OT- Beer 2021

First off, with the stress climate how the heck do we get 3 weeks into the new year and no beer thread for the year yet?

Second. Beer

Third. Wacha got going for favorites lately?

I've had a hankering for 2 different types, Imperial Stouts and DIPA or at least some old school but not over the top NWIPA. The NEIPA thing with the hazies has moved past my overton window and I see too many beers hazy for the sake of being hazy and have so much hop added that I'm tasting too much of the vegetal/broccoli thing.

On that, Deschutes has come to my rescue lately as well as some locals.
The Abyss is a good barrel aged Imperial Stout.
Red chair has been my lower ABV choice but Dogfish 90 minute has been a feature lately so much I had to brew my own Triple IPA and got it on tap on Wednesday.

Twisted Tracks in Roanoke opened up by 2 friends, the brewer is Will Landry. He knows what he's doing and they have a kitchen. Think upscale pub food. They opened in the building that Soaring Ridge was in until last year. 5th and Shenandoah.

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You don't know how much I miss tailgating.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

Yes I do... It has been very sad with no tailgating....

Beer-wise: I have been drinking Old Bust Head Caramel Macchiato Stout, Old Bust Head Vixen, and I tried Dogfish Campfire Amplifier.

2 time Longwood grad married to a Hokie.

One of the guys gave me a caramel macchiato to try. It's in my fridge right now.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

The one I have is good, but I wish it had a little more caramel flavor. It's very coffee heavy.

2 time Longwood grad married to a Hokie.

Me too Thom - hope we're able to next season.

There was a thread the other day in a beer group I'm in that discussed the best beer you had in 2020. Everyone is obsessed with big BA stouts but my favorite was a fruited saison from Floodland called Exoculo. I'm not a fan of the harsh, tart saisons that seem the go to for craft breweries so I wasn't sure I would like it but it was awesome. I'd love to try some more Floodland beers but they are in Seattle so tough to get here.

man, nw ipa ... hard no.

i have been enjoying wc, southern cal variety lately, but not the nw style.

actually, my new goto 1 beer (DIPA or Imp stout), followed by some barrel/full/cask proof bourbon to follow.

new brewery in the 757 coastal fermentory, opened by some friend have been killing it for a start up. his farmhouse ipa and saison ... swoon.

coastal fermentory


"My advice to you... is to start drinking heavily."-John Blutarsky

I just finished off two bud light drafts while watching kids at the Sevierville water park for 3 hours.
I may have another.

Hey, whatever you enjoy, enjoy in moderation.

I know we tease a lot (insert gif here) but if we all liked the same thing, it would be boring.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

I just invested in Saucy Brew Works in Cleveland on Start Engine, looking to make a trip to one of their brewpubs this year. They are working towards opening two new locations along with expansion of their brewing in the coming year.


I'm brewing another round of my motueka ale tomorrow. That has been most of my consumption for the year.

Yeah. Top hop. Lots of cool opportunities in that.
I need to try that beer, next tailgate.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

I still need to bring you some fruitwood for your smoker. Have it piled. Just haven't traveled that direction.

I completely forgot about that.
I have had a hankering to smoke some meats.
I was spotted staring at a big chuck roast with bad intent at the grocery this morning.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

Seems like something I should try to arrange in the near future. Finding myself in Salem today visiting a job site. But, didn't quite have time to prepare.

Got kind of burnt out on NEIPAs and have moved back to the more bitter IPAs. I almost forgot how good Bells 2 Hearted was and that's been mostly what I've been reaching for.

Also Hefeweizens because they're always the answer.

Little Bobby Tables told me my signature was false

i am burnt out on a lot of them, the really, really good ones, still kick ass tho


"My advice to you... is to start drinking heavily."-John Blutarsky

Found a Brut IPA the other day that some brewery in Manassas is still making. Wish the style had caught on for more than a couple months. Tired of the sweeter hazy stuff that every brewery has 4 barely distinguishable versions of on tap

Yeah, I did a beer that, while not a brut, was a real nice high ABV beer and dried it out by adding really high gravity very short chain wort to it after primary fermentation in several batches.

Added several batches to it until I got it to the dryness I wanted.
This way it stil" had the body of a regular beer but the dryness of a brut.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

I've been loving Rocket Frog's Angry Angry Alice for a while. West coast DIPA, but with big fruity notes from Citra and Mosaic.
Last week I had Jester King's mixed ferm Grisette with raspberry and wow was that on point. Right balance of fruit, funk, and a bit of acidity.
Making a split batch of rye milk stout and black IPA tomorrow as well. It'll be interesting to see where these end up with the same grains, but I've gets an adjunct and the other gets a bunch of hops and an extra 30 min of boil time. Plus an English yeast strain for the stout and Chico for the IPA

"That move was slicker than a peeled onion in a bowl of snot." -Mike Burnop

I really like a nicely done black IPA.
If I get the time and fermenter space.....

This is going to be great for the ACC.

Dude let me know I've got some ideas for that. Miss bringing TUM to you. Maybe 2022.

You wanna do a colab?
Are you allowed to?

I just saw your little tagline for the key club. Very nice.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

Me, too! I just don't drink a large volume of it. Grains are Maris otter, malted rye, golden naked oats, pale chocolate, and blackprinz (Briess debittered black malt). Hopping with Nugget, Amarillo, Cascade, and Cryo - Simcoe. Normally I'd pare the variety of hops back, but I'm working on getting rid of some leftovers as a homebrewer. OG was 1.070 (may have overboiled) so it'll be on the line between standard and double IPA. I'm very excited.

"That move was slicker than a peeled onion in a bowl of snot." -Mike Burnop

I enjoyed this one

VT '10--My avatar will flip, when things are right at VT again.

Rick Monday... You Made a Great Play...

Romanes Eunt Domus

I have not even seen that anywhere.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

This has me interested. Where did you pick that up and how was it?

In Sidney, MT.

VT '10--My avatar will flip, when things are right at VT again.

Rick Monday... You Made a Great Play...

Romanes Eunt Domus

What country is that in?

This is going to be great for the ACC.

Big Sky.

VT '10--My avatar will flip, when things are right at VT again.

Rick Monday... You Made a Great Play...

Romanes Eunt Domus

Isn't that a video game?

This is going to be great for the ACC.

Haven't had any chance to enjoy anything in 2021 because of some complications from COVID. Once I am able to partake again, Columbus Brewing Company has a new Insane Wanderer Experimental IPA I can't wait to get a hold of. Also during winter I am in to hard ciders. Rhingeist out of Cincinnati has one called Snug that is very tasty and Downeast Winter Blend never disappoints. Outside of this i always seem to default back to Columbus Brewing Company Bohdi or Rhinegeist Truth.

In the same boat here.

Really looking forward to trying more local NJ beers from Carton, Red Tank, Jughandle, and Bradley Brew Project. Jughandle in particular has a toasted coconut vanilla porter I'd like to try.

Aside from that, I very much enjoyed the limited run offerings from Ommegang -- specifically the variants of the Three Philosophers they had around. Bourbon barrel aged, coffee blueberry, so on. All very good.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Thanks for the NJ beer recs. I've just started exploring local NJ brews - so far my favorites have come from The Alementary Brewing Co.

I'll always plug Casita Cerveceria in NC. They've got two double IPAs out now that are smooth af and they've never disappointed me with their stouts either.

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

Haven't had a chance to restock, so mid-December's the last beer I had, a tasty Imperial Stout by Anderby called Chunkzilla from just up the way in Peachtree Corners. Pretty sure I'll be loading up on porters and stouts again on my next run.

I've started out the year rotating between Miller lite, Bells Two Hearted Ale and Ole bust head caramel macchiato stout. I've also stayed away from the NEIPAs recently.

Oh I always forget to plug this brewery: if you're in the DC/Baltimore area I can't recommend Sapwood Cellars enough. Two very knowledgeable former homebrewers started a brewery in Columbia, MD and they make great beer. Mostly hoppy beer and mixed ferm, but they throw in stouts, Belgians, and lagers. All of their beer has been great.
If the names Mike Tonsmiere (The Mad Fermentationost/author of American Sour Ale) and Scott Janish (Scottjanish.com and The New IPA) ring a bell, it's those two.
Their blogs taught me a bunch plus the beer is great so I probably overpump them. But they've never made an average beer!

"That move was slicker than a peeled onion in a bowl of snot." -Mike Burnop

I met both those guys a couple years ago. Bought Janish's book from him.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

So many wild brews in this thread. I may be a simple man but get me a Bass Ale over any of it every day of the week

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

OMG, he's full of marketing. Verve and Vibrancy....
I've made lagers for a decade professionally and win awards.
$90/4x12oz is all hype. Like adding gold leaf to a vodka....

This is going to be great for the ACC.

It's not immediately obvious but it's $90 for 6x 500ml

Let me know how to get your beer (assuming you ship to CA).

It is not legal for me to ship to CA.
Sorry about that.
Thanks though.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

No worries. How about in Virginia? I can see if my brother can get some for me. He is in the Richmond area.

My old boss's nephew runs Westbrook Brewing. He told me a story about how they usually have a bottle or two hanging above the bar they price over $1k. Nearly once a month groups of guys in suits come in trying to one-up each other and one of them buys a bottle. People are dumb.

$90 per six pack sounds extremely expensive, but it's not quite as pricey as it seems at first. It's merely /very/ expensive as those 6-packs are 500ml (16.9oz) bottles, not the standard 12oz

$15 for a pint can or 500ml is a price point is similar to many premium barrel aged / adjunct stouts and wild fermentations. (e.g. https://shop.theveilbrewing.com/product/double-vanilla-holiday-treat-wha... or https://www.aslinbeer.com/online-ordering/Ashburn-Village-p262155565 ) Of course the ingredient costs (adjunct imperial stouts) & production risk (wild ales) are far far higher than that of a lager...

Deftones is releasing a beer called Ohms Pale Ale

Tears in my eyes
Chasing Ponce de Leon's phantoms
So filled with hope
I can taste mythical fountains
False hope, perhaps
But the truth never got in my way
Before now, feel the sting
Feeling time bearing down

Dry January for me, so no beer until next month. Anyone else doing dry January?

best of luck to you!

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Not on purpose, but yes i am.

Enforced but yes

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

The wife and I made it a week and then settled on damp January. Down to a low-calorie drink or two on the weekends only. Already planning a run to The Veil or Triple Crossing for some cans on Jan 31st though.

Whiskey drinker but yes, I tried. Made it 2 weeks. Last year I did a dry January because I felt like I really overdid it during the holidays, especially New Years Eve. Made it the entire month that time.

I take a break every year after the Superbowl. Not drinking beer during prime football season (big bowls & CFP + NFL playoffs) seems non-optimal

No alcohol, sugars, or starches. Glad that is over with. Hope I can keep that 25 lbs off and not have to do it again next year.

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

I'll be giving up alcohol for Lent and donating what I would have spent to charity. Will be a mostly dry second half of February, all of March, and start of April. Allowed to have 1 drink on Sundays.

Recovering scientist working in business consulting

If any of you are near Aslin (Herndon, VA, Alexandria VA) their beers are generally excellent.

Used to live near Port City (Alexandria, VA), and they are solid as well.

Recently had "Holiday In My Head" from Mustang Sally (Chantilly, VA). Very Enjoyable.

I like Port City much more than Aslin, although recently Aslin has been branching out from their defacto hazy DDH DIPAs and pastry stouts, so I will probably be stopping by again to see what they've brewed lately

Port City is awesome! I used to work in Old Town and a growler fill stop on the way home on a Friday was a regular. Just relocated from Springfield to Charlotte area last spring and I miss Port City a lot. They claim to distribute to NC but I haven't seen it down here. I asked my brother to bring a case of Integral IPA and some Maniacal DIPA whenever he can come visit.

Where's the beef?

Some great breweries in Charlotte. Heist, Devine Barrel, the Southern Tier collaboration, NODA are my favorites, but need to get down to Concord and check out was going on there. Hearing good things.

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

Oh definitely. I like Sycamore a lot also.

Where's the beef?

I opened a 2018 Goose Island Bourbon Stout last week. Definitely one of the Top 5 I've ever had. Maybe top 2.

I like your glass too.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

I thought you might. My wife loves her Macado's glass collection, but I always reach for this one or my Ballast Point glass.

On the topic of Chaos Mountain, I was in there a week ago. I kicked the door in, looked around, and yelled "I'M HERE TO SEE EGBERT." Once I saw how confused everyone was I remembered that's not your first name! Turns out you had the day off. I hate I missed ya, but it was still really cool to see the inside of the place and talk beer with everyone for an hour or two.

I found TKP after two rails from TOTS then walking back to my apartment and re-watching the 2012 Sugar Bowl. I woke up the next day with this username.

They told me some nitwit came asking for me.
I saw the notation on our whiteboard wall.

Yeah, usually Saturdays I'm not there.
Sorry to have missed you though.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

Very nice! I opened a 2017 on this past NYE and it was very good as well.

We did a tasting with 2017, 2018, 2019, and 2020 versions a few weeks back. Been keeping an extra bottle or two of each every year. The 2018 was the hands down favorite

That's awesome. I'm so glad to hear that the 2018 was the best of all the years. I bought it on a whim when I was in a bottle shop. It was very tasty. The mouthfeel was so silky. Never had anything else like it.

About to try my hand at making my first pilsner. Wish me luck!

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"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I'll plug that I work at Audacious Aleworks in Falls Church, and AA (heh) has 20 taps with a great variety of beers across the board - from a traditional lager or pils, up to porter/stout, and everything in between (sours, wheats, IPAs, malty etc). I love me some Aslin and Solace but if you're not big on juicy IPAs or stouts, you're pretty boned there. AA has several traditional styles, classic IPAs, and fun, adjunct loaded beers too. I'm there WED and SAT, come holla!

Been loving some IPAs from Maplewood and several styles from Off Color recently thanks to a drive to Chicago over Xmas.

Locally - just hit up Forward Brewing in Annapolis, who had a spectacular Wee Heavy and German Chocolate Cake Dunkelweizen, and Bluejacket - Run Rudolph Run was an awesome Imperial Stout. Always love stuff from Crooked Run, Rocket Frog and Old Bust Head

The Cup is going nowhere Mikey!

Haven't tried Rocket Frog yet, even though I'm close by. Any standouts?

I'm a huge fan of Angry Angry Alice, their double IPA. It's a west coast style hopped with Citra, Mosaic, and Simcoe. Huge mango and citrus notes, but it's dry and super drinkable.
Their Munich helles is also solid if you're into pale lagers.

"That move was slicker than a peeled onion in a bowl of snot." -Mike Burnop

Definitely agree on the Angry Angry Alice. I also really enjoy their Wallops Island with Coffee brown ale, and Sledding with the Alien, a fairly crushable imperial with Vic's Secret and Citra.

The Cup is going nowhere Mikey!

I'm about 3 weeks out from covid and I'm regaining taste and smell, tomorrow is the super bowl, so I decided to grab some local NJ brews.

My local liquor store/bottle shop is under new management and recently started expanding their
selection of local independent craft beers, and I'm so excited about that as it will save me some driving.

Snagged two offerings from Forgotten Boardwalk brewing (whom I forgot to mention above). I got Funnel Cake Nitro, one of my favorites for a style I don't typically drink (cream ale). also grabbed some tall boys of Forgotten Boardwalk Dark Ride, which is a "black chocolate salted stout", seemed interesting enough to try.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

The calendar (and my taste buds) has given me a break from NE IPAs, and I'm doing a lot more stouts.

I just tried Left Hand's Peanut Butter Milk Stout, which was surprisingly good. Standard go-to stouts are Left Hand's regular Milk Stout and Horse & Dragon's Sad Panda Coffee Stout.

Druckenmiller the shotgun snap, fakes short, fires it deep into the end zone it is....caught! It is caught for a touchdown by Jermaine Holmes with 47 seconds left!

I have not tried sad Panda though I've been told I need to. I have not seen it locally but, I also haven't been to a bottle shop in a long time.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

It's so good. I'm drinking one now, in the can. Let me clarify - out of a can, not in the bathroom. They are one of many good breweries in Fort Collins.

Druckenmiller the shotgun snap, fakes short, fires it deep into the end zone it is....caught! It is caught for a touchdown by Jermaine Holmes with 47 seconds left!

Port City Colossal X is an interesting twist on the American Barleywine style. Malt sweetness is more subdued than typical, and the hops bring a quite floral character. Definitely a cellar temp or even room temp beer.

Now that Dry January is over I finally get a chance to get out and try a few new ones. Incendiary Brewing in Winston has had several really nice beers come out. The BBA Dragons with Matches Quad, Interception of Entropy Stout on a Willet Barrel, and the Imperial Porter Luna Pie were excellent. Wife liked the PB&J Milkshake Shift. Tried Burlington Beer Works, Red Oak, and Oden Brewing in Greensboro this weekend. At Burlington, I liked the molasses spin on their Quad - strong banana bread notes in a browner color. Wife like the Apricot Blonde. Nothing seemed exceptional out of a shared IPA Flight. At Red Oak I tried the Black Oak - good for what it is, but tradition german beers are more my wife's preference. I'll try Oden again. Great outside venue, and solid beers of multiple styles. Solid Albier, Belgian Strong. Full flavor session NEIPA. And A very interesting sour - tasted like a hop flavored sweet tart.

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

General question to those who brew. A lot of the triad area breweries seem to following burial brewing's lead and adding lactose to their heavier IPA's for texture. Is this common in other areas as well?

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

The Veil does it on occasion, but usually just when doing a fruited, sour DIPA. I think The Answer may have done it a time or two as well. It is not common in Richmond.

the addition of lactose (sometimes labeled as milk sugar) has taken off in the past few years in the quest for the juiciest, softest, non-hoppiest IPA around, as hazy IPAs dominate(d) the market. Many are considerately labeled "milkshake IPA" to alert those with a lactose intolerance. They're not SUPER common compared to non-lactose hazy IPA's that are everywhere, but they're not uncommon.

You'll also see it lots in imperial or sweet stouts, and in sours (frequently labeled as "smoothie" style). Up close to DC, Aslin is known for using it pretty heavily- up to the user to decide if that's good or bad.

Some IPA examples:
The Veil - The Sentence, DDH Double Idaho 7 Daydream, Swimming Poolz
The Answer- I Don't LiKe LaCtOsE IPaS!
Strangeways- Magma
Aslin - Grovestand, Sorbet, Isolation Anniversary
Solace - Easy Peasy

The Cup is going nowhere Mikey!

Finished off the Forgotten Boardwalk offering I snagged and discussed further up the thread. The black chocolate salted stout was drinkable but not my favorite. Today I made another run and got the Last Brunch coffee porter from Forgotten Boardwalk and the vienna-style lager from Double Nickel Brewing Co, also a NJ brewery. I typically enjoy lagers, and the Double Nickel is no exception!

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Fightin Hokies Lager - a Munich Helles Style lager available at Hardywood on 4/17 and in stores 4/20.

Hardywood site

Sign up for the alumni reunion and you can get some as well

Cans mid Summer (there is a serious can shortage)

Draft Late Summer

Recovering scientist working in business consulting

I got a hold of a six pack last weekend and I've had a couple. It's pretty solid, maybe on the crisper side for the style making it an easier tailgate beer.
Wiff of canned corn/DMS on the nose (acceptable) that dissipates with a little time. Mild grainy, bready malt. Super low hops. Clean fermentation character.
Appearance is nearly perfect. Pale gold and brilliantly clear. White head recedes quickly.
Taste is low-medium grainy malt, slightly bready. No fermentation character, very low floal hop flavor and just enough bitterness (low) to balance. Finishes crisper than other Helles lager I've had, but it's welcomed in warm weather or if I'm having a sixer to myself.
Low-medium body, medium carbonation, and very easy drinking.
Overall a pretty crushable and tasty Helles. Maybe not as soft and a bit crispier than German examples, but this is on point for a tailgate beer. Perfect to crack open a bottle on an October morning/afternoon before you see the Hokies (hopefully) kick some ass.

"That move was slicker than a peeled onion in a bowl of snot." -Mike Burnop

I went the day after launch and it was pretty good.

Right now it is the top candidate for replacing Sierra Nevada Summerfest as my summer beer since that was discontinued.

Anyone have any recommendations for a good, hoppy American Pils or Lager that is distributed in the Richmond area throughout the warmer months?

I have Triple Crossing within walking distance but it is hard to always hit their releases.

If you like hoppy Pils, I can recommend Victory (PA) Prima Pils - plus a few Hokies work on the brewing and QA staff.

Boston Beer's Alpine Lager is also a nice summer beer.

Beale's Gold is also very tasty.

Thanks for the rec's.

Prima Pils is great, but I rarely see it on the shelf. I snap up Alpine Lager every time I see it, but again is rare.

I love Beales Gold and I pick up Founders Solid Gold when I see it too.

That reminds me I love DB's Mile 842. I'll have to find a source for that because it looks like they have it year round.

I'd echo Prima Pils. Firestone Walker's Pivo Pils is good too.

I'm a big fan of Captain Lawrence's Sixth Borough pilsner. Dry hopped with Mosaic and Crystal.

"That move was slicker than a peeled onion in a bowl of snot." -Mike Burnop

I'm a big fan of the Pivo Pils as well. For that matter anything from FW as well.

Unfortunately Pivo Pils is not being distributed anymore. Only can get it in mixed packs.

I haven't had Sixth Borough, I'll have to seek it out. Any leads on where to find it?

I've tried, but there don't seem to be any good resources for finding it. It popped up at some local bottle shops for me recently.
I will also give you a heads up - it isn't a traditional pilsner. It almost verges into IPL territory with the hopping. But, if you want a hoppy lager it does the trick.

"That move was slicker than a peeled onion in a bowl of snot." -Mike Burnop

That sounds like it is right up my alley.

Got my first taste last night. Was enjoyable but I need more taste testing before forming a final opinion.

I live in DC but my office is down in Alexandria. Used Hardywood's beer finder to locate the new Fightin' Hokies Lager at a Giant on my drive back home yesterday and was able to snag four 6-packs. Solid beer, I will definitely be purchasing throughout the summer to give to family and friends.

It was at the total wine in Ballston too. But that place is like beer Disney world so they have everything

Here lies It's a Stroman Jersey I Swear, surpassed in life by no one because he intercepted it.

Leesburg Wegman's was sold out. The vaguely remembered having some and don't know when they will get more.

It's an unwritten law that it's my lunch pail. I've issued the challenge. If someone outworks me, they can get it.
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Love the maroon cap on the Hardywood Fighting Hokie Lager, hope they come out with an orange one to match it. It'd be cool to make a tabletop out of the caps.

paging Brad

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Or perhaps there might be a random few other caps that show up as collector items?

Hello yes

Fall '19 into the winter and early spring I made an end table with all different bottle caps in the tabletop underneath a layer of epoxy. I'll see if I've got pics from the process and post to Imgur and link here sometime in the near future. It'd be awesome to make a tabletop of these caps, especially if there are a few different Hokie themed ones. Could make a sweet design.

Don't bogart it all...SHARE!

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The torch; be yours to hold it high.
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I always share.

I know it's trout, and not catfish, but sweetwater has a trout stream donation fund, and the head Brewer there is a Hokie Alumnus.

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