Poll/Question... Has the NBA "Free Agency/Summer League" surpassed

the NHL in terms of coverage and interest? I would argue it has. ESPN covers NBA free agency like they do the Super Bowl, and so does all of the major Sirius/XM channels. It's all Kwahi/Durant talk, all the time- very little baseball, etc. I would argue that since LeBron's DECISION show, the sport of "NBA Free Agency" has surpassed the NHL in the American hierarchy of fan and media interest.

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Without a doubt, which is a shame.

This last week really drove that point home. On 97.5 the Phantic in Philly, they have Tim Legler on all the time for segments and he made a great point the other day. He spends a lot of time at the ESPN studios doing hits, and he mentioned how the NFL guys in the off season get to a point where they are really stretching for things to talk about. The NBA guys have things worth discussing every single day

Yes x 1000. I think the timeline you gave of LeBron's "The Decision" is pretty much spot on for when the dynamic shifted. The NBA does a great job of marketing it's superstars and has become a league where people follow players more than teams. Since there are only 5 players on the court at a time, one superstar can change the outlook for a team's season and the constant moving of players creates new storylines and intrigue year after year. With all that being said, I prefer to watch team basketball over games of 1-on-1 isoball so I will always watch NCAA BB over the NBA.

Yes, it's not even close. The NHL is much closer to MLS in popularity than it is NBA/NFL/MLB.

Superstar-driven league with guaranteed contracts that top out at 5 years make for a lot of player movement.

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I assume you mean "NFL" as hockey and the NHL have clearly been behind the NBA for quite some time. But either way, the answer is yes. The NBA has done an excellent job marketing itself and spacing its activities (draft, free agency, Summer League, etc) to where you always have something to talk about. It also helps that they've made their CBA in such a way that player movement is easier and more common, meaning teams can remake themselves quickly if need be (unless you've got a totally inept owner, sorry Knicks and Suns fans). They also recognize that personalities are what drives interest and don't shy away from embracing player empowerment whether its basketball related (ie forcing trades, signing somewhere in free agency) or promoting themselves on social media which in turn the NBA embraces and helps promote. Contrast that with the NFL which often times tries to stamp out individuality and anything fun or how everything is about "the shield" or any other metaphor that puts the league itself above the players. None of that is as fun or engaging so it doesn't hold peoples' interest until the games start in the Fall.

Im not talking about "NBA" as in actual games. I'm asking if the free agency period alone is bigger than the NHL

Oh if that's the case, then yeah. NBA offseason gets more attention than actual NHL games outside of the Stanley Cup Finals. The NHL, outside of a handful of markets, has been behind for awhile.

the NBA offseason probably even gets more attention than the SCF

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I would think so too but I'm hesitant to say for sure. It gets more digital ink coverage but I'm not sure how to compare everyone who reads that to everyone who actually watches the SCF, which still does pretty I believe (could be wrong, I don't know the hard numbers). I do know that on nights when the SCF is on, most of the Twitter trends are hockey related so that's a sign the NHL still has some kind of audience.

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Add on the fact that players are taking on shorter and shorter contracts to maximize their ability to maintain some control over their career and big names hit the free agent market every year. Lebron signed one year deals every year in round 2 with Cleveland (might still do it). If you are good enough a team will take you on your terms, only reason to lock in a multi-year contract is some protection against injury.

Whatever. It was one bad year.

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NBA is having its peak now. They've probably surpassed the MLB in regards to just how much chatter it created across the calendar year.

The NHL made its mistake by focusing too much on Ovi vs Crosby over the past 10 years. The way they marketed, they made it seem like those two were the only players that mattered, and in terms of the league, if Chicago, Pittsburgh, Washington, Detroit, NY, Philly, Toronto, and Boston weren't in the hunt, it wasn't worth watching. Welp, guess what happened this year?

To make matters worse, teams like Tampa, Carolina, Florida, Nashville, Columbus, etc have all taken big steps toward legitimate contention and may represent the next batch of power teams for the next 5 years or so. Given the marketing the league has put out over the past 10-15 years, and the massive resentment that the O6 and Canadian markets have toward hockey existing below the Mason-Dixon Line, they have a real problem on their hands going forward.

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the massive resentment that the O6 and Canadian markets have toward hockey existing below the Mason-Dixon Line, they have a real problem on their hands going forward.

I didn't realize that this was a thing until i heard those people in Boston talking trash about "Hockey in Carolina"...Hurricane games seemed to be attended pretty well when the team is competitive...i enjoy watching hockey games but it's sort of like baseball for me where I typically watch it when the playoffs starts...

I think the NFL Players Union is extremely weak and while they may never be empowered the way the NBA and the fact that the average NFL career is a little over 3 years, you wouldd think they would have more of a backbone.

Yes but ironically since the games are so bad now what with everyone acting like soccer players with the flopping and whining about every call now the offseason drama is more exciting than the actual season...

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NBA off-season is getting more coverage than NBA regular season. They sell hope and hype.

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Exactly, the NBA off season has actually surpassed the actual NBA season. I'm more interested in the off season than the dang games! I'm looking forward to a couple of months from now when I forget who signed or was traded where and then surprised while watching games!