OT: September Fishing Thread

Well, the Dog Days thread has been moribund for three days, true dog day stuff, so I thought I'd try for a ray of hope with the September skies and soon (I hope) to be falling temperatures and nights less humid than Equador. Here at the Bay, we are hoping for trout and rockfish to amp it up as the water cools.
So here's the forum for all your questions, suggestions, gripes and miseries related even tangentially to the world of fishing, boats, crappy trailers, baits and gear. Welcome to the Fall and may our Saturday fishing be interrupted by Hokie Football!!! A feller can hope, can't he?

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I'll start off with a short report. Fished for three hours this morning looking for reds and trout in the East River of the Mobjack Bay in the Chesapeake Bay, for orientation purposes. We didn't do all that well. Got a couple of rat reds, and a half dozen dink trout and a lizardfish. All mine on Gulp, my buddy caught a couple of trout on a trout trick with scent added.
Afterward, I did some riding around and stopped by the Gwynn's Island boat ramp and started up a conversation with a fellow launching a jon boat there. He saw my VT hat and started talking like a Hokie. I noticed his visor had a turkey on it and away we went. He was a nice fellow and it was fun talking with him, although it was mostly fishing. He has a TKP handle that typically, I forgot in minutes, but I won't forget his name and here's a big shout out to Matt and hope he had a good day today, despite the brutal heat. Meeting a Hokie on the boat ramp is like hitting the trifecta for me, and it always makes my day.

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I'll be out in the East this weekend so I was hoping for a little better of a report, but I appreciate it anyways. I'm still optimistic with the luck you've had there lately.

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Water was up to 84 degrees and still cloudy. Hopefully the holiday weekend crowd won't get in your way. I think I put the jinx on us today, though. I took a camera. Best of luck, please let us know how you do.

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Gale force winds today, ain't many going out and they aren't out for long, I'd guess.
When you do get out around here, I've heard things about the drop offs producing trout when the grass isn't too much to allow a clean retrieve.

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Tom, Thanks so much for the shout out. It was so great to meet another Hokie at what I plan to be my second home. Mathews is such a wonderful place. I ended up ok that day we talked. I was able to work my way up to an oyster field up the Piankatank and picked up a puppy drum and some croaker. I followed your advice and worked the channels of the Gwynn's Island bridge and picked up some croaker on the nightcrawlers. A nice day on the water. I get down there about 2/month for now exploring the area. Appreciate the advice on bait. I will certainly try the gulp next time. Looking forward to catching up again soon. Go Hokies!

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I'm so happy you found some fish. Keep me in mind when you're in town. Once this viral nonsense has abated, I'd be glad to take you 'round and show you some fishing holes I've found. You found one of my recent spots to at least try there at that oyster reef at the mouth of the Piankatank. It's a brand new reef, but this time of year it holds fish, if you can keep from snagging up in the oysters. We've not caught drum there, but tons of little black sea bass and even a nice 20" flounder, some trout and blues also roam over it. As that reef matures, I expect it will be a steady producer, plus you can get there in your jon boat rig.

EDIT: Matt, if you want to give me a shout next time you are in town, my phone number is (local 7_5)2680. It's a land line and all of Mathews has the same first three numbers. Look forward to seeing you around, and yes, GO HOKIES!!!!!!!

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Thanks, Tom! I will certainly do that. Look forward to catching up soon.

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Well i sold the old jon boat today,

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So, are you cryin' or celebratin'?

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oh man, you get anything to replace her?

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I'm looking at those little plastic buggies with the 2 raised swivel seats or maybe I'll go for one of the Blue Sky pontoons if I feel froggy and spend the big bucks. I Will catch a walleye in Little Creek!

Scott have you sold your's yet?

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Friend of mine went after mackerel a couple of days ago off of the Rappahannock. They slayed them. Caught maybe 30 smallish ones, then moved north and got into bigger fish. They boxed their limits and he said there were plenty still biting when they left, though the best bite was at the changing of the tides.
I figure he was trolling planers with small Clark spoons.
Also said they got into keeper gray trout and small redfish aroung the Rt.3 bridge over the Piankatank

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In Avon for the week. Brought some gear... Any recommendations for bait and timing of fishing? I rarely fish at the beach, so this newbie would appreciate any help!

Is coronavirus over yet?

Sand fleas on river rigs fished up close (lip of the beach.) You can get pups, pompano, sea mullet, and I have even heard that some sheepshead have been caught in the surf.

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Note- I don't know how to tie a river rig, but I have been told they are more effective than a dropper loop bottom rig like I tie.

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Much thanks! We were out last evening fishing, up near the lip of the beach, and hooked onto a dozen or so little pups, but that was on shrimp (what the guy at the pier gave us). It seems like there's quite a bit of action out there.

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I want to chime in on French's take. Sand fleas are one of the most underrated or overlooked fishing baits there is for NC surf angling. Croakers and flounder and pompano truly do love them. I've mentioned before that the soft shell fleas are the absolute best, and can be found with diligence, but the hard shells also work great, especially when there are a lot of fish around. My buddy used to use his kids to sort through the fleas for the soft shelled ones, paying them a nickle apiece. The kids loved it and we enjoyed the fruits of their "labor". The pomps would typically be in the curl, though the biggest ones are usually around the first sand bar off the beach. They come in with the waves, turn sideways so as to take advantage of the skinny water as it receded, snatching fleas in an inch of water on their way back out. Last year, I caught the two biggest ones I've ever caught on fish bites on the sand bar, but I'd fish the curl if I really wanted to catch pomps.

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Have you guys ever used the Gulp! fleas? I've always used fresh ones, but am headed down in 2 weeks and bought a couple packs of the artificial ones to try for the first time.

I've not used them, seen them only on line. Fleas are free and easy to get, but in lieu or in a non flea situation, I'll vouch for about anything Gulp makes. Like you, though, I'm interested to hear if anyone has messed with them.

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I went yesterday in the Africa-hot conditions we had here. Got into the middle of a mixed school of mullet and redfish, and could not get the redfish to commit to a single goddamn fly in my box. I had 3 inspections on a fly I tied on Friday night, all 3 refused when they got down into it...

Did get 3 snook to the boat, so that was fun. 1 keeper, but of course I was fishing in the closed zone... so nothing came home except my lobster-lookin self.

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Anyone with experience fishing Lake Burton in NE Ga? In December?

Daughter and BF's family will be there Christmas week. They'll have a boat with a depth finder and trolling motor, but are coastal types like me with no lake/reservoir experience.

All advice appreciated.

I went out around the Mobjack today. Started in the East, got skunked, went to the North and foul hooked one lizard fish into the boat. We did see fish hitting the surface in the North and one got on the hook but we didn't land it into the boat. I'm thinking they were spot, they weren't anything large.

After the East and North, we hit a reliable honey hole in the Mobjack. We saw a bunch of drum but they wouldn't bite on anything. We ended up getting one throw-back trout and one smaller keeper trout. Another person was fishing there and he said he couldn't get the drum to bite either but while we were there we eventually saw him pull in two ~20" ones.

After the Mobjack we went to the piankatank and got into a hole. We caught small drum and perch for an hour straight. No keepers, but still a good way to end the day.

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Nice day to be on the water, too. Did you run all that way, or trailer over to the Piankatank?
Thanks for the report, nice to have a hole on the Mobjack with drum in it.
I'm going Tuesday when the herd thins out and parking again becomes available at the ramps.

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The boat was trailered over. Good luck today and let me know if you can get those drum to bite. We used peelers and artificials and still couldn't get them.

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Been out modifying my trout eye and red eye jigs. I paint the heads with red sparkle fingernail polish and a clear coat of hard as nails, but I also got out a file and waled away on some of the red eye jigs to remove some lead for a lighter jig.
Reason is that I have lost a few fish lately with the trout eye jigs and I believe it is because of the short shank on the hook. For smaller fish, I don't sweat it, but the big reds have me wanting a bigger hook but not any more weight since I'm fishing reasonably shallow water with a lot of hang ups around.
Heading out early tomorrow to see if I can hang onto them a little better...if we can find 'em. I'm also going to finally try those swinging jig eye thingees with the Texas rigging. I put one on a popping cork, so that's pretty new for me. I'll bait it with my Gulp of choice, a 5" Jerk Shad in white and chartreuse. Rumors of trout around, and I'm sure my buddy will start out on top, so wish us luck.

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Fished the East and North all weekend but aside from 2 croaker it was no bueno that said with all the boat traffic maybe it wasnt a huge surprise. Did manage half a bushel of crabs in one day from the pots off the pier so atleast we got one good crab pick in before summers up.

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We met at 6 and fished until about 10:30. We couldn't fish a couple of places we wanted to because of the wind. Started out on a drop off and I got two 13" reds on a popping cork with a gulp jerk shad. My buddy threw topwater and didn't get a look. I had maybe three or four more bites with no hookups.
Moved to structure, and I got another small red and he got a 12 and 15" trout and a couple of small stripers. I also caught a sand perch, a nice spot, a small trout and a couple of lizard fish. My buddy then caught a gray trout (10") and I caught a whiting. 8 species, all of his on Zoom Super Flukes, all of mine on one sort of Gulp or another. We moved into the river and hit a dock that had a big school of small trout hanging around it. We caught several but since there was no size to any of them, we packed it in. Beautiful morning even after the wind came up, cloudy and not hot. Water was 81 degrees in the East and we could see a couple of feet so the water looked good. I didn't catch a striper, he couldn't find a red. While we were disappointed not to have a topwater trout bite early, or not to have found those bigger drum, it was, as usual, just great to be out there.

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Noticed the water as well this weekend it was super clear compared to a week ago or so when it was dark brown and this weekend it was really clear so I would imagine the fish were a bit pickier being able to see much better.

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Been surf fishing down in Avon about 500 yards south of the pier. To the advice above we tried our best to grab some sand fleas and fish just off the lip of the beach. It is ROUGH right now. Can't keep the bait on...

then today, at the advice of the guy at the bait and tackle shop down in Buxton, we went to bloodworms and couldn't reel them in fast enough. Mostly small Pompano with a croaker mixed in here and there. Rainy, windy and rough surf, but a whole lot of action.

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If it's alot of pompano fortunately you can stick in the first trough most likely and if it's really rough fishbites will last better than natural live baits. Sandflea stuff works too well then.

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Well, hokiegigs and I had quite an eventful time Fishing on this years family beach trip to the OBX. Every fishing outing was productive in some way or another whether we had to search or the stars aligned and we slayed them (not that we know what we are doing or anything).

First morning out was a grind, I had a huge missed topwater blowup at sunrise that I'd like to think was a gator trout but I'll never know, couple hours later and we found some weakfish (firsts for both of us), and some smaller puppy drum with one nicer fish to the boat.

Second trip was a flounder/sheepshead mission which was certainly a bust in terms of the flounder.. a spot that I had had significant luck in years past produced nothing. After we finished there we headed to the OI bridge in search of sheepies.. unfortunately the shop was out of fiddlers so we had to settle for frozen sand fleas.. first fish on was an enormous black drum (my first ever)that gave my 2500 Ci4 quite a run for its money on a ML rod. After continuous spool emptying runs, we finally got him in the net. Shortly after that we found a couple smaller sheep (also firsts for both of us) and gigs locked in a super thick 16" sheep! After another hour or so it seemed as though the bite had died off, we had headed back to the ramp with hopes to stop by a couple flats we had fished in previous years.. we got to a bar and realized the trolling motor was bottoming out, and there was a huge slick on the opposing drop off, so we got out and decided to wade fish. I tossed out and immediately hooked up on a red and so did gigs. We picked a couple others off and had several get loose. Timing was just superb and it was one heck of a way to end an already fun day!

Final fishing escapade was a lucky one, we happened to wade out in the sound with our soon to be brother-in-law who had never been saltwater fishing and we found what felt like endless redfish. None of us could believe our eyes at what was happening, but we hysterically enjoyed the moment as he seemingly became a redfish fan instantly!

Fun trip that yielded some of the best OBX fishing I have ever had!

Pics to come

That is a very pretty soundside fish

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Beautiful fish dude!

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Finally made it to imgur to see your fish. Great week, lots of fine fish, indeed. Thanks to you guys for the pics.

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In addition to slinger's post above finally getting around to posting about my second solo trip. First, thanks to flyguy for the launch spot. I went out last Wednesday morning at first light and dead low tide. It was so calm and humid that I was looking forward to the wind (ironic after getting blown around the previous Saturday). Picked up a small drum and a nice 17" trout that may have bit off more than he could chew. Picked up a bunch more trout on a super shallow grass flat. Found a school of a few tailing reds swirling around but decided to throw a fly and spooked them. Missed a solid red around the point and then went back and picked up a 20" red (my biggest in a few years) where I saw them schooling. I almost forgot how addicting that drag peeling is. Picked up a few more trout and a small red as the tide was coming in and then nothing for a while so I called it. Super fishy spot and fun to explore and get on some fish.
My wife and I also caught plenty more pomps and mullet in the surf mostly on bloodworm fish bites and some on sand fleas. And she got her first couple puppy drum wading in the sound. All in all a great week of doing mostly nothing and almost enough fishing.

You are welcome. Well done and glad you got into them. The term "endless fish," when describing fishing for reds, is my heaven.

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I'm going to Hatteras next week. Do you guys typically use leaders when fishing in the sound?

Unless I'm using braid not really. Just depends what you're targeting as well.

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Trout and drum

Then no you wont want one unless like I said above youre using braid. If braid then get some 12 or 15 pound flouro leader and use a blood, double uni, alberto whichever knot youre comfortable with. For the trout and drum a typical inshore rod and reel medium weight with mono will be just fine.

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How do you feel about the Albright knot for joining lines together?

Works well too. Everyone has their favorite knot. I prefer the FG, some like the uni to uni, bloodknot, albright, all preference

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Anyone use the six-turn surgeon's for braid to fluouro? It's the easiest/quickest knot I've found to tie. I got tired of screwing up the double uni knot so I switched and haven't had any issues since.

The surgeon's knot is routinely underused and under valued because it isn't as slick a presentation as those other knots are. Surgeon's knots are as strong as any other, I think, and so easy to tie, even in the dark. They definitely don't look as nice, but you can trim them close and they don't seem to hang up in the rod tip guide. Perfectionists will disagree, I'm sure, but there are a thousand knots out there if one wants to be a purist.

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The surgeons one is an easy one to learn and use. Personally I prefer the Albright knot for braid to flouro knot as its simple and goes through the guides smoothly and has been the most reliable for me.

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Yeah, I agree, but sometimes, expediency can chime in. Or, in my case, laziness. If I have the time and inclination I do one thing, but when I'm in a hurry or it really doesn't matter, I'll do another. Don't listen to the old man, though, always do it right. You'll profit from it in the long run, for sure. And certainly the more you tie a knot, the easier and more naturally it becomes for you.

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How long do you usually tie your leaders? I usually tie mine short enough to where the knot doesn't go into the guides but I can still cast effectively. 24" or so. So the size of the knot generally isn't an issue. In the slightly murky and usually shallow water I tend to fish I feel like the braid isn't going to spook them (or at least there's less of a chance) so the fluoro is more for abrasion resistance than stealth.
I run either 10 or 15 lb braid with 14 lb fluoro so the surgeon's knot is pretty small or at least I think it is. I'm going to try the Alberto and see how it slides through the guides compared to the surgeon's because having to swap out a leader after a few re-ties is a pain on the water so a longer leader would be nice.

with the "Alberto", you don't have to pre-cut the leader so you can cut to length as you see fit after you've tied it. And the knot will be about 1/3 less diameter since the braid is all that's wrapped. I fish medium to light spinning rods and 2500 series reels. No issue with the Alberto knot going thru the guides. Over time my leaders have gotten longer...probably around 3' now

edit: just measured one of my recently tied leaders at 4'

and the knot...

That's all I use now thanks to Dave. It's served me well. FG or PR knot if you need close to 100% break strength when fishing light tackle with heavy drag on bigger fish. Most braid breaks well above advertised breaking strength.

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for those that like to throw tandem rigs for speckled trout (or perhaps shad?), just leave the tag end of the leader long enough to tie a second jig.

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I cannot make it work. I am not a clever man!

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I can, but don't have the patience, eyesight and dexterity to make it an easy tie. But other than my heavy offshore stuff, I don't use much braid anyway, so it's not much of a loss for me. Have said before that a good rod and tight line is all I need to feel a light bite, but to each their own.

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I sense a lack of true commitment, lol!

braid needs a flouro or mono leader

Nope I tie braid directly to jigs and I can't tell you how many bass that rig has caught.

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Yes and no. If I'm flipping heavy jigs into mats or punching them, I'll tie a foot or so of 50lb fluoro leader in as a shock absorber. A good hook set from a 7'6 heavy rod with 65lb braid will kill a fish if there isnt a shock absorber. I've done it, sadly.

Other than that, yes. Braid straight to the jig.

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Point taken. I don't think I've ever killed one. I don't use a 7"6 just a seven. Wouldn't mono work better? Flouro has little stretch as I have seen / read.

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Mono does work better from a stretch standpoint, yes. Some of the cheaper flourocarbons have enough stretch to be ok. And since I was broke at the time, cheap was the way I went more often than not.

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Anyone have recommendations on somewhere to get Penn reels repaired? I'm in the Chesapeake area.

Scooted out this morning with my son to get some fresh air and throw a few lines in at the local pond. Beautiful fall morning!!!!! And I caught what was the smallest largemouth bass I've caught and/or seen. Not even the length of my phone from nose to tail. He went back to get big and strong for the future.

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NE Florida for the week. Worth throwing a line in the surf or should I just drink and golf all week? Water temp still mid 80s and air temps the same or higher. Not sure if anything worth chasing will be around or not.

Edit: also renting a pontoon with the family Friday on the ICW near Matanzas Inlet. I have no clue what I should try with regard to fishing from this boat in the river. Any tips would be appreciated.

Pompano and whiting have been strong in the surf up there from what I've read on the Florida surf anglers FB page.

The mullet ought to be starting to work their way south soon if they haven't already, which means anything is possible.

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Wow, i wanna know if any pomps r caught in 80 degree water, thats very warm for them. Please provide a report.

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That's what I was thinking too.

No pompano expert but they are a summer time surf fish in NC where I'd think those surf temps are 80 or above. Might be different in Florida

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Yep. We never used to catch them at Hatteras until late summer when the surf was almost flat.

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There's a few. Down by me we dont see them until december at the earliest, probably January the way the water temps are trending this year. Those are all well north of me

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Red and black drum in the surf 2 hours either side of low tide...fish the holes by the cuts between the first and second troughs...should be prime time.

Inshore, the connections between the ICW and the Pellicer Bay/Creek complex are worth fishing; the closer you can get to Matanzas Inlet, the better. My spots in the creeks are running brown right now with all the rain. (edit: so inshore north of 206 is probably a waste of time. I'd fish between Washington Oaks and Devil's Elbow. Water clarity should be better in that stretch. If it isn't, it isn't good anywhere)

Thanks! Fished two hours at Flagler today so far but not the right tide. Fished the two hours around high tide. 5 whiting and a catfish, 3 keeper whiting to fry up with the seafood boil Friday night.

I'll check those areas on the inshore side. Appreciate the tips!

Ended up with enough whiting for a decent fish fry Saturday evening. No luck fishing during the family boat rental cruise up to Matanzas Inlet. Caught one catfish just to let my daughter reel something in. I did hook something on a shrimp and popping cork. About 24", silver with a deeply forked tail. Pulled like crazy and jumped twice about 5' out of the water and then threw the hook. Maybe a small tarpon? Not really sure, could have been a lady fish.

All in all not a bad week in Florida. Headed home today to get ready for deer season, the bow opener starts in less than 2 weeks and I have a lot to get done. More than likely I'm done with fishing for 2020. Good luck to everyone the rest of the year.

we got lots of ladyfish around here.

and today a whole bunch of water...highest tide we've had that wasn't a hurricane

While I didn't do my almost daily ride around to a local wharf/fishing pier and one or both of the local boat ramps (don't tell Mrs. Fish, I also buy an 18 oz Bud for the mellowment of these days, I can say that yesterday's high tides had the walkway at the local ramp flooded, and the parking lot as well. The local wharf was flooded and water was all over the parking area.
We're a long way apart, but sorta same same, huh? My house is way at the top (but not on waterfront, we bein' of modest means) of a small creek that must have been a lot bigger at some point. Way too shallow for anything but a kayak these days except in way high tide, but wide enough to have been subject to "events", or something in the years of old to make it as wide as it is. While my next door neighbor has tidal and hurricane water at one side of his place, it just hasn't influenced us even though we are really pretty low down in elevation.

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I'll estimate that water in the photo is about the 6' contour

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fresh dead shrimp in the surf (or live finger mullet for reds if you have a cast net); if you are anchoring up a pontoon boat inshore with family, live mud minnows on a jig head is a good universal bait.

on the west bank of the ICW...the first cut south of (almost across from) the overpass north of Marineland and the first two cuts south of Marineland all have deep holes very close to the ICW. You can see them on google earth. Those are pretty easy anchor up spots. They are beyond my normal fishing home range but I've seen enough dolphins, kayaks, and boats in there to know they hold fish at times.

I watch very little TV but there was a fishing show on last night (FSS I think) with a guy named Hoover kayak fishing Flagler...I caught the last minute. looked like he was fishing Pellicer last winter if I had to guess. If you can find that one on replay, it might give you ideas for future trips.

edit: yeah Chad Hoover, season 9, episode 2

Watch your gear. My car was broken into on Friday morning (in Mechanicsville) while I was in Roanoke for a wedding. They took a big plastic tote filled with pyramid sinkers (8, 10, 12, and 14oz), my rain paints, my bait knife, and a big wad of assorted tackle.

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Damn that's not good sorry to hear you had stuff stolen I can't imagine that's any fun.

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I got lucky. My Yeti and pier cart were also in the car, but didn't get touched. They ransacked my glove box and center console.

I just ordered a new pair of rain pants. Ouch. The sinkers will be tough to replace too. All 10, 12, and 14oz pyramids for the drummiest of drum days.

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Definitely can rule out anyone with a salt life sticker if they left the yeti behind. /s

Weird of all things they would go for the lead sinkers I know they aint cheap but not much else theyre good for. Some days I'm thankful I've moved out in the hills where I have a bit more privacy these days.

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Also just depending on how many he had could be awkward as hell to carry around. I imagine whoever did it was not to pleased to get home and realize they were lugging around a bunch of metal weights. Only place my car has been gone through in the area was the fan and they emptied my center console and glove box into the front seat and took nothing. Guess they didn't need harbor freight allen key sets.

I remember visiting some friends in the fan back in the mid 70s and one of them had a car that had been broken into so many times he left it unlocked and had a sign on the window advising thieves that there was nothing left to steal. So they broke his side windows out, all four of them though all doors were unlocked, popped his hood and stole a 6 year old battery. Thank goodness there were no rods and reels in the car, French.

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Thanks for the reminder french. I can leave my gear in the car at times. Sorry about your stuff. Those bigger sinkers are harder to find for sure.

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Fishing the Jackson below Moomaw on thursday and I just realized I dont have any tippet for my 4/5 wt trout rods for anything bigger than a brookie so anyone got any good recommendations on what sizes? I was gonna grab a pack of tapered and then a small spool of some flouro tippet for tying droppers if we can fish drys with a nymph under it.

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I'd normally throw a 7.5', possibly a 9', 4x or 5x in that situation but you'll probably get as many different answers as you get people who respond.

Thanks I'll probably just grab some stuff when I stop by anglers lane to get some flies as well since I'm going in blind as usual. Would love the rain to hold off and allow some dry fly action as I'm taking a friend with no fly fishing experience and I find fishing the surface or something like a streamer would be easier to teach.

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Was hoping to take French out this Friday to break his puppy drum jinx, but more and more the weather looks too hinky to pull it off. Hoping to reschedule soon.
Tomorrow calls, however. Low temps and humidity with light winds predicted. I know it's going to be a perfect day to go early for some trout and reds in the Mobjack, but I'm actually being pulled by whatever it is in we fishermen to do something you love to do even if it isn't maybe the best bet. Yep, I'm going flounder fishing. When I first moved here, I went floundering early and often, but as the years have gone by, the flounder locally seem to have gone with them. But, be that as it may, I'm going to give it a shot. Great thing is that I know how, where and with what bait to catch them, IF they're there, that is. Bad thing is that they haven't been there way more than they have lately.
Report, as usual, to follow. I'd like to kick off my 8th decade with a flounder fry and I ain't a-buyin' 'em.

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Best of luck if you're desperate for a flounder fry Captain Greggs in old mechanicsville is my go to for fresh fish.

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Thanks. Luckily, my neighbor two doors down is the local fishmonger. He has a big trailer and serves fresh cooked seafood Wed through Fri, sells fresh seafood as well and also on Saturday. He parks the rig at the new M&M hardware store where Super Value used to be. Serves a mean fried oyster Po Boy.

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Decent chance I'll be out on the East again Saturday morning.

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Really? I have been seeing NE 20+ this weekend. Some places close to 30.

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Yep, 20-25 winds with 4-5' waves and a chance of showers thrown in. I'll stay home and watch somebody somewhere play football, I guess.

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Yeah I see 15-20 but with the wind N/NE I have plenty of covered spots to fish, even though I won't be able to travel much. May go hit another hole in the area I've been wanting to hit recently as well that's well covered.

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Were you able to get out? Tide and wind made for a sporty lookin' day on the East. I saw a couple of work boats out, but nobody else, though there was a truck and a trailer at Put In ramp. Beautiful day, otherwise.

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No, we were taking another person's boat and he ended up having to drop out. Weather was a factor, but also other obligations.

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The puppy drum's gain will hopefully the big drum's loss. They love to chew in weather only an Alaskan crab fisherman could love.

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happy birthday Fish!

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Thanks, brother. I had a pretty decent one, all things considered. I cooked up some fine scallops and asparagus, washed 'em down with plenty of Corona Light, and followed it all up with a couple of bowls full of 'nanner puddin' with whipped cream...
Now that I've lived long enough to make the 4th quarter, it's time to go fishing and I must admit I wish I'd had a couple less lights and maybe only one bowl of pudding last night, but it was, after all, my birthday. So far this week, I've had shrimp, redfish and scallops, so it's definitely time for a flounder fry.

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This makes me happy; happy belated birthday Fish!

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Happy belated birthday man go get a few drum and hopefully a flounder and enjoy the day!

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Happy birthday! Tight lines!

*Makes note- bring Fish scallops when we finally get to fish

*Edit- shake fist at the sky

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I wish I'd had a couple less lights and maybe only one bowl of pudding last night

nah, you're entitled.

happy birthday!

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A good little surf/drum fishing tutorial from Oceans East.

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Got out yesterday, slow afternoon pulled hooks on what felt like a nice trout early in the fight. Had a fish miss my topwater 4 times in one cast guessing it was a striper. Last second topwater bite at sunset made it worth it with a 21.5" and 22.5" striper and rat red in about 12 casts

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nice!!!

Trip to Cape Lookout Friday morning through last night. I arrived Friday mid day to meet two Hokie friends / frat bros from college. We hopped on Pretty Fly and got to the Hook to find spanish busting on micro bait. We hooked up on spoons and fly and a few of the bigger ones ended up in the cooler. Cruised around all over the area and I showed them around. Caught a few other species as well, including small Jacks, Blues, and a Lizardfish. We ate dinner and hit dock lights that night. TONS of fish popping but they were incredibly picky. We caught six or seven trout total. Really fun time drinking beers, playing tunes and telling old war stories while trying to get the picky specks to eat flies for my friends. I was able to succeed to get them trout on the fly, which always brings me joy. We were up till 3:30 a.m. out there.

Saturday the wind was HOWLING so sleeping in was nice. We fished inshore on a row of docks that has been consistent all summer. Unfortunately nothing was biting, probably due to the poker run going on 50 yards away. 30-50 foot speed boats, dozens of them, fly past. I hate those fucking things as much as jetskis. I do not understand the appeal. On the way back under the Atlantic Beach bridge, dodging these fucking boats, I look down to take a sip of my beer when I hear a big cracking sound. The other guys yell out and I am blasted with fish slime across my face. A 20" spanish mack had lept out of the water and crashed right into my windshield as we were cruising at 20 mph. It was knocked out for awhile, then started shaking again before I put it in the cooler. Very weird way to catch a fish and if it was a foot higher in the air, I would have taken it in the neck. Pretty crazy. At the dock I was asked to take a fish survey for a, NC Wildlife Officer. Upon explaining the only fish we caught had jumped in the boat, he said he would mark it down as the very rare checkbox of "captured using other means." We again hit the dock lights but higher winds made it tough. I caught a nice 20 inch red that was a dance of a fight on the 6 weight pulling him out of the dock pilings.

Sunday the weather was rainy as hell. The other guys had to leave mid day. We looked for albies from the Hook to Beaufort Inlet but found none. Cruised around shark island as there was a lot of birds diving but found nothing while take a wave over the bow which was pretty sketch. We went back to the Hook and found the Spaniards willing again. Biggest turned out to be 22". Pouring rain and we called it. My friends took off back to Charlotte and I took an hour nap in the truck. Awoke to clearing skies and the wind dying down. Figured I would go do some exploration with the sunny weather overhead so I splashed the Hewes again and headed north up behind the Cape. Found a really cool creek that had several redfish in it and stayed there till dark, dodging a few big thunder boomers. Ended up catching two reds on fly, and three more burning a spoon. Biggest was 22". Nice way to end the day.

Crashed at my friends house in MHC and Monday afternoon we headed to the Neuse in his 28' Contender to see if we could bait fish for old drum. While cast netting the bunker, Natalia threw in a popping cork. Second cast she hooks up and we land the 30 pounder. Really odd considering they are super noise shy and we were running the twin engines around not 15 yards from the school of bait where she hooked it. We fished 30 minutes along more bait balls and I tried the fly to no avail. An hour later we were anchored up in the middle of Pamlico Sound and the wind kicked up. I'm considered to be a pretty big sissy by these two who offshore fish in any conditions, but this was rough. Waves coming over the bow as we were anchored in 10 feet of water. I'm a sissy about the rough weather because I get really seasick and this was no exception. We were out there for 3 hours and I puked four times in between hooking up 5-6 times on the rod I was manning. Two reds and one big ray landed. The larger red I did a quick estimate at 48", my personal best. It was pumpkin orange. Natalia caught four more herself as we rocked back and forth. We left them biting and had to fight our way back in through the weather for two hours. It felt so great to set foot on land again. My sea legs wouldnt work and I almost fell off the dock. My midnight order from Cookout consisted of two sicy chicken sandwiches, two corn dogs, and two packs of nuggets to refill my stomach. I'd definitely do the night time bait fishing again but I'd prefer it calmer. As French said above, the old drum like to eat in weather an Alaskan crab enjoys. I already applied for the citation online and look forward to getting that in the mail. Hoping to get down there again before winter arrives.

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Pretty drum!

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Thank you. I thought of you and your love for the old drum while out there. They are amazing fish but goddamn that was some uncomfortable fishing.

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Yep. I am going to try to fish the Northeaster Friday AM if I can find some bait. Right now, spot, cobbs, bluefish heads- not much around.

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Glad you got to enjoy the crystal coast. Looks like a solid trip. Gonna try to make it down there for some albies and some trout this fall.

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There are so many trout on the docklights it is not even funny

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Nice! I'll need to remember that when I'm down in mid October.

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Took my daughter to Flagler today for an hour to try to catch a fish on her 8th birthday. We scored 4 keeper whiting, 3-4 small whiting, some odd looking fish I've never caught before and threw back, and 4-5 catfish (hard head I think) that we also tossed back. Great short trip to the surf. Hope to hit it once more before Friday and add to the bag of filets we're frying up along side our seafood boil.


Wasn't one of these was it? They have teeth, and a bony head, but get a few of these that are bigger and they are tasty. A lot of work for tiny little bites, but yummy.

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No it was silver and the skin and scales looked similar to whiting. But it had like a bulbous forehead for lack of a better description.

Edit: quick search tells me it was probably an Atlantic Threadfin (Polydactylus octonemus).

Sea Robin, right?

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Yeah. They are in the canal in Lewes. Fun, but ugly.

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Yeah, if it will play our silly game and then pulls hard, I'm happy to catch them.

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I think they are pretty as hell and they slam a fly

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Any folks know any good seafood places in Richmond which sell whole/fresh spot?

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French, wish I'd have known. I could have sunk my boat with spot today on bait and bottom rigs. Would have been glad to ice 'em down and meet you Friday morning on your way to the pier. But, well.
Definitely not fishing Friday around here, though. Best of luck.

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I didn't know. Once we pulled the plug, I got assurances of bait. Now, it has dried up with the weather coming. I have a possible hook up on some tuna belly, but I have never caught a drum on it.

Glad you wore them out today. I spent about 6 hours on a laptop. Ugh.

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Well, thanks for all the well wishes from my TKP compatriots. Here's my report from today's outing at Milford Haven and the Piankatank. First fish of the day was a spot, as were the next two or three. Hitting my Gulp 4" swimming mullet (chartreuse, of course). Then I hooked and soon lost a fish I would have almost bet the farm was a flounder. Next drift, I hooked up again, and it was as it should be, what my friend GI Jack would call hooking a Walmart bag, but with a funny little head shake. It actually fought pretty hard for a flounder, but it was the target species. 19" and in the box. Might have had another one on, but the tide quit running and things got dinky, with a black sea bass, two spike specks, and a 12" gray trout coming in. I decided to head over to the Piankatank for some dock fishing, but stopped at a newish oyster reef on the way. Promptly hooked up with a nice (for here) bluefish that pulled drag and gave me a couple of jumps, maybe going two pounds. Also caught at least a dozen black sea bass, but with the biggest going 9 inches. That reef has held them since a half hour after they finished putting those oysters down, and it hasn't changed yet. They hit everything Gulp, even half of a Gulp. I finally tired of that, but I will say that those little black willies can fight way above their weight class.
Hit some docks on the 'Tank and caught my first rat red. Next fish, however, was a 14" cobia (go figger) and then I got on a dock loaded with rats up to 15", and another three or four spike specks.
Tide was running by then so I went back to the Haven. Got two flounder on my first two drifts, a 10 and a 15", so the boxed fish stayed lonely. More dink trout, more spot, and maybe the biggest lizardfish I'd ever caught. Almost kept him after seeing a video of a guy who said they were delicious, better than flounder, with the whitest fish meat he'd ever seen...but I didn't. Lost another couple of fish that I think might have been flounder, but then things just died, and I absconded.
As per flyguy's experience, I saw two Spanish mackerel hanging in the air near the Gwynn's Island bridge, but they were too far to cast to. Never seen them in there before. Strange year.

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So question for all of you OBX fishing guys...

Last week while fishing the surf in Avon I landed what looked like a puffer fish (about 8 inches long). White belly with bright green eyes. Is that what I actually caught?

I wish I had a picture, but we ran down between the torrential downpours and I didn't have my phone with me.

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Did it have yellow on the sides? It sounds like a puffer. Brown with a white belly is a blow toad. They are real good to eat if you know how to cut them up. Sadly, I don't.

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Cut down behind the head and find the backbone then follow it down the rest of the fish. Pretty simple, you get a chicken tender looking filet.

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Definitely a "sugar toad". That's what they call them when selling the tenderloins in seafood shops. We grew up calling them blow toads, but puffer is definitely what you had. Cool eyes, no? And front teeth that would make a squirrel envious. I remember on a pier one day and these two guys caught a few big ones. Back then, eating them wasn't common, so these yahoos tickled them into blowing up, then drop kicked them off the pier (yeah, poor form). We finally learned how to clean and eat them, but my dad thought it too much trouble with the skinning and all so we only did it a couple of times.

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Local forecast has us getting more than 4 inches of rain today and tomorrow, with high winds coming in as well. Coastal forecast for Saturday through Tuesday is sunny with 20-25 and higher gusts, waves 5-6'. Not lookin' good. I've just read that we have had an algae bloom in local waters as well. Wondering if all this rain and churning will dissipate that stuff.
My neighbor didn't do well trout fishing yesterday in the East, while a buddy of his limited out on trout near Ware Point.

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Just saw this report from Red Drum Tackle. I'm headed down next Saturday for a week, so I hope they stick around!

"The Drum are here! Big ones biting everywhere, little ones too! Several Drum caught from the Avon pier and from the beach. Big Drum and Slot Drum...Get your butts down here and fish! Lots of citation Drum caught in the last two days! Blue Fish caught in Hatteras and at Ramp 49."

They will be around but whether or not they are within casting distance/biting depends on wind direction. Its been north wind pattern for a few days which cool things down and turn the bite on especially early season. I believe french has generally said in the past if the wind is in your face its good drum weather. Good luck!

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yep. all the fish being caught now are locals from Pamlico Sound that have come out to enjoy the rough water (turns on their feeding.) The population which summers in the Chesapeake was still around southern Maryland and Tangier last week.

Usually prime time is around Halloween for the northern beaches, with Avon catching them into November.

If we get this sustained NE 10-20, they will be eating. on the east facing beaches. This weekend may be a bit too much. I am going to head down tonight and fish tomorrow, but it sounds like today the water cleaned up and the drum vanished, despite the storm.

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Get after them French! You deserve some pullage.

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Well, if you don't get to go, then get the calendar out and let's line up that puppy trip. I can't show you drum like flyguy's, but I did get a 15" red yesterday that was as golden as his, a first for me. Maybe the calm down after this storm will have some of those bigger reds feeding up and moving south through the area, but I expect the dock rats to hang around for a bit yet. Best of luck at the pier, maybe the rain will give you some space and at least the wind will keep Covid at bay.

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I ended up pulling the plug. No sleep today + an overnight drive with lots of standing water on the roads just wasn't in the cards. Bummer too, because I got a sweat hook up on bait.

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Can't say as I blame you. Wind got up last night, but is fairly quiet right now. We ended up with 2-1/2" of rain with a little more to come, and then I guess the wind will get serious.

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Hopefully will be fishable by Thursday. That looks like my next window.

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Too soon to tell, but trending good.

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Kicking myself a bit. The guys in the know are throwing 12's today, but they are catching. I had a sweet bait hook up (not cobs, but very large and fresh fingers) and would have been in the fish today. I just didn't feel safe making that drive after being up since 6AM and only catching a 2 hour cat nap. I am not as young as I used to be.

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You don't know unless you go...

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Certainly. Throwing 12s is a hell of a way to break in a season, though. That is like going to run a timed 400 and not stretching for a year before hand.

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Like my ole buddy Cecil always said, "You ain't gonna ketchum settin' around watchin' Roland Martin on the Tee Vee." in his Radford twang,

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Yep. But being alive and at home in bed beats hydroplaning or falling asleep at the wheel.... at least that is the call I made.

I am not going to lie- I had a sweet hook up on bait when it was hard to come by, and it was at least drummy this AM. I am FOMOing a bit. But, it would have been 6+ hours of driving for a 4 hour window, with no sleep. 26 year old French says "balls out." 42 year old French says "I need to make 43."

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No way I'd have even contemplated it, so kudos for at least thinking about it. Here's to better days and fewer sleepless nights.
We will, however, require an early start when we finally get out on the Mobjack. Great thing is that it won't be that egregious of a commute for you now, and I'm getting old enough to not need to see sun up and sundown on the boat, so you should be home well before dark.
Live to fight another day. Something else Cecil said a lot was "Well hell, we ain't in no big ass hurry, are we?" Hopefully you'll get more shots at them before they're gone south.

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you made the right call

Last year the rats were around until 3rd week of October

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Everyone have a great fall and tight lines!

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Took my oldest son on his first kayak fishing adventure yesterday as a surprise. Woke him up at 6:00 with everything loaded up and ready to go. Stopped and got 3 dozen shrimp, then launched. Since I was worried about space and weight distribution, I paddled instead of bringing a battery and the motor (boy am I feeling that today...)

Stopped at a mud flat for some finger mullet to add to the shrimp, and then headed towards the pass. Fished the beach with no luck for an hour so, and then went offshore about 100 yards where he kept getting cut off by spanish mackerel. Headed back to the beach for some whitebait, then stopped at the mud bar for an ambush point on the now incoming tide. Both of us sliced our feet open on buried oysters, so I cleaned, patched and waterproofed our feet. Stopped under the bridge where he schooled me on how to catch snapper- seriously, he caught 7 keepers and I caught 1 about 8 inches. Schooled.

Went to my redfish/snook spot and he played around with the snook until we ran out of bait. In all we caught the 8 snapper and ended up at 10 snook, but no slot fish.

Burnt and sore, but boy was it a beautiful day. He wanted to stay out but I honestly didnt have the energy to get more bait and paddle more.. We were out from 7:15ish to about 1:30. If I can get our snook picture to load, I'll edit it in later tonight . (Now added)

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Nice fish! That kid hasnt gotten a good gill plating from a snook yet I can tell nothing sharp as their gill plates I swear.

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Yeah, I warned him about that, but that's the only way he would hold it. After 3 warnings, I said ok, your call.

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Nothing short of a lesson learned the hard way to teach ya what not to do. Some of us like myself tend to learn more lessons the hard way and we turned out just fine, that said I learned just how nasty their gill plates are the hard way when I had one shake free and catch my hand.

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Same here. Only takes one time, that's for damn sure.

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There are a bunch of fish with sharp gill plates. I wish once was enough to keep me from getting sliced still, occasionally. Fish can bite back, whether with teeth, gill plates or dorsal fins, and if you catch enough of them, you can expect to bleed.

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Guided on the Mattaponi today. It was the clearest I've ever seen it. Tide did not drop as much as it was supposed to, which doesn't make sense with the NE wind. I figured it would be tough sledding, but we had our chances. Client missed at least two eats and blew two shots at fish, one definitely a bowfin. I've resigned myself that most of my clients won't be able to cast well or stripset, no matter how I teach them and it results in many less fish caught and seemingly, less tips and reviews. I just can't make them see the goddamn 25" fish literally at the end of the rod tip and get the fly in their face. If you go on a fishing trip, please practice before hand. And practice a lot. It makes everyone's life on the boat easier and you as the angler will end up with a better day combined with the guide's expertise and excellent vision.

Hoping to get out on the Bay this week but all I can think about are North Carolina Redfish, per the usual, and all of them for me since no one else can cast apparently.

In boating and trailer news, the brand new motherboard on the Minn Kota is already acting up. It's 3 weeks old. My truck is still in the shop and unknown as to the repairs needed. If anyone would like some entertainment in the form of the list of trailer, boat, boat motor and truck issues that I've withheld from TKP this summer, I'd be happy to share for nominal fee of one White Claw per reader.

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Took me three days to recover from my fight with a near citation brown trout thursday but after fishing the Jackson all day thursday to no avail except for one dink brown and a minnow of some sort not a fall fish it was an uneventful day aside from the fact we all ended up swimming in our waders at some point. Taught my friend how to fly fish somewhat okay but couldnt get any fish to eat for him unfortunately. That river is a tricky bitch to wade in and left us all feeling like a bunch of drunks stumbling our way to our demise. It rained all day of course pretty sure my wife conjured up a storm with her namesake to spite me for her not being able to go. Friday wouldve been perfect but we didnt get the opportunity to flex out of the date we picked.

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Went to mountains with a new fishing acquaintance, got play with some native brook trout. Biggest caught was around 10-12". First time really doing the small water fishing seriously. It was a lot of fun. All on ultralight spinning gear not a fly guy yet haha. Will have to do it more but need to get back on the speckled trout bite.

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Nice natives, 3rd. I was into that for a while back in the 70s. We used Panther Martin in-line spinners, gold with the little dressing on the hook, treble barbs mashed, of course. Folks might frown on it nowadays, but those little devils are some fine tasting table fare, but there seemed to be plenty of them then.

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Thanks, Ifish. We were using trout magnets (little split tail soft plastic). My fishing acquaintance was saying how the catching the natives is completely different than stocked. We released them all. Unless one choked it, I don't think I would keep one. It would be cool to get one in the 15-20"

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Yeah, I know the trout magnet. We caught a lot of fish up to about 15", and not many bigger than that. I used to have a closely held secret sorta spot with three ponds and a long hike into and out of the spot. I got a few in the 18-20" range, but they were leaner than some. I caught those on countdown Rapalas and wasn't keeping wild trout at that point.
When I was eating them, I had access to water that had healthy populations of them and it was no detriment to the fishery, but I guess I wouldn't do that these days. In Giles, my stream had a seemingly endless supply of wild rainbows, but toward the end of my time there, I only ate one fish, a 5 pounder that had been killed by a heron but was too big for it to swallow. Still quivering when I found it, I smoked it up. It was delicious, but our fish dinners had turned mostly into fried walleye by that point.

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I figured you would. I have no problem with other people keeping them but usually have a steady freezer of offshore fish and some summer cobia so will keep very little inshore/freshwater unless eating them day of. I had some smoked salmon for the first time a month ago and it was delicious.

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I lived in Oregon for a year back in '76, and one day while driving near the coast we stopped in a little bar and grill for a pitcher of beer. We noticed folks with smoked salmon plates and crackers. Turns out the owner was an avid salmon fisherman and smoked his own there at the bar. Best salmon I've still ever eaten, and as I recall, we got a pitcher and a plate of the salmon for about $10. We went by a couple more times until the salmon was gone for the year. I moved back East before the next season, but will never forget how good that stuff was. Don't know what he did to make it so damn good, but I was too young and self absorbed to even try to find out. That was a bad move.

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alder smoke; if it's like most out there.

Sounds about right. The fish was dry and flakey, too, and a thick hunk, not some see through cellophane slice. Served with just the crackers, no cream cheese, minced red onion or capers.

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After 9th-11th grade in NOVA, I graduated HS in suburban Portland. My dad was also a conservation official so we had family friends that did a lot of that sort of thing. And yeah, their smoked salmon was the best I've had as well.

In '75, I had a summer job with SCS (now NRCS) dropping off equipment for snow measuring in remote places in OR. In summer '76, I worked for USFS in WA. Pretty country.

Wife and I moved there in the Spring of '76 after we graduated VT. Lived in Springfield, worked at the Eugene Mall. Stayed a year, but never could find decent work, so I limped home. Met some really cool people. Used to drive by Ken Kesey's farm on our way to the coast and the old bus from his wild days was parked in a field by the road. My extreme poverty pretty much put a damper on my life there, and my biggest regret was never getting over to Bend.

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In 1976, I don't remember anyone intentionally wanting to go to Bend. But it was definitely uptown compared to Burns.

Our HS biology class camped at the State Park in Bend along the Deschutes. That was a good trip...

Some of our friends out there preferred the desert to the coast and Bend was mentioned often.

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beautiful area

Beautiful fish! Thanks for sharing.

I love fishing the little mountain streams and rivers for brookies. It helps my confidences as an aspiring fly fisherman!

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If I ever finish my house construction projects, we will have to meet up and catch some Brookies on the fly and talk football and Fox bodies.

I would love that! Just let me know. We can grab a beer one day.

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You're welcome. They give you enough opportunities which is all you can ask for. Once I get more proficient at small water fishing, I'll give the ole buggy whip a try.

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Get yourself a 7'6" 3 weight, and a handful of size 16 yellow caddis flies and size 18 wet flies as a dropper and have at it.

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I picked up a small setup like that last year and it's been a whole lotta fun!

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I can see myself getting one in the future for sure.

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I grabbed a 7 foot tfo bugging rod thats a 4/5 weight and use it for everything from panfishing all the way to brook trout. Bass pro used to have the setup with line and all for a really nice price.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

For fishing small brookie streams with lots of overhanging vegetation, a 2 or 3 weight, 7 - 7.5 footer is all you need. Graphite or fiberglass is the major choice and is a casting style/feel that you have to try to decide.

I've also used a Tenkara rod a few times... Easy and a lot of fun

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Yeah it can get really tight and with the fly casting I can see getting snagged on vegetation with being a beginner. Definitely a 7 -7.5 footer would be preferable. I'll see what types of area I fish more and then make the move on a fly rod.

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Learn to roll cast

This x1000, no need to do any real casting if you can roll it out at all. If you really trust yourself learn to do the slingshot casting but only if you dont mind hooking your hand potentially.

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Noted, makes a lot of sense to roll cast in the tight spaces.

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When its really tight with the rhododendron surrounding you, you do the Bow and Arrow.

And If you really want some fun, get a glass rod! At this point in my feather slinging I really only use my 8wt in salt and my 3wt glass for mountains.. my 9' 5wt rarely gets any love

Those are gorgeous. I have only caught natives in one place, Taylor's Creek in LaAnna PA.

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Went with a buddy yesterday to soak chunks of crab for bull reds at Ponce Inlet. 20-30 mph winds. Tides were totally screwed up. Got rained on going back to the ramp. Not even a sniff at the bait. My head is in a Dramamine fog this a.m.

But it was a very worthwhile trip. Got to spend a day with a great friend talking fishing, family, and life; sadly a rarity these days.

And for French or anyone looking for a handicap accessible pier with a chance for a big fish, the one at Smyrna Dunes Park might fit the bill during the fall run...at least it looked that way from the water.

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Afternoon team, question: going to be in the 757 between Christmas and New Year's, and I would like to hire a guide to fish inshore/close to shore, targeting reds, black drum, speckled...and the like.

Any guides on here interested or available? Any recommendations? 3 adults, 3 kids between 7-10.

Thx!

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I would but I don't guide that far south and I couldn't fit more than two on my flats boat.

There should be a really good winter trout fishery that late on the Bay

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Thx bud鈥攄o u know enough fellas in that area that you'd feel confident making a recommendation? Specifically we are staying in Chesapeake. Appreciate any insight.

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Might be pretty tough to find an inshore trip for 6 people. I do know that the Elizabeth River fishes fairly well in winter, and I have a Hokie buddy in a fishing club down that way so I'll reach out to him.

Edit: Most boats around the Bay that time of year are chartering for stripers. Not sure whether there's a viable charter business for drum and trout that time of year in that area, though.

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That time of year the best bet is the striper run if they're there and the later in the year the bigger they get and its mostly trolling or corking an eel in a lot of water but can be better than a slow day inshore that time of year.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Striper fishing would be great, too. I'm not as familiar with that species and that portion of the country. Are stripers caught within sight of land? Or do you have to go out 20 miles or so?

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That time of year you can catch them around the bay bridge tunnel and surrounding areas. You can get them inshore in the rivers earlier in the year like october-november in the Rapp and potomac etc. That time of year youre usually out around the cell and over by the eastern shore chasing the bigger fish and by new years the bigger fish out in the ocean can be targeted as well if you have the right boat. Most captains in the area that time of year will be going after them if theyre around as they can be easily caught trolling or using eels.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

The bigger ones never seemed to leave the mouth of the Potomac last winter.

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Thanks fellas鈥攁ppreciate the guidance.

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Is it worth the effort to surf fish off Va Beach in late December, or mostly a waste of time?

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Good question. I grew up in Chesapeake and we fished Sandbridge and the OBX, but never did we fish Va Beach. Surfed there, partied there, chased wimmins there, but never fished there.

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Fish, would you be interested in my hiring you to take my small band of sailors out fishing? There's nothing more that I would like than to pay it forward to another Hokie. I'm still gathering info and options for my stay there, I'll have one shot to try and get into some fish.

Would you have the setup to take a few adults + 3 kiddos?

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Zoom, I'm flattered and would love to do so if I could, but I cannot. First of all, while I was a guide for 10 years on the freshwater New, I am not a licensed sea captain (like our flyguy) so it would be illegal for me to accept a charter, but secondly, my boat couldn't float us all, being only 18 and a half feet. If the boat would do it, I'd do it for free, I promise, but appreciate you trying to help your TKP brethren. As my fishing buddies will attest, I don't even accept gas money when I take someone out fishing (though a couple of cold beers is 3rdGen's standard contribution) and I respect anyone who goes through the rigors of becoming a licensed sea captain, no easy feat.
I have been unable to get in touch yet with my Hokie buddy in Va Beach for his recommendation for a charter captain, if he has one, but I will get that done and maybe we can get a captain in the area for you. I know you're serious and it is the right thing to start looking now, since striper season is quite popular here on the coast, but you're going to need a pretty big boat for all to go, so you're going to need an established charter service. If we can get you a captain, you can certainly negotiate how you want the trip to run (within the limitations he would accept) as far as length of trip and how far offshore you are willing to run. Charter captains come in all stripes, and are known for their stubborn independence in general, but are usually pretty good about customer service. Being game day (still?), I should be able to reach my friend today and I promise to follow up and get a response to you this weekend if at all possible.

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Thx Fish!

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Ok, got my buddy. He said call Captain Craig Paige of Paige II Charters and he'll help you figure out what to do. Sea bass and flounder can be found on inshore wrecks that time of year, so stripers aren't the only game in town. Phone number is (757)-672-9381, web site easily found, 5 star reviews and my friend said he's a really nice guy to boot. If he can't take you, he'll know everybody in the biz and will steer you straight. Best of luck!

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Score! Thanks a million Fish, will let u know if it works out.

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Happy to help, and definitely let me know how it goes and what you think of Craig. I trust my buddy, but since the info is second hand, it'll be nice to hear it from someone who deals with him.

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Spoke to the charter, unfortunately a double whammy.

1) His charter can only hold 4 passengers
2) Does not run that time of year. Says that the striper can no longer be found in the lower Bay Area. Concerned that they are either being over-fished, lack of baitfish, or global warming. But says basically there are no fish to be caught.

Also suggested surf fishing would be a waste of my time.

I called a highly regarded captain to possibly book a trip, but would require almost $900 and a full day, moving his departure site to Deltaville and fishing the mouth of the Rappahannock. That seems a bit steep, not to mention with kids.

Striking out, Fish!

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Sorry to hear that. We went with a capt'n out of Deltaville, likely the guy you spoke with. He has a bigger boat, but uses his smaller one for stripers there in the Rapp area. Nice enough guy, we had a terrible day with a poor weather forecast and big waves. Most boats that time of year are stuck on trolling, not much fun anyway, and I personally wouldn't call it worth the money. Oh well, further south for your next vacation?

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Looks like OBX surf fishing reports have stayed encouraging all week, despite the weather. All tackle shops reporting steady catches of puppy and big drum with some nice trout and bluefish caught. I'm going to need NCDOT to go ahead and hurry up and get Hwy 12 back open so I can get down there Saturday morning. French, is that wind shift to SW going to push the fish further out from the beach?

I have caught drum on a SW if the SW brings a bunch of mullet on to the NE facing beaches. But, it is rare, and even if they are there it is a slow pick. If the wind is SW, fish up at Carova or at Oregon Inlet (or the southside of Cape Point if you can get to it, but the videos of the wash out at Ramp 44 are not promising.)

If the reports are accurate, pups on small cut mullet chunks or fishing Gulp jigs near the beach should be productive. If you want big drum, be prepared to be very patient, or find someone who knows how to fish the Inlet. Carova is beautiful and the best fishing should be around low tide when you can really find the breaks in the beach.

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10-4, that lines up with what I was thinking as well. I'm not sure I'll make the drive from Rodanthe all the way up to Carova, but I might be able to convince the wife to make the day trip. Sounds like the Speck bite has been good sound-side and they are still catching a lot of puppy drum and nice size bluefish in the surf. I also saw some drone video this morning of guys parked out at the point. Looks like they were all lined up fishing the South side, so that's certainly encouraging.

Fished hard yesterday with Tommy from South River Fly Shop in Waynesboro. He is one of the nicest guys in the industry. I cannot recommend them enough, particularly if you want a guided trout trip. We ended up getting two stripers and saw a dozen reds on flats. Fished all over Mobjack. Great weather, we just couldn't seem to get them to eat. Ended the evening in the East with me getting in a shouting match with some Karen who owns a decrepit dock across the river from whatever the giant concrete structure is that has never been completed. It's an old dock falling in the water and I've seen numerous boats fish it over the years. I'm sure Fish and others on here have seen it or fished it. We didn't touch the dock and we certainly weren't on it, just fishing around it like every other dock. She comes out screaming at us to high hell to get off her private property. I calmly tell her we're fishing, we haven't gone on her dock or touched it and she doesn't own the water. She claims she has pics of us "on" the dock. LOL. It's not even possible to stand on it. She continues on, says she owns a bunch of water around the pilings and then I just unleash the fury. F bombs and all. I'm too stressed out these days to be accused of trespassing when I'm not and have my guide trip interrupted by this psycho bitch. She says she will call the police and I encourage her to do so. We leave a few minutes later with middle fingers raised, not because of her, but because it was getting dark. I would have sat there all afternoon casting around those good looking pilings just to piss her off at this point. I look forward to posting her dock on a bunch of fishing message boards and then writing a letter telling her all about the boat traffic she's about to have.

Anyways, has anyone replaced trim seals on their outboard? This is the next issue of mine to solve.

Finally, I am doing a Flies for Fire Relief auction for a dozen Redfish flies and two pairs of earrings if anyone is interested in bidding. Both end tomorrow at noon.

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Well, French and I broke his puppy drum jinx today, not without some interesting twists, but I'm tired and have to cook dinner, so I'll let him do the report tomorrow.
The dock thing, though, I had to respond to. First of all, the big unfinished structure is Williams Wharf. Hokienator's mom lives almost straight across from it. But I digress. Here's the deal on fishing docks in public water. The public owns the water, plain and simple, and you have the right to fish around and under the docks that essentially impede your progress and fishing by their very existence. The law is on your side, but the obvious courtesy and etiquette positions should also apply. If someone's on their dock, I pass it by. Even if they're not fishing, I pass it by. I have been confronted twice in this area, once on the East and once on Wilton Creek off the Piankatank this past January when fruitlessly fishing for winter trout. Both times it was sailboat owners and they were worried about their precious craft. OK, I get it and maybe they've heard a jig head or two ping their gel coat, but I haven't hit one yet. I've resisted the full on fury you unleashed on that deserving soul, but I understand your ire. I just move on and fish it next time. I consulted with a crappie cop (game warden, conservation police, you know) about it and also had a conversation with a marine policeman, and they both said the dock owner has no right to keep you from fishing the water around the dock. I asked what they'd say about retrieving a jig that hung up on the dock and also touching the dock if wind blown into it and they said go for it, just don't get out on the dock, but even then, if you weren't trying to mess with their stuff or didn't go nutzoid on them, he wouldn't even respond to a call. The game warden told me to pick the Saturday and he'd round up a half dozen boats and we could all go to the dock in the East, anchor up, crank up the jams and have a couple of beers while we waited for our bottom rigs to get bit.
Upshot to me is the lady was wrong and maybe not quite all there (or drunk), and if you'll let me know more about the dock, I'll make damn sure I fish it every time I go by whether I wanna or not.

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Thanks Fish. I just texted Nator and confirmed that it was not his mother that I chewed out. THAT would have been interesting and the sick bastard in me is half relieved, half disappointed.

The law is indeed 100% on my side and I wish a Marine Cop had been nearby. There is a class 3 misdemeanor in Virginia called Hunter Harassment and I'm curious as to whether they would charge it to a landowner yelling at a fisherman and disrupting his time on the water. There's videos all over the internet of assholes throwing rocks and spraying anglers with hoses. Just fucking insane. I've been told there is a psycho woman on the North who has brought out a shotgun on a few people. Apparently a very wealthy family.

As far as etiquette goes, I never ever fish a dock if someone is on it and I only fish docks that do not have boats on them. If I do, it's because the boat is on a lift and I can cast under it. This woman was in her house, came running out to the dock and declared that she was going to call the police on me for trespassing. I told the story to my parents and my dad laughed, my mother is disgusted at my language but I feel not one iota of regret. Be an asshole for no reason and I'll gladly return it if I'm in the mood, especially when I'm in the right. Next time I'm out there, I have no problem fishing the rocky bank and grassy point right next to her house as well. I'm very accurate with a 7 weight fly rod, there's something unnerving about a fly buzzing past one's head. My other idea is to bring a bullhorn and when she starts yelling just blast back at her that I can't hear her.

Sending you a pic via email of the dock. I know you'll recognize it. It is fishy as hell and surely holds something.

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No, I know Hokinator's dock and have met his mom. While the sailboat at his dock is approaching decrepitude (and he's tried to give it away right here on TKP), the dock is still walkable and his mom is an extremely nice lady who I feel certain wouldn't have acted that way. Now, I wouldn't mess with his dad.....

Edit: My understanding of the right to hunt law is that it includes fishing and while I'm not sure just verbal harassment qualifies, it certainly may.

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Yeah only thing you have to worry about being near my dock is the wirehaired pointer coming after ya but just stay 10 feet off and he'll not try to jump in the boat. I mentioned to flyguy that that dock is owned by some uptights and I've gotten yelled at for fishing it in the past as well. Dunno what their deal is so I avoid it these days as I fish to enjoy my time and cant stand that stuff.
On the right to hunt laws I'm pretty sure you need them to do something along the lines of throw something at you, verbal abuse isnt really enough unless they're like sitting by you with a siren or something or tresspassing to harrass you. I used to do some urban archery in some neighborhoods in goochland years back and would get harassed by the horseback riders who didnt like hunting all the time but I learned to just ignore it and luckily the deer were in no way spooked by them so it didnt effect the outcomes of the hunt so I let it be. Worst thing we ever did was accidentally gut one by a trail and had a few of the whiners come up on us while we were gutting it and scared them to hell and back to find two men with arms soaked in blood and knifes in hand in the woods.

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After 32 years of never catching a puppy drum, Fish helped me recitfy that today. I ended up with four while he caught at least ten (and I may be shorting him), but each fish was short of the slot.

The day started with an awful omen. Fish felt pretty good about me breaking my curse. We went to his first choice spot. On my second cast, I hook up with a nice fish. And... it is a keeper black drum. I lamented my bad luck- only I could be on this mission to find a puppy drum and stumble into the biggest specimen of the wrong species I have ever caught. Fortunately, the pups helped me out and I got the streak out of the way early. The rest of the day was a slow pick. One here, two there, with Fish getting the most. We mixed in a spot, a bunch of spike gray and speckled trout, lizardfish, and other assorted trash fish. It was steady action until the high tide just after lunch. The drum kind of disappeared, although the trout and lizardfish stuck around to tear up the Gulp in the afternoon.

Again, thanks to Fish for the kindness, guidance, and hospitality.

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It was a pleasure as always, French. Glad to get that monkey off your back so you can get back to catching some REAL drum, but you gotta admit that the light tackle thing is a lot of fun even with the relative dinkitude we encountered. I will also mention that I was impressed with your dock casting. We both had our moments, but overall, the casting was good. I do think that docks are a challenge and I also believe you have to go for it in order to afford yourself the best opportunities, so errant casts will be made if fish are to be had. The change in tide and the downturn in the weather definitely shut things down, but it was fun while it lasted. Hope to see you again this year!

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Thanks Fish. I was pleased with my casting, but lost a bit when I tried to switch reels. Lesson learned there.

Those dinks were pure mean. Especially that one that got me under the piling.

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You should be pleased. I experienced the same problem when I switched to my lighter rod, despite it being one of my go to rods for 17 years. And I just can't get good at casting from my left trying to skip under the dock. And yeah, I don't think I've ever caught a red that didn't give more than a good account of itself, but that one gill net damaged one you caught was the exception to the rule. And I do wish I'd have gotten you to take a picture of the one I got with 20 spots, but I think you were fighting a fish at the time.

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Well done and congrats French! Now we just have to put a whippy stick in your hands...

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yay!!! congrats!

Beautiful!

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Gentlemen, I give you a South Florida Inshore Slam (because the normal inshore slam for FWC does not contain snook). I did something different for me yesterday and I took bare minimum out on the yak. Fly rod, battery/motor, water, anchor, net, drinks, and one fly box plus leaders/tools. I started out at 7:15ish in my favorite moving tide spot- 2 mangrove islands about 20 feet apart with shallow grass and oysters between them- and finger mullet were getting wrecked. Started throwing the fly around and on my third cast I got slammed by the trout before I even started retrieving. First trout on the fly! Kept throwing, figuring a Snook would be along any minute, and got slammed again, but didn't set the hook in time like an idiot.

About 5 minutes after that, the rod damn near ripped out of my hands when the first redfish hit. Got him in, took some pictures (via cell phone video). I've got 2/3 of a slam by 8:00. I have to get a snook now. So I leave fish to find fish, like an idiot again. I chased snook for TWO HOURS before I found this little ass guy. Screw it, good enough, got my slam.

Moved to a mud/grass flat and saw glass minnows schools that sounded like rain on the water. I mean billions of glass minnows, and they too are getting destroyed by what I thought was small Tarpon on their way out of town. Start casting, and quickly realize, by virtue of seeing some followers, that they are stud reds. I finally get 2 more to eat. The one took about 10 minutes to get in because he was so stubborn. After that, I got cut of by something immediately after setting the hook (probably spanish mackerel) and chased by a few more reds, but none of them ever commited.

And then the dolphin showed up....... I decided I was tired, and hungry, and needed a beer. So ended the best day of fishing I've had in MONTHS. Great success: I probably found another redfish spot for the winter, I found (in my travels) an oyster bar to check out next time I'm out, caught some great fish, and caught them all on the SAME FLY (pictured.). Sucker looks like it's been through 12 rounds with Tyson.

And then got to watch the Hokies beat NCST. What a day. *I do realize, now that I look at the pictures, that I had my fingers in the reds' gills. I did not realize at the time that I was doing that, I was focused on holding the suckers and getting pictures. GOPRO donations being accepted!*

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Well done! As for the fingers in the gills, it happens. Reds are stubborn and don't always quit when defeated, so it can be tough to get them held for a shot. Plus, they have little bitty teeth that will actually rub you raw in a skinny minnit. Muskies are similar, and most pictures of them have someone with a finger inside their gill plates, since anywhere near their teeth is foolhardy territory indeed.
I envy you your access to quality fish down there in the winter, but Mrs. Fish is Florida averse to the max, so I'll have to live vicariously through you folks down there.
CONGRATULATIONS!!!

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Pretty work! Especially getting all those on the fly. My advice would to be get a fish grip/boga style to keep fish mouth under control for pictures.

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Sound advice about the Boga. I loved mine for smallmouth guiding...took the musky teeth out of the equation as well while providing a pretty accurate weight to boot. Unfortunately, I gave it away to a friend when I left, thinking the salt would likely kill it, and not thinking clearly about the teeth I'd encounter.
Cheap imitations abound, and I understand have improved over the years, but when I needed it, I paid the big bucks for the genuine article and was 110% satisfied. Just for pictures and such, no need to pay for the top of the line, though.

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Some of the serious trophy trout guys use bogas because they release their big fish but do want an accurate weight. I haven't sprung for them yet but might regret it for a huge one. My fish grips do fine for the pics.

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I had one and it decided to go for a swim. Just haven't replaced it yet. And now I'm going to.

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Well done. I might show up on your doorstep with the Hewes (if the trailer makes it) this winter when I need to get away. Sounds like you've got an awesome spot there.

Fingers in gills isn't good. For redfish it can cause YOU harm. First 35" red I caught I did that and never again. My fingers went across his crushers and he crushed. It's like getting your fingers caught in some super heavy grit sandpaper pushing down hard and having to rip them out. If you lip a red they will chomp on your thumb and shake once. Leave a little cut on top of your thumb from their hidden row of teeth. Then they don't do it again.

I no longer do the lipping look for photos because it just doesn't look as good in pics. Just try to support the fish and show his entire side. If you're in a kayak, all the better, get out and get your pic with a go pro and the fish dripping water, those are the best.

Bogas are better than fish grips in my opinion because if the fish tries to twist away, it spins. Fish grips don't and can do some jaw damage. Plenty of folks say bogas cause lots of damage and they might if used incorrectly. I use a boga to control the head of a bigger fish or one with teeth while supporting its body with my other hand. I no longer weigh fish by the bottom jaw. Put in a net and weigh the whole thing if you want to know the weight. Or you could get the girth length and total length with a soft tape and use this formula.

Best way to photo the reds

Snook too

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I'd love to fish with you. F-ing HOA has now made a rule against trailers overnight in the neighborhood unfortunately, so we'll have to figure that out. But if I have some heads up, I can work around the Mrs' school and work schedule to get out!

I'm definitely going to get a new pair of Bogas. And a GoPro. Everytime I look at the pictures I just think about how careless I was, all for a picture.

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Schoolie trout have shown up. Over 20 trout in two trips this weekend with only one over 20". MR27 caught most of the fish. Lot of aggressive males. One even went full air born mid fight. Getting a feel for the suspending lures

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If any of you saltwater guys know Mike Woeffle out of West VA who musky fishes the New frequently and makes Hellbender lures. He expanded his line to make bass size lures and they are dominating reds here. The bait we're catching them on is a 8" overall length with 4 of it being tail and the reds don't turn it down and its something they haven't seen from an artificial standpoint. He's got a mold for a smaller overall length one I'm about to get a shipment in of. I'm kinda his liaison for the saltwater game but if anyone is interested in trying them out let me know, I should be able to get either size to you for a deal especially if you're willing to spread the word.

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I'd like to give the smaller one a try...if it works in Charleston, it will probably work here...when it stops raining/flooding.

Let me know what I need to do

edit: or the larger one...casting distance is important here

Do you have a website or Instagram link I can take a look at them?

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This is his musky page he just got into the smaller baits they're are a few pictures of them on his page.

It's a bulldog style lure with a lot more hang and a little more kick in the tails. I rig the 8" on an 4/0 or 5/0 keel weight ewg

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Went out early Sunday to my usual haunt, no fish roaming the flats, fished up creeks and inlets and scrapped up a few nice slot size reds, spike specks, and trash fish. Even caught 3 spot on a 4" paddle tail which was unusual...

Spent the early part of the morning fishing topwater for trout in the shallows. Had something big blowup twice on one retrieve on my skitterV in less than 2' of water.. but not much else. Might be time to switch to suspending baits

They were wacking my MR27 this weekend. Also got some corkys in that I can't wait to try. Had topwater for 45 minutes one trip but I pulled all those fish off.

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Yeah I think it's time to change over to subs. I've got a huge variety of the mirros and corkys. Looking forward to trying them out

Yep, I'm just starting to figure it out. They thump those 27s so hard even the 15-18" feel big.

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What color MR27? In CFL (Brevard County) the 808 scheme kills it in the surf and in the ICW.

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808 seems to be everyones favorite other than a citrus pattern.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Purple demon in low light. Pilchard skins color the rest of the time. 808 is definitely a money scheme but haven't thrown it as much.

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That Pilchard 27 is one of the most life like lures I've ever seen. Maybe I should take it out of the package, huh?

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Snuck out to the beach just before the daily round of thunderstorms to see if I could find anything lingering in the runouts at low tide. However after a few casts...the Lamiglas Black inshore spinning rod I picked up last year, and have barely used, snapped in half between the 4th and 5th guides whilst retrieving a lead head tipped with a gulp swimming mullet.

Rod was in pristine condition...not even a hint of a scratch on it. Debating whether to go thru the replacement/warranty hassle or just learn from the experience and avoid the brand.

But I did get back just before the sky opened up.

Well, as a former Lamiglas guide program fellow who knows a bunch of Lamiglas pros, I'd suggest you get them to replace the rod. Unless Lamiglas has somehow given up the qualities I found in their products in my guiding years, they're a great company with great rods. I broke one Lamiglas rod, due to braid, a hang up on rocks and an errant 4' wave, but that was operator error. Two more, I broke with a roll over of a table saw in my van, again, my bad. I have owned maybe 15 Lamiglas rods and would be hard pressed to trade them for anything I've found on the rod market (I do find their lower end fly rods unexceptional), but maybe that's because 16 years of otherwise exceptional Lamiglas performance has clouded my judgement. I had some clients mistreat my rods to the point of sending them back for repair, and Lamiglas always did me solid. My buddy Cecil had a Lammy musky rod he left in his truck in extreme sunlit heat have the reel seat slide sideways and then reglue itself when it cooled. He'd had it for several years at that point, but the factory fixed it promptly and for free. I'm still using the Lamiglas Certified Pro rods I bought for smallmouth fishing 16 years ago and have yet to use a more sensitive rod, another reason I don't feel the need to use braid.

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I'm going to call them if I can find a #

Well, that sucks! Let us know how the return works out. Too bad they're all the way over on the left coast. If you really can't find a contact number, I'll look through my old stuff and get the number I used. It is a small company, privately held, and is way more popular on the West coast, but like I said, they've always treated my return experiences well and relatively swiftly. Hope that's still their style.

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My contact number for Lamiglas in Woodland Washington was 800-325-9436. Haven't called them since I retired 8 years ago, though. Hope it works.

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thanks!

edit: that number works, as did another I found (360/225-9436), but they are routing everything thru their on-line portals

time to play the internet game

And again I say, "Well, that sucks." I know they're a little company, and they had to really change their business model during the last depression. I'm sure they're struggling like most are in the Pandemic, and am sure they'd blame it for the situation, but for me, customer service includes a live person when needed, or even just when desired, and I'd rather wait a half hour on hold than be pushed into on-line service. Some of us old folks is just like that, I reckon.

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I think their storefront is closed due to Covid. Web site says give them 4 days to respond.

I love most Lamiglas products. But I have heard bad things about the "Black" Lamiglas offering. It is their answer to the success of the St. Croix Triumph as an economy rod. I have heard several people complain about components falling off, or blanks breaking.

Of all I have owned or messed with, I have liked the St. Croix blanks best over G. Loomis and TFOs in the higher end market.

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For those like to try new things, the Kistler Helium series is lovely (wait for 20% off sale). The light-medium heavy seems like it would be an excellent inshore rod.

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Absolutely hammered them in the rain today on the Rapp. My two clients, one a complete beginner who could only cast ten feet, and another guy who was good enough and could cast 40, put 35 trout, stripers and one blow toad in the boat, all on fly. Every fish came on the hottest new color combo from Knot the Reel World, the lavender over chartreuse Clouser with pearl and black flash. Biggest fish was a 21" trout and there was a 23-24" inch trout hooked that came off. All fish caught in top secret wide open spots that everyone else fishes. We were the only boat on the river and got soaked, but it was fun and worth it. If I was fishing by myself I have no doubt I would have stuck 70. These guys missed a bunch. My schedule is getting slammed with client bookings, which is great but damn I want to get out there myself.

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Pretty work! The rain can definitely help the trout bite.

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Got to spend the afternoon with our man French. He dropped by on the way south and we tried to catch him some fresh spot. I arrived earlier than him and caught a couple of puppy drum, 12 and 15+, a couple of spike trout and one 15+ trout I kept, thinking he was mortally wounded. Turned out he wasn't, but I'll eat it tomorrow anyway. After he showed, we pecked away at it and ended up catching enough to have made it worth it for him, and it was fun to hang out and tell tales with the mindless drifting of spot fishing. I also caught a little bigger red that gave me a good pull on French's St Croix, maybe 16 or so. Anyway, hope French finds his big drum this week, and I'll take a few days off.

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Today's report- bad.
More tomorrow.

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I read this from the comment tab before I noticed it was the fishing thread and about had a stroke. I want to whip Duke bad after last year!

Well, it'll be no consolation to you to hear that French filled me with trepidation about this game.

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Without derailing this thread - NC State has already scored 17 on Pitt through the second quarter and Pitt's defense is SUPPOSED to be really good. Maybe we're just really good/better? I have very high hopes for today.

This thread is just fine with derailing, usually anyway. Yet, well, here we are almost two hours later, and we see what we do with Pitt up. I do, however agree with you that I am encouraged by the way NCS is playing and competing, and it definitely gives me the same high hopes. Pitt's D is coming through and they are getting some offense, but still, I feel even more legit than I did last Sunday. I'm a cautious believer, for sure.

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Hell yeah! Belief. Validated!

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

Positively giddy here in the Fish house.

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Any opinions on the new shimano vanford offering folks? Seems like some nice upgrades at the same price point

Seems like a no-brainer to me - if you're in the market at that price point, there's nothing better.

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By the way, have you had any luck selling your boat?

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snuck out for a few minutes in the neighborhood ahead of todays round of rain

picked up this little guy on a small "wake bait" modded w/ in-lines

Pretty work, Dave!

They really are beautiful fish, no matter what size.

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