Bourbon County Barrel Stouts lying around that I haven't opened yet. Looking for other suggestions.

β€œYou got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

John J Bowman Single Barrel

My daughter buys me a bottle of this for Christmas most years. We tried it at the distillery in Fredericksburg when we were there for a birthday party. Great stuff made more delicious by happy associations.

"Our job as coaches is to influence young people's lives for the better in terms of fundamental skills, work ethic, and doing the right thing. Every now and again, a player actually has that effect on the coaching staff." Justin Fuente on Sam Rogers

Agreed - Bowman has been my go-to this past year.

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Dragon's Milk and BCBS are both great. Others that I've recently been digging (and get distributed) include:

  • Founders KBS
  • Founders CBS
  • Oskar Blues BBA Ten Fidy
  • Bell's BBA Expedition Stout
  • Thirsty Dog BBA Siberian Night
  • Foothills BBA Sexual Chocolate
  • Olde Hickory The Event Horizon

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

Hardywood brewery in Richmond has a big lineup of barrel aged products including a killer gingerbread stout. They now have three locations.

#Let's Go - Hokies

My bourbon well is pretty dry at the moment. Only have Basil Hadens which is always a good go to.

Typically like BH, Makers 46, wood ford Reserve double oaked (although I usually drink that bottle way too quick), Hibiki and buffalo trace.

My new plan is to try and start a collection but we'll see. Had some whistle pig the other week and it was really good as well.

If you don't want to recruit clowns, don't run a clown show.

"I want to punch people from UVA right in the neck." - Colin Cowherd

Everytime a start a collection of bourbon, all I end up with is empty bottles.

For all the Blanton's folks out there (which is probably all of us), if you can't find Blanton's grab Elmer T. Lee. Fantastic bourbon and same mashbill as Blanton's.

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-Colin Cowherd

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Will have to give that a try.

If you can't find Blanton's, how in the heck are you gonna find Elmer? I've at least seen Blanton's in the wild before. Never spotted an Elmer except on secondary market sites, where it goes for $120 or more a bottle.

β€œYou got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

Agree, both are highly sought after but I believe Elmer is down to only being released once or twice a year by Buffalo Trace whereas Blanton's is released regularly, although not in huge amounts.

We found that if you are on the hunt for harder to find BT bottles, you can email them directly and they will provide you with a list of stores in your state that have received bottles in the past. Doesn't mean they are currently in stock but at least gives you a starting point for your search.

Happy hunting!

Open right now, I've got Weller 12, Eagle Rare, Colonel EH Taylor Small Batch, Blanton's and Evan Williams Single Barrel. Just tried Rhetoric 22 last night at a local BBQ place in Purcellville - and I enjoyed that one. It stood up to Weller 12

My everyday choice is Eagle Rare - in my opinion, there is not many bourbons at $32.99 that taste as smooth as Eagle Rare.

If I may ask, where did you find a Weller 12? I've been wanting to try that for ages, but I don't think I've ever laid eyes upon one. You can find it on the secondary market for 4-6x retail price, but I don't think I want it that badly.

β€œYou got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

I've got a few bottles through secondary. I was hesitant to pull the trigger given the secondary price tag, but a friend of mine gave me a 2oz taste off his open bottle a couple years back, and it was fantastic. Definitely worth the secondary price. I think in VA it only gets sent out via lottery, so it's tough to find here.

For a Virginia Bourbon don't sleep on some of the Bowman stuff out of Fredericksburg. The Single Barrel is really good.

Everything from Buffalo Trace/Sazerac is really good obviously (Buffalo Trace, Taylor, Weller, Blantons, Elmer Lee, Stagg, Eagle Rare) but I tire of hunting them down like I'm looking for the holy grail.

The Wild Turkey line is a great move if you want to go in knowing that you are going to find what you are looking for when you walk into the store. Big fan of the Russell Reserve bourbons. I'm just not a huge fan of the Beam stuff but that is certainly not a mark against it, just not my thing.

I tire of hunting them down like I'm looking for the holy grail

Speaking the truth right here!

Is it basketball season yet?

I use the A. Smith Bowman's bourbon barrels to age Squatch(Scottish Wee Heavy) to transform it into Chaos Federal Reserve.

Really underrated bourbon.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

Oh shit. This sounds like something I need to get my hands on. Squatch is my all-time favorite beer, believe it or not. Haven't seen nor heard of Federal Reserve.

Fifth and Federal in Lynchburg, if you're in the area.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

Thanks!

Only available at the brewery and at 5th and (as stated above) Federa" Station in Lynchburg but currently we are waiting for bottle labels to arrive, it'll be on 12oz bottles too.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

Thanks for the info!

I tend to enjoy Buffalo Trace and Bulleit as every day bourbon.

Evan Williams Small Batch was remarkably good and in the same price range.

Didn't care for Maker's 46 (too sweet)

On the scotch side of things, I bought a bottle of Dalmore Cigar Malt, for the holidays with my sons. It was outstanding (but triple the price of what I've been paying for Buffalo Trace and EW Small Batch)

I'm a big scotch guy, well over 100 bottles. Currently my pours have been an Irish, to my slight surprise.

Red Breast 12, single pot has really hit the spot lately. I enjoy peat, but sometimes I guess I need a break. The Red Breast is fantastic, almost delicate and would be a good starter whisk(e)y for those not sure if they enjoy whiskey/whisky/bourbon drinks.

I like the saltiness of the Islays but Balvenie Doublewood has been a significant favorite lately.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

I'm going to be real honest, I haven't gotten to the point where any of the nuances of bourbon or whiskey are readily present when I drink it neat or on rocks. I have some I like. Some I don't. But the first couple drinks are always more alcohol burn than any flavor. Is this something you just gotta keep trying until you get past it?

There's always gonna be some ethanol burn with whiskey, but it shouldn't be the dominant characteristic. If it is, the bourbon you're drinking is either too young, or possibly a high rye mash bill. (Rye has a different type of burn than the alcohol, usually more of a spiciness.) Two reasonably affordable bourbons that are notably smooth are Buffalo Trace and Four Roses (yellow label).

But just speaking practically, if your bourbon is too hot, add a half teaspoon to a teaspoon of water instead of on the rocks. It's counterintuitive, but chilling the whiskey doesn't soften the burn. If it did, we'd just keep it in the freezer. The trick to getting around the burn is hitting the sweet spot of dilution, where you put the ethanol to bed a bit but haven't blunted the flavors. I'm guessing the reason why you don't care for whiskey on the rocks is that your bartender just scoops a whiskey glass full of the same ice they use for a rum and coke. It'll cool your whiskey off quick, but you go hurling past the right dilution point and wind up with bourbon flavored water. Ice balls or large ice cubes (about 1.5 inches per side) are a much better option because they melt much more slowly while chilling the whiskey about the same as a glass full of ice. But if you can't get that at your local bar, ask for it with one ice cube. Swirl the whiskey as it melts, until it's at least halfway melted. It'll take a while, but if you're drinking whiskey straight you shouldn't be in a hurry.

If none of this works for you, straight whiskey might just not be your thing, and there's nothing wrong with that.

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

Thanks! Appreciate it. I have bourbon ice ball molds and have used them. I will try the water dilution thing.

I've had a lot that I've liked that were quite smooth. Several that weren't. I like Blantons. I like Buffalo Trace. I like Four Roses Single Barrel. I'm currently drinking Knob Creek and while I do like the flavor, it seems to have more of the ethanol burn than some of the others I mentioned.

I don't mind the burn, but just wish I could pick out the different noses/notes everyone's always describing. Vanilla. Oak. Caramel. Citrus. Pepper. Etc. I can never get past the general "this is sweet" or "this is spicy". I know when I like something but usually never know why I like it. Maybe I just don't have a strong enough ability to pick out all the different flavors or whatever.

Thanks again for the tips.

The only people who have to articulate what they like about a particular whiskey is people who review whiskey for a living. You know what you like (and as far as I'm concerned, you like the good shit, based on the examples you gave). I recommend just Googling "bourbons like Four Roses Single Barrel" and stuff like that. That's how I have found several of the bourbons I like.

Also, Knob Creek always drinks hot for me, too. It's good bourbon, but I think it needs a year or two more in the barrel than what they give it. I always give it a healthy pour of water.

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

To find other things you like, the other thing you can do (although maybe not VA since they are state run) is get to know your liquor store owner. Mine knows me by name and makes recommendations based on what he knows I like. I got a fantastic bottle of scotch (the Glen Scotia) for Christmas because my wife mentioned who she was buying it for.

That's a good tip, thanks!

Thanks again, appreciate your thoughts. Glad to know the Knob Creek isn't just me.

I've got way too many open on my shelf right now:
High West American Prairie Bourbon, Weller Special Reserve, Four Roses Single Barrel OBSV, 1792 Bottled-in-Bond, Buffalo Trace, EH Taylor Small Batch, Henry McKenna 10-year BiB, Hunter & Scott, and probably one or two others I can't think of at the moment.

I need to empty a couple of those before I can dig in to some of the unopened bottles I have lying around:
Weller Antique 107, Knob Creek Single Barrel Reserve, Elijah Craig Barrel Proof, Evan Williams Single Barrel Select, Little Book, Michter's 10-year, and Old Forester 1910.

β€œYou got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

I had Elijah Craig Barrel Proof over the holidays and really, really liked it.

For anyone wondering why AssPocketFullOWhiskey hasn't commented on a whiskey thread asking what is in his liquor cabinet... well, the wallet is barren and therefore so is the liquor cabinet.

As far as whiskey is concerned anyway. There are plenty of other liquors in there and a ton of beer in the beer fridge, but whiskey doesn't last in my house because it's delicious and I drink it within two weeks of buying it.

I just recently finished up a bottle of Jameson that was distilled before Frank was on the sidelines though. It's amazing what you will find when cleaning out your father-in-law's basement. Luckily, whiskey doesn't go bad.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

VABC has a black friday thing every year. That's how I manage to stock up.

It's sweet that you think that whiskey bought in November will make it till mid-January in my house.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

For anyone wondering why AssPocketFullOWhiskey hasn't commented on a whiskey thread asking what is in his liquor cabinet

see, here I thought it was because you stored it elsewhere

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

If only I had a liquor cabinet sized ass pocket.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

I've got a bunch of stuff at the moment:

Scotch:
Johnnie Walker Gold
Balvenie Doublewood
Ardbeg 10 yr

Rye:
Sagamore Rye
Knob Creek Rye

Bourbon/whiskey:
Old Forester Single Barrel
Old Forester 1920
Knob Creek Single Barrel
Blood Oath Single Barrel
Bookers
Calumet Farm 10 yr
Crown Royal Black

Recently tried a special edition Oban 18yr and holy crap that was amazing

Also, on a MUCH cheaper note, currently sipping on Redemption High Rye Bourbon. Definitely a great value.

Oban is my standard. Hits all the right notes for me and is always enjoyable.

Just tame enough to relax with while bringing enough complexity to ever never elicit an "ehh" thought.

As one of the biggest whisky alcoholics on this site I have to apologize for being late responding.
For me, anything under 100 proof gives me a monstrous headache so I'm limited on what I drink. Wild Turkey 101 is my daily fave and Evan Williams white label is quite good for the price point. I also usually keep a bottle of Knob Creek 100 on hand as well as Wild Turkey Rate Breed (personal fave).
I was not crazy about Old Forester or Four Roses.

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It's been a good while since I bought bourbon or whiskey, as I have been given several bottles as gifts the last year or two (I don't drink it often or in great quantities, so a bottle lasts me a several months to a year).

That being said, I notice a lot of comments on here where people are having trouble locating bottles that I don't recall having much trouble finding. It seems when I wanted a bottle of Blanton's, or Four Roses SB, or Buffalo Trace, I just went in the south main ABC store and bought it.

This was a year or two ago, like I said. Has the market changed that drastically? I guess I need to go check it out.

Agreed, Basil Hayden Dark Rye is very good.

When y'all say eagle rare do you mean the 10 or the 17?

A road trip to Tennessee solved my drinking problem.

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.and Whit puts on his batting gloves and steps up to the plate....

Anybody ever heard of this stuff?

Normally I wouldn't be interested in a young rye from a moonshine distillery, but it keeps popping up on my Facebook feed, and my go-to whiskey blogs give it pretty favorable reviews.

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Moved to Northern Alabama last year and discovered Lynchburg TN is only an hour away. The Jack Daniels tour was pretty cool, and definitely worth it if you ever find yourself in that area. I've been doing Bourbons lately (Eagle Rare, BT, Woodford etc), but the Jack Single Barrel might be my favorite/smoothest whiskey I've had. You definitely either like Jack or you don't, but thats definitely worth a try imo.

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If anyone here is in the Tri-Cities in TN there is a great little distillery in Jonesboro called Tennessee Hills. All of their stuff is great but they have a bourbon called S.E. Callahan's. Really worth the try. It's a great choice at the $30/750 price point. Their vodka is the smoothest I've ever had anywhere.

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Has anyone tried any of the Game of Thrones scotch series release? I found a couple recently (White Walker and House Stark) and was curious as to whether or not anyone here had found any others. I've only tried the White Walker so far, and I think it tastes a lot better than what the mixed reviews claimed. Haven't tried the Stark yet.

I have a bottle of the Stark, but I haven't cracked it yet. Its a Dalwhinnie so I expect it to be good.

If it's anything like season 8 I don't want to come near it.

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The Jameson Stout Cask Whiskey is really tasty. My favorite out of what's in the cabinet today is a Four Roses Single Barrel Select though. Had a friend bring over some Eagle Rare on Sunday and did a taste test with Buffalo Trace, Buffalo Trace Single Barrel, the Four Roses Small Batch and the Four Roses Single Barrel Select. We split on the BTSB or Eagle Rare for second favorite, with the Eagle being smoother but the single barrel having a little more flavor.

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Redemption Rye

Evan Williams Green Label is really good mixed with coke or ginger ale, especially when they do the really cool patriot bottles near the 4th of July. You taste it and literally feel like you're back in a Terrace View apartment.

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Many a nights I would look at that bottle, then some short time later, be looking at my carpet face-to-face

Yea we liked to call that "time traveling". Evan Williams and Burnette's were our time machines.

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Sounds like a hard pass for me. I've had enough good whisky over the years that I don't need to be reminded of the crap (read Jim Beam white label) I drank when I might have been at Terrace View or Foxridge or Stonegate.

Old Crow from a freezer did me in on the cheap stuff. I just can't do it anymore.

Bulleit Bourbon has been my go to recently. Its not as sweet as some of the others but still a good finish and a good price.
Other favorites:
1792
Four Roses
Woodford double oak - probably the best of the bunch listed but also a little more money

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Bulleit Rye is one of my favorite rye whiskeys. Standard Bulleit is pretty good as well.

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Bulleit Rye is my go-to of all whiskeys. Not just rye. I just acquired a bottle of Jack Daniel's Single Barrel Rye, and would much rather drink the Bulleit. And Bulleit is at least 3/4 the price.

I see the offseason doldrums have returned, right on schedule. I'm quite excited to be able to talk whiskey again, as is means there's no current offseason bad news afoot.

Since the last time this conversation was active, I've found a couple that I was looking for: Weller 12 and Michter's Toasted Barrel Bourbon (haven't opened the latter yet). I also found a new favorite. If you have a chance to grab a bottle of Barrell Dovetail, by all means, do so. It may not be for the purists (finished in rum and wine casks), or the faint of heart (122 proof), but my goodness. That might be the tastiest spirit I have ever tried.

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IMO there is nothing wrong with a whisky finished in rum or wine casks. Basil Hayden dark rye even has a bit of port added to it to give its signature flavor.

I'm a fan of finished bourbons too, but there are a lot of purists out there who refuse to acknowledge those as actual bourbons. These same people probably enjoy their drinks while watching only National League baseball.

β€œYou got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

Purists tend to be idiots and killjoys.

Don't @ me.

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In some cases they are not bourbons. Legally a bourbon has to be made in the US, contain 51% or more corn, and be aged in new oak barrels. Alot of finished bourbons will age in the new barrels first and then put them in the finishing barrels, which probably is fine, but you can read Here to figure that out. I'm not a government booze regulator.

Now refusing to drink something becuase it's not "bourbon" well that's stupid. You are missing out on lots of good whiskeys.

To be clear, brickhaus was talking about the rule "be aged in new oak barrels". A new popular trend is for "bourbon" makers to finish their product in a second barrel that was used in the aging of some other spirit.

Probably the most mainstream popular example I know is Angel's Envy. This is why they don't market their product as "bourbon" but as "bourbon finished in a port barrel". I personally think it's up there in quality with other big name bourbons. I guess it's kind of like the German beer purity laws in that it was probably useful at some point for setting a standard of what defined "bourbon" but it also feels limiting in terms of innovating on some interesting new tastes.

https://www.angelsenvy.com/whiskey/process/

Just picked up a bottle of this. Looking forward to cracking it.

It's delicious.

Yeah, I couldn't resist. I sampled a bit shortly after I typed that last comment. Enjoyed the small taste I had. Looking forward to having a good pour this weekend.

Looking at everything going on in the whiskey world I really struggle to see the legal definition of bourbon limiting any one. You mention Angel's Envy, which is extremely popular and has been for quite some time. The one distillery in Fredericksburg is doing some more interesting things.

Also not a lawyer, but the regulations state that bourbon is aged in new oak barrels, which Angel's envy is, not where its finished.

I'm not a lawyer either but the rule could not be more straightforward. "Finished" is just another word for "aged", and so aging in a used port barrel is very explicitly what that rule specifies not to do to call something bourbon. Here's a link:

https://americanbourbonassociation.com/bourbon-what-is

In any case the point is not that companies can't be successful in spite of these rules, I pointed out Angels Envy in the first place to demonstrate this. I tend to to think there's plenty of people that probably weren't willing to take a big risk like that, and probably still are. It's evidently a pretty conservative industry and I suspect Angels Envy was able to pull it off in part because their founder was already well established and highly regarded in the industry from developing other big brands.

I was reading about some distillers would age in an oak barrel first then transfer to the port barrel so they could argue it was aged in the oak. That's what I am not sure of. But yes aging completely in a port barrel would violate regulations.

I am not sure who would be discouraged as most of the big names are either so big they make what they want (Buffalo trace), mass market so they would never be risky (beam) or seem like they would never take risks (Woodford).

The newer distillers that have been popping up lately have been taking the risks. But so have places like buffalo trace they make other things than bourdon. Weller is a wheated bourbon (which is a nice way to say were not bourbon), they make ryes and vodkas and creams so they arent tied to the name of bourbon. They just make good stuff.

Aging in a new, charred oak barrel and then transferring to another barrel (say a wine or rum cask) is fine. Where a producer could get himself into trouble would be counting that time in the finishing barrel toward the bourbon's age. You can't call your product a 10-year bourbon if it spent 9 years in a conventional bourbon barrel and then another year in a sherry cask. What you have there is a 9-year bourbon finished in something else.

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If I recall correctly, you can write any number of years on the bottle. But to be called bourbon you just have to make the minimum, now yes toy could get in trouble there if you doubt meet that in the oak barrel.

I'm not a lawyer either but the rule could not be more straightforward. "Finished" is just another word for "aged", and so aging in a used port barrel is very explicitly what that rule specifies not to do to call something bourbon.

That is not how the rule was written or is currently interpreted. Finishing is a distinct process from aging. Aging must be done in a first-use charred oak barrel. Once you take it out of that barrel, the aging process is complete. Afterwords, you can finish in another type of barrel, but the time spent in that second barrel does not count toward the age statement, nor does finishing prohibit you from calling your spirit "bourbon". You simply have to acknowledge the finishing on the label.

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― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

lol, we're just going in circles now. You just used different words to explain what I said in my first comment.

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Well, thanks to re-reading through this thread, I just spent my last 2 days at work planning and booking an abbreviated Kentucky Bourbon Trail tour later this year. My wallet is going to cry but my mouth is already watering

I am planning on a bourbon tour around the 2020 football game in Louisville. Two of my favorite things in one trip.

Getting pretty close to picking up a bottle of Old Forester 1920. I've had the 1897 and it was absolutely delicious. Can anyone confirm the 1920 is worth that extra $10-$15?

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For sure, OF 1920 is one of the best deals in bourbon right now as it is readily available everywhere and the quality is up there with some of the high end limited editions.
Enjoy it!
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A couple of interesting whisky related channels on YouTube:

Whiskey Vault - a whisky Sommelier and his buddy sample and review a variety of whisk(e)ys and talk about them.

Whiskey Tribe - same two guys but with a slightly different twist on whisk(e)y tasting.

Then there are these 3 videos from The Modern Rogue that are pretty cool:

The modern rogue videos got the other two channels in my feed. Even as a whisky drinker for 10+ years, i still learned a couple of things from these.

Not like there is much of a chance to actually find it, but Buffalo Trace is releasing a full proof Weller and a Bourbon aged in French Oak barrels for June

mmmm Weller