OT: September Fishing Thread

Well, the Dog Days thread has been moribund for three days, true dog day stuff, so I thought I'd try for a ray of hope with the September skies and soon (I hope) to be falling temperatures and nights less humid than Equador. Here at the Bay, we are hoping for trout and rockfish to amp it up as the water cools.
So here's the forum for all your questions, suggestions, gripes and miseries related even tangentially to the world of fishing, boats, crappy trailers, baits and gear. Welcome to the Fall and may our Saturday fishing be interrupted by Hokie Football!!! A feller can hope, can't he?

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I'll start off with a short report. Fished for three hours this morning looking for reds and trout in the East River of the Mobjack Bay in the Chesapeake Bay, for orientation purposes. We didn't do all that well. Got a couple of rat reds, and a half dozen dink trout and a lizardfish. All mine on Gulp, my buddy caught a couple of trout on a trout trick with scent added.
Afterward, I did some riding around and stopped by the Gwynn's Island boat ramp and started up a conversation with a fellow launching a jon boat there. He saw my VT hat and started talking like a Hokie. I noticed his visor had a turkey on it and away we went. He was a nice fellow and it was fun talking with him, although it was mostly fishing. He has a TKP handle that typically, I forgot in minutes, but I won't forget his name and here's a big shout out to Matt and hope he had a good day today, despite the brutal heat. Meeting a Hokie on the boat ramp is like hitting the trifecta for me, and it always makes my day.

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I'll be out in the East this weekend so I was hoping for a little better of a report, but I appreciate it anyways. I'm still optimistic with the luck you've had there lately.

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Water was up to 84 degrees and still cloudy. Hopefully the holiday weekend crowd won't get in your way. I think I put the jinx on us today, though. I took a camera. Best of luck, please let us know how you do.

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Gale force winds today, ain't many going out and they aren't out for long, I'd guess.
When you do get out around here, I've heard things about the drop offs producing trout when the grass isn't too much to allow a clean retrieve.

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Tom, Thanks so much for the shout out. It was so great to meet another Hokie at what I plan to be my second home. Mathews is such a wonderful place. I ended up ok that day we talked. I was able to work my way up to an oyster field up the Piankatank and picked up a puppy drum and some croaker. I followed your advice and worked the channels of the Gwynn's Island bridge and picked up some croaker on the nightcrawlers. A nice day on the water. I get down there about 2/month for now exploring the area. Appreciate the advice on bait. I will certainly try the gulp next time. Looking forward to catching up again soon. Go Hokies!

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I'm so happy you found some fish. Keep me in mind when you're in town. Once this viral nonsense has abated, I'd be glad to take you 'round and show you some fishing holes I've found. You found one of my recent spots to at least try there at that oyster reef at the mouth of the Piankatank. It's a brand new reef, but this time of year it holds fish, if you can keep from snagging up in the oysters. We've not caught drum there, but tons of little black sea bass and even a nice 20" flounder, some trout and blues also roam over it. As that reef matures, I expect it will be a steady producer, plus you can get there in your jon boat rig.

EDIT: Matt, if you want to give me a shout next time you are in town, my phone number is (local 7_5)2680. It's a land line and all of Mathews has the same first three numbers. Look forward to seeing you around, and yes, GO HOKIES!!!!!!!

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Thanks, Tom! I will certainly do that. Look forward to catching up soon.

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Well i sold the old jon boat today,

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

So, are you cryin' or celebratin'?

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oh man, you get anything to replace her?

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I'm looking at those little plastic buggies with the 2 raised swivel seats or maybe I'll go for one of the Blue Sky pontoons if I feel froggy and spend the big bucks. I Will catch a walleye in Little Creek!

Scott have you sold your's yet?

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Friend of mine went after mackerel a couple of days ago off of the Rappahannock. They slayed them. Caught maybe 30 smallish ones, then moved north and got into bigger fish. They boxed their limits and he said there were plenty still biting when they left, though the best bite was at the changing of the tides.
I figure he was trolling planers with small Clark spoons.
Also said they got into keeper gray trout and small redfish aroung the Rt.3 bridge over the Piankatank

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In Avon for the week. Brought some gear... Any recommendations for bait and timing of fishing? I rarely fish at the beach, so this newbie would appreciate any help!

Is coronavirus over yet?

Sand fleas on river rigs fished up close (lip of the beach.) You can get pups, pompano, sea mullet, and I have even heard that some sheepshead have been caught in the surf.

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Note- I don't know how to tie a river rig, but I have been told they are more effective than a dropper loop bottom rig like I tie.

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Much thanks! We were out last evening fishing, up near the lip of the beach, and hooked onto a dozen or so little pups, but that was on shrimp (what the guy at the pier gave us). It seems like there's quite a bit of action out there.

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I want to chime in on French's take. Sand fleas are one of the most underrated or overlooked fishing baits there is for NC surf angling. Croakers and flounder and pompano truly do love them. I've mentioned before that the soft shell fleas are the absolute best, and can be found with diligence, but the hard shells also work great, especially when there are a lot of fish around. My buddy used to use his kids to sort through the fleas for the soft shelled ones, paying them a nickle apiece. The kids loved it and we enjoyed the fruits of their "labor". The pomps would typically be in the curl, though the biggest ones are usually around the first sand bar off the beach. They come in with the waves, turn sideways so as to take advantage of the skinny water as it receded, snatching fleas in an inch of water on their way back out. Last year, I caught the two biggest ones I've ever caught on fish bites on the sand bar, but I'd fish the curl if I really wanted to catch pomps.

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Have you guys ever used the Gulp! fleas? I've always used fresh ones, but am headed down in 2 weeks and bought a couple packs of the artificial ones to try for the first time.

I've not used them, seen them only on line. Fleas are free and easy to get, but in lieu or in a non flea situation, I'll vouch for about anything Gulp makes. Like you, though, I'm interested to hear if anyone has messed with them.

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I went yesterday in the Africa-hot conditions we had here. Got into the middle of a mixed school of mullet and redfish, and could not get the redfish to commit to a single goddamn fly in my box. I had 3 inspections on a fly I tied on Friday night, all 3 refused when they got down into it...

Did get 3 snook to the boat, so that was fun. 1 keeper, but of course I was fishing in the closed zone... so nothing came home except my lobster-lookin self.

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Anyone with experience fishing Lake Burton in NE Ga? In December?

Daughter and BF's family will be there Christmas week. They'll have a boat with a depth finder and trolling motor, but are coastal types like me with no lake/reservoir experience.

All advice appreciated.

I went out around the Mobjack today. Started in the East, got skunked, went to the North and foul hooked one lizard fish into the boat. We did see fish hitting the surface in the North and one got on the hook but we didn't land it into the boat. I'm thinking they were spot, they weren't anything large.

After the East and North, we hit a reliable honey hole in the Mobjack. We saw a bunch of drum but they wouldn't bite on anything. We ended up getting one throw-back trout and one smaller keeper trout. Another person was fishing there and he said he couldn't get the drum to bite either but while we were there we eventually saw him pull in two ~20" ones.

After the Mobjack we went to the piankatank and got into a hole. We caught small drum and perch for an hour straight. No keepers, but still a good way to end the day.

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Nice day to be on the water, too. Did you run all that way, or trailer over to the Piankatank?
Thanks for the report, nice to have a hole on the Mobjack with drum in it.
I'm going Tuesday when the herd thins out and parking again becomes available at the ramps.

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The boat was trailered over. Good luck today and let me know if you can get those drum to bite. We used peelers and artificials and still couldn't get them.

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Been out modifying my trout eye and red eye jigs. I paint the heads with red sparkle fingernail polish and a clear coat of hard as nails, but I also got out a file and waled away on some of the red eye jigs to remove some lead for a lighter jig.
Reason is that I have lost a few fish lately with the trout eye jigs and I believe it is because of the short shank on the hook. For smaller fish, I don't sweat it, but the big reds have me wanting a bigger hook but not any more weight since I'm fishing reasonably shallow water with a lot of hang ups around.
Heading out early tomorrow to see if I can hang onto them a little better...if we can find 'em. I'm also going to finally try those swinging jig eye thingees with the Texas rigging. I put one on a popping cork, so that's pretty new for me. I'll bait it with my Gulp of choice, a 5" Jerk Shad in white and chartreuse. Rumors of trout around, and I'm sure my buddy will start out on top, so wish us luck.

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Fished the East and North all weekend but aside from 2 croaker it was no bueno that said with all the boat traffic maybe it wasnt a huge surprise. Did manage half a bushel of crabs in one day from the pots off the pier so atleast we got one good crab pick in before summers up.

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We met at 6 and fished until about 10:30. We couldn't fish a couple of places we wanted to because of the wind. Started out on a drop off and I got two 13" reds on a popping cork with a gulp jerk shad. My buddy threw topwater and didn't get a look. I had maybe three or four more bites with no hookups.
Moved to structure, and I got another small red and he got a 12 and 15" trout and a couple of small stripers. I also caught a sand perch, a nice spot, a small trout and a couple of lizard fish. My buddy then caught a gray trout (10") and I caught a whiting. 8 species, all of his on Zoom Super Flukes, all of mine on one sort of Gulp or another. We moved into the river and hit a dock that had a big school of small trout hanging around it. We caught several but since there was no size to any of them, we packed it in. Beautiful morning even after the wind came up, cloudy and not hot. Water was 81 degrees in the East and we could see a couple of feet so the water looked good. I didn't catch a striper, he couldn't find a red. While we were disappointed not to have a topwater trout bite early, or not to have found those bigger drum, it was, as usual, just great to be out there.

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Noticed the water as well this weekend it was super clear compared to a week ago or so when it was dark brown and this weekend it was really clear so I would imagine the fish were a bit pickier being able to see much better.

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Been surf fishing down in Avon about 500 yards south of the pier. To the advice above we tried our best to grab some sand fleas and fish just off the lip of the beach. It is ROUGH right now. Can't keep the bait on...

then today, at the advice of the guy at the bait and tackle shop down in Buxton, we went to bloodworms and couldn't reel them in fast enough. Mostly small Pompano with a croaker mixed in here and there. Rainy, windy and rough surf, but a whole lot of action.

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If it's alot of pompano fortunately you can stick in the first trough most likely and if it's really rough fishbites will last better than natural live baits. Sandflea stuff works too well then.

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Well, hokiegigs and I had quite an eventful time Fishing on this years family beach trip to the OBX. Every fishing outing was productive in some way or another whether we had to search or the stars aligned and we slayed them (not that we know what we are doing or anything).

First morning out was a grind, I had a huge missed topwater blowup at sunrise that I'd like to think was a gator trout but I'll never know, couple hours later and we found some weakfish (firsts for both of us), and some smaller puppy drum with one nicer fish to the boat.

Second trip was a flounder/sheepshead mission which was certainly a bust in terms of the flounder.. a spot that I had had significant luck in years past produced nothing. After we finished there we headed to the OI bridge in search of sheepies.. unfortunately the shop was out of fiddlers so we had to settle for frozen sand fleas.. first fish on was an enormous black drum (my first ever)that gave my 2500 Ci4 quite a run for its money on a ML rod. After continuous spool emptying runs, we finally got him in the net. Shortly after that we found a couple smaller sheep (also firsts for both of us) and gigs locked in a super thick 16" sheep! After another hour or so it seemed as though the bite had died off, we had headed back to the ramp with hopes to stop by a couple flats we had fished in previous years.. we got to a bar and realized the trolling motor was bottoming out, and there was a huge slick on the opposing drop off, so we got out and decided to wade fish. I tossed out and immediately hooked up on a red and so did gigs. We picked a couple others off and had several get loose. Timing was just superb and it was one heck of a way to end an already fun day!

Final fishing escapade was a lucky one, we happened to wade out in the sound with our soon to be brother-in-law who had never been saltwater fishing and we found what felt like endless redfish. None of us could believe our eyes at what was happening, but we hysterically enjoyed the moment as he seemingly became a redfish fan instantly!

Fun trip that yielded some of the best OBX fishing I have ever had!

Pics to come

That is a very pretty soundside fish

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Beautiful fish dude!

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Finally made it to imgur to see your fish. Great week, lots of fine fish, indeed. Thanks to you guys for the pics.

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In addition to slinger's post above finally getting around to posting about my second solo trip. First, thanks to flyguy for the launch spot. I went out last Wednesday morning at first light and dead low tide. It was so calm and humid that I was looking forward to the wind (ironic after getting blown around the previous Saturday). Picked up a small drum and a nice 17" trout that may have bit off more than he could chew. Picked up a bunch more trout on a super shallow grass flat. Found a school of a few tailing reds swirling around but decided to throw a fly and spooked them. Missed a solid red around the point and then went back and picked up a 20" red (my biggest in a few years) where I saw them schooling. I almost forgot how addicting that drag peeling is. Picked up a few more trout and a small red as the tide was coming in and then nothing for a while so I called it. Super fishy spot and fun to explore and get on some fish.
My wife and I also caught plenty more pomps and mullet in the surf mostly on bloodworm fish bites and some on sand fleas. And she got her first couple puppy drum wading in the sound. All in all a great week of doing mostly nothing and almost enough fishing.

You are welcome. Well done and glad you got into them. The term "endless fish," when describing fishing for reds, is my heaven.

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I'm going to Hatteras next week. Do you guys typically use leaders when fishing in the sound?

Unless I'm using braid not really. Just depends what you're targeting as well.

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Trout and drum

Then no you wont want one unless like I said above youre using braid. If braid then get some 12 or 15 pound flouro leader and use a blood, double uni, alberto whichever knot youre comfortable with. For the trout and drum a typical inshore rod and reel medium weight with mono will be just fine.

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How do you feel about the Albright knot for joining lines together?

Works well too. Everyone has their favorite knot. I prefer the FG, some like the uni to uni, bloodknot, albright, all preference

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Anyone use the six-turn surgeon's for braid to fluouro? It's the easiest/quickest knot I've found to tie. I got tired of screwing up the double uni knot so I switched and haven't had any issues since.

The surgeon's knot is routinely underused and under valued because it isn't as slick a presentation as those other knots are. Surgeon's knots are as strong as any other, I think, and so easy to tie, even in the dark. They definitely don't look as nice, but you can trim them close and they don't seem to hang up in the rod tip guide. Perfectionists will disagree, I'm sure, but there are a thousand knots out there if one wants to be a purist.

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The surgeons one is an easy one to learn and use. Personally I prefer the Albright knot for braid to flouro knot as its simple and goes through the guides smoothly and has been the most reliable for me.

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Yeah, I agree, but sometimes, expediency can chime in. Or, in my case, laziness. If I have the time and inclination I do one thing, but when I'm in a hurry or it really doesn't matter, I'll do another. Don't listen to the old man, though, always do it right. You'll profit from it in the long run, for sure. And certainly the more you tie a knot, the easier and more naturally it becomes for you.

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How long do you usually tie your leaders? I usually tie mine short enough to where the knot doesn't go into the guides but I can still cast effectively. 24" or so. So the size of the knot generally isn't an issue. In the slightly murky and usually shallow water I tend to fish I feel like the braid isn't going to spook them (or at least there's less of a chance) so the fluoro is more for abrasion resistance than stealth.
I run either 10 or 15 lb braid with 14 lb fluoro so the surgeon's knot is pretty small or at least I think it is. I'm going to try the Alberto and see how it slides through the guides compared to the surgeon's because having to swap out a leader after a few re-ties is a pain on the water so a longer leader would be nice.

with the "Alberto", you don't have to pre-cut the leader so you can cut to length as you see fit after you've tied it. And the knot will be about 1/3 less diameter since the braid is all that's wrapped. I fish medium to light spinning rods and 2500 series reels. No issue with the Alberto knot going thru the guides. Over time my leaders have gotten longer...probably around 3' now

edit: just measured one of my recently tied leaders at 4'

and the knot...

That's all I use now thanks to Dave. It's served me well. FG or PR knot if you need close to 100% break strength when fishing light tackle with heavy drag on bigger fish. Most braid breaks well above advertised breaking strength.

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for those that like to throw tandem rigs for speckled trout (or perhaps shad?), just leave the tag end of the leader long enough to tie a second jig.

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I cannot make it work. I am not a clever man!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

I can, but don't have the patience, eyesight and dexterity to make it an easy tie. But other than my heavy offshore stuff, I don't use much braid anyway, so it's not much of a loss for me. Have said before that a good rod and tight line is all I need to feel a light bite, but to each their own.

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I sense a lack of true commitment, lol!

braid needs a flouro or mono leader

Nope I tie braid directly to jigs and I can't tell you how many bass that rig has caught.

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Yes and no. If I'm flipping heavy jigs into mats or punching them, I'll tie a foot or so of 50lb fluoro leader in as a shock absorber. A good hook set from a 7'6 heavy rod with 65lb braid will kill a fish if there isnt a shock absorber. I've done it, sadly.

Other than that, yes. Braid straight to the jig.

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Point taken. I don't think I've ever killed one. I don't use a 7"6 just a seven. Wouldn't mono work better? Flouro has little stretch as I have seen / read.

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Mono does work better from a stretch standpoint, yes. Some of the cheaper flourocarbons have enough stretch to be ok. And since I was broke at the time, cheap was the way I went more often than not.

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Anyone have recommendations on somewhere to get Penn reels repaired? I'm in the Chesapeake area.

Scooted out this morning with my son to get some fresh air and throw a few lines in at the local pond. Beautiful fall morning!!!!! And I caught what was the smallest largemouth bass I've caught and/or seen. Not even the length of my phone from nose to tail. He went back to get big and strong for the future.

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NE Florida for the week. Worth throwing a line in the surf or should I just drink and golf all week? Water temp still mid 80s and air temps the same or higher. Not sure if anything worth chasing will be around or not.

Edit: also renting a pontoon with the family Friday on the ICW near Matanzas Inlet. I have no clue what I should try with regard to fishing from this boat in the river. Any tips would be appreciated.

Pompano and whiting have been strong in the surf up there from what I've read on the Florida surf anglers FB page.

The mullet ought to be starting to work their way south soon if they haven't already, which means anything is possible.

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Wow, i wanna know if any pomps r caught in 80 degree water, thats very warm for them. Please provide a report.

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That's what I was thinking too.

No pompano expert but they are a summer time surf fish in NC where I'd think those surf temps are 80 or above. Might be different in Florida

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Yep. We never used to catch them at Hatteras until late summer when the surf was almost flat.

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There's a few. Down by me we dont see them until december at the earliest, probably January the way the water temps are trending this year. Those are all well north of me

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Red and black drum in the surf 2 hours either side of low tide...fish the holes by the cuts between the first and second troughs...should be prime time.

Inshore, the connections between the ICW and the Pellicer Bay/Creek complex are worth fishing; the closer you can get to Matanzas Inlet, the better. My spots in the creeks are running brown right now with all the rain. (edit: so inshore north of 206 is probably a waste of time. I'd fish between Washington Oaks and Devil's Elbow. Water clarity should be better in that stretch. If it isn't, it isn't good anywhere)

Thanks! Fished two hours at Flagler today so far but not the right tide. Fished the two hours around high tide. 5 whiting and a catfish, 3 keeper whiting to fry up with the seafood boil Friday night.

I'll check those areas on the inshore side. Appreciate the tips!

Ended up with enough whiting for a decent fish fry Saturday evening. No luck fishing during the family boat rental cruise up to Matanzas Inlet. Caught one catfish just to let my daughter reel something in. I did hook something on a shrimp and popping cork. About 24", silver with a deeply forked tail. Pulled like crazy and jumped twice about 5' out of the water and then threw the hook. Maybe a small tarpon? Not really sure, could have been a lady fish.

All in all not a bad week in Florida. Headed home today to get ready for deer season, the bow opener starts in less than 2 weeks and I have a lot to get done. More than likely I'm done with fishing for 2020. Good luck to everyone the rest of the year.

we got lots of ladyfish around here.

and today a whole bunch of water...highest tide we've had that wasn't a hurricane

While I didn't do my almost daily ride around to a local wharf/fishing pier and one or both of the local boat ramps (don't tell Mrs. Fish, I also buy an 18 oz Bud for the mellowment of these days, I can say that yesterday's high tides had the walkway at the local ramp flooded, and the parking lot as well. The local wharf was flooded and water was all over the parking area.
We're a long way apart, but sorta same same, huh? My house is way at the top (but not on waterfront, we bein' of modest means) of a small creek that must have been a lot bigger at some point. Way too shallow for anything but a kayak these days except in way high tide, but wide enough to have been subject to "events", or something in the years of old to make it as wide as it is. While my next door neighbor has tidal and hurricane water at one side of his place, it just hasn't influenced us even though we are really pretty low down in elevation.

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I'll estimate that water in the photo is about the 6' contour

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fresh dead shrimp in the surf (or live finger mullet for reds if you have a cast net); if you are anchoring up a pontoon boat inshore with family, live mud minnows on a jig head is a good universal bait.

on the west bank of the ICW...the first cut south of (almost across from) the overpass north of Marineland and the first two cuts south of Marineland all have deep holes very close to the ICW. You can see them on google earth. Those are pretty easy anchor up spots. They are beyond my normal fishing home range but I've seen enough dolphins, kayaks, and boats in there to know they hold fish at times.

I watch very little TV but there was a fishing show on last night (FSS I think) with a guy named Hoover kayak fishing Flagler...I caught the last minute. looked like he was fishing Pellicer last winter if I had to guess. If you can find that one on replay, it might give you ideas for future trips.

edit: yeah Chad Hoover, season 9, episode 2

Watch your gear. My car was broken into on Friday morning (in Mechanicsville) while I was in Roanoke for a wedding. They took a big plastic tote filled with pyramid sinkers (8, 10, 12, and 14oz), my rain paints, my bait knife, and a big wad of assorted tackle.

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Damn that's not good sorry to hear you had stuff stolen I can't imagine that's any fun.

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I got lucky. My Yeti and pier cart were also in the car, but didn't get touched. They ransacked my glove box and center console.

I just ordered a new pair of rain pants. Ouch. The sinkers will be tough to replace too. All 10, 12, and 14oz pyramids for the drummiest of drum days.

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Definitely can rule out anyone with a salt life sticker if they left the yeti behind. /s

Weird of all things they would go for the lead sinkers I know they aint cheap but not much else theyre good for. Some days I'm thankful I've moved out in the hills where I have a bit more privacy these days.

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Also just depending on how many he had could be awkward as hell to carry around. I imagine whoever did it was not to pleased to get home and realize they were lugging around a bunch of metal weights. Only place my car has been gone through in the area was the fan and they emptied my center console and glove box into the front seat and took nothing. Guess they didn't need harbor freight allen key sets.

I remember visiting some friends in the fan back in the mid 70s and one of them had a car that had been broken into so many times he left it unlocked and had a sign on the window advising thieves that there was nothing left to steal. So they broke his side windows out, all four of them though all doors were unlocked, popped his hood and stole a 6 year old battery. Thank goodness there were no rods and reels in the car, French.

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Thanks for the reminder french. I can leave my gear in the car at times. Sorry about your stuff. Those bigger sinkers are harder to find for sure.

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Fishing the Jackson below Moomaw on thursday and I just realized I dont have any tippet for my 4/5 wt trout rods for anything bigger than a brookie so anyone got any good recommendations on what sizes? I was gonna grab a pack of tapered and then a small spool of some flouro tippet for tying droppers if we can fish drys with a nymph under it.

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I'd normally throw a 7.5', possibly a 9', 4x or 5x in that situation but you'll probably get as many different answers as you get people who respond.

Thanks I'll probably just grab some stuff when I stop by anglers lane to get some flies as well since I'm going in blind as usual. Would love the rain to hold off and allow some dry fly action as I'm taking a friend with no fly fishing experience and I find fishing the surface or something like a streamer would be easier to teach.

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Was hoping to take French out this Friday to break his puppy drum jinx, but more and more the weather looks too hinky to pull it off. Hoping to reschedule soon.
Tomorrow calls, however. Low temps and humidity with light winds predicted. I know it's going to be a perfect day to go early for some trout and reds in the Mobjack, but I'm actually being pulled by whatever it is in we fishermen to do something you love to do even if it isn't maybe the best bet. Yep, I'm going flounder fishing. When I first moved here, I went floundering early and often, but as the years have gone by, the flounder locally seem to have gone with them. But, be that as it may, I'm going to give it a shot. Great thing is that I know how, where and with what bait to catch them, IF they're there, that is. Bad thing is that they haven't been there way more than they have lately.
Report, as usual, to follow. I'd like to kick off my 8th decade with a flounder fry and I ain't a-buyin' 'em.

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Best of luck if you're desperate for a flounder fry Captain Greggs in old mechanicsville is my go to for fresh fish.

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Thanks. Luckily, my neighbor two doors down is the local fishmonger. He has a big trailer and serves fresh cooked seafood Wed through Fri, sells fresh seafood as well and also on Saturday. He parks the rig at the new M&M hardware store where Super Value used to be. Serves a mean fried oyster Po Boy.

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Decent chance I'll be out on the East again Saturday morning.

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Really? I have been seeing NE 20+ this weekend. Some places close to 30.

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Yep, 20-25 winds with 4-5' waves and a chance of showers thrown in. I'll stay home and watch somebody somewhere play football, I guess.

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Yeah I see 15-20 but with the wind N/NE I have plenty of covered spots to fish, even though I won't be able to travel much. May go hit another hole in the area I've been wanting to hit recently as well that's well covered.

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Were you able to get out? Tide and wind made for a sporty lookin' day on the East. I saw a couple of work boats out, but nobody else, though there was a truck and a trailer at Put In ramp. Beautiful day, otherwise.

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No, we were taking another person's boat and he ended up having to drop out. Weather was a factor, but also other obligations.

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The puppy drum's gain will hopefully the big drum's loss. They love to chew in weather only an Alaskan crab fisherman could love.

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happy birthday Fish!

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Thanks, brother. I had a pretty decent one, all things considered. I cooked up some fine scallops and asparagus, washed 'em down with plenty of Corona Light, and followed it all up with a couple of bowls full of 'nanner puddin' with whipped cream...
Now that I've lived long enough to make the 4th quarter, it's time to go fishing and I must admit I wish I'd had a couple less lights and maybe only one bowl of pudding last night, but it was, after all, my birthday. So far this week, I've had shrimp, redfish and scallops, so it's definitely time for a flounder fry.

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This makes me happy; happy belated birthday Fish!

Hokie fan | W&M grad

Happy belated birthday man go get a few drum and hopefully a flounder and enjoy the day!

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Happy birthday! Tight lines!

*Makes note- bring Fish scallops when we finally get to fish

*Edit- shake fist at the sky

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I wish I'd had a couple less lights and maybe only one bowl of pudding last night

nah, you're entitled.

happy birthday!

Happy birthday Fish! Tight lines

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A good little surf/drum fishing tutorial from Oceans East.

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Got out yesterday, slow afternoon pulled hooks on what felt like a nice trout early in the fight. Had a fish miss my topwater 4 times in one cast guessing it was a striper. Last second topwater bite at sunset made it worth it with a 21.5" and 22.5" striper and rat red in about 12 casts

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nice!!!

Trip to Cape Lookout Friday morning through last night. I arrived Friday mid day to meet two Hokie friends / frat bros from college. We hopped on Pretty Fly and got to the Hook to find spanish busting on micro bait. We hooked up on spoons and fly and a few of the bigger ones ended up in the cooler. Cruised around all over the area and I showed them around. Caught a few other species as well, including small Jacks, Blues, and a Lizardfish. We ate dinner and hit dock lights that night. TONS of fish popping but they were incredibly picky. We caught six or seven trout total. Really fun time drinking beers, playing tunes and telling old war stories while trying to get the picky specks to eat flies for my friends. I was able to succeed to get them trout on the fly, which always brings me joy. We were up till 3:30 a.m. out there.

Saturday the wind was HOWLING so sleeping in was nice. We fished inshore on a row of docks that has been consistent all summer. Unfortunately nothing was biting, probably due to the poker run going on 50 yards away. 30-50 foot speed boats, dozens of them, fly past. I hate those fucking things as much as jetskis. I do not understand the appeal. On the way back under the Atlantic Beach bridge, dodging these fucking boats, I look down to take a sip of my beer when I hear a big cracking sound. The other guys yell out and I am blasted with fish slime across my face. A 20" spanish mack had lept out of the water and crashed right into my windshield as we were cruising at 20 mph. It was knocked out for awhile, then started shaking again before I put it in the cooler. Very weird way to catch a fish and if it was a foot higher in the air, I would have taken it in the neck. Pretty crazy. At the dock I was asked to take a fish survey for a, NC Wildlife Officer. Upon explaining the only fish we caught had jumped in the boat, he said he would mark it down as the very rare checkbox of "captured using other means." We again hit the dock lights but higher winds made it tough. I caught a nice 20 inch red that was a dance of a fight on the 6 weight pulling him out of the dock pilings.

Sunday the weather was rainy as hell. The other guys had to leave mid day. We looked for albies from the Hook to Beaufort Inlet but found none. Cruised around shark island as there was a lot of birds diving but found nothing while take a wave over the bow which was pretty sketch. We went back to the Hook and found the Spaniards willing again. Biggest turned out to be 22". Pouring rain and we called it. My friends took off back to Charlotte and I took an hour nap in the truck. Awoke to clearing skies and the wind dying down. Figured I would go do some exploration with the sunny weather overhead so I splashed the Hewes again and headed north up behind the Cape. Found a really cool creek that had several redfish in it and stayed there till dark, dodging a few big thunder boomers. Ended up catching two reds on fly, and three more burning a spoon. Biggest was 22". Nice way to end the day.

Crashed at my friends house in MHC and Monday afternoon we headed to the Neuse in his 28' Contender to see if we could bait fish for old drum. While cast netting the bunker, Natalia threw in a popping cork. Second cast she hooks up and we land the 30 pounder. Really odd considering they are super noise shy and we were running the twin engines around not 15 yards from the school of bait where she hooked it. We fished 30 minutes along more bait balls and I tried the fly to no avail. An hour later we were anchored up in the middle of Pamlico Sound and the wind kicked up. I'm considered to be a pretty big sissy by these two who offshore fish in any conditions, but this was rough. Waves coming over the bow as we were anchored in 10 feet of water. I'm a sissy about the rough weather because I get really seasick and this was no exception. We were out there for 3 hours and I puked four times in between hooking up 5-6 times on the rod I was manning. Two reds and one big ray landed. The larger red I did a quick estimate at 48", my personal best. It was pumpkin orange. Natalia caught four more herself as we rocked back and forth. We left them biting and had to fight our way back in through the weather for two hours. It felt so great to set foot on land again. My sea legs wouldnt work and I almost fell off the dock. My midnight order from Cookout consisted of two sicy chicken sandwiches, two corn dogs, and two packs of nuggets to refill my stomach. I'd definitely do the night time bait fishing again but I'd prefer it calmer. As French said above, the old drum like to eat in weather an Alaskan crab enjoys. I already applied for the citation online and look forward to getting that in the mail. Hoping to get down there again before winter arrives.

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Pretty drum!

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Thank you. I thought of you and your love for the old drum while out there. They are amazing fish but goddamn that was some uncomfortable fishing.

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Yep. I am going to try to fish the Northeaster Friday AM if I can find some bait. Right now, spot, cobbs, bluefish heads- not much around.

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Glad you got to enjoy the crystal coast. Looks like a solid trip. Gonna try to make it down there for some albies and some trout this fall.

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There are so many trout on the docklights it is not even funny

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Nice! I'll need to remember that when I'm down in mid October.

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Took my daughter to Flagler today for an hour to try to catch a fish on her 8th birthday. We scored 4 keeper whiting, 3-4 small whiting, some odd looking fish I've never caught before and threw back, and 4-5 catfish (hard head I think) that we also tossed back. Great short trip to the surf. Hope to hit it once more before Friday and add to the bag of filets we're frying up along side our seafood boil.


Wasn't one of these was it? They have teeth, and a bony head, but get a few of these that are bigger and they are tasty. A lot of work for tiny little bites, but yummy.

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No it was silver and the skin and scales looked similar to whiting. But it had like a bulbous forehead for lack of a better description.

Edit: quick search tells me it was probably an Atlantic Threadfin (Polydactylus octonemus).

Sea Robin, right?

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Yeah. They are in the canal in Lewes. Fun, but ugly.

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Yeah, if it will play our silly game and then pulls hard, I'm happy to catch them.

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I think they are pretty as hell and they slam a fly

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Any folks know any good seafood places in Richmond which sell whole/fresh spot?

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French, wish I'd have known. I could have sunk my boat with spot today on bait and bottom rigs. Would have been glad to ice 'em down and meet you Friday morning on your way to the pier. But, well.
Definitely not fishing Friday around here, though. Best of luck.

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I didn't know. Once we pulled the plug, I got assurances of bait. Now, it has dried up with the weather coming. I have a possible hook up on some tuna belly, but I have never caught a drum on it.

Glad you wore them out today. I spent about 6 hours on a laptop. Ugh.

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Well, thanks for all the well wishes from my TKP compatriots. Here's my report from today's outing at Milford Haven and the Piankatank. First fish of the day was a spot, as were the next two or three. Hitting my Gulp 4" swimming mullet (chartreuse, of course). Then I hooked and soon lost a fish I would have almost bet the farm was a flounder. Next drift, I hooked up again, and it was as it should be, what my friend GI Jack would call hooking a Walmart bag, but with a funny little head shake. It actually fought pretty hard for a flounder, but it was the target species. 19" and in the box. Might have had another one on, but the tide quit running and things got dinky, with a black sea bass, two spike specks, and a 12" gray trout coming in. I decided to head over to the Piankatank for some dock fishing, but stopped at a newish oyster reef on the way. Promptly hooked up with a nice (for here) bluefish that pulled drag and gave me a couple of jumps, maybe going two pounds. Also caught at least a dozen black sea bass, but with the biggest going 9 inches. That reef has held them since a half hour after they finished putting those oysters down, and it hasn't changed yet. They hit everything Gulp, even half of a Gulp. I finally tired of that, but I will say that those little black willies can fight way above their weight class.
Hit some docks on the 'Tank and caught my first rat red. Next fish, however, was a 14" cobia (go figger) and then I got on a dock loaded with rats up to 15", and another three or four spike specks.
Tide was running by then so I went back to the Haven. Got two flounder on my first two drifts, a 10 and a 15", so the boxed fish stayed lonely. More dink trout, more spot, and maybe the biggest lizardfish I'd ever caught. Almost kept him after seeing a video of a guy who said they were delicious, better than flounder, with the whitest fish meat he'd ever seen...but I didn't. Lost another couple of fish that I think might have been flounder, but then things just died, and I absconded.
As per flyguy's experience, I saw two Spanish mackerel hanging in the air near the Gwynn's Island bridge, but they were too far to cast to. Never seen them in there before. Strange year.

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So question for all of you OBX fishing guys...

Last week while fishing the surf in Avon I landed what looked like a puffer fish (about 8 inches long). White belly with bright green eyes. Is that what I actually caught?

I wish I had a picture, but we ran down between the torrential downpours and I didn't have my phone with me.

Is coronavirus over yet?

Did it have yellow on the sides? It sounds like a puffer. Brown with a white belly is a blow toad. They are real good to eat if you know how to cut them up. Sadly, I don't.

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Cut down behind the head and find the backbone then follow it down the rest of the fish. Pretty simple, you get a chicken tender looking filet.

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Definitely a "sugar toad". That's what they call them when selling the tenderloins in seafood shops. We grew up calling them blow toads, but puffer is definitely what you had. Cool eyes, no? And front teeth that would make a squirrel envious. I remember on a pier one day and these two guys caught a few big ones. Back then, eating them wasn't common, so these yahoos tickled them into blowing up, then drop kicked them off the pier (yeah, poor form). We finally learned how to clean and eat them, but my dad thought it too much trouble with the skinning and all so we only did it a couple of times.

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Local forecast has us getting more than 4 inches of rain today and tomorrow, with high winds coming in as well. Coastal forecast for Saturday through Tuesday is sunny with 20-25 and higher gusts, waves 5-6'. Not lookin' good. I've just read that we have had an algae bloom in local waters as well. Wondering if all this rain and churning will dissipate that stuff.
My neighbor didn't do well trout fishing yesterday in the East, while a buddy of his limited out on trout near Ware Point.

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Just saw this report from Red Drum Tackle. I'm headed down next Saturday for a week, so I hope they stick around!

"The Drum are here! Big ones biting everywhere, little ones too! Several Drum caught from the Avon pier and from the beach. Big Drum and Slot Drum...Get your butts down here and fish! Lots of citation Drum caught in the last two days! Blue Fish caught in Hatteras and at Ramp 49."

They will be around but whether or not they are within casting distance/biting depends on wind direction. Its been north wind pattern for a few days which cool things down and turn the bite on especially early season. I believe french has generally said in the past if the wind is in your face its good drum weather. Good luck!

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yep. all the fish being caught now are locals from Pamlico Sound that have come out to enjoy the rough water (turns on their feeding.) The population which summers in the Chesapeake was still around southern Maryland and Tangier last week.

Usually prime time is around Halloween for the northern beaches, with Avon catching them into November.

If we get this sustained NE 10-20, they will be eating. on the east facing beaches. This weekend may be a bit too much. I am going to head down tonight and fish tomorrow, but it sounds like today the water cleaned up and the drum vanished, despite the storm.

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Get after them French! You deserve some pullage.

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Well, if you don't get to go, then get the calendar out and let's line up that puppy trip. I can't show you drum like flyguy's, but I did get a 15" red yesterday that was as golden as his, a first for me. Maybe the calm down after this storm will have some of those bigger reds feeding up and moving south through the area, but I expect the dock rats to hang around for a bit yet. Best of luck at the pier, maybe the rain will give you some space and at least the wind will keep Covid at bay.

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I ended up pulling the plug. No sleep today + an overnight drive with lots of standing water on the roads just wasn't in the cards. Bummer too, because I got a sweat hook up on bait.

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Can't say as I blame you. Wind got up last night, but is fairly quiet right now. We ended up with 2-1/2" of rain with a little more to come, and then I guess the wind will get serious.

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Hopefully will be fishable by Thursday. That looks like my next window.

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Too soon to tell, but trending good.

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Kicking myself a bit. The guys in the know are throwing 12's today, but they are catching. I had a sweet bait hook up (not cobs, but very large and fresh fingers) and would have been in the fish today. I just didn't feel safe making that drive after being up since 6AM and only catching a 2 hour cat nap. I am not as young as I used to be.

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You don't know unless you go...

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Certainly. Throwing 12s is a hell of a way to break in a season, though. That is like going to run a timed 400 and not stretching for a year before hand.

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Like my ole buddy Cecil always said, "You ain't gonna ketchum settin' around watchin' Roland Martin on the Tee Vee." in his Radford twang,

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Yep. But being alive and at home in bed beats hydroplaning or falling asleep at the wheel.... at least that is the call I made.

I am not going to lie- I had a sweet hook up on bait when it was hard to come by, and it was at least drummy this AM. I am FOMOing a bit. But, it would have been 6+ hours of driving for a 4 hour window, with no sleep. 26 year old French says "balls out." 42 year old French says "I need to make 43."

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No way I'd have even contemplated it, so kudos for at least thinking about it. Here's to better days and fewer sleepless nights.
We will, however, require an early start when we finally get out on the Mobjack. Great thing is that it won't be that egregious of a commute for you now, and I'm getting old enough to not need to see sun up and sundown on the boat, so you should be home well before dark.
Live to fight another day. Something else Cecil said a lot was "Well hell, we ain't in no big ass hurry, are we?" Hopefully you'll get more shots at them before they're gone south.

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you made the right call

Last year the rats were around until 3rd week of October

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Everyone have a great fall and tight lines!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Took my oldest son on his first kayak fishing adventure yesterday as a surprise. Woke him up at 6:00 with everything loaded up and ready to go. Stopped and got 3 dozen shrimp, then launched. Since I was worried about space and weight distribution, I paddled instead of bringing a battery and the motor (boy am I feeling that today...)

Stopped at a mud flat for some finger mullet to add to the shrimp, and then headed towards the pass. Fished the beach with no luck for an hour so, and then went offshore about 100 yards where he kept getting cut off by spanish mackerel. Headed back to the beach for some whitebait, then stopped at the mud bar for an ambush point on the now incoming tide. Both of us sliced our feet open on buried oysters, so I cleaned, patched and waterproofed our feet. Stopped under the bridge where he schooled me on how to catch snapper- seriously, he caught 7 keepers and I caught 1 about 8 inches. Schooled.

Went to my redfish/snook spot and he played around with the snook until we ran out of bait. In all we caught the 8 snapper and ended up at 10 snook, but no slot fish.

Burnt and sore, but boy was it a beautiful day. He wanted to stay out but I honestly didnt have the energy to get more bait and paddle more.. We were out from 7:15ish to about 1:30. If I can get our snook picture to load, I'll edit it in later tonight . (Now added)

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Making memories! Good stuff!!
He'll never forget this day.

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Nice fish! That kid hasnt gotten a good gill plating from a snook yet I can tell nothing sharp as their gill plates I swear.

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Yeah, I warned him about that, but that's the only way he would hold it. After 3 warnings, I said ok, your call.

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Nothing short of a lesson learned the hard way to teach ya what not to do. Some of us like myself tend to learn more lessons the hard way and we turned out just fine, that said I learned just how nasty their gill plates are the hard way when I had one shake free and catch my hand.

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Same here. Only takes one time, that's for damn sure.

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There are a bunch of fish with sharp gill plates. I wish once was enough to keep me from getting sliced still, occasionally. Fish can bite back, whether with teeth, gill plates or dorsal fins, and if you catch enough of them, you can expect to bleed.

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Guided on the Mattaponi today. It was the clearest I've ever seen it. Tide did not drop as much as it was supposed to, which doesn't make sense with the NE wind. I figured it would be tough sledding, but we had our chances. Client missed at least two eats and blew two shots at fish, one definitely a bowfin. I've resigned myself that most of my clients won't be able to cast well or stripset, no matter how I teach them and it results in many less fish caught and seemingly, less tips and reviews. I just can't make them see the goddamn 25" fish literally at the end of the rod tip and get the fly in their face. If you go on a fishing trip, please practice before hand. And practice a lot. It makes everyone's life on the boat easier and you as the angler will end up with a better day combined with the guide's expertise and excellent vision.

Hoping to get out on the Bay this week but all I can think about are North Carolina Redfish, per the usual, and all of them for me since no one else can cast apparently.

In boating and trailer news, the brand new motherboard on the Minn Kota is already acting up. It's 3 weeks old. My truck is still in the shop and unknown as to the repairs needed. If anyone would like some entertainment in the form of the list of trailer, boat, boat motor and truck issues that I've withheld from TKP this summer, I'd be happy to share for nominal fee of one White Claw per reader.

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Took me three days to recover from my fight with a near citation brown trout thursday but after fishing the Jackson all day thursday to no avail except for one dink brown and a minnow of some sort not a fall fish it was an uneventful day aside from the fact we all ended up swimming in our waders at some point. Taught my friend how to fly fish somewhat okay but couldnt get any fish to eat for him unfortunately. That river is a tricky bitch to wade in and left us all feeling like a bunch of drunks stumbling our way to our demise. It rained all day of course pretty sure my wife conjured up a storm with her namesake to spite me for her not being able to go. Friday wouldve been perfect but we didnt get the opportunity to flex out of the date we picked.

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Went to mountains with a new fishing acquaintance, got play with some native brook trout. Biggest caught was around 10-12". First time really doing the small water fishing seriously. It was a lot of fun. All on ultralight spinning gear not a fly guy yet haha. Will have to do it more but need to get back on the speckled trout bite.

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Nice natives, 3rd. I was into that for a while back in the 70s. We used Panther Martin in-line spinners, gold with the little dressing on the hook, treble barbs mashed, of course. Folks might frown on it nowadays, but those little devils are some fine tasting table fare, but there seemed to be plenty of them then.

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Thanks, Ifish. We were using trout magnets (little split tail soft plastic). My fishing acquaintance was saying how the catching the natives is completely different than stocked. We released them all. Unless one choked it, I don't think I would keep one. It would be cool to get one in the 15-20"

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Yeah, I know the trout magnet. We caught a lot of fish up to about 15", and not many bigger than that. I used to have a closely held secret sorta spot with three ponds and a long hike into and out of the spot. I got a few in the 18-20" range, but they were leaner than some. I caught those on countdown Rapalas and wasn't keeping wild trout at that point.
When I was eating them, I had access to water that had healthy populations of them and it was no detriment to the fishery, but I guess I wouldn't do that these days. In Giles, my stream had a seemingly endless supply of wild rainbows, but toward the end of my time there, I only ate one fish, a 5 pounder that had been killed by a heron but was too big for it to swallow. Still quivering when I found it, I smoked it up. It was delicious, but our fish dinners had turned mostly into fried walleye by that point.

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I figured you would. I have no problem with other people keeping them but usually have a steady freezer of offshore fish and some summer cobia so will keep very little inshore/freshwater unless eating them day of. I had some smoked salmon for the first time a month ago and it was delicious.

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I lived in Oregon for a year back in '76, and one day while driving near the coast we stopped in a little bar and grill for a pitcher of beer. We noticed folks with smoked salmon plates and crackers. Turns out the owner was an avid salmon fisherman and smoked his own there at the bar. Best salmon I've still ever eaten, and as I recall, we got a pitcher and a plate of the salmon for about $10. We went by a couple more times until the salmon was gone for the year. I moved back East before the next season, but will never forget how good that stuff was. Don't know what he did to make it so damn good, but I was too young and self absorbed to even try to find out. That was a bad move.

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alder smoke; if it's like most out there.

Sounds about right. The fish was dry and flakey, too, and a thick hunk, not some see through cellophane slice. Served with just the crackers, no cream cheese, minced red onion or capers.

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After 9th-11th grade in NOVA, I graduated HS in suburban Portland. My dad was also a conservation official so we had family friends that did a lot of that sort of thing. And yeah, their smoked salmon was the best I've had as well.

In '75, I had a summer job with SCS (now NRCS) dropping off equipment for snow measuring in remote places in OR. In summer '76, I worked for USFS in WA. Pretty country.

Wife and I moved there in the Spring of '76 after we graduated VT. Lived in Springfield, worked at the Eugene Mall. Stayed a year, but never could find decent work, so I limped home. Met some really cool people. Used to drive by Ken Kesey's farm on our way to the coast and the old bus from his wild days was parked in a field by the road. My extreme poverty pretty much put a damper on my life there, and my biggest regret was never getting over to Bend.

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In 1976, I don't remember anyone intentionally wanting to go to Bend. But it was definitely uptown compared to Burns.

Our HS biology class camped at the State Park in Bend along the Deschutes. That was a good trip...

Some of our friends out there preferred the desert to the coast and Bend was mentioned often.

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beautiful area

Beautiful fish! Thanks for sharing.

I love fishing the little mountain streams and rivers for brookies. It helps my confidences as an aspiring fly fisherman!

Is coronavirus over yet?

If I ever finish my house construction projects, we will have to meet up and catch some Brookies on the fly and talk football and Fox bodies.

I would love that! Just let me know. We can grab a beer one day.

Is coronavirus over yet?

You're welcome. They give you enough opportunities which is all you can ask for. Once I get more proficient at small water fishing, I'll give the ole buggy whip a try.

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Get yourself a 7'6" 3 weight, and a handful of size 16 yellow caddis flies and size 18 wet flies as a dropper and have at it.

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I picked up a small setup like that last year and it's been a whole lotta fun!

Is coronavirus over yet?

I can see myself getting one in the future for sure.

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I grabbed a 7 foot tfo bugging rod thats a 4/5 weight and use it for everything from panfishing all the way to brook trout. Bass pro used to have the setup with line and all for a really nice price.

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For fishing small brookie streams with lots of overhanging vegetation, a 2 or 3 weight, 7 - 7.5 footer is all you need. Graphite or fiberglass is the major choice and is a casting style/feel that you have to try to decide.

I've also used a Tenkara rod a few times... Easy and a lot of fun

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Yeah it can get really tight and with the fly casting I can see getting snagged on vegetation with being a beginner. Definitely a 7 -7.5 footer would be preferable. I'll see what types of area I fish more and then make the move on a fly rod.

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Learn to roll cast

This x1000, no need to do any real casting if you can roll it out at all. If you really trust yourself learn to do the slingshot casting but only if you dont mind hooking your hand potentially.

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Noted, makes a lot of sense to roll cast in the tight spaces.

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When its really tight with the rhododendron surrounding you, you do the Bow and Arrow.

Those are gorgeous. I have only caught natives in one place, Taylor's Creek in LaAnna PA.

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Went with a buddy yesterday to soak chunks of crab for bull reds at Ponce Inlet. 20-30 mph winds. Tides were totally screwed up. Got rained on going back to the ramp. Not even a sniff at the bait. My head is in a Dramamine fog this a.m.

But it was a very worthwhile trip. Got to spend a day with a great friend talking fishing, family, and life; sadly a rarity these days.

And for French or anyone looking for a handicap accessible pier with a chance for a big fish, the one at Smyrna Dunes Park might fit the bill during the fall run...at least it looked that way from the water.

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Afternoon team, question: going to be in the 757 between Christmas and New Year's, and I would like to hire a guide to fish inshore/close to shore, targeting reds, black drum, speckled...and the like.

Any guides on here interested or available? Any recommendations? 3 adults, 3 kids between 7-10.

Thx!

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I would but I don't guide that far south and I couldn't fit more than two on my flats boat.

There should be a really good winter trout fishery that late on the Bay

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Thx bud鈥攄o u know enough fellas in that area that you'd feel confident making a recommendation? Specifically we are staying in Chesapeake. Appreciate any insight.

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Might be pretty tough to find an inshore trip for 6 people. I do know that the Elizabeth River fishes fairly well in winter, and I have a Hokie buddy in a fishing club down that way so I'll reach out to him.

Edit: Most boats around the Bay that time of year are chartering for stripers. Not sure whether there's a viable charter business for drum and trout that time of year in that area, though.

Reel men fish on Wednesdays

That time of year the best bet is the striper run if they're there and the later in the year the bigger they get and its mostly trolling or corking an eel in a lot of water but can be better than a slow day inshore that time of year.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

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