OT: Dog Days of August Fishing Thread

Just realised its August so figured I would start up the monthly fishing thread. Hopefully things keep warm so the cobia bites keeps on and the smallmouth and largemouth hit peak topwater days.

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Guess I'll speak up! Going out this Sunday with hopes for a sunrise giant topwater Trout during peak solunar

Same here!

Can't spell DBU without Bud

I am fishing somewhere on Sunday on an OBX pier. I haven't decided if I am going to live bait or pack light and carry some bucktails and gotcha plugs.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

I'll be in the area next week as well. If we go I'm likely taking my 2 boys to Jennette's with a likely trip to the aquarium and lots of ice cream afterwards.

Thought I would share an update to a previously mentioned trip. A few months ago my family and I decided to retreat to the Texas gulf coast for a late summer vacation. Horseback riding, trips to the aquarium, building sand castles on the beach, and some early morning fishing were on the menu. I jumped on this forum to get pointers on equipment and techniques, as I would try my hand at first-time surf fishing. I ended up with a combination of products from Daiwa, Penn, Abu Garcia and Lew's. Super happy with my purchases, thanks so much for the suggestions.

Fast forward to two weeks ago. There is a big Covid outbreak in the Corpus Christi area--so much so that restrictions were being put on beach access. We decided we would still make the trek, focusing on keeping a safe distance from everyone else. We really just wanted to feel the sand in our toes. Fast forward another few days. This 'tropical disturbance' in the gulf was starting to gain legs, and appeared to be heading right in the direction of where we were staying. We decided to still continue on.

We end up arriving in Corpus Christi just in time to take on Hurricane Hanna directly while our beach condo both took on water and lost power. The first 3 days of our trip we spent cleaning up the wreckage, helping the community pick up trash and debris all along the beach and seawall, and even helped rescue a wildlife creature or two. It started out being a trip that was completely unplanned...all while doing this with 6 kiddos! It was a memory we won't soon forget.

Once the dust settled and the storm passed, the beaches reopened for the second half of our trip. My oldest son and I were chomping at the bit to fish. We head down to the coast with shiny new gear in hand, and the conditions were...tough. 8' swells coupled with floating plastic all from the storm's aftermath. Not exactly as we had planned. We land one catfish, but nothing else. Every cast is a ball of plastic and seaweed. We decide to bag our efforts after trying for 3 hours.


On our way back from the beach, we decide to use our last few pieces of bait (shrimp) in a saltwater lake/inland estuary. Within two minutes we hooked into our largest fish of the week--a 4 lb black drum. We were so excited to not only land a desirable fish--but a rather hefty one on such a quick bite. Now I have caught this species before, north of 40 lbs. But considering all we had been through--Covid outbreak, the storm, loss of power, closed beaches...this one felt almost as sweet.


This is an example of the trash I was collecting via my fishing tackle. Unfortunately, this big wad of plastic ended up tearing off my 30 lb shock leader. Each time I tried casting into the gulf on the beach front, my results were the same. I tried casting with a fish finder rig, a rat-l-trap lure, a spoon...you name it. Anything but a fish.

After talking to some locals, we learned that a great spot would be on one of the channels. We spent three of our precious mornings hitting spots like this, high traffic areas with a steep drop off, but little wake and significantly less trash. We landed more puppy reds than anything else--but grateful no less.

All in all, super glad we went. Helped the community with storm clean-up, supported local restaurants and businesses, made memories as a family and had a chance to fish the coast--which we only get to do once a year. In total we caught over 20 fish in 5 different species.

If it ain't orange, it better be maroon...and if it ain't maroon, it better be soon!

Nice fish tale, thanks

Sweet story, great memories. The kids will remember that trip fondly forever!
Was there blackened Black Drum on the menu (that is one of my favs!)?
Thanks for sharing!

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Was thinking of floating somewhere this weekend but after the last round of storms last night I think things might be washed out again. Gonna be on the New for four days next week so not a big deal. Did however manage to catch almost 5 and a half inches from one storm last night and now have some downed trees to clean up.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Hey I live in Richmond and have a kayak (got it this spring) so if you're interested in doing a float I'd be up for it when the weather is more cooperative. It's a pain getting decent river fishing in when you have to put in and take out at the same spot.

Sweet I'll let ya know next time we put together a float in the area things are gonna be muddy for a bit but the river has to come down sometime.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Cool deal man sounds good.

We got 4-1/2" of rain in two hours from the gulleywasher yesterday pm. I'm still cleaning up after the hurricane myself, but my yard is small and my big trees only lost a few dead limbs. Now, it's mosquito time! Heard another report of a few slot reds around the area so I'm hoping to get after them as soon as the yard is back to normal. I've geared up this summer with some stuff I haven't done, like the Skitter for topwater and trout eye jigs and trout popping corks, but need to get them out of their boxes for them to work, right?

Reel men fish on Wednesdays

Yeah we got about 3" in a very short period too.

I felt so old cursing the rain as it washed my gravel from my driveway down into the ditch. I actually think my garden is getting too much water now my peppers were looking so good now they're all wacky and browning.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Anyone ever fish Phelps lake in NC? Dragging the jon down and camp. I have an idea of what I am going to target/ throw but any input would be welcomed. I have never been.

Caught a nice bass, my buddy got one too. What a unique lake/ experience, just anchored the boat and waded around spots then moved. Campground was actually pretty nice in my opinion. Made a huge mistake (forgot my battery charger), but will definitely go back in the fall.

Did some looking that looks like an interesting body of water what kind of bottom does it have? Looks like a unique body of water to fish and wade in that said the snakes in that area of the world might keep me in a boat.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Hard sand in some spots soft sand in other spots. Minimal lay downs/ rocks but if you found a lay down/ off shore cover (old dock posts, etc) there were some sort of fish on it. Keep in mind "off shore" in this situation is maybe 20-40 yards off the cypress trees. Wasn't terribly worried about snakes as we stayed probably 10-20 yards off the cypress trees and could have seen it coming with ease. I would have liked to stay on the boat to cover water faster but our battery situation just wasn't going to let it happen.

I have decided to leave Mathews County for something other than necessities only to be had in nearby Gloucester, and then only rarely. I have had nobody in my house other than us since March, and haven't been in anyone else's house since early April. I haven't fished with anyone at all, and that alone has hampered my get up and go out, coupled with the heat and humidity. And age, making it harder every year to launch and recover my boat alone. Add in the spotty fishing this year around here, and it adds up the the least amount of fishing I've done in decades.
Today, though, I break out. I am going to the next county over, Middlesex, to visit a fishing buddy on the Piankatank. He has a small (tiny) pond with bass and sunfish, and I am breaking out the fly rod for the first time in ages, for some solo popping bug pond fishing. Then we'll distance on his deck and get mildly sociable. Bought a six of Fat Tire, some applewood smoked cheddar, some salami and butter and garlic flavored Ritz to take for a snack.
I realize that most, if not all of you folks, have not been that isolated, some of you almost not at all it seems, but I just ain't comfortable with that yet. Not trying to stir up another virus thread here, just explaining why catching a few sunfish on poppers and having a beer with a bud is such a treat for me.
All of my fishing friends, all of whom are younger than the dirt that is me, understand and have been very patient with me as I have declined invitations, and declined to issue invitations, to fish with a companion.
While a small effort, for small fish, might not be of wider interest, I will post a report this evening, and look forward to a respite from the view of the world from my house windows and Mathews County. Wish me luck!

Reel men fish on Wednesdays

Sounds like awesome fun and a splendid way to spend some time. Sunfish are awesome on the fly. Happy for you to get out and enjoy yourself

And it was splendid, if not all the way to awesome. Lotsa little bluegills, nothing of size, and once I got back into the hang of getting up under the low brush to the shade, it was Katy bar the door, but they weren't large enough to get excited. Did get a foot long bass as well, but it was the heat of a hot day, not a lot of shade, and the water was murky from recent rains so it wasn't exactly prime. I know there are bigger 'gills in the pond, but honestly, it was fun and a good chance to refresh the fly casting necessary to squeak under stuff where the bream congregate on a sunny day. Could likely have caught fish with streamers or nymphs in the deeper cooler water, but I just wanted to see the popping bug get popped.
The Fat Tire was a real hit, afterward. Lot of fun to hang and share a brew with a bud again.

Reel men fish on Wednesdays

Nothing beats a good popper bite even the small bream on a 3/4 weight can be loads of fun and makes bass a nice challenge. Congrats on getting out and doing a bit of socializing, dont know what youve got till its gone am I right? My sister just had her first child in the begining of all this stuff and she hasnt gotten out in month and months. Beside the babbling baby she doesnt get much cognitive discussion outside of phone calls and I can tell it takes its toll.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Hope you have a great time fish! Even though I see friends we keep our distance. Glad you're getting out0!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

He has a small (tiny) pond with bass and sunfish, and I am breaking out the fly rod for the first time in ages, for some solo popping bug pond fishing.

In my life, I've spent hundreds of hours doing exactly that...sounds like a blast!

I've done my time on them as well. I did have a lot of fun, small fish notwithstanding. Got six from one shade hole maybe three by three. I felt sorry for them and moved on, but it was fun to see the popper get slapped. No telling how many were in there. Did some skulling for the first time in a while. You never forget how to do it, but often forget how efficient it can be. Good day.

Reel men fish on Wednesdays

Made it out on the water by 515 am with my wife's cousin (his first time inshore fishing). I had my heart set on topwater trout where I've caught some Goliath's this year. Stellar solunar opportunity for the folks that keep an eye on that... Got out to my spot with an almost identical tide/wind/ water clarity setup as the last time I went out.. it was surprisingly slick calm and there was next to no surface activity which I thought was unusual. No action before 8am when solunar dropped off and the tide started moving back in. Started to see some bait getting worked. I had two huge blowups and one clapped my skitter V 3-4 times and couldn't choke it.. the second miss was something enormous... finally I was stoked (and slightly let down) to snag a 22" red on the topwater.. shortly after, he lands two back to back trout on a super spook (19" male and a 16" Female respectively). We kept cruising around without much luck and eventually ran into schools of reds all over the place in less than 2' of water. He snagged a few and I grabbed some with the largest coming in at 24.5". It ended up being a blast as he has never caught a red or trout much less on soft plastics and topwaters. We did stumble upon a single cruiser red that was roughly 40" cruising around the shallows- was not spooked by us, but was also not interested in eating a zman- lol! All in all awesome day on the water, yet again!

Please, I beg of you. Send some of those reds up to the Mobjack.

Reel men fish on Wednesdays

They were only a few miles away

So near, and yet so far away. I don't trust my trailer out of Mathews County and I'd be flying blind to go out of Mobjack and up the York. Perhaps the day will come we can chase them together. If they do show, I have promised French a drum trip even if I have to wear a mask!

Reel men fish on Wednesdays

40" in the shallows would have me frozen. That would have been a crazy eat. Nice work staying on your red bite.

Can't spell DBU without Bud

Evening everyone. I just got back from my first day trip down to the OBX since our move. I packed light (a bucktail rod, some bucktails, some fluoro leader, braid scissors, and food/drinks) to focus on finding a cobia.

The bad news- Jennette's has established new pier hours- opening at 7AM and closing at 9PM. The 7AM start time is brutal. First, if you want to live bait, you are getting there well after the best window for loading your bait bucket with small bluefish. Even more so, every drum I have caught except one the last two years has been at sunrise. If they keep these hours in the fall, drum fishing is going to be a dumpster fire, after already being complicated by the lack of rebuilt piers and the three bluefish limit.

The good news- lots of it. First, I learned that Avalon is supposed to rebuild the pier in November, with the original length plus 100 feet. I hope that is true. I am ready to go back there. Second, the cobia were showing themselves. I got three good shots, but couldn't get them to eat (all the fish I got throws at would have been throwbacks- 30-35 inchers.) Jake got three on a mantis shrimp pattern 3 oz jig (I was throwing 2 so 2 of his fish came on casts way out of my range.) A 30 pounder was lost just before being gaffed, and two other cobia chased baits in the king rigs. We also saw one king mackerel and two large blacktip sharks. There were TONS of menhaden pods swimming around.

The ugly news- well, I got skunked. Perhaps more vexing were the lack of other predators with all the menhaden around. In my younger days with that kind of pretty water and all that bait, you would have pods of jack crevalles slashing around. There were no spanish. Only a handful of bluefish big enough to hit a gotcha were around (although there were lots of candy bars if you wanted to use a sabiki.) And, I don't know if I saw 5 spots (nothing else) caught by bottom fishermen. I saw a wad of sheepshead on middle pilings under the pier, but nobody was sheepshead fishing.

All and all, I have had way worse days (can't beat 81 degrees, a sea breeze, and shots at cobia.) I am glad the temperature is mild. People aren't being awful about social distancing on the pier... until a fish was spotted. Nobody was wearing a mask. I masked up the whole time unless I had at least 10 feet in each direction (rare) and if it had been hotter I don't think I would have stayed long. Most of the fish were between 1-4pm, so I am glad it was pleasant even with the buff.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

Thats really odd for a fishing pier to have hours not based around sunrise and sunset. Feels kind of self inflicting to not be open at sunrise. Sounds like a solid day still and a day spent fishing is a day well spent.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Got out both days this weekend. Snakehead fishing on Saturday was really good. Got 5 between the 2 of us. Biggest being 33.5" on a hollow body frog. I think we caught all of them on hollow body frogs. Got my first ever snakeheads that day which was cool. The bigger one for me was in the upper 20s I think. It choked the frog so was more concerned about getting it unhooked Missed a couple eats as well. Sunday, we had perfect conditions as featherslinger said. Super dense fog for 2 hours where you could barely see 100 feet in front of you. Zero topwater blowups which is still confusing to me. Managed to get a stud on an MR27. Thrashed up top the whole fight. It was 24.5" with some solid girth. Got a small striper as well.

Can't spell DBU without Bud

Damn, those look good. I've decided I'm going after snakeheads in the Occoquan reservoir the rest of the summer. I've got a couple of types of topwater frogs I've started trying, but any tips would be appreciated. I put in at the Bull Run Marina, and I've seen them in and around that patch of grassy shallow water where Bull Run hits the reservoir proper but haven't convinced any to join me in the boat yet.

Well you've got a good start with seeing them and identifying habitat for them. New to this but here's my takeaways. So for the hollow body frogs we are popping them every second or even faster. Throw in a pause if you see one waking the bait then two quick pops to get a reaction. This bait is for more once you located fish in a smaller area. We throw zoom horny toads on weighted owner swimbait hooks and retrieving fast to cover water and move fish. Those can be your search bait or a buzzbait or chatterbait if you don't have super thick vegetation under the surface.

Can't spell DBU without Bud

I'll second the horny toad as a killer search bait if you cant use a buzz bait. Dunno why but a watermelon red flake horny toad is irresistible when theyre honed in on frogs. I usually pitch it comepletely weightless to be able to retrieve it as slow as possible.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

I tried using it weightless first but casting distance is less and doesn't make as big of disturbance. Since we are purely power fishing with it, it works out

Can't spell DBU without Bud

Also if you're getting short strikes on those hollow bodies, especially with a fast retrieve, try a Lake Fork trailer hook. Can make a huge difference in your strike to land ratio and generally don't get you hung unless your frogs tend to roll. That's more of a problem with cheaper frogs.

Lake Fork frog trailer

You and 'slinger are really representing this summer. It's nice to see what can be done with perseverance and persistence. Well did!

Reel men fish on Wednesdays

Thanks Tom! It's been a special summer for sure.

Can't spell DBU without Bud

Been taking my boys out for them to learn about fishing. Lot of tangled lines and needing a ton of patience. No real luck on reeling anything in. Was hoping to get some bluegills here this past weekend, but nothing biting. Luckily my oldest is being a good sport and hasn't given up.

We have been lure fishing on a starter kit. Didn't want to go deep if they weren't into it. I'm thinking I need to pick up a some other lures and get some live bait.

We haven't been getting there early and it's been pretty hot too, so I'm assuming that is playing into it as well.

Previously LowBrau.

What kind of water are you fishing? If bluegills are what youre looking for and you dont want to use bobbers and bait a pink and white skirt mini tube suspended under a bobber can be dynamite for bluegills and really any color combo can work pink with a white skirt is what I used to use growing up. This is a good starter kit or you can grab a few boxes of a couple different patterns for just as cheap at a local tackle shop.

Strike King Bitsy Minnows are also a really easy to fish crankbait you can play with till you get some bites they work well as suspended or shallow cranks and the bream love them as do bass and crappie.

If you dont mind using bait go get a tube or half tube of crickets from a bait shop and a bobber and some smaller hooks and hook them behind the head and out the abdomen and throw them anywhere fishy along the shoreline or in the shade and if there is a bream home they wont hesitate on a cricket.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

excellent starter kit.

blue and white is killer...also the black/fire and black/chartreuse

I've been hitting fresh water lakes around the DC Metro area. Was at Clopper Lake this past weekend. Saw a lot of little fish at the shore or under dock that checked out bait out, and felt a few nibbles, but nothing for sure.

The starter kit I had has a few of the Tubes with a skirt you sent, so maybe it was the color combo. Initially I had the bobber with these set up about 3 or so inches below. Issue is, I end up having to clear up a bunch of knots. The boys tend to have these whirling around a bunch and then it just goes nuts.

I tried a few other lures and setups. Tried a bass set up, with the weight down below and one of those soft minnow lures. No luck with that either.

I have something similar to the Crankbait you linked, just felt like that may have been a bit big for what I was thinking was in the water. So guess I'll have to try it next time.

I've tried a multitude of reeling methods, to try and get good movement.

I've been wanting to get live bait to see if that helps.

The good part, is when we are fishing, no one else seems to be catching anything either. So may not just be me, haha. I've only seen a couple small fish caught, none on lures, at the three lakes I've been to.

I used to fish lakes when I was younger and never had this much issue. I'm fine with it, but i worry that my boys may get discouraged, haha.

Previously LowBrau.

I would echo 'nator and dave, but they covered it from the artificial approach.
My take on teaching kids about bluegill fishing is to start with the simple basics, cheap and easily done. That is a small bobber, a small split shot a couple of inches above a small hook baited with red wriggler worms you can get at Walmart, even. Dig 'em up if you have a place. Hook them so they'll stay on the hook but leave the ends free to wriggle. Concentrate around docks or any shade with enough water to hold them. Fish the middle of the water column, regardless of depth.
This is worm fishing for bluegill 101 and has produced forever. Guaranteed to work if the fish are there. If you can see fish, you can catch fish (talkin' bluegills here). Run outta worms? Use bread, or even better, homemade dough. Flour, water a little garlic salt and vanilla, mold it on the hook. Mealworms from the pet store work as well. 'Nator is right about the crickets, too.
Get a cane pole for the kids. No casting, no reeling. If the fish are reachable that is, but kids love cane pole bobber fishing once they get the drift. As you know, the trick is to get straight to the reward to keep them in the game, and all of the advice you've gotten from TKP will help that happen.

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Cane pole is a killer idea with youngins to keep them from tying the line in a million knots. Also on the bait depth you definitely want to get it deeper than 3". Try getting it down nearer the bottom say 10-12 inches off the bottom no need to be exact but that will help get the bobber out of sight out of mind for the fish. If you go crickets youll need a small light split shot weight to clamp on the line about 12 inches above the bait to help get it to sink. Say a 1/16 ounce split shot would do the trick.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Awesome, thanks everyone for your help here. Was trying a few things, and this gives me a few more.

I'll have to try the dough suggestion as well.

The boys have become pretty good at casting, the reeling is where they have the issue, haha. We are one man down at the moment, as the top of his pole broke. was planning on checking out walmart for a new rod and figured i would check on some other things. I'll keep my eyes open on all of these suggestions.

Also, my oldest seems to be still pretty interested. He has been pretty good about realizing we have only gone a few times. So he is being a good sport about it, I just feel like we need to get a reward soon. Like i said, we have seen the smaller fish in the water, but have only seen one or two people catch fish while we are out. I think if people were hauling in loads and we weren't, he would be more upset. But I think it's helped him realize it takes some time.

Thanks again everyone.

Previously LowBrau.

And if you don't like the dirt under the finger nails issues with the red wigglers, mealworms work great and are already small sized so you don't have to tear them into pieces.

Granted, finding a bait supplier in NOVA is it's own headache. If the Dicks at Fair Lake's doesn't have it, try the hardware shop just west of the Route 29/Glebe Road interchange north of Ballston.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

I'm in NE DC, so may be even worse, haha. I was looking for someplace i could hit up on my way to Clopper Lake this past weekend, which is up in Gaithersburg. Nothing really along the route.

I did see that Walmart has a sale on nightcrawlers, haha.

Previously LowBrau.

They have weird hours and are expensive, but Cheverly Sports Fair carries bloodworms so they may have other bait.

The spot for snakeheads is Blackwater Refuge. You can catch them from shore with live minnows under a bobber.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

Not sure we are at snakeheads yet, haha.

I went to Walmart last nigh, picked up some of the recommendations for lures above, some stinky bait, and they had mealworms and other perserved type of stuff. Picked up a new rod too since one of them broke last time.

Surprisingly, the Walmart was pretty bare of fishing stuff. I still need to get me a good tackle box, as I'm just carrying the gear in a couple of Plano boxes in my back pack. Though, may be time to reorganize those boxes a little, and that may actually be enough.

I'll note your recommendations and check it out.

Also, anyone heard of the app Fishbrain? Anyone use it?

Previously LowBrau.

Yeah, Walmarts have really gone down hill on their tackle availability, especially there local around DC. The only things I buy at Walmart for fishing are: 1) fishbites (cheaper than anywhere else) 2) Rapala braid scissors ($2.96- I have at least one pair in every bag) and 3) the cheap pliers from the automotive/tool section.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

Walmart in the Ashland area tends to have a decent amount of stuff typically but sometimes like right now with so many people out and about giving fishing a go things are low right now and even the wholesalers are having issues keeping stuff stocked right now. Sounds like you got some good stuff hopefully it works out next time, the biggest lesson you learn fishing is sometimes its not the fishing thats the best part and more the company kept.

I've looked through some apps but still never used one so cant offer much suggestion there. Learning how simple weather patterns effect a bite can help you alot with knowing if its a peak time or not but those apps probably simplify it.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

There are defintely some serious supply chain issues with fishing equipment. GreenTop and the BPS near Richmond are stripped bare right now.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

Yup greentop is right by where I work so I swing by a bit but have hardly gone this year as every time I'm in there they dont have what I need, its made it a pain getting stuff to fish with anymore as the BPS is no better and tends to not have the more local baits I look for. Going by today for a few last minute things but not counting on anything so hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised.

Edit, Greentop was semi stocked with stuff still empty of most bargain brand stuff I like but they had some jig heads and soft plastics I needed which was refreshing. They have the 20% off bucket sale on right now and I've been needing a reel so I picked up a diawa Fuego on the discount which is better than the Lew's I have that all are broken.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

same with Academy and West Marine.

Strike Zone in Jax is in relatively decent shape but Avid Angler here in St Aug is pretty picked over.

I've always been of the mindset that it's all about being outdoors, the company, and just a way to relax. So i don't mind not catching anything. It's almost like meditating.

My only concern with catching something right now is for the little guys. I'm glad that my oldest has realized that there is more to it and he is being patient about it.

Definitely loaded up with some good stuff. Going to be busy this weekend, so may wait till the following to try it out. May also help to just take my oldest next time. It's not exactly meditative at the moment when I have to constantly fix someone's pole, or they are yelling about how they got stuck in the grass, etc.

Previously LowBrau.

Your mindset is a good one, even the right one, but kids? You are right, production is imperative for their interest not to wane. I always suggest a trout pond or something like that for kids as being a great way to more or less guarantee success. Costs a little, but can really get things going for them.

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I may have to look into that. I'm going to give this a shot with the new gear I picked up and see how it goes.

I've also mentioned to them that we may need to get up earlier, so we can hit them for breakfast.

Previously LowBrau.

The issue with the app is its only as good as the people that use it. Those that are old salts would never ever in a million years go on an app. And definitely wouldn't give up their honey holes. I have it on my phone, but basically use it as a check for what's crowded and what's not. If there are a ton of posts from the past week, you know it's going to be crowded. That is absolutely not what I want from a few hours of fishing. So, just be forewarned...sometimes the place with only a few catches might be the best spot of them all.

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

I used it just to see options. Initially I was told Cash Lake and Lake Artesmia were good options, but we had no luck there. So using the app, it at least showed me where other waterways may be and what type of fish may be in there. I don't plan on adding my info, even if it keeps emailing me to add it, haha.

I plan on creating my own data as I find good spots, so that we know what has worked and what hasn't.

Previously LowBrau.

Sounds like you've got it figured out.
Enjoy!

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Plenty of Spanish down at Cape Point and in the sound around the south point of Hatteras Island.

JP

I can only imagine how crowded it is at Cape Point with how small its gotten.

Can't spell DBU without Bud

It's not too bad at 7 am. I'm in and out of there by 8:30 or 9. Not a great beach for recreational swimming and surfing. We go down to the Billy Mitchell Airfield for swimming, beer and bbq!!

JP

Yeah that makes sense. I figure it will be real bad during drum season. 48/49 is definitely a lot flatter and family friendly. I stay in Frisco when I'm down there so I always drive thru that section to the point.

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3rdGen: Going to Frisco Woods in mid-September. Camping in our Airstream. Gonna get beach driving pass. Gonna wet some lines with the wife and our 2 Golden retrievers on the beach. The family oriented ramp approach applies. Nothing too hard core. Saw your comment on access 48/49. Are the vehicle free boundaries and seasonal ORV boundaries well marked? Checked Google Maps and I see that Ramp 49 is quite convenient from there. Don't see ramp 48.
Also, anyone have info on Ocracoke beach access ramps? Same situation. Just wanna be safe and have a good time. Thanks in advance.

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Yep, some good troughs thru there for some sea mullet, puffers, puppy drum etc. You access it via ramp 49 from there you can either drive the backroad or down the beach. You have to get out at 48 which puts you on the backroad again which takes you to the ramp 43/44 area or go back to the ramp 49. You can drive a quarter mile or so past the ramp 48 exit and there should be stakes up there to stop you.
https://www.nps.gov/caha/planyourvisit/maps.htm
Haven't driven on Ocracoke but that map you should show everything you need.

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Thanks for speedy reply. Saw that map. Appreciate it! Tight Lines!
On Ocracoke, was trying to get anyone with info on which might be best for beachside fishing and hanging out with our pups. My wife and I have some secret haunts on sound side for clams, oysters, and scallops. Probably not doing that with pups in tow though...

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Not much help on Ocracoke surf. My family friend usually goes down there in October. He's said its changed there depending on the year. I'd do a lot of driving at low tide and see what looks fishy.

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I'd love some info on Ocracoke too. Haven't been on that beach in at least 10 years. We used to drive all the way down to the south point of Ocracoke on the beach....then you could turn right with the island and fish the south point and sound side down there. Is that still possible?

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Gonna be on the New from Thursday on or atleast hoping to but the weather doesnt look great. What levels are safe to float it and at what flow rates do people recommend staying on shore? Never been on it when it was low and slow and just wanna have an idea on the riskier levels so I can know whether to go or not if we get a decent rain or two to raise the river.

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Man, you'd think I'd know how to answer this one after spending 26 years on that river, but I can't. It depends on too many factors. Your craft is #1. Never paddled a kayak, and for the bulk of the time I fished it after early years in a canoe, it was my buddy's jet boat or guide rafts. Ton of difference. Also, rain gets to the feeders in different ways, depending on the what and the where. Where would you float? When the river's too high in Giles, it is often still floatable up toward Independence and above Claytor.
While I love high water in the spring, it isn't as productive later in the year. Color is good, but muddy isn't.
My friend Jim Richmond would be a good person to ask if you want his number. He's a good person, you have fished with him, and he wouldn't mind your call, I'd warrant. Don't want to call him? Call the New River Outdoor Company or whatever Stoudenmire is calling Canoe the New these days and check with them, even if you have to dissemble a bit and say you are checking kayak rentals. Those folks won't lie to rent a boat, while another of the well known outfitters will do anything for a buck.
Good luck, let me know if you don't still have Jim's number, but that's what I'd do.

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Thats a good idea actually, I still have his number from the last time I talked to him so if it gets to where I need an experts opinion I'll give him a ring. We normally stick around McCoy falls area but this time we were gonna look into fishing a few different stretches we havent tried yet but we are still very green in understanding the flow of the New but I'll keep that in mind if we find one stretch gets muddled a bit to try going up river or not. I think were near Pembroke this time but gonna try and move around more than we typically do and maybe look more off the beaten path.

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My favorite float is Ripplemead to Bluff City. I avoided McCoy area, too accessible. The Ripp to Bluff stretch has it all. Cliffs, rapids, vistas, wildlife, you name it, it's there. I've seen golden and bald eagles, herons blue and green and even night herons, an owl that was carrying the picked down carcass of a young of the year turkey, swimming bears and deer, mink galore, and turkeys flying low across the river. Nothing a kayak can't handle, and really only one tricky rapid, though Clendennin Falls near the end has a scary look on approach, but is super easy to run if the 3-4' standing wave on river left doesn't scare you (hint, it shouldn't, you just slip right over it and it's fun) and while improved access since I left is going to cause more people on the water, it's still an iconic New River float. There's good water from Eggleston to the West Va. line, though, and plenty of floats to choose from. Really though, give Jim a call. He'll be able to tell you every fish they've caught and where for the last month. More importantly, you can glean the info on river flow you need. He's tuned in, I'm tuned out.

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We were looking at the ripplemead float actually so thats good to hear its worth trying out. Have you ever messed around with Walker Creek? Just realized were staying right by where it flows into the New and was looking so see if it might be worth checking out for possible small water fishing.
Rapids are nothing I ever scoff a good fun run through anytime I can hit some I do, most of us are in yaks and one or two canoes sometimes but I like my yak for rapids alone.

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I lived on Wabash Creek, a two mile long spring creek that dumped into Big Walker. I've fished Walker a lot. The mouth at the New can hold fish, but isn't all that in the summer. Pembroke to Walker, which is there at Ripplemeade, is a good short float, especially if you can just float back to where you are staying. Walker is aptly named in the summertime, you'd be walking your boat a fair amount, even in a yak.
The Ripp-Bluff is my favorite, and I've floated it literally hundreds of times in canoe and raft. If I were to go to the New, it would be my choice forever. I will admit, I know it so well that I can pretty much predict what you'll catch and where for the entire float and not be far off. I'd be happy to give you a blow by blow of what to do on the river, where to bother with, where to skip if you like, but it'll have to be in a phone call and you'd have to take notes. And LISTEN. I'm as close to an expert on that particular float as you are likely ever to meet. If the fishing sucks in the river, it won't be different there, but the float is so magnificant, I'd take it before any other on the river. The Eggleston to Pembroke float is very scenic in places as well, but the row/paddle out through the pond above Pembroke is a pain in the butt and usually unproductive water for all but a few dinks and a couple of midriver humps that might hold muskies if not fished twenty times before you get there. You have my number if you are interested in a blow by blow, and also on tips for the two major rapids you will encounter.
If, however, you are staying in one of the NROC cabins up the way on Walker, you'd have to use the Ripp ramp, but if I were to mess with BW in the summer, I'd fly rod and popping bug it wading, and be happy with a few dinks and redeyes near the rental. If the water's up, you might enjoy the paddling, but the fishing wouldn't be worth skipping time on the New for.

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Interesting stuff on the big walker Creek I was thinking more of it had trout potentially but if I got in search of higher ground due to rain or a muddied new I may go to the Cascades area for some trout stalking. Nothing but relaxing fishing and eating where were going so I'll have time to explore as well.

I may take ya up on the discussion on the ripplemead stretch, I'm always eager to learn and listen as much as possible. I've been around long enough to go grey but I've learned I know and have seen very very little this world has to offer so I never turn down a chance to learn. We're on the river front at the confluence of big walker and the new not the NROC cabins so I think I could wade into it easily.

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Jesse, I can and will be happy to talk you through that entire float. You're a good fisherman and experienced in the kayak, so you should have a great time on that float. I can also clue you into a spot or two that aren't obvious, but have historically produced. Look forward to talking with you. I know what you mean about always having stuff to learn. I'm lost here in the salt, but I do know that stretch of the New.

Yeah, the nroc cabins are upstream of the mouth, I didn't know folks were renting there at the confluence. I know some folks who own a house there. That makes the Pembroke to home float a definite half day/evening float. As for trout, Big Walker has some way up high on private land that is stocked in winter, some where Dismal feeds in, as far down as White Gate and the dam my old friend Creed owns, but they are a winter spring thing and essentially there aren't trout to be had this time of year in Walker, and it's not a trout stream anytime of the year.

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I'll shoot ya an email in a minute. I couldnt agree with the lost in the salt more for myself as well if only saltwater was as easy as river fishing sometimes eh? Though I do enjoy the variety of what you find in the salt to be refreshing sometimes.
Packed all my stuff yesterday all the trout gear I have is brook trout stuff so if we get washed I may just go scout a few places and hike but we shall see. Thanks for the intel on the walker creek I may explore it if time allows looking like I may have some free time but that might also get spent just in a hammock by the river.

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Yeah, Stony or Dismal for some trout would be good spots for them, but you can't go wrong with the hammock either.

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must be summer in FL...50%-80% chance of rain for all but one day (40%) of the next 2 weeks.

mower is going to get some work in

Looking for a charter.... but sure what I'm looking for yet though.

Time: October
Location: NC, SC, GA, maybe FL
What: I only know what I don't want to target. I don't want to go after reds/trout/flounder.

Can't really figure out what's good to fish for outside of bull reds in October. I don't care if it's inshore or offshore i just want to fish for something that I can't target easily from my place.

Suggestions?

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snook

If you wanna go to the naples area I know a guide who I would highly recommend for mangrove fishing and or beach and deep water stuff. Guys got an awesome boat and he knows his stuff and can put you on huge snook.

Updated to add link since I found it finally.
https://www.facebook.com/Capt.jameswebb

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I would think that nothing inshore other than snook would be worth it. Maybe a little later you could go on sailfish charter in Florida or go with Capt. Rick Croson out of Wilmington, jigging/popping or trolling offshore. https://livingwatersguidenc.com/fall-season/

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Yeah not to worried if its inshore/nearshore/offshore. I know most of the SC and GA guides will be targeting big drum which I generally do in my own boat and would rather not pay a guide for.

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Yeah you have caught some solid over slots. There's bigger drum to be had in NC but agree not worth a charter. I'd highly recommend Mike Jackson or Rick Croson for some jigging and popping fun.

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Gave him a shout might be perfect amount of active fishing for us. Definitely gets bonus points for reaching out to me while he's on an overnight trip.

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Yep, on the trips we do we exclusively jig and pop but could mix in trolling for wahoo, sailfish, blackfin for a break. It's real nice to be interactive and makes you feel like you did a lot of the work. You need the captain for the knowledge of whats happening and the few hundred thousand dollar boat. We are scheduled to go out with Captain Rick on October 18th.

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Man that's a wide range of potential fun- me personally- id go for a Everglades tarpon trip... but that is just me!

I would rather be fishing today. There have been some really nice king mackerel caught in the last few days down at Seaview Pier (Topsail.) I heard there was one caught at Jennettes yesterday as well.

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Welp, the summer has gotten away. I wanted to do a Bay trip on a flounder pounder this weekend with my son, whose going to be a Sr this year. Well, he has to work the next 8 days. I know I could go by myself, but that defeats the purpose. And the flounder have been stacked on top of each other the past few weeks....

So I bought a Conservation Area Pass for Delaware. Going to hit the Assawoman Wildlife Area Saturday morning, and just wet a line. Get out. Away from the computer, the tv, the junk. And see what I can see. Nice thing is there are freshwater impoundments with largemouth bass. And turn around, it's the Assawoman Bay. We'll see what's biting. And how peaceful it is out there...

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Assawoman Wildlife Area is gorgeous. Too bad there are a ton of chicken-neckers out there...

Ended up at Indian River Inlet. Not much going on there. A few black sea bass the length of a cell phone and some other bites. At least there was a breeze and it wasn't 103* with 182% humidity. Did get to see a few spanish mackerels go full dolphin jumping out of the water. Pretty fish.

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Recent heavy rains have shuffled the deck here.

Got up very early and hit the flooded oyster bars where all the activity was last time...2 half hearted blowups on the topwaters...that was it.

Headed to a small creek that drains off the coast looking for better water. On my fave Slayer, picked up 2 dink trout and, yes, a hardhead cat. Some undersized reds were working over a school of tiny shrimp they had pinned in a shallow cove. My offerings neither spooked them, nor impressed them. So a dinner plate sized sea turtle and I just watched the activity before I headed in

You won't hear me say this often...it's probably time to attack the surf at least until we get a dry spell

I wish they'd shut it down for a year or two, but it ain't happening. There are lots of really smaller fish hanging around docks, piers and especially the Gwynn's Island bridge. Neighbor Hokie Paul took video of them swarming bait. Looked like feeding time at the trout farm, or a gutshot cow in a piranha attack. Thing is, a lot of the mid sized fish are absent, and even the schools in the fall don't have decent fish in any numbers.

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Excited to hear flounder season in NC aligns with my next couple vacations. I initially thought it would just open back up after Labor Day. Will probably be most successful if they leave it as a "season" format for the fishery

If you know their usual haunts, they are thick in NC, especially around Masonboro Inlet and Wilimington.

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My Hokie buddy on Topsail is excited. They've been catching a few, while not targeting them yet, but his son saw a "huge" flounder while paddle boarding the other day and they're all hot to trot for the season to open now. Flounder fishing on this side of the Bay, at least for me, has been a bust, essentially, for the last several years. Good luck down there.

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After 1 1/2 months of drought we are building arks here in Central VA. The beavers are driving me crazy.

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Finally decided to sell the boat. If you know anyone that's interested in a 2017 range bay rp190, let me know. I'll pay a finder's fee. She has a 6' power pole plus a minn Kota trolling motor with spot lock.

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Oh no! Why. That's a nice boat!

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Switching to something else?

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Brief details? Price?

It's a 18' 8" Center Console w/ a 115 Yamaha Sho (probably 20 hrs on the motor). I just don't use it enough to justify keeping it - she's too big for what's close to me (river). I'll get the specifics tomorrow, but it has a 2 fish finders, an 80lb thrust minn kota w/ spot lock and autopilot, a bimini top, and the power pole. If it ever stops raining, I'll take some current pics and get them posted this coming week, but she's been kept under a car port w/ a boat cover. I haven't looked at pricing yet, but I'd guess somewhere around $20k would make sense.

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THIS BOAT IS A GREAT BOAT!!!!!!
That said, I am sorry to see that you are selling it, but I understand your quandry. It is a lot of boat for most of your local fishing, and not quite built for the Bay, though it is perfect for the closer inshore fishing opportunities.
Somebody's gonna get a darned fine watercraft, as it was Bristol the times I've been in it. Good luck, and let us know what you replace it with.

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Random question, what's the full trailered length?

Right at 23' w/ the tongue folded; add another 2' if you unfold it. The trolling motor is the Terrova 80, and I got the foot control go with it.

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That 115 Sho is an absolute gem on this boat.

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Edit: I should read better, got my models mixed up

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This sea captain has piloted said boat. Take that for what you will, all who consider purchasing it...

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You didnt touch the trailer did you?

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Yes, I towed it with Truck Norris.

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how much water does it draw? Ranger is not particularly transparent on their specs

If I measure the water line to the keel, it looks like 14 to 15".

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This is the one thing about this boat that makes no sense- much heavier boats in this class draw like 10" total.. only place I saw said 1'10" or something..

Also- does it have a jack plate?

Agreed Feather, I figured it would draft 10-12". Couldn't be more than a bay boat.

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Negative on the jack plate - that was next on my wish list and would be a great upgrade/addition.

A couple of thoughts on the draw:

  • I suspect the weight of this boat works against it. The boat is so light, all the weight (humans, motor, gas, batteries, pumps) are near the back, so it's butt heavy. If more of that weight were distributed to the front, you'd have more surface area in contact w/ the water, which would help raise the rear. Given that fiberglass boats are heavier all around, my guess is it helps w/ the offset in this case. I dunno, just my theory.
  • I'd be very cautious about someone saying they have a true 10" draw on a bay boat. Seems like an inexact science (and it's not an area I've spent much time thinking about so I could be way off), but I'd wonder how that was measured - w/ the motor trimmed up or all the way down? At rest or on the move. Was there someone in the boat when you measured that? Industry standard for a flats boat is allegedly 12" (obviously many can go lower), but I suspect your average bay boat would be somewhere between 12" and 15" based on that. Interesting topic. :-)

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I'd be very cautious about someone saying they have a true 10" draw on a bay boat. Seems like an inexact science (and it's not an area I've spent much time thinking about so I could be way off), but I'd wonder how that was measured - w/ the motor trimmed up or all the way down? At rest or on the move. Was there someone in the boat when you measured that? Industry standard for a flats boat is allegedly 12" (obviously many can go lower), but I suspect your average bay boat would be somewhere between 12" and 15" based on that. Interesting topic. :-)

Unless otherwise stated listed manufacturer draw is usually with just motor and fuel at rest. I can vouch that a Tidewater 2100 baymax is about 12" real draft with 2 people full fuel tank cooler gear and 5 batteries. They list 10" on the website. Boats like the East Cape Vantage are listed as a full loaded draft and are pretty much dead on from the one I looked at.

Part of the reason poling skiffs are able to get skinny is drawing 8-9" sitting and how the weight is typically distributed. You've got a narrower beam and then are usually spreading the weight between the back of the boat (guy poling) and the front (guy fishing) which will flatten out just about any flats boat because most true flats boats are significantly lighter than bay boats. I would guess it would take 3 people on my casting platform before I even noticed a forward weight shift on my bayboat.

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So yeah, just like I said ("and it's not an area I've spent much time thinking about so I could be way off").

Thanks for sharing!

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NP aluminum hulls are even more tricky. As you stated the lightness of the material comes into play with weight distribution but the amount of flotation (foam) used varies wildly. a 3 piece fiberglass construction between bay boats are all going to have just about the same amount of flotation, aluminum hulls have less area for foam so weight has a greater effect on how low it sits.

Basically boat draft is the mostly immeasurable until you sit in the boat and measure lol all the estimates are wildly different than real life draft.

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I saw the same spec and that's why I asked...doesn't make a lot of sense.

My old Scout 145 specs at 8" but that was with a Yamaha 2 stroke. The newer 4 stroke is 50 pounds heavier and on a short 500 lb hull, that is a big deal. It was drawing over a foot when I bought it. By repositioning the cranking battery from the rear forward to the console and adding a TM/battery on the bow, it's right at 10" with my wife and I in it.

My mako pro 16 skiff claims 8" with a 4 stroke 40.. and I can comfortably say I've been afloat many times in 6" where I couldn't even get my trolling motor to propel the boat because I couldn't get enough of the prop in the water.. it has a really unique hull design which must lead to that somehow.

Anyone out there have any experience with Blue Sky pontoons?

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Well the pilgrimage to the New was a bust this year for the fishing atleast. Still had a blast taking in the scenery and having a good time with friends and family but as far as the fishing I've never worked that hard for one smallmouth in my life. Fished thursday as the water began to rise and stain and the fish didnt want to cooperate, all said one of the best ledges of the trip had scuba divers all over it which peeved me a bit as the rest of the float stunk after that it seemed. Per some killer advice on one of the floats from Ifish I salvaged the day below pembroke and caught a few fish to brighten the day and end on a positive note but the fishing between Eggleston and Pembroke was pretty dissapointing and I'm not sure if the rising water was to blame or not.

That all said the remainder of the trip was summed up by an old johnny cash song and it went something along the lines of, "How highs the water mama? 6 feet high and rising. How high's the water papa? 7 feet high and rising." It started raining thursday night and it didnt quit the until sunday afternoon. We floated Whitehorne to McCoy Falls on friday even with the river up a bit more and turned to chocolate milk and managed 2 fish, 16 inches and 19 inches respectively and the one fishing newbie with us snagged the 19 inch fish and now hes hooked so it made the day worth it getting drenched and chucking spinner baits and cranks in the rain. Got to McCoy with no fish at hand so I decided to dump gear and take a swing at McCoy Falls to have fun and found out the nucanoe is not meant for whitewater in any form, luckily even in my inebriated state I knew how to float a rapid on my ass after getting dumped by the first huge wave and took a nice swim after to get to solid ground but still had fun. For anyone who wants the full length video and commentary to go along with it.

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Fished again on saturday and took a friend on the Eggleston to Pembroke float since Pembroke below looked a bit daunting with the water approaching 6.5 feet and he had never done that stretch and wanted to see the scenery so we did the previous float and at the end I finally broke the skunk on a smallmouth on a spinner bait. It rained on us the entire way on saturday and didnt quit all night and into sunday. Gotta say next time I'll make sure to bring a few spinnerbaits that are the right size and more compact but I'll also probably do the smarter thing and just stay on land, its too easy to lose all manner of baits when its up that high and the fishing aint worth it when its like that.

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"When the levee breaks....have no place to stay!" Glad you got away!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Fortunately I grew up doing whitewater so I knew enough of how to handle a situation that didn't go as planned and having done quite a few rapids outside of the watercraft it wasn't too bad at all. I know I was good entertainment for the people all sitting on the shore watching as I dumped all the empty beer cans out before I went through they knew it was gonna be worth the watch.

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Went out Sunday. Small trout all over on top in the morning. Missed a good one while I was messing with something at the helm and my spook was just floating around. Got a 19" red on cut mullet. He was delicious. Sorry didn't take a single picture馃し鈥嶁檪锔

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Just popping in to say a quick hello to y'all. Work has been nucking futs lately, so reading your posts have been the closest thing to fishing that I've had. I was supposed to have a vacation day today and had the go-ahead form the Mrs. to spend it on the water, but I ended up in the office.

Keep posting stories and pictures! It keeps me sane!

Warning- Filter lost.

"Look at this... This is just spectacular.... These people are losing their minds"

any of y'all tried a bottom sweeper jig in the surf?

I haven't but think it would work better connection to bait that typical high low rig.

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I had to crank up the ol' google machine for this one. Looks interesting for live baiting. Touted a lot for the sheepshead and tog crowd, but drum mentioned in what I read. I know it's tough to fish jigs in heavier surf and when there is strong current, and maybe this would help with that to keep my Gulp on the bottom. Learn something new every day.

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I ordered a couple because you can get decent weight on a relatively small hook. We'll see how it holds up when I can go out without fear of lightning.

edit: speaking of which, quite the show for about 30 minutes...several hits within a quarter mile.

edit 2: added some eyes & a little glitter; I think she's cute!

Cute as a bug. I like eyes a lot, and a bit o' glitter is always a good fish attraction. I often mess with my jig heads, and dress hooks as well. Those trout eye jigs I finally stocked up on some, I used a red with glitter nail polish and put it on the bare metal on the head. Two coats of color, two coats of Hard as Nails clear, and they're definitely a better looking jig than they come in the package. Little tricky around those huge eyes not to accidently leave a bit of polish on them, but worth it to me for a better looking jig.

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Drift boaters of RVA: A buddy and I are trying to set up a mini daytime excursion on the James to target smalldogs. We are based in Richmond and would like to get some tips on floating in the city, as well as outside. Obviously water levels will be taken seriously. I have heard on here before watkins to robious is full of pleasure boaters and not very fishy so we can eliminate that. Z dam is somewhat of a problem as well but I have only ever tubed in city limits(ish) so I am just not familiar enough with trying to get a drift boat through. We plan on parking trucks on each end of the float. I have heard the James up near Scottville is fertile but overall just looking for suggestions. We aren't necessarily chasing trophies, just want to catch some fish and have fun and float for a half a day or so, maybe more than once.

I have fished the James 1000 times below the fall line. I have caught 1 smallie about 10". I don't know of many being caught in the fall line.

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We settled on Scottsville to Hardware boat ramp. I'm sorry about your luck below the fall line, I know there wouldn't be any big ones down that way but I have seen people pull 10-14" out as of late (pre rain). Mainly was looking at that float due to convenience/ always thought it would be fun to fish that area.

That's ok murph. All my lower James stuff has been for the LMB.

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Love me some LMB. Probably going to have to change plans and snatch a few of those this weekend unless this rain upstream holds off and the water stays going down.

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Byrd Park lake has some new structure in it!馃槀

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I can't believe how many small lakes are around me and none of them seem to be accessible.

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If you want to meet up sometime I can point you in the right direction. Happy to share all of my intel for fishing around here. Except my two favorite redfish spots. Those will cost you $20,000 and require a blindfold.

I would suggest getting an Outdoor Access pass. There's a few ponds within 45 minutes that have some good fishing.

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Headed to figure 8 tomorrow (just outside Wilmington to the north) barrier island with a ton of fishy looking marshes behind it. Hoping to find some luck. Anyone ever been nearby?

Good luck. I don't know there area, but EliasVFishing seems to do really well in the backwater behind Masonboro Inlet for everything from reds and trout to sheepshead. Hopefully someone else chimes in.

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Very difficult fishery as it reminded me a lot of Murell's inlet, SC. Very large tidal swings With steep banks dropping off. Nothing like the inshore fishing of obx and around our bay... only caught lizardfish, and flounder on artificial... went out on the beach at night and caught ghost crabs and tried using them as sheepshead bait around the bridges.. lots of baits stolen and one monster hookup that could've spooled my 3000. Wrapped me around a piling. I'm thinking it was a big sheeps... went to a local tackle shop and ended up buying a cast net and threw that on the last morning for mullet/menhaden. Went over to the inlet and caught flounder, blues, Black Sea bass, lizardfish, and broke off what I believe was a skate... still not what we had hoped for. Definitely a unique fishery that I wish I could've been better prepared for.

Yes, it's been a transition for me this summer to do more of the flats thing in VA being used to NC marshes with current. Most of my experience is in the fall down there. Throw your jighead upcurrent and let it swing while twitching it occasionally but make sure it falls back to the bottom. Find oysters and deeper holes. I haven't been keeping up with Eastern Currents podcast as much but I'm sure they would have good advice since he guides that area.

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Chummed for cobia on Friday, got a 45" on a live spot. Got a low 30s rat on a live eel and a ray on a live spot. Went gar fishing Sunday afternoon, got two solid ones, a dink and a dink catfish.

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This is looking like my first skunk year on cobia since 2013. I am jealous. Well done.

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We have had a pretty good August at SML fishing for bass. The water temp at the beginning of the month was 88 and the big bass were deep. Rain has helped bring the water temp back down to 82-83 and our pattern has been unaffected. We targeted long points in major creeks/main channel where we could find natural rock. Presentations were pretty simple, Strike King 6XD on 12lb fluorocarbon line and a Texas rigged 10in worm with a 1/2 oz tungsten weight/bead/clacker combo on 15lb fluorocarbon. We had a 6.30, a few in the 5-6lb range and several in the 4-5lb range. I have to fish my ass off just to keep up with my 15 yr old son.

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Alright, we got a beach house for this weekend in Broadkill, DE, just south of Prime Hook and just north of Lewes. Private beach access right on the Delaware Bay. I have a few longer rods, and got some spike holders. Also have some sputnik sinkers, with a sinker slide and floating surf rigs. Looking to get clams, bloodworms, and already have squid fishbites. Am I missing anything besides the beer selection? Any tips, tricks, do's/don'ts? Just looking to pass the time mostly. Is it more active at nighttime?

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I don't know that area as well, but I would guess that you can get away with fishing one rod with bloodworms and small hooks for spot- the spot bite has supposedly been out of this world at Cape Henlopen Pier/State Park this summer.

Then, on a bigger rod, fish finger mullet with a bluefish rig for blues. They should be around.

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I'm a Delaware fisherman! Broadkill is a nice spot....as long as the wind is blowing the right way. Watch out for the green head biting flies. Gulp swimming minnows on a jig head might get you some flounder or (weakfish)trout. Try picking up some peeler crabs at the bait shop too - croaker like them.
Try fishing around the rocks at the Roosevelt Inlet, just south of you where the Broadkill River enters the bay. I'd start by throwing some of the Gulp minnows there.

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Welp, trying to get out of the house for a quick weekend, and it looks like Laura will be blowing over on Saturday. Maybe we can make a game out of surf fishing at least. A couple of teenagers in tow, so toss your rod out and see what we can find.

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So far filled up the cooler with croaker. And my ankles are bleeding from the flies. Looking forward to spicy fish nuggets tomorrow.

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Nice!

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Finally went out today. Procrastination and apathy finally put aside, and my first fishing with anyone else since pre virus. We slayed 'em. Met at 5:30 and fished some lights until we could see. Couple of dinks, rat red and foot long striper, several bites, but nothing worth messing with. Went out to the mouth of the East River, Mobjack was kicked up with whitecaps, so we stayed in the river. 15-20 mph wind made things tough for dock and structure fishing. Again, got a couple of dinks from dock areas, but then we made for a local structural feature and hit the mother lode. Red after red after red. All were slots, nothing less than 21, or more than 24+. No skinny cigars here, either, high sided thick and kick your light tackle ass reds. We took turns, one of us on net, one fighting a red. The unfortunate part was that the fish were closely oriented to pilings that were loaded with barnacles and oysters. We both had several fish break us off on the pilings because they were so strong we couldn't keep them out of the traps. I've caught my share of reds, but these were the biggest for their length I've ever experienced. I lost a bunch of jigs, and went through two and a half bags of what they seemed to prefer...3" copper penny gulp shrimp with the chartreuse tail, on quarter oz heads, big eye at first, but then cheap strike king as the break off toll mounted. We put five in the box, all we wanted, and then released a bunch. We lost count, eventually, and I was glad when it was my turn to net so I could rest my arm. They would also hit gulp swimming mullet, 4" in chartreuse, but ignored my gulp shrimp pearl with chartreuse tail. We fished an area you could park a schoolbus in, and they bit for a little over an hour before we moved on. There were still fish on the pilings, but they'd gotten so close that we were just giving jigs away, so we went back toward the ramp and hit a couple of docks along the way. Both docks produced rat reds and a few small trout, but again, the reds were up under the dock and hard to get out, even though they weren't bigger than maybe 13".
All in all, it was a fantastic morning on the water, and I am hard put to remember an hour in the salt that would top those reds.
I'm heading to the cleaning station now, but my companion said that all three of his were full of crabs.

EDIT: Addition. I kept the two smallest, both 22", and together they weighed 11 pounds. Nice fish.

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wooooo! congrats!

Congratulations!! We are all stoked for you!

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Awesome report. Glad you got into them. Thanks for the intel

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Thanks, friends. It was about time. I'm getting a good feeling about September.

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Glad to hear you finally got out and put some fresh fillets on the table!

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Finally the water has cooled and looks like I wasnt the only one finding the drum and specks. Wade fished all day saturday around the mouth of the east and bumped over to my spot on the north after that and had a successful day. All in all I think we caught 15 fish mostly small drum around 12-15 inches but still fun on medium light gear.Did snag a couple dink trout and one 17 inch trout which ties my old PB so that felt good. They were hitting everything from shrimp to curly tail jigs to swimbaits, they didnt seem too picky at all and were feeding heavily once the tides started falling.
Sunday went out and fished the rappahannock around whitestone for spot and found plenty of good eating sized spot and too many dink croaker which we turned into bluefish bait and to my surprise we snagged 5 nice sized bluefish on cut baby croaker and spot. Its been ages since the last time I had some fresh caught bluefish for dinner and it was oh so sweet.

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Water's cooled? It was 83 yesterday morning in the East. We went out again this morning, found plenty of rat reds on the docks, a handful of small trout up to 15", and I got two more good slot drum (22-23") and had one pull off. Bigger drum on gulp swimming mullet, dock fish on both the mullet and the gulp shrimp (3" pearl w/ chartreuse tail). Also got one nice sized croaker, and a dink striper. My buddy got the trout on a trout trick, but the reds wouldn't touch it. He fished top water both days without a strike.
While the dock reds were small, they were a real blast on light tackle, and if it wasn't so darned hot, I'd still be out there casting. Too bad that both of us are not of the phone as a camera generation, so no pics to show, sorry.

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Atleast it felt a bit cooler saturday morning when we were out wading much cooler than a few weeks ago when I was last out. Dunno if that was the difference or not just found them to be far more active and engaged than I have anytime earlier this summer. Interesting stuff on the trout trick how was he fishing it? I've got a bunch just hard to put the gulp down when its working so well.

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I asked my buddy and he said the water had cooled to 79 or so over the weekend, but jumped back up yesterday. I didn't ask and he didn't say what it was today. The drum seemed pretty active despite the temps and muddy water, but I would say the tandem discouraged the trout. The water has been pretty muddy for a while now, and we haven't had any rain now for a while, so not sure why.
He fished the trout trick like he fishes the Super Fluke or Bass Assassin, on a quarter oz jig head and twitched back fishing the middle of the water column. I stayed on Gulp since topwater wasn't happening at all, but the trout weren't interested in it at all. The reds were dead ass on the bottom, and as the sun rose, retreated to the shade of the docks. Hit the shade and get bit, pretty much.

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Yeah I thought it felt way cooler but it was also much cloudier with a dark brown haze but that didnt stop the gulp from working! Was hoping to find some yellow bellies in the rapp but so far only whites but the bluefish made it worth it dealing with a few rays and all. The one major concern was the fact we caught so few croaker while bottom fishing with bloodworm and peeler crabs.
I'll be fishing the trout trick more next time to see if I can figure it out since I still havent figured out topwater. I found the same thing bouncing the gulp along the bottom was the ticket for the reds and keeping it higher up was more for trout. All that said I completely forgot I hooked something I have no idea what it was. It looked exactly like a ladyfish in size, length, fight, and color but it shook off right at my feet but I never got a solid look at it.

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Could it have been a ribbon (cutlass) fish? I know they don't look like a ladyfish out of water, but they are different and very, very shiny in the water. They love Gulp, too, and fight fairly well until you're pulling them out of the water where their lack of body thickness gives it away.

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Now that you mention it that has to be what it was. I dont think ladyfish come near the chesapeake though I could be wrong but the silver flash was way more than anything else normal in that river and no way it was a perch or croaker being like a eel shape.

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Yeah, the cutlass fish is a spectacular looking fish, and I've never seen a more silver colored fish in my fishing life, like liquid mercury. I caught them last year for the first time ever in Va. and nobody at all in this county here had ever seen or heard of them, even long time fishermen. They have really big and sharp teeth, and seem to like structure as we caught them in the East River near old pilings and also around the bridge at Gwynn's Island. They love Gulp and will bite your jig off as often as not. I haven't seen any yet this year, but my Hokie neighbor has caught three in the last couple of weeks.
Where I did see them before was in North Carolina when we caught a couple while flounder fishing. My buddy, Hokie B, kept them both and said they were the top bait for trolling for king mackerel, even after freezing, which I attributed to their thin body shape which allowed for attractive undulations and that improbable silver color's flash. They grow really large, but we haven't caught anything over maybe 30" or so. They hit hard and fight well until they get to the boat where they give up and you look down and see just the head as their body just hangs straight down when they're worn out. If you catch one, take great care unhooking them as those teeth will slice you like a sneaky razor and you're bleeding before you know you've been slashed. I knew them as ribbon fish, but cutlass seems to be the right name.

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Huh kinda glad he shook off then as I was wading that wouldve been a difficult fish to unhook while chest deep in the river. The more you know the better I guess next time maybe I'll get one in the net.

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Forgot to mention that my neighbor caught all three of his last week on top water.

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Admit it, it's the hat.

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I'll admit its served me well, gonna be up on the jackson in mid september so hopefully it works its magic up there.

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Going to be in OBX from Friday until Labor Day. I'll be fishing from the beach for Spanish and whatever else bites and from my kayak in the sound until Slinger gets down there with his boat mid week. I usually launch from the kayak launch next to Oregon Inlet Fishing Center and the flats and sloughs there have always been productive, but wondering if there's a lesser known kayak launch that's not too much farther (or maybe closer)? We're up in Kitty Hawk so it takes a while to get there (and even longer to get back with traffic). Just looking to maximize my time. I've taken notes from old fishing threads on when to fish and what to fish with but any tips are as always appreciated. I've researched a few places online but this thread is usually a better source of info. Not looking for any secret spots just launch points and I can try to figure out the rest.

Get the go paddling app and you will see a ton of launches way closer to you. I haven't fished there but I bet the marsh in Kitty Hawk bay will produce fish.

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Wow that app is a game changer thank you. I've read mixed reviews about kitty hawk bay. There's limited info online but success seems to depend on the salinity levels since it's brackish. The marsh looks fishy and is only 10 minutes away so might give it a shot.

Yep, its awesome! I follow a few guys down there in Northern OBX on instagram and see them fishing marshes so not sure if it's there or more Roanoke Island/Jennettes pier area

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a lot of those prime marshes are supposedly on the backside of pea island too

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Gotcha, I've always heard that's a good area to fish. Trying to play instagram detective is tough haha

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It's a good spot. It has grass, bait, tide fluctuation and it's shallow enough that even my boat gets stuck in there so the pressure, in theory, is lighter.

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This is why my redfish photos have no backgrounds. I encourage everyone to do so because my best flat in NC is being ruined by tons of other boats and guides on it, and they keep every red they catch of keepable size.

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Yep, can't be too careful with your fishing info. That's what happens to good spots. Seems like you are finding a few at least.

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Yep. I told ONE close fishing friend about it. Told him not to post or talk about it. Three days later he posts on IG the exact creek put in with a picture of his kayak and that he was off to catch redfish. Not fishing with him any longer.

The good news is that one still has to put the time and effort in. Other good news is fish have tails and no homes so they move about. Problem is when a spot grows from a few people knowing about it, to a few more, it grows like wildfire. My top spot I only show to very specific people and mostly because they fish just a few times a year or already know about it. Luckily I was able to find a second spot this past week that might be even better. It is much harder to get to as well. But man if I showed you a back drop, one could find it easily with some digging. Good thing its chock full of oyster bars to get a boat hung up on and the greenheads are fucking vicious.

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Lol

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Some people just have to let everyone know where they are and what they are doing at all times. When he sees a bunch of boats in the spot then he will keep things close to the vest. Sorry about him blowing up your spot.

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Thanks man, live and learn

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I have/had a walleye hole in Claytor Lake for about 20 years. While it was sort of known locally as a good place to fish, I figured it out for walleye and kept my mouth shut. Thing is, I liked fishing with my fishing buddies, and so, of course, I started taking people there. Well, over the many years, those people then started taking their friends there, and so on, and so on. Now, a lot of people who fished that hole didn't know enough about those particular walleye in that hole, where they congregated, and how best to catch them, so if they weren't with me, they struck out often enough to keep the hole at least a semi-guarded secret. I also knew they were there so I could fish three or four hours without giving up in confidence, waiting for the bite. A friend who lives there told me last month that in the spring now, there might be 18 boats in that hole on the weekend. We're talking 25-40' of water, and big flathead cats, channel cats, stripers, hybrids and muskies, too. All hitting that 1/4oz minnow tipped jig along with some really fine walleye. My largest was 7-7, but two years after I moved, a guy I know caught one over 13 lbs, so it was a righteous spot. I fished that hole hundreds of times, and could count on one hand the times I had another boat for company, while I never fished on the weekend.
It is a risk to take a buddy, but at some point, it's not nearly as much fun without a friend along to enjoy it with you. Price you pay, I guess.

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Yep, we've had issues with that with some of our trout spots this summer.

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Man people suck, sorry to hear some people cant keep the mouth shut and just enjoy something but I guess thats the world we live in where everyones out craving attention and will do anything like that. Aint nothing worse than rolling up a good hidden spot for a few people to be in there but someone whos a friend spoiling it thats some messed up shit.

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Go launch on the other side of Oregon Inlet. There's a public access point on Pea Island maybe a half mile down after the bridge. Huge grass flats back there. 1/4 ounce Johnson Silver minnow in gold or copper. Cast and burn, covering water, over and over. You should stick some redfish.

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Fly Guy, are you talking the parking pull out for Goat Island and the path that leads to Eagle Nest Bay? That is about 2+ miles past the Bonner bridge.

I didn't see anything closer. Thanks

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No clue what it's called. It's a small paved parking lot on the right side and yes there is a bay there. It leads directly out to 3 foot deep grass flats and there's a redfish swimming around there with a hole in his mouth from my spoon.

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That describes that area pretty well. Hope someone finds that red.

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It may be more like two miles down. I just found it on the map. It is just past the New Inlet bridge on the right hand side. Tons and tons of fishable grass flats for redfish. Lots of puppy drum down there this year.

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Really appreciate all the info. Went there Saturday morning (note to self always check the wind forecast the night before) and got skunked and blown around. Had white caps rolling over the front of my kayak in the marsh. It was miserable even with pedal drive. I called it quits early and fished the beach that afternoon where my wife of course caught a bunch of spot and I caught nothing. I've since got on the board with a few spot, mullet and Pompano in the surf but nothing picture worthy.
Heading back to pea island in the morning to try to redeem myself.

I've spent a lot of time in a kayak and 12 mph wind is the max for me.

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Agreed, I've fished in 15 mph and it's definitely not fun but you can do it with a good anchoring system and keeping the wind at your back. Definitely still challenging and makes you question why you are out there.

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How big was the Pomp? Thanks for the news.

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Caught a bunch. Anywhere from a couple inches to 8 inches. Caught all of them where the waves recede at the first "drop" off the beach. When a wave crashes the bait is underwater, when it recedes the top bait might be out of the water. Super shallow. All on a homemade double rig with fish bites.

Pomps in that position also love sand fleas if they are available. Soft shelled ones are the best, but they'll eat the hard ones also. That's likely why they are in the place you caught them.

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I am not sure about launches, but that far north is probably going to produce more brackish water and stuff like stripers (around the wright bridge) instead of puppy drum and trout. If you don't want to go to OI, I think there is a launch near Gary Oliver's tackle shop on the Causeway between Nags Head and Manteo, near the Little Bridge. That area has been a consistent producer of trout and the bridge (where people would normally fish from) is closed to pedestrians because of social distancing issues.

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Took the day off to mow the lawn, but took a ride around to Williams Wharf on the East River and rolled up to see a young fellow bowed righteously up with a big fish throbbing his pole. (Make of that what you will) Turned out to be a big southern ray, maybe 50-60 lbs. Took him a half hour to finally get it up to the wharf, but there was no way to land it for release. Finally, I helped him cut it off as closely as I could. He couldn't break it off, he had 45lb test and a steel leader, expecting a shark on his live spot. Trash fish, for sure, but the fellow had a ball catching it and really handled it quite well on gear that was a little overmatched. Talked to a kayaker of three and they had only caught a couple of croaker, fishing shrimp. Sometimes, just getting out and talking to others fishing is good enough, and it's why I really enjoy all of the disparate posts here on TKP. Looks like a bit of a cool down next week, and I hope to get back out there and capitalize on the buzz from the nice reds this week.

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Pretty work! Looking forward to a long fishing report and hopefully uneventful trailer report.

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Thank you.

hopefully uneventful trailer report.

Now that's funny...

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uneventful trailer report.

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Damn dude, what a beauty! After this virus crap is over I'm going to try and make a point of coming up there and getting some reds with you.

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"Look at this... This is just spectacular.... These people are losing their minds"

I have the opportunity to head down to NC to Kure Beach in mid Oct.
I understand drum are running at about that time. Any hints for surf fishing there at that time?
I have not done it in about 30 years.

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A big part of it is being able to read the beach and finding troughs and breaks in the bar. The other part is having fresh bait which you can get from a local tackle shop. They should be able to help you with any gear questions. Either you will use a double hook bottom rig or fishfinder rig with cut mullet/shrimp/sand fleas.

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My cousin has tackle and we have used cut fish before for bait for just screwing around and letting my daughters fish.

I get the message there. Find info on reading the sandbar.

There is usually a good sized sandbar right where his house is and this summer it was really dramatic.

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Yep, I can send some links later but a google search should turn up good images. The key is finding the irregularities and breaks in the bar. Easiest to spot at low tide.

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Well as if 2020 hasnt been a swift kick in the groin already the family bass pond had a major failing on the spill pipe and the whole 3 acre pond is completely gone along with all the fish. Looks like the pipe came loose at the base and the water followed it out the other side of the damn but somehow didnt manage to wipeout the damn. Next week is gonna be a fun week in the mud trying to get the pipe fixed and all since this will be a much bigger project than I'm used to undertaking. Gonna try and make lemonade out of this shit sandwhich and put alot more structure out in the pond and make the spill pipe more beaver proof as well and try to make it easier to clean out as well.

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Ouch. That's a tough one.

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ouch! that totally sucks.

Sorry to hear about this, but it wouldn't be a bad opportunity to throw out some seeds and flood it later for duck hunting.

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If it wasnt all swamp and marsh above and below it we might do it since I'm gonna have be getting a bird dog in the near future that will need somewhere to work but luckily we have enough swamp and marsh around to manage.

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What a drag, man. But what you mentioned is definitely a good way to deal with it. Enhance and mark new structure, and do some careful thinking about what to do about restocking. You get a unique opportunity to do it right with all the modern information about managing ponds. 3 acres is enough to give you a lot of options. Empty slate, blank pallet...have at it!

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Speaking of structure does anyone have experience using non treated pallets? We throw away excessive numbers of pallets at work and I was thinking of using them in stacks and possibly lagging them together to form towers and I'm not sure if I'd need to weight them down or not? I'd figure four or five stacked together would be enough weight and there is minimal current in this pond so I feel those would be good deeper water structures.

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Damn dude, hope y'all can get it fixed up and restocked with some more structure.

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Something to consider. Try to keep your depth at the overflow under 10' if you are in VA. Otherwise you are dam that is subject to regulation by the Department of Environmental Quality requiring annual inspections. The regulations are height or size...

Gonna reply to everyone here but thanks everyone for the thoughts hopefully I can figure out the failure and address it or plan to this week. Gonna be up there going over everything hopefully later today or tomorrow to see what happened in detail.

For anyone with recent experience dealing with DCR or DEQ in the pond building or dam work would anyone know with whom to start discussing the potential needs for permits? Everything I find online aint much help in that they dont list who is actually the one to talk with.

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Spent a while on this site today printing out forms, now I just need to find out whether we need to file for a new structure or if theres some other form since this was already an exhisting pond that simply needs to have the damn and spill pipe better engineered for this time or not. There are a bunch of exemptions but nothing like that so I'll have to ask around to a few friends in DOF and DEQ to see what the verbage is around that stuff.

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Ya call Bubba, he comes on the weekend, you do what you want and ask for forgiveness if you run afoul of the regs?

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Swung out to my spot last night after work on the last hour of the rising tide, got out and was fishing by 5, caught a dozen reds up to 26.5 in about an hour- winds picked up and the bite shut down. The 3 hours of driving was worth it for the best hour of fishing I've had all year!!!

Way to go. I also had my best hour of fishing I've had in a couple of years last week. Reds will do that for you, won't they. All of our fish Monday were at dead low tide.

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That's how all of mine had been in the last two trips to this spot (dead low or just starting to rise) I figured at high tide they'd be closer to grass edges, but they were still in the same area. Bait was bombing everywhere but you could tell where there were fish feeding versus just bait scattering. Looking for slicks was the key

Interestingly to me, there were hoards of baitfish in the area, but after cleaning the 7 we kept in the two days we fished, all 7 were loaded up with little one inch crabs, the kind you find on pilings hiding in amongst the barnacles and vegetation growing on them. The first drum I caught Monday coughed up a couple of them live and ready to get gone, proving we interrupted them actively crabbing. Not a baitfish to be discerned in the stomachs of any of them, although the small drum we got off of the docks were spitting up bits of baitfish when boated.
Also, a buddy of mine who lives on the Piankatank River fished day before yesterday and found one dock of three he fished was loaded up with small reds, up to 15". He landed six and broke off two from that dock. He also found small gray trout and short stripers around the Rt3 bridge over the 'Tank.
The guy I fished with earlier in the week fished the same area we'd found them in hard on Friday without a bite, so our fish aren't as predictable as the ones you are getting into, but it is encouraging to hear that you can at least count on them enough to keep after them and find them.
You and I both need to get on the photo train, but I must admit that I quit taking pictures several years back when I realized that I had enough of them to choke an elephant and nobody to show them to. It's also tough without the gopro stuff like flyguy has to get those photos when you are alone, and then there is my total lack of tech savvy that still won't let me even try to post photos on TKP. Shout out to 3rdGen, though, since he seems to be able to do a good job of both.

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y'all aren't having any trouble catching them but when they are keying on fiddlers down here (winter), that little black jig I throw is really effective bounced on the bottom.

I had great luck with my Gulp shrimp in the copper penny chartreuse tail on whatever jig head I grabbed. When I ran out of them, they wouldn't touch the pearl with chart. tail at all, but would hit the swimming mullet in chartreuse. Go figger, huh? The crabs are a brown color, perhaps that's part of it, and I've always had luck getting them to hit a swimming mullet gulp. We had no trouble getting a fish on our baits and often didn't get to work the bait at all as it seemed to fall into their mouths before we could close the bail and tighten up, but I believe I did feel more confident with the copper shrimp before I ran out and wouldn't have switched otherwise. My fishing buddy had a few casts with his trout trick, then tried a fluke for a couple of casts, but once he put on his swimming mullet, he was in business.
My problem is that we don't have enough reds around to practice with other baits once they're hitting, except for the dock rats, maybe. A little black jig would sure save me a ton of money on Gulp, and all of the reds I catch these days are dead ass on the bottom. One of my biggest failings as a fisherman is not branching out bait-wise. Out fish me once or twice with something, though, and I'm a shameless imitator. THAT, I'm good at.

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Not to me. Just the little file looking thing. Hope it's not on my end, but I do seem to see that often enough on posts. I love looking at everybody else's fish pictures.
Anyway, heading out tomorrow for another go at them.

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Yep, I see it there. Thanks, nice fish! Guess it's my turn.

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nice red!

Oh that's purty!

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Once you get to that part, you need to hit shareable links and do the BB code to get the picture to show up on TKP.

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Could you explain this a little further?

go to imgur, hit new post in top left, browse for your picture, once you hit open and your picture is on the screen, hit those three dots in the upper right, hit share links, the third one down BB code (forums) hit copy and paste that into the picture icon in the comment box.

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I must have a strange version Or I'm dumb- when I hit the three dots it gives me the option to edit, delete, or refresh

I was able to post one photo one time a couple of years ago, but have never been able to duplicate my success. I'll just leave it to the savvy and keep the pics in my memory, I guess.

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I do it from my laptop usually so that might make a difference versus the mobile app.

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The mobile version doesnt work right and I've never been able to use the mobile version to post stuff on here. Desktop version allows you to get the direct link which is the easiest way to get the photos on here.

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Guess I'll stick to posting the links!

Or, you could do as I've done a few times and email your photos to someone who will post it for you. At least until they get tired of it. My problem is also that I don't think about photos on the water and once they're dead, they just look...well...dead. I will admit that I'm mad at myself for not taking dead fish photos of the drum I got last week, though. They were noticeably different from the usual 23" drum I've caught, and the fish was "taller" from the belly to the dorsal than any I've seen pictured here. Don't know why, but if I get lucky enough to find another like them, I will make it my job to get a photo here.

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Fish I will post your pics anytime.

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Thanks, Musky. 3rdGen and French have been kind enough as well. I do appreciate it and hopefully I'll follow through.

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If we catch some fish I'll show you how to get it to work. I've gotten it to work from my phone. And yes I definitely just jinxed the success of both fish catching and fish posting.

I'll type up a little how to article for the fishing thread with pictures to help people figure it out since it can be tricky at times.

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If you can do it so I can understand it, it would be a good service, though lots of people on a bunch of different threads have explained how to get it to work. I'm so close to computer illiteracy that it'll be a toss up whether I can follow even simple instructions. I don't know what "copy and paste" means, so that's the kind of hurdle I need to know how to jump over. Right now, I'm wishin' I could borrow somebody's kid or grandkid for a couple of hours. No more than that, now, but a couple of hours might do it.

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Its pretty simple really if you can keep it simple is all I ever say to my dad when I try and teach him computer stuff. Honestly Imgur is the simplest format to getting a direct photo on here I know of so I'll type up a step by step with photos of how to do it so its a click by click guide and hopefully it will help someone out.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

If you can make it easy enough that I can do it, then b'God, I'll give up my redfish hole (where the big ones were the other day, anyway) to you.
By the way, my Hokie neighbor went last evening and they had 4 nice slot drum on, two broke off, one pulled off, and the other one went 23". Their first casts resulted in a double, and they were trying to fight both fish, keep them separated, and get them netted, resulting in angler error, but the environment is just not going to allow for easy fighting, what with the barnacles, etc. on the pilings. Oh yeah, the water temps dropped from 83+ last evening to 80 this morning in the East, and they went after the drum again this morning, but only caught two dink trout. Salt water fishing can make you crazy!

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dock procedure here...

hook fish; grab spool and walk to back of boat to pull fish away from pilings; if fish is still on, then fight said fish

Yeah, I'm familiar with that, but we are so tight on the pilings for these particular fish (when they're there) that we don't really have the time to do more than set the hook, grab the spool and hope we can keep them clear long enough to fight them out of the pilings. Not enough room on the boat to really effect the true dock procedure. We know we cannot just pull them out, they're too darned strong for that, and often they're already beyond that point before we can even start the fight. It's a tough place to fish, no lie, and to get half of the hooked fish landed would be good. I did get two of three last Tuesday, with one pulling off, but that morning they were located a bit out of the piling mess, at least enough for me to work them out. I'd say that Monday's action resulted in about 50% landed, but my line was a bit light for the work. Not so for my neighbor, though, and one of four yesterday was frustrating for him and his buddy. He runs 15lb braid with a 20lb leader, but a razor edge touching line stretched out and loaded up with non-giving braid behind it cuts that leader like it's sewing thread.
Still in all, it's the kind of fishing problem you hope to have if you have one, isn't it?

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actually, it sounds like a blast!

Y'all, I can't believe it but I finally got the kayak out for a full 3.5 hours today.... I thought I'd never get the chance again the way things have been going...

Played with a school of redfish on a mud flat for a solid 45minutes before I FUBAR'd a cast and put the fly smack in the middle of them. Never saw them again today. Went east to a honey holy and picked up a Snook around 25" in the mangroves and got cut off by another one, and then went back to the mud flat again because I'm stubborn.

Tide switched while I was out so I went to a spot that has great flow between 2 mangrove islands- about 20 feet with some grass and spotty oysters between them. Started throwing a fly that I cooked up (can't take credit for the original pattern- only that I made it as close as possible with the material I had in stock) and hooked up with a nice redfish. Little booger wrapped up around my anchor while I was screwing with my net, so that was fun... Went 26" though!

Spent the rest of the time looking for trout, because I wanted the slam, but never found any...

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I wish I could stick snook or reds on the same trip.

You will see this game, this upset and this sign next on ESPN Sportscenter. Virginia Tech 31 Miami 7

I wish I could get reds consistently. Snook I have down pretty well (this time of year that's easy- they're everywhere).

When the Rona is over, I really want to get up your way and get some reds on fly with you.

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Sounds good. If you are looking for consistent redfish action, we need to go to NC.

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Pretty work man! Glad you finally got your red.

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Thanks! 2nd red ever for me but the first on fly. Definitely more fun with a fly rod. He made some serious runs back towards the mangroves. Addicting. Way. Too. Addicting!

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Went this morning from the East to the North. The Mobjack Bay was like a mixing bowl, with 2-3' waves, but I got through and hit some docks. Got 9 reds and two stripers on my go to. Reds and stripers were small. 11-13 for the reds, 12 and 16 for the rocks. Ended up with 14 small reds, the two stripers, a big croaker, a big white perch and a dinky worm sized lizard fish that a nightcrawler could have mated with.
Had two bites in 'nator's creek, one hooked up, but pulled off. I think it was another small red.
Too much wind, but still, fish were caught.

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YES!

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