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Damn it. Beat me to it.

We put the K in Kwality

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We put the K in Kwality

If they draft Saquon tho... their offense could be decent. Best of luck to Tyrod regardless!

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I am literally sitting at the bar and it came across and I just starting yelling NOOOOOO Michael Scott style. May he win them a super bowl....

Now, Cole, when you shift the gear and that little needle on the tach goes into the red and reads 9000 RPMs, that's bad!

He's got to beat the Steelers now. He had to. It's his destiny.

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Watch them draft and start Darnold anyway.

Look on the bright side, if he starts and goes 8-8 they'll build a statue of him.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

What a gut punch...

I wouldn't crap on this....he'll have Landry and Gordon to throw to and they'll prob pick up Saquon Barkley #1...at least Cleveland is giving him weapons unlike Buffalo. I'm excited for him!

Yeah I have no idea what Cleveland's line situation is like, but this is without a doubt the best situation he's been in in terms of skill guys

Cleveland's line situation depends on whether or not Joe Thomas retires. He may stick around to be part of a more competent offense though

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Landry is monstrously overrated, he has to be schemed open, which the dolphins were constantly doing. He's not a deep threat so he won't be giving Tyrod the deep ball he needs.

Josh Gordon has that one covered

As long as he plays

Everyone is forgetting Coleman too.. he's a beast. The browns are suddenly very relevant. That defense.. with the new additions on offense.. saquan.. look out..

February..'96...the steak: ribeye, the whiskey:Lagavulin 16, the lady next to me: a bit**.....

Hooray!! We might actually win a game this year!!!

Class of '02. GO HOKIES!

Draft Barkley #1 and Edmunds at #4.

Tyrod ended the Bills playoff drought. Now he's gonna end the Browns playoff drought

First things first... he needs to end the win drought

The fact that they sent Kiser to Green Bay means that they're going to draft another quarterback, and if they're going to draft a quarterback, it's not going to be a later round development backup. They're going to use the first or fourth pick on a quarterback, and let him sit behind Tyrod for a year. I hope they do draft Barkley first and get a quarterback with the fourth, but we'll see.

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Sadly true. The true question is will the Browns finally be smart enough to get Barkley at #1 and take a QB @ #4? Darnold, Mayfield, etc. are all not worth a number 1 pick.

From the Bills to the Browns, Tyrod can't catch a break. Hopefully he can be a part of a turnaround for the Browns.

I want to be optimistic for Tyrod, but.........


No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

We don't love dem Hoos.

And apparently theyve traded for Damarious Randall as well??

Yep, for DeShone Kizer. Now I'm curious as to what the Pack will do with Hundley.

No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

We don't love dem Hoos.

The Browns getting anything but a late round draft pick for Kizer is an absolute coup.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Wouldn't be surprised to see us move on from Hundley. He's been in the system for 3 years and got his extended audition this year, but didn't show much in the way of development/potential.

Here's what I'm wondering though... Is Kizer really an upgrade over Hundley? Even though our offense was kinda bad with Hundley under center while Rodgers was out, I shudder to think about the new alternative.

No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

We don't love dem Hoos.

As he is today he's absolutely not an upgrade, but I have to think they see a higher upside in Kizer than what we had from Hundley after three years of development. Honestly not sure how much of the trade was about getting Kizer vs. unloading Randall and moving up picks. A backup QB certainly wasn't a need.

As the only Browns fan....I assume....on here I am over the moon excited....Go Dawg pound

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Go Browns!

Nope not the only one.

I'm sorry for your loss(es).

Add another long term sufferer, I am thrilled with these moves even though the Browns paid a premium to land players they would not have been able to pull as free agents. I am hoping for Barkley at no 1 and Allen/Darnold at 4.

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Just wondering what you see in Allen/Darnold that has you excited about taking either #4? IMO both QB's are huge risks, neither tore it up at the college level, Tyrod has proven he can win in the league. If I were a browns fan I would want to build other pieces, ol/wr etc, and get a better bang for my buck on top picks. Draft a qb in rounds 2 or 3 if you want a backup for Tyrod.

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I'm a Tyrod fan just as much as the next guy... but in what way has he proven to be *consistently* reliable as an NFL QB? Winning a few games and then proving that you "can win in the league" as you put it, are not the same thing. His playoff game performance was dreadful. And while I don't want to take anything away from Taylor or the Bills playoff appearance, it simply would not have happened if the AFC wasn't a dumpster fire last year... Let the downvoting begin but I cannot help but speak that truth...

I don't downvote because I believe in the 1st Amendment, but the Bills Roster is below average so the fact he is 2 games above 500 as a starter is very impressive. I have not looked this year, but year 1 he was 7th in QBR, and PFF had him a top 10 QB. Year 2 he was I think 12th in QBR (top 6 w/ Watkins in Lineup). He needs weapons (like most QBs). But the Bills were setting him up to fail, they wanted to draft early and still be able to sell that they "trying" to win.


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The truth none of us really like to admit is that Tyrod really hasn't proven himself yet, and he is at best, an average NFL quarterback. Yeah the Bills are awful, but other quarterbacks like Andrew Luck or Aaron Rodgers have proven that good quarterback play can make an otherwise bad team look good.

That said an "average" quarterback is still a hot commodity, and I think Tyrod can be a smart hire for the right team, especially in a league where smart budgeting goes a long way. Quite bluntly I think he's much much more valuable than his salary will suggest, which can allow a smart team to successfully build some high profile (read: $$$) players around him.

Well, we're going to see your theory tested by the Cleveland Browns.

Maybe. We'll see who the Browns spend their draft picks on. They can go the high risk high reward approach which would go all in on Tyrod and pick up skill players with their early drafts, or they can hedge their bets with a high profile rookie quarterback. Even if Tyrod wins the job, in the latter scenario that's an expensive playmaker who isn't starting.

Tyrod's deal voids after this year. It's likely the bills were going to cut him anyway. From that angle a third rounder is a steep price to pay. I highly doubt that Tyrod is on the Browns beyond this season, unless we see them restructure his contract to lower his cap hit this year and guarantee him more money over more years and then take two non QBs at 1 and 4. The best thing for the Browns franchise is to hit on a cost-controlled QB at the top of this draft.

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"average" NFL QB = top 16-20 people on Earth at the position.

Agreed. An "average" NFL QB position is now a $10M/year position. Glennon (NCst) was thought to be an "average" NFL QB and was thrown a pile of money in the offseason last year. I'm interested to see what Tyrod can do with a complete cast around him (I'm talking about the WRs NOT the Browns roster).

He took a pay cut last year and had all of his weapons unceremoniously shipped out of town and was playing with a WR corps of "just guys" and still had the Bills winning games. He'll have veteran guys like Gordon (SPEED and ball skills), Coleman (young, talented, WR), and Landry now (short area quickness with make you miss moves for YAC.)

Not unlike when he was at VT, the stat line might not always be amazing but he is a QB that will always keep you in games. He's not going to put up Brees type numbers but one of his best traits as a pro is that he rarely turns the ball over. That is HUGE at that position in the NFL.

Going rate for league-average NFL QB is much more than $10m/year. Glennon was paid high for the "replacement-level starter" he is. Andy Dalton is about league average and he makes ~$16m annually.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

His playoff game performance was dreadful.

Because the Bills offensive line was more porous than a piece of Swiss cheese that game...don't fault Tyrod for having 2 seconds to throw. That Jags front is nasty.

"It's a miracle in Blacksburg, TYROD DID IT MIKEY, TYROD DID IT!"

Yeah as a Jags fan who wanted Tyrod, it's annoying seeing posts where they compare Bortles vs Tyrod in that game as if that's possible. Bortles was playing against a weaker D and with a better line.

He was also concussed I thought after Calais hit him the first time in the first half. CC is a monster.

He was hit multiple times questionably late and it comes down to the Bills take the persona of their little leprechaun more Mary than Bill grad coach. When Gronk slammed down on their DB did anyone even have the stones to look sideways at Gronk? No. No team I played on worth a crap would have taken that sh**. So what if Gronk beats you down, at least you have your self respect and your teammate knows your his brother. When you don't at least come at Gronk, then he makes the whole team his bitch.

TT was in concussion protocol at least 3 times last season. Good riddance to the Bills. Coach is a pansy. Owner a rich douchebag who hired the GM friend of the coach after the coach was hired. Hope they find themselves their next EJ Manuel in the draft.

Neither is as polished as Andrew Luck coming out of school, but it Allen, he has the strong arm and can "make all the throws" needed to be successful in the NFL he just doesn't quite have the game awareness or experience against top talent that you would like to see (see Flacco, Joe from Delaware). With Darnold the kid has shown he can put the ball on the money and lead a team (really the Rose Bowl against Penn St is why he is being drafting so high) but had a sophomore slump which shows he will also need some time to learn. Both will need a year or more to learn to play NFL QB, but I think both have what it takes to be successful, just not right away, which is why the Browns will still draft a QB in the top 5 and start Tyrod Game 1 of the 2018 season and possibly the 2019 season.

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Browns fan here (as of Friday)

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

I like the moves the Browns are making, but if they draft a major QB prospect, Tyrod will never get a fair shot unless they immediately start winning under him, because the fanbase will ache for their rookie savior as soon as Tyrod has a less than stellar game. It's pretty much impossible to be successful in this situation unless they make it a point that Tyrod is their guy. I'll be watching their draft closely.

They are the Browns, they will screw it all up somehow.

At this point if they don't take Saquon first, their new GM should be fired immediately. That kid will be better than any of the QB prospects by a large margin in my opinion.

Their Oline situation is actually not bad, and if Thomas comes back another year. The WR corp is now respectable, Gordon and Landry are a pretty legit combo.

They may draft a QB, but I bet Tyrod starts immediately.

He'll get a better shot than he was going to get in Buffalo this year.

Note: Jarvis Landry after his reported trade to Browns: 'S--- about to get SERIOUS'

I am so excited. I think the Browns are going to be good next year. Before you laugh let me make the case.

-Last year, Cleveland's defense was 12th in yards per play allowed. The run D was 2nd in yards per rush allowed.
-Their rush offense was 3rd in yards per rush.
-Cleveland had 2 big issues last season: atrocious QB play and an astronomical -28 turnover margin. Well, they just acquired a QB who's all-time great at not turning the ball over.
-Tyrod's going to be surrounded by credible offensive minds like Hue Jackson and Todd Haley, and a plethora of weapons (Jarvis Landry, Corey Coleman, Josh Gordon, David Njoku). Unlike last season when he was stuck with a terrible offensive staff and the worst receiving corps in the league, Tyrod has a fighting chance.

They're going to get the best version of Tyrod. Not to mention the return of Joe Thomas, $100M in cap space, two top 5 draft picks (Chubb? Fitzpatrick? Barkley?), etc. If Cleveland gets Tyrod playing at 2015 level, the Browns are a real threat to do damage next season.

That's interesting about the turnover margin, Tyrod has always been careful with the football.


I hope he has a good year otherwise that place is known for ending careers....best of Luck TT

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Browns have now traded kizer. And then there is this...

Cleveland makin' some moves, baby!

Buffalo didn't deserve Tyrod.

I see it as an improvement for Tyrod. Just think if he succeeds there. It would be nothing short of awesome.

Is that really Scheftie's twitter account?

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No. The real Schefter has a verified account (in the original post).

I think this is a better move buffalo is a dumpster fire and now atleast cleaveland are bringing in some help for him and if they get Barkley it would be super helpful he needs a good RB to thrive this plus getting Landry I think the browns are going somewhere now

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Now those errant Tyrod jerseys in the north endzone wont stand out as much. Brown and orange compared to blue and white of the Bills.

Don't forget the Browns also have Njoku as well they've got weapons just need the operator

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Wow. First reaction is sheer horror, but after seeing all the other trades, the defensive stats mentioned above coupled with Tyrod's low turnover rate, and if they use their 1 and 4 picks as we'd hope, it sure looks like the browns might actually be decent next year.

And well, everybody here is a Tyrod fan, so let's continue to root for him. Go Browns? (that sounds so weird....)

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I need to buy a buffalo bills jersey now so I can burn it in a fire pit...Man this just ruined my Friday Night.

Go Hokies!

Besides the Redskins there isn't a worse team for a player in a Tyrods position to be traded to or work for. Throw in the fact you have to live in Cleveland part of the year which is only a fraction better than living in Buffalo and I feel bad for him.

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Equal parts excited and terrified for Tyrod. The Browns are looking like geniuses with some of these trades, but I just can't get myself to believe.

Their fourth trade looks horrible to me. They traded away a DT and a 5th round pick this year for a 3rd round pick next year????

They are switching from a 3-4 to a 4-3. Also, maybe they are going after Sheldon Richardson, Dontari Poe, or Star Lotulelei

Still giving up a player and a pick this year for a 3rd round pick NEXT year?

Throw N. Suh into that mix, Danny Shelton probably wasn't part of their long term plans. Free up some cap space, and improve through Free Agency

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

I might be in the minority here but I don't think this is a bad move for TT.

Cleveland will have some weapons and Buffalo always seemed like they didn't appreciate Tyrod. If he can do well, he'll be a hero.

Tyrod did it Mikey, Tyrod did it!!

I agree. . I think he's going to be in a great position, with all those weapons (and Barkley). If he wins a few games early, even if they do draft a quarterback fourth, he's going to be a hero to Cleveland.

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Buffalo has really screwed him over and over

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To be the first team to go from 0-16 to playoff in the next season.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

Well, as a Redskins fan I wish we could make moves like this.

Is it basketball season yet?

Instead we continuously and incompetently screw over Cousins, and now where are we 🙄

I think one of our problems is that we always try to make moves like this.

Anyone think Tyrod is a draft day asset now? If the Browns want their "franchise draftee" I would think that would be Josh Allen and Saquon with/without Tyrod. Tyrod could be a huge tradable asset for the browns to trade to a desperate team that needs a qb and underperformed in Free Agency (Jets, Broncos, Vikings, Dolphins, Cardinals, Giants, and the, uh, Bills)

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As a Vikings fan, I will gladly take Tyrod, I would much rather have Tyrod than Cousins.

YES! I can go back to hating the Bills without feeling conflicted!

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Slowly....as it occurs to me.....that I'll have to root for the Browns next year.......

1. Tyrod is worth more to the Bills than a 3rd round pick. But that's good, enjoy having Pe(in)terman throw a world record for INTs by a pro QB in a season.

2. At first I was terrified for T-Mobile, but the more I think about it, this isn't too bad by the looks of it. People have already mentioned the weapons they've traded for, and if you add in Saquan and whoever they take 4th (EDMUNDS!!!) this could be a dangerous team on paper.

3. I lowkey just became a Browns fan.

"It's a miracle in Blacksburg, TYROD DID IT MIKEY, TYROD DID IT!"

I have been a closeted Saints and Browns fan since I was young and I picked the two last place teams to root for. The Saints finally got themselves together and won it. It was a day of much gloating over the rest of my family.

Nowadays I barely follow the NFL due to time issues but if Tyrod somehow manages to bribg the Browns to the promise land I will be throwing that in the face of my two brothers to the end of my days.

All that being said, damn, that sucks for Tyrod. Man can't catch a break.

I'm glad you picked TKP to come out of the closet. We're here for you and won't judge you.

Cleveland has more fans than any other team that's never been in a Superbowl.

If you ever go to a party and say you're from Cleveland, there will be at least three other people from Ohio who show up to discuss which suburb you're from, and someone from somewhere else in Ohio or has relatives from there.

Never underestimate the number of people with connections to Ohio, and most of them are Cleveland fans.

I bet he could start for the Cavs too

Interesting. According to some guy on the Twitter, Tyrod doesn't get his bonus because it was tired to being on the Bills' roster. (Don't know how to embed tweets, sorry.)


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RIP Tyrod. /s

Also, I hope the Bills never sniff the playoffs again. Trash organization and fanbase.

Fuck it. I'm a Browns fan now.

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I love this for Tyrod. He's made his money now... he will have a lot of young talent around him. Good offensive minds in the coaching staff. Time for him to be the guy and make big plays. Win a couple games, he's golden.

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Guys I was devastated after reading this notification initially when I saw it, and felt terrible for Tyrod, but as others have said this is actually a great situation for TT. This is a win-win in my opinion. Let's say Tyrod comes in & plays terrible & the browns suck, I mean oh well everyone already knows the browns are the laughing stock of the league did we honestly expect any different?

BUT, if Tyrod comes in & turns the franchise around, starts facilitating to these young weapons, uses his legs to give the offense another dimension & holds onto the ball well to allow their (surprisingly) stellar defense to control games. Who knows? We could see Cleveland only manage to win 4 games (still an improvement), or maybe that young talent comes together & pulls off 8 or 9 wins & makes the playoffs. Not only would Tyrod have ended 2 playoff droughts in the past 2 seasons for 2 separate franchises, but he instantly becomes a legend in Cleveland sports history and is remembered as the QB that came in to turn the Browns around. Either way, he's coming in with nothing to lose & everything to gain.

Browns did more for Tyrod today than the Bills did in 3 years

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Both Arizona and Denver were interested but Cleveland with a 3rd pick outbid them? How low of a value do these teams place on TT?

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This has to be the first time in years Cleveland has outbid somebody

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I have to think that all teams view Tyrod as a temporary starter who is a placeholder until a younger QB can come in

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

If it is not a sign and trade you are getting Tyrod for a year at a cut rate. It is unclear how much the trade teams are picking up of the cap, salary, and bonus provisions. If they are picking up $18M cap, its not quite as much of a sale as the media is touting it. Sounds like its more like a $12M cap hit because of the bonus issue, a pretty good deal and a pretty decent opportunity to sniff or bridge for a year.

Someone in the twitterverse alluded to Tyrod not getting a roster bonus because it was tied to being on the Bills roster, not an NFL roster. In other words, they offered him as a $10M a year starter because of this screw up of his agent. The Bills escaped having to pay the $6M and got a third round pick for auctioning him off at a cut rate price. Otherwise they probably would have just cut him. Sucks for TT, because after being cut he could have negotiated his deal with a system / team that was interested in him long term. Who knows maybe that is the Browns.

And hopefully a new agent. If the roster bonus is related to being on the Bills roster only with the shenanigans they knew the Bills were playing...

don't think that is correct.

Over the Cap has Tyrod with the same deal with Cleveland as with Buffalo. He is due a $6M roster bonus on the 16th.

Cleveland would have a $16M cap hit and Buffalo still has $7.6M in dead money

I have hated the brown since Lou Groza was their kicker.

Groza about a minute in.

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

With all that cap room I hope the Browns sign Muhammad Wilkerson and Richard Sherman!

Before this move and the Landry move the Browns would have had to pay a premium to attach any free agents but now a free agent might see them as move than a Dumpster Fire and they may be able to attach free agents

Fans often tend to forget that moving from league-worst to league-average at a specific position can have the same affect as moving from league-average to league-best. It's a huge move for the Browns.

I said after the Landry move was reported that the Browns were a competent QB and some pieces in the secondary away from a 7 win team. In the next 90 minutes the Tyrod and Randall news dropped.

The crazy thing? The Browns still have 5 picks in the first 2 rounds, including four of the top 36. That's four expected day-one contributors, or three plus a QB to sit behind Tyrod for a year. The browns should take Saquon Barkley #1. If they want to take a QB at 4, then they can, or if they want to take best player available (Chubb? Fitzpatrick? James?) then they can. If some team wants to trade up to 4 to get their guy, then the Browns can do that too.

Plus they have $100m in cap room. Defensive line? Offensive line? Shutdown corner? All three?

Browns got excoriated for trading the Deshaun Watson pick to the Texans, but getting #4 overall this year has proven to be a boon. Same as the second (#36) rounder they got in the Osweiler deal. Shrewd asset-accumulation by Sashi Brown, and now we are seeing John Dorsey cashing in.

My pre-draft hot take is that the Browns will win 7+ games this year. Let's talk again post-draft because I could see them finishing ahead of Baltimore and Cincinnati in the AFC north and being "In The Hunt" for a wild card spot if things break right for them.

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The question is will the Browns actually cash in it or do the normal Browns thing and screw it all up.
#1 Barkley
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I so wish the Redskins would have made this move.

Tyrod came at a much cheaper price than Alex Smith. We could have really spent some money on OL and skill players. But alas, all we do is make dumb moves by overpaying hyped up veterans who never actually earn their money in the burgundy and gold. #firedanielsnyder

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Yeah, as a fellow Washington fan even if they had a good team I'd root against them because I don't want to see Snyder get handed the Lombardi Trophy. Worst. Owner. Ever.

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"The Browns have never been to the super bowl"? I take the browns to the super bowl every morning...typically after my morning coffee.

**I'll see myself out**

Why isn't this comment plaid (or brown)??

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I was closer to a down vote than up vote in my mind after reading it. So it got no vote.

Because you're the only one here with a shit fetish

Hey, whoa, wait a tick. For all you know, I could just be a) screwing/joking around or b) pretending.

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read your own comment history. You talk about poop and shit A LOT, abnormally so.

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I absolutely will not deny that or the fact that I find it hilariously amusing to a sophomoric degree. But just because I laugh & joke about it, doesn't mean that (pun warning) I'm literally, actually and factually into that shit.

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It suggests you might be

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I know, but the fact of the matter is I got most of the associated expressions off from urban dictionary. And even though I find said expressions hilarious, I haven't taken part in them. Also, I've never even watched 2 girls + 1 cup (I heard about people throwing up & I hate that). I've only watched reaction vids on YouTube.

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This subthread is on a roll right now hahahahaha

Now, Cole, when you shift the gear and that little needle on the tach goes into the red and reads 9000 RPMs, that's bad!

What did I just read...

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

Want me to send you link?

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Lmao, naw I'll pass. Think I'll just stick to the reaction vids on Youtube. I get a kick outta those (particularly the reaction from the Marines and the muppets).

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Because it is the same lame joke that has been used since the Browns returned in 1999. yawn

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Are you talking about releasing a blind otter?

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Hopefully Hue stays true to his word........

Damn fuck everybody else tyrod gonna take em to the promise land

I feed off of nightmares

The Browns will roll into week 11 5-4 in the wildcard hunt and they'll pull Tyrod for Darnold because the fans think Tyrod isn't throwing enough deep balls.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

I really hope that means the browns are going to do the smart thing and take Barkley #1, and trade number 4 for picks 12 and 22.

Not a chance. They're still going to take the quarterback of the future. And they signed Hyde so they won't be tempted by Barkley at 1.

QB at 1
Maybe trade out at 4, but probably take Fizz or Barkley if available.

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I don't think that signing Hyde necessarily precludes you from taking Barkley, but maybe the Browns so see it that way. Just last year the Vikings signed Latavius Murray and then traded up in the first to take Dalvin Cook.

I don't think the Browns would trade out of four, but it's probably on the table if there's a good offer. If they take Barkley at 1 and trade out of 4 for Buffalo's 12 and 21, that's a slight win for the Browns in terms of trade value and would probably signal they want to take Lamar Jackson

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

If Chubb is still on the board at 4, I take him, otherwise I trade for the 12 and 21. You have a bridge QB that isn't bad and will win games. You can afford to take somebody later, none of the QB's in this draft have screamed franchise to me. Somebody will still be available at 12 or 21. The Oklahoma State QB might not be a bad option either.

And in all honesty, depending what Giants and Colts do at 3 and 4, there could be a SIGNIFICANT number of teams trying to trade up to 4 to get Their Guy. Say Browns take a QB, Giants take Barkley, Colts take Chubb.... The Broncos and Jets both need a QB Of The Future and they are sitting immediately afterwards at 5 and 6. Chances are one of those would trade up just to block the other one from trading ahead of them and maybe taking their guy.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I think any draft that has the Browns taking a QB at #1 is a fail.

The problem is that, in the past two drafts, they have not only passed on Carson Wentz and Deshaun Watson, they have traded down with those two players still available. The fanbase will not be kind if that happens a third time. They are going to have to at least *try* to get a franchise QB at the one or the four, at least to show their fanbase that they're trying to build for the future. I don't think anybody thinks that Tyrod Taylor is the QB of the future, and they have to do something to get one.

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How about [QB of choice] at one, and trading 1st (4), 2nd (35), and 5th (159) and a throw-in WR for Odell Beckham, Jr.? They got the cap space to sign him to a long-term deal when the time comes, and the Giants could really use the draft capital.

Should the Giants Talk About Trading OBJ?

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

Did you hear about OBJ smoking a Blunt while a girl was doing lines in bed with him in Europe? He is going to be subject to some random drug testing this year.

I would rather them trade #1 or #4 for Bell and give him the contract with incentives for great performance.

I think I'd be okay with that, even speaking as a Giants fan. The Giants are giving up a generational talent at WR and it would definitely hurt them. But Odell wants to be highest paid WR in league history (and yeah, he should probably expect that kind of deal), and the off the field, head case stuff has to be legitimately concerning if you're running the franchise.

Having said that, the Browns already have an off the field issues guy in Josh Gordon and do they really need another one? I'm not sure either team likes that price for that situation.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

This is not all that far fetched. There have been reports that the Browns have some interest in Baker Mayfield (despite the Maziel fiasco) and I bet he will still be on the board at 12.

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Only after they trade away Josh Gordon and Jarvis Landry while telling everyone they want to win this year

And I am sure Tyrod was very disappointed when he heard that Joe was retiring.

So, whoever will be taking snaps in Buffalo this year might have one less offensive weapon, at least for some portion of the season....also, don't mess with bath salts kiddos.

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Clicked dat link. Didn't find no video.

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Video has appropriate blurriness to be SFW

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while it may be SFW, no amount of blurry man-ass is little enough to be SFA07

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Rumors buzzing around the twitter that Odell Beckham Jr. could possibly be headed to Cleveland.

Oh, please let this happen for Tyrod, dear little 8lbs. infant Jesus!

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The Tyrod era might come to an abrupt halt after last nights performance from Mayfield. Coach says he won't name a starter yet, so that's encouraging, but the writing is on the wall. Jets have a pretty good defense and the 6 came in an balled out. Feel terrible for Taylor. Sad day for sure.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

There's really no reason for the Browns to start Tyrod right now. If I were in their shoes, I'd throw Mayfield into the fire again next week, too.

If you're reading the above post and thinking, "is this guy serious?!?," you can safely assume I'm not.

Unfortunately for Tyrod, if he is named starter once he recovers from his concussion, Cleveland fans will likely march on the stadium with pitchforks and torches

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Based on the performance of the two last night, I wouldn't blame them. I love Tyrod and hate Mayfield, but even I can't say that Tyrod should start over Mayfield after last night.

Once thing I noticed, the O-line really stepped up their game once Mayfield came in.

It seemed like the Jets stopped bringing the heat on every play with Mayfield in as well.

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Yea what the fuck was that about

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

I didn't watch the whole game, so I don't have a full picture here. But there were definitely times when the Jets brought a lot of pressure and Mayfield just found the open guy before they could touch him. Hate to say it, but Mayfield looked like the better QB last night.

"That move was slicker than a peeled onion in a bowl of snot." -Mike Burnop

I'm not saying they didn't bring pressure, but with Tyrod it was like someone would get through untouched every damn play

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I think you were seeing that it took more time for Tyrod to make his decisions and get the ball out of his hand, also, there were tighter window that Mayfield was completing passes through, than Tyrod wouldn't even throw into. Tyrod is definitely my favorite Hokie ever, but Mayfield sees the field better, and is quicker making good decisions, which gives the defensive line less time, and keeps them honest.

I think he saw exactly what I saw, which was 3-4 plays where there was a completely unblocked edge defender coming downhill on Tyrod early in the game. It happened multiple times. One time the LT just completely ignored the DE as he ran around him completely unimpeded.

And that just stopped when Mayfield was put in the game?

It actually did for the most part. On Baker's first drive they rushed 3, which is both pretty standard against rookie QB's and for 2 minute defense. In the second half, the Jets sat back in coverage far more often and didn't show nearly as many looks with a stacked box and high pressure blitz packages. They probably should have but they didn't. That said, the Browns didn't pass protect particularly well for Baker, but there were less plays with a completely free rusher. It's very likely the Browns made some protection adjustments as well after the first few drives. Baker also coughed up the ball twice in big moments and didn't pay for it in either situation through sheer luck. Once because his OL picked up the fumble and on the 2pt conversion because there were offsetting penalties. If Tyrod had made either of those errors that place would have erupted into Baker chants.

All that to say, there was a distinct difference in the play calling when Baker came in, it was much looser, more designed quick hitting passes, and more over the middle stuff. Tyrod was operating under a much more conservative playbook. As I said in another comment, the difference in the playbooks echoes how Clemson is utilizing Kelly Bryant and Trevor Lawrence. They are making life as easy as possible for TL and having KB run their more run-oriented, conservative and ball control style offense. It extremely unfair to the veteran QB in both situations. Still, I think Baker probably has a higher ceiling than Tyrod, and there is nothing wrong with the Browns going to him, but context is important.

Am I to understand you're accusing the Jets of purposely playing weaker defense when Mayfield came in, and the Browns intentionally called ineffective offensive plays when Tyrod was in to force their hand into playing Mayfield, despite the fact they are the ones who actually control who plays?

Thats a lot of conspiracy theories to be tossing around

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I agree with you, Tyrod holds the ball too damn long- the jets knew that baker was going to get the ball out of his hands faster. That is why they didn't rush as many. On the play that Tyrod was hurt, there was a wide open crossing pattern that anyone should have hit, they could have gotten a first down, or at least a field goal.

I'm not tossing around any conspiracy theories whatsoever. You can go back and watch the game again if you like. Most of Tyrod's plays were slower developing deeper routes, zero to none designed quick hitters. And the Jets defense was absolutely playing less aggressively in the second half, which as I said, is common practice against rookie QB's for many teams. You play more coverage and try to get them out of rhythm and kill their adrenaline high.

Secondly, playcalling often changes throughout a game, the first drive or first 10-15 plays are often scripted and they stick to the script for the most part. It's not totally odd that they change the way they were calling plays, some of it is just simple, every game adjustments based on what the defense is showing them. The timing lined up favorably for Baker in this case.

Don't put words in my mouth, I'm not trying to make an[y] conspiracy theories, everything I said is observable on film.

I 100% agree with both of Chris's previous posts. The film doesn't lie, and the Jets backed off on the Qb pressure significantly once Tyrod left the game plus the playcalling from the Browns were almost exclusively quick hit passes.

The Jets were also on record saying they were gassed in the second half, which doesn't include the Mayfield fumble at end of first half and the should have been pick in the endzone. I agree that Mayfield made quicker reads and better throws last night, but it was much helped by better playcalling by the Browns (also had to do with them playing from behind which made them throw more) and a tired Jets defense.

Do I think they would have made the comeback if Mayfield never came in? Maybe not, but I think Tyrod would have brought them back in a similar fashion, considering they scored over 80% of their points in the second half so far and he would have then been playing against a tired Jets defense as well.

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Hey, that Private tag is pretty neat. Now I wonder what you said.

Hopefully he will change it to [public] so we all can know

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The book is out there on Tyrod. Blitz him with a LB playing spy, and he struggles. Mayfield showed an ability in college and preseason that he can stand tall when the pressure comes and find the open man. So yeah, I don't blame the Jets for backing off a bit.

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I agree.

The Browns also got away from JV high school playcalling when Baker came in!

"Take care of the little things and the big things will come."

Playcalling for Mayfield was immensely better. It is very similar to what Clemson is doing with Kelly Bryant and Trevor Lawrence at the moment.

Yeah, Mayfield is just a better QB than Tyrod. Probably has been almost his whole career. We are talking about the number overall pick here with one of the best statistical college careers ever. Tyrod was always going to be supplanted by Baker eventually this season. Honestly, Mayfield probably could have just started at the beginning of this season and been better.

I love Tyrod. Love him love him love him. One of my favorite hokies. But he is a mediocre NFL QB. No shame, that;s still an accomplishment.

Looks like he's destined for back up duty the rest of his career... Which ain't a bad gig if he can accept that's where he is now career wise

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Hold a clipboard, how much? $1M? Never have to get hit? Sure. where do i sign?

Daniel Tosh had this one right. I'll take backup QB all day.

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Tyrod got himself a SB ring and a few mil by doing that. Not a bad job.

That being said, he really did get taken advantage of by Buffalo the last couple years. Their actions cost him tens of millions while making the team worse.

"I regret nothing. The end." - Ron Swanson

Ever since the Ravens cut him loose, Tyrod's timing has been terrible. Rex Ryan was on his way out, and Cleveland drafted a Heisman winner. Would love to see the Panthers get him in a trade. He'd be a great backup for Cam.

Leonard. Duh.

Use the bench time to learn the nuances of good coaching (well not in Cleveland) and transition that into a future long term gig where he can still be ultra competitive? Return to Blacksburg?! Hes a smart guy but seems to lack a certain moxie when it comes to being a starting NFL QB.

Just ask Don Strock. Golf and a perpetual tan go with that clipboard, as do intact knees and maybe even a functioning brain in his dotage to enjoy the money.

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Unblocked rusher, less than 2 seconds to get rid of ball. Tyrod didn't play great at all but people ignoring this for some reason.

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That was the first half, not just one play as well.