Cassell Comes Alive Behind 64-63 Virginia Tech Upset of Duke

The Hokies earned a marquee win over the Blue Devils on Big Monday.

[Mark Umansky]

Loud. Unhinged. Deafening.

All words I've heard to describe Cassell Coliseum.

Tonight though, it shook. The Hokies knocked off No. 5 Duke, 64-63 and it registered on the local seismograph.

"I don't know why, there was something in my spirit when they called their second timeout," noted Buzz Williams. "Normally from where I stand, [the far] balcony is empty. I looked up there as I was drinking the water and was I like 'that's full.' I never look over my right shoulder. Full. I looked over [my left shoulder]. Full."

Tonight, 9,275 fans watched the Hokies punch their ticket to the Big Dance. Give or take a few, 9,100 of them were Hokie faithful.

"In the three times we've played Duke since I've been here in Blacksburg, with each passing game, there's less and less of a percentage of Duke fans in attendance," said Williams. "Which speaks to the fact that there has been a groundswell of support of our group and how we're trying to do it."

There's no debating it. On a night where Virginia Tech struggled all night to get over the proverbial hump (Tech led for a total of 1:00), the Hokie faithful spurred them on.

"It's just amazing," said Chris Clarke. "People don't understand how loud it gets in Cassell. I think it's one of the loudest gyms in the nation."

"I try to stay engaged in the game. Try not to show emotion. Try to stay locked in. At times, I've come out of character because the crowd is so hyped," added Justin Bibbs.

"That was probably one of the best crowds we've had since I've been here," noted Kerry Blackshear Jr. "Their energy when we go on a run, we love it."

Everybody in the stands knew the stakes. Tech was staring an 0-3 finish to the regular season dead in the eyes. An uneven end to a season that otherwise had turned into a solid campaign. And a shaky Hokies' finish never mixes well with the selection committee.

You could feel it. The anxious energy as Duke built a 15-point lead with 9 minutes remaining in the first half. The murmurs grew louder and the nervous shifting increased.

With Justin Robinson nursing a bum ankle, the Hokies leaned on true-freshman Nickeil Alexander-Walker. A personal 7-0 run by the youngster brought the crowd to its feet. Add in Justin Bibbs' quick four points, and all of a sudden Tech cut the deficit to 25-29. Cassell had a game again.

But still, no Hokies lead. Halftime came, Duke up 33-27, and the Blue Devils methodically pulled away to begin the second frame. A three-point lead became nine. But again, the crowd persisted. They stood. They yelled. They manufactured a Hokie run. One-point game.

But there went the Blue Devils again. With a combination of size inside and three-point shooting outside, Duke opened up yet another nine-point lead, 58-49, this time with 7:02 left. Duke turned the dial in Cassell from bumpin' to static. Buzzketball dug themselves too big a hole in the first half, and Duke was just too good. It happened again.

Game over, right?

Wrong.

In the paint, at the line, and from beyond the arc Tech scrapped its way back within four, 56-60. Then fresh out of a Duke timeout with only 3:20 remaining, Williams waved his arms imploring the crowd to get louder. They obliged. A pair of free throws from Robinson. A dunk by Clarke, then a subsequent steal and layup. Tech had a new hope.

But still, the lead was out of reach. Trailing by one with 23.4 on the clock, Williams turned to his team and said one thing.

"We're going to win the game. Just be patient."

Patience paid off. Bibbs passed up a jumper. Alexander-Walker pumpfaked instead of shooting a contested three. Clarke crashed the boards on the back-side. Easy layup.

And then, the loudest roar I've ever heard in Cassell Coliseum. The sound of "Virginia Tech" in ink on a bracket.

Comments

Quit Cussin!

There were some bullshit calls, 'scuse my French.

Still, it was really great that the crowd listened to Buzz. The crowd had made their statement, but it was time to stop.

There were, for sure....but overall, I think last night, we were actually the beneficiaries of the officiating

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

I'm sure the answer to this is buried somewhere in the FAM thread, but I'm still curious as to why exactly he called them out last night? Was it cussing besides the standard "BULLLLL-SHIT" chant after a bad call? Was it louder? Was it going on for too long after the foul was called? Was it the fact that things were getting thrown on the floor and this was just a good time to address both? I like that he did it, but the timing seems strange considering this has been going on as long as I can remember...

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

I kinda felt like maybe it was just something to throw off Allen at the stripe. Something out of the ordinary, that got him out of his routine...and he did miss the next free throw (first miss in like 25 attempts)

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

What I've gathered from the reddit detectives is that someone threw a small fake megaphone or something onto the court and it hit a ref and the ref went and complained to buzz and so buzz went to tell them to stop throwing shit but they were all still chanting bullshit so he told them to stop cussing so that he could get a word in about throwing stuff onto the court.

Megaphone didn't hit a ref but went onto the court. Refs were probably going to issue the fans a warning but Buzz beat them to it #quitcussin

Thanks all, good work.

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

I think we were going to be hit with a technical. Ref came to Buzz and said something as he was turning the megaphone over and over in his hand. Buzz responded immediately and went and got the Mike.

I have to say, it was nothing short of BRILLIANT.

VT didn't get a technical, the chanting and throwing stopped, and Allen missed his shot.

The bullshit chant was a reflection of the call, and that call sure seemed like bullshit to me.

Probably won us the game. /s, but not /s.

he should have gone full Billy Tubbs on them

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

I'm too old, or too much of a prude, or whatever. I don't like the bad language. Shows a lack of class, maturity, whatever.

I remember years ago, a lot of years ago, when I was a lot younger, Dean Smith did the same thing. Told the students to stop cursing. Pretty sure it was the BS chant then too. He said, 'We don't do that at Carolina'. I thought it was a class act. Use some imagination if you want to get on the refs.

Last night, there were a lot of recruits there. Maybe they saw a coach who demands excellence from his players and from the students. Maybe, like Landers Nolley, they thought, 'This is a man I want to play for'. And maybe their parents were watching. Maybe those parents thought the same thing.

Buzz is class! (message to Whit, 'Keep Buzz at all costs').

Unless the recruit is like me, and likes to cry out, "Splish Splash Bitches!" every time he jacks up a three.

Leonard. Duh.

"What are you going to do, stab me? - Quote from Man Stabbed

Kobe!

Have you been to an AAU game? Trust me "BS" is tap water compared to what comes out of a Parents' mouth... You can excuse a 18-21 year old.

Tweedy can run like a dadgum antelope or whatever. I like to use scalded dog. Do antelopes lumber? Cheetah, OK. He runs like a cheetah. He's fast. - Bud Foster

On the missed free throw, yes but the officials had let that fighting for the ball go all night.

(i.e. CC driving to the lane with 26 seconds to go and someone reaches across @ the foul line to impede his momentum to the hoop)

Yeah, that interference was a great example of some of the bad no calls that benefited Duke.

I just blinked audibly. Those were some pretty bad refs in my recollection. Duke the benefit of a lot of shaky calls.

I actually think refs letting the guys play benefits the VT team.

The Louisville game was an ebb and flow determined by the officiating:

  • VT gets out to a lead as the refs call 2 VT fouls to 7 VT fouls;
  • Louisville cuts the lead as the refs call 10 VT fouls to 2 Louisville fouls;
  • I think the fouls were pretty even after that.

The ND (& maybe BC) game was similar but VT held on at the end.
The refs did not cost VT the Louisville game, they did greatly impact the flow of the game.

Appropriate that one of the game officials has the last name Cassell

Agreed, but it wasn't just the nature of the call. It was who benefited from it (No. 3 on Duke). Check today's sports headlines. He's accused of dirty play (again!)

In Bud we trust

That was the most fun VT basketball game I think I've ever watched.

Though the UVa game was also pretty fun.

I've mentioned this before, but I sure have enjoyed VT basketball this season.

This season is making me lose my mind

I feed off of nightmares

We are a great team that beats the teams above us in the ACC, and lose to the teams below us...it seems.
I pray for this kind of effort and mentality for the rest of the season and tournament.

GO HOKIES!

lose to the teams below us

We have lost to 3 teams lower than us in the standings as of 2/28: Louisville (9-7), Florida State (8-8), and Syracuse (7-9). Those teams are all bunched up in the middle which is exactly where we are, meaning Louisville and FSU could conceivably end the season above us. We won all our games against the bottom 4 of the conference and a 7-9 Notre Dame team. I would say that we have won the games we should have won, and have duked it out with the top 10 ACC teams to show we belong near the top of the heap.

Outside its night time, but inside its LeDay

I would say that we have won the games we should have won, and have duked it out with the top 10 ACC teams to show we belong near the top of the heap.

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I would say that we have won the games we should have won, and have duked dooked it out with the top 10 ACC teams to show we belong near the top of the heap.

FTFY

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

Edit: that's what I get for opening the reply tab and then reading the rest before replying.... cue the obligatory emma

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

What a game. What a season (so far). The ACC and NCAA tourneys are gonna be wild!

VB born, class of '14

I gotta remember to throw the decibel meter in my photo bag next year.

Damn Buzz, what a coach in so many ways, we dancing 👠

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Oh we definitely dancing

Loudest (by far) that I have heard the Cassell.

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#extendbronco

How sweet it is, to beat Duke!

Celebratory cusses are ok though, right Buzz?

You're the only ones that I can talk to about this, you guys.

Bird up

Great write up as always - damn what a game. If CC, KJB, and Bibbs comments about the noise level and crowd hypeness don't show us as fans how important it is for us to load Cassell for them, I don't know what will.

1) Remember at Buzz's press conference 4 years ago when he said he wouldn't feel successful until the top corners of the stadium were full?
2) How bout putting Horne on Baggley? Talk about ballsy coaching, I know Horne used to dominate that matchup in high school, but still a tough decision
3) We're dancing!!!

Rip his freaking head off!

I will never friggin' cuss again!

Wow, they really did keep Rob in check for the entire night. Problem is, they didn't do that for everyone else. Suck it, rat faces & committee trying to keep us out! Buzz has now accomplished something Greenberg NEVER did. SWEET FUCKIN YES!!!

#FUENTEenFUEGO
Waho's suck
Uva swallows

JRob's bum ankle might have also contributed.

This is definitely worth watching. We have a really special coach fam

Is that George Lucas in the back left?

"52.8% of their shots came from 3. I wonder what question Berman has about that." Man that as fantastic

"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders via Ricky Bobby

This is awesome. He's so incredibly passionate about his guys and this program. This is a big reason why when rumors float around about Buzz's name being linked to open jobs I don't flinch. He's as genuine as they come and he knows what he has here. I'm sure the powers that be (Whit, Sands, etc.) know what a good fit he is for our school, too, and will make it worthwhile to stick around.

I might be blabbering gobbling, but this got me all in the maroon & orange feels.

Does anyone know what Buzz meant by Chris Clarke "acting like Pig (Tyree) on the bench not getting to play"? Was he pouting or taking it well?

Pig is always cheering the team on. I think he meant CC joined him, which he did

One of the biggest cheerleaders on the bench is Pig, although he gets limited minutes. Clarke couldve pouted. HE didn't. He acted like the 2nd biggest cheerleader and that positive attitude allowed Buzz to be able to insert him late game and get the winning put back. If Chris pouts, he may not get back in.

Tweedy can run like a dadgum antelope or whatever. I like to use scalded dog. Do antelopes lumber? Cheetah, OK. He runs like a cheetah. He's fast. - Bud Foster

Thanks for the clarification from you both. I was hoping that was the case! I love this team and how they all play for each other!

Sy goes hard in the paint! and by paint I mean sideline paint area by the bench. dude looks like hes having a blast all game long lol I don't think he sits down EVER. maybe its because Chris bugs him when he does. lol

#Bapn ain't EZ

Wanna win put boobie in! Let boobie spin coach!

In that top gif, CC comes dangerously close to WMO.

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

#BULLCRAP4BUZZ #NOCUSSIN

Awesome team win for them to keep fighting

"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders via Ricky Bobby

A BULLCRAP chant immediately after Buzz gave up the mic would have been hilarious.

"Please stop cussing and don't throw things on the court...no matter how bad the officiating is, how much of a whiner Coach K is, and how much of a little b#th Grayson Allen is....thank you!"

That's what I would love to hear...

VHokie

I think his last sentence was implying exactly what you said, or at least I'd like to think so.

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

Ernest....I totally agree with you....Earnestly.
I got the exact same feeling....when he said "regardless of what's happening."....I felt he was telling the fans: "Even though the officiating sucks and Duke gets all the calls, please don't throw anything."

VHokie

It was phrased only in a way that Buzz could. It was earnest (to keep the pun going), to the point, and insinuative.

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

Oh wait....I thought Buzz was talking directly to me. I stopped cussing at home. You mean that was meant for the fans at Cassell? When Buzz speaks, I listen.

VHokie

What a victory...I'll post more later. I gotta run....taking Wendell Carter's parents out for breakfast to discuss his NBA prospects...

VHokie

Games like these make me show up at work and divide my day between TKP and looking for a job back in the NRV just so I can watch these games in person.

All right. While we're still under a caution, I want you to go back out on that track and hit the pace car.

Hit the pace car?

Hit the pace car!

What for?

Because you've hit every other goddamned thing out there, I want you to be perfect!

Skutt, I hope you're gonna put that megaphone in a glass case, because that was the real MVP... Duke went cold since the 'quit cussin' plea.

EDIT: YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO THIS BUZZ WILLIAMS INTERVIEW. Damn, I love that man.

Just read a Yahoo columnist bitch about missed calls at the end. His argument essentially says "the Duke gets every call crowd should watch that last game because they didn't get that call." I won't bother linking it because it doesn't deserve the clicks.

If you have to write an article pointing out that Duke missed a call in order to prove Duke doesn't always get every call, then Duke probably gets every call. Krzyzewski was in rare form last night. He deserved to lose in such a way.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

How great would it be if the refs decided to swallow their whistles at the end because they got tired of Coach K telling them how to do their jobs all night? It's fun to dream.

And anyone complaining about Duke not getting calls should be shown the Greyson Allen acting job that got the foul call that led to the "Bulls**t!"chant.

"Sooner or later, if man is ever to be worthy of his destiny, we must fill our heart with tolerance."
-Stan Lee

"Never half-ass two things. Whole-ass one thing."
-Ron Swanson

"11-0, bro"
-Hunter Carpenter (probably)

foul call that led to the "Bulls**t!"chant.

Buzz thanks you for not cussing.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

When you are used to getting preferential treatment, equality feels like injustice and oppression.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Nice! I will use that quote for football as well when we play the blue bloods and beat them.

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

Man that's just vintage Coach K in a tight game. He expects every single ticky tack touch foul to go his way every time down the floor. And if it doesn't, he always has the 'are you kidding me' look on his face as if the refs have been giving him the business for the entire game (ie. see the replay of the foul he wanted at the end of the first half).

He is a great basketball coach, but enough with his 'don't you know who I am' act.

Having a conversation with you is like a Martian talking to a Fungo.

#JustinTime

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

He did the exact same thing last night but he threw the whiteboard instead of the pen

Here is our "rooting interest" this week to try to get the double-bye (top 4 seeds).

4 seed:
1) VT beats the U (obviously)
2) Louisville and/or GT beat NCSU
3) Cuse and/or FSU beat Clemson
4) UVA beats Louisville (eww)

3 seed:
All of the above, and:
5) Miami beats UNC
6) Duke beats UNC

Schedule:

Tues: Miami @ UNC - 7PM
Wed: FSU @ Clemson - 9PM
Thurs: NCSU @ GT - 8 PM & UVA @ Louisville - 8PM
Sat: VT @ U - noon, CU @ SU - 2PM, Louis @ NCSU - 6PM, UNC @ Duke - 8PM

If games don't break in our favor, the lowest we can go is the 6 seed with a win over Miami. We are likely in the 7-9 range with a loss (top 9 get a bye).

Nice work!

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

Gotta root for Syracuse to beat Clemson now. I took a screenshot of this post because I got tired of going back to look for it haha.

Go Tech Go.

Oh this is smart..

And we continue our love hate relationship with Mr. Clarke. Lord, how could he make that pass?? Lord, how did he make that shot? I love him. He embodies VT spirit better than anyone. He grabs our chest, rips out our hearts and shows it to us. But you gotta love him. It is great to be a Hokie.

foresthokie
US Navy Vet

Man, it was loud and hot in there. Epic. You can't believe how hot it was on the court on a relatively cool night. I'll bet it was well over 80 degrees. But jumping at center court after beating Duke? No wonder Buzz sweats through a suit.

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

Most underrated and undervalued teams in the country. Anyone else with 4 top 10 RPI wins would be getting major national hype but here we are just now getting off the "bubble".

I don't know what a Hokie is but God is one of them (excluding JMU/ODU)- Lee Corso

We're currently sitting 31 on Kenpom. I was looking at who we lost to and other than Saint Louis (#133 on Kenpom) which is admittedly a bad, bad loss, our worst loss is to Syracuse at #51. Couple that with wins against Notre Dame (#29), Clemson (#18), North Carolina (#7), Duke (#3), and UVA (#1) and I'd say that's a pretty solid resume. The bubble talk frustrates me and reminds me of the Greenberg days.

Go Tech Go.

It's nice that our worst loss isn't even that terrible this year compared to some previous ones. St. Louis is 4th in the A-10 which should be a two bid conference this season but is typically a little stronger.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

My best friend is a big Duke fan. His reaction after the no call on Blackshear was hilarious. The irony of a Duke fan complaining about poor refereeing is comical.

So happy for Buzz and this team. Two things just to unleash my random thoughts:

1) I absolutely love the frequency and detail that Buzz and the players go into when describing the fan support and the noise inside Cassell. Chris Clarke said it best, it really is one of the loudest gyms in the country. Lane has long been talked about as one of the best venues for home field advantage as we all know, but it is so great to hear Cassell come into this conversation. These last few home games, it is clear that the energy the team gets from the crowd is palpable.

2) I'll be the first to admit that I very much dislike (did I say that politically correct?) Coach K's attitude and last night was no different. Throwing his grease board at the end of the game is one thing (frustration), but barely shaking Buzz's hand, not making eye contact, not saying a word, etc. just rubs me the wrong way. For a guy who most of the college basketball community considers the gold standard of coaching, crap like this just puzzles me as to why? Take a loss like a man and give credit where it's due.

However, I will say he gave some nice nods and credit to Tech in the postgame presser, but this quote when asked about the team's energy level towards the end made me laugh. Are you serious???

But that's the thing I was most worried about today, the energy and we didn't have it. You could tell because we were irritable. On calls, we're asking for calls and stuff like that. These kids have played 30 games and they've won a lot of games. We didn't play like we have been playing, acting like we normally act."

Newsflash Coach K: You've been doing this for 38 years now at Dook! Don't kid yourself.

Link to Duke postgame transcript: https://247sports.com/college/duke/Article/WATCH-Coach-K-Discusses-Fatig...

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

In fairness to Coach K I think he means the players were asking for calls. I don't think he was referring to himself. Players talking to refs is never productive at the college level.

True, but he did say "we." Regardless of the interpretation, you're right, that's never a good game plan. I just think it's funny coming from him, the Meriamm-Webster definition of someone who begs for calls. If he's referring only to his players, he needs to practice what he preaches.

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

I disagree with your last point. Coaches are the ones that want and expect to be the only ones talking to the ref, for many reasons.

I am not saying I approve of Coach K constantly calling refs over (announcer last night ripped on that and was awesome), but this is one of those things where it is the coach's prerogative to communicate with refs, not the players. So the practice what you preach idea doesn't apply/work.

Good point. I agree with your disagreement on that point. I do think that it is okay for coaches to communicate with the refs (and not the players) and to be the sole communicator to them, but I just don't like the way he does it. If it was anyone other than Coach K, he would've cried wolf too often before halftime of most games for the refs to give any validity to his arguments. It's like when a whiney pre-teen doesn't get their way every time something that's "so unfair" happens.

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

The problem is that he's bullshitting. Duke players don't typically complain to refs and ask for calls? That's laughable.

I don't watch enough Duke basketball to know if they do that or don't (or at least any more than teams of that caliber). That being said, I doubt Coach K wants them to do that. And I don't think you have to like Coach K to think that. Players complaining to refs simply isn't productive. 1) It's distracting the player and he's focusing on things other than the play/his actions, 2) I've yet to meet a ref that appreciated or listened to a player complaining about a call, 3) players are much less likely to phrase complaints as well as a coach, and 4) because items #2 and #3, a player complaining is much more likely to backfire than anything else.

In full disclosure - I was totally that player who complained to the ref (different sport though). I couldn't let it go and it wasn't remotely productive or helpful.

Players are much less likely to phrase complaints as well as a coach

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

Well-played. That made me laugh. Leg!

another fun quote to take out of context:

A couple of the losses we've had we've missed one-and-ones. I'm not blaming Trevon (Duval) but we've got to hit them.

Um, coach? If you don't want to blame someone, maybe don't call him out by name. Just a thought.

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*I'm not one to point fingers*

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

Great, now you've got me nervously looking over my right shoulder.

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

From the post game presser, I took that Coach K was just frustrated that his team didn't adhere to one of the primary pillars of sports warfare - When you can bury your opponent, go ahead and do it.

I REALLY thought it was very poor form to throw Duvall under the bus, though. C'mon, Sensei. You knew he was shooting 61% from the line. Maybe you get him to inbound the ball, or you snatch him out of the game on that series? That's on you Coach KayKay. To say a 61% free throw shooter "has got to hit that shot" in a hostile gym in February is idiotic.

Duvall needs to hit that shot in practice. Over and over again.

Leonard. Duh.

I'll be the first to admit that I very much dislike (did I say that politically correct?) Coach K's attitude and last night was no different. Throwing his grease board at the end of the game is one thing (frustration), but barely shaking Buzz's hand, not making eye contact, not saying a word, etc. just rubs me the wrong way. For a guy who most of the college basketball community considers the gold standard of coaching, crap like this just puzzles me as to why? Take a loss like a man and give credit where it's due.

When he makes a national recruiting campaign where he calls himself a Leader of Men on a commercial that is broadcast during every basketball game for a couple years, are we surprised that the school has produced some of the most unlikeable players in college basketball, like Steve Wojo, JJ Reddick, John Scheyer, Greg Paulus, and Grayson Allen? When your coach is a raging douche, the players are going to follow suit.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

the most unlikeable players in college basketball, like Steve Wojo, JJ Reddick, John Scheyer, Greg Paulus, and Grayson Allen

How do you provide a Murderer's Row of douche-bros, and leave out Christian Laettner? Am I too old?

Laughing that Laettner was left out of that list too. Must be getting old.

#OHMYGOSHHEDIDNTSAYBOBBYHURLEYEITHERWTF

Leonard. Duh.

that's a whooooooole lotta honkies

Never Forget #1 Overall Seed UVA 54, #64 UMBC 74

Nice catch - I didn't notice that when I brought up Laettner. I don't know why, but I liked him better. I think it's because he always looked so sickly, I thought "Well, bless his heart. Good for him." Like he was a Make-A-Wish kid, or something.

Towards the end, on that Clarke steal and fast break, anyone else notice Grayson look like he was about to stick that leg out for a trip, then pull it back?

What a heart stopper. Man that game was insane

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

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I did, I stood up and yelled out "look at him trying to trip a guy again." My wife had no clue what I was talking about and I had to inform her of his tendency to Ryu sweep kick.

Grayson v Chris Clarke, FIGHT!

via GIPHY

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Wife and I both erupted about that almost trip. We stopped the recording (we start just late enough to not have to watch commercials) and went back and slo mo'd the moment a couple of times and concluded that he did, indeed, leave that foot out there and did everything but trip Clarke, who almost fell down after his foot came down on Allen's foot. No worries though, Chris came through.
Allen's a punk and K is a rat faced whiner, confirmed yet again.

Reel men fish on Wednesdays

It looked like he also tripped Blackshear in the lane when he fell down, but it was hard to tell from the camera angle, and I don't have live rewind. Anyone get a better look?

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

I thought so at first, but on the few replays they showed, I don't think there was a trip, or a foul on it.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

They showed a replay from above. Allen didn't trip Blackshear on that play.

I have a video of the play, but can't figure out how to get it from my iphone to this thread.

Is it football season yet?

He also kicked J-Rob. Although it looked like he was going for the ball, it was definitely a frustration move where you know if the ball is gone you kick the person on the ground.

Outside its night time, but inside its LeDay

Controversy on the last second shot/attempted tip in at the end....

Did Duke actually win the game?

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Also, aside from getting the W, my favorite part was Dan Dakich calling out Coach K and Bagley all night...don't often hear someone go after Dook like that on national TV

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Probably the last time he'll get to call a game. He might have "Brockmire'd" himself.

Leg for the reference. I can't wait until season 2 comes out.

Same. The Funny or Die sketch still gets me every time.

Dakich is my hero after last night.

VHokie

I have a great story about Dakich and his hatred for WVU but I can't share it publicly.

Rip his freaking head off!

Why in the world not? You can't tease us like that!

It's a private story from his days at BG, but it obviously stems from when he took the WVU job and left a week later due to violations they hadn't reported

Rip his freaking head off!

Was at the game, so I don't know what was said on the broadcast. Any examples of what he called them out for?

Called Bagley out for being a me-first player, weak defender, and while good on offense the ball doesn't leave once he gets it.

Complained several times about Coach K talking to refs - paraphrasing "why do they walk over and talk to him??? He calls them over like they're assistant coaches. His wins shouldn't matter during the game."

And he was not beating around the bush at all. He spent at least a couple minutes saying that Bagley is a talent. He just does not pay attention on defense, does not move fast, and once he has the ball he does not even look to pass. He even added Duke should have just kept him on the bench for the rest of the season and let Allen and Duke continue to shine. It almost sounded like he was an extremely disappointed father that saw his son wasting his talent. It was weird to hear on live television.

And he was not beating around the bush at all. He spent at least a couple minutes saying that Bagley is a talent. He just does not pay attention on defense, does not move fast, and once he has the ball he does not even look to pass.

Sounds like Bagley will be the perfect NBA player!

Bagley was called out for lack of hustle on defense and being selfish on offense. He was saying that when Bagley gets the ball, he is going to shoot it and doesn't look for the kick out to open guys regardless if he has good position or not.

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He pointed out almost every time towards the end of the game that K was bending the refs ears, but that the refs just seemed to automatically come over and let him do it, regardless of what was going on at the time, like not coaching his kids during a time out so he could tell the refs how to do their job. He also said something along the lines of the refs shouldn't even come over to listen to him (K), said he wouldn't if it was him and said he didn't care how many games K had won, he wouldn't put up with that. Can't remember better than that other than to say that he definitely made it clear that he thought K was out of bounds with his attempts to influence the refs. I've never heard a broadcaster say anything even remotely critical of the whiner-in-chief so it was refreshing and satisfying to hear someone just flat out call him out for it.

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Very interesting. Thanks for all the recaps, peeps!

Dakich may have been right in his criticism of Bagley & Coach K, but he's still ESPN's worst color commentator on their major college basketball coverage.

As the saying goes, even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.

This is true, but I thought Dakich evened it out with his over-the-top, embarrassing love for Grayson Allen. I think Allen could shoot a man on the street right in front of Dakich and all he would say is what tremendous aim this kid has.

Can someone please meme Grayson Allen's face at the end

I don't know what a Hokie is but God is one of them (excluding JMU/ODU)- Lee Corso

My boss would be pissed if she knew how much time and effort went into this bad joke.

I laughed at my desk while on a conference call and the phone was not muted. So you have won my leg.

All right. While we're still under a caution, I want you to go back out on that track and hit the pace car.

Hit the pace car?

Hit the pace car!

What for?

Because you've hit every other goddamned thing out there, I want you to be perfect!

Next burning questiong...where's the GIFtory?

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

GIFTORY of this degree takes time to perfect.

All right. While we're still under a caution, I want you to go back out on that track and hit the pace car.

Hit the pace car?

Hit the pace car!

What for?

Because you've hit every other goddamned thing out there, I want you to be perfect!

I think this is what Buzz told the team in the final timeout.

Outside of the Saint Louis loss and the Louisville round 2 loss, I am at peace with every outcome on our schedule. But, man, if we were sitting at 23-7 right now without the Saint Louis and Louisville pt. 2 loss, I'd be uncontrollably happy...

im going to go ahead and take some credit for this win even though buzz didn't want to name drop and put it all on one person.... when I was watching the game we were -24 when I wasn't watching we were +25 I had a 7 on 7 flag football game and I was jumping back and forth on my phone after we went down 9 in the 2nd half I just stopped looking and didn't check it again until after the game was over.

#Bapn ain't EZ

Wanna win put boobie in! Let boobie spin coach!

You know what you need to do the rest of the season. Hokie Nation thanks you for your sacrifice.

1-0.

#Bapn ain't EZ

Wanna win put boobie in! Let boobie spin coach!

I did the same. I actually told myself to 'Go read your book. We're going to lose if you watch'. So I did.

It sucks. Now I'll be thinking that every time we fall behind in the second half. So DON'T DO THAT!!!!

OT: What are you reading?

Sharpe series. Bernard Cornwell

Highly recommend.

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Buzz's love for his wife, or as he calls her "momma," makes me want to step my game up as a husband, real talk! Totally off topic I know, but man, I look up to this guy with each game that passes. Even my wife last night was astonished by his efforts to put the crowd in check.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

"In the three times we've played Duke since I've been here in Blacksburg, with each passing game, there's less and less of a percentage of Duke fans in attendance," said Williams. "Which speaks to the fact that there has been a groundswell of support of our group and how we're trying to do it."

Interesting quote. And I say interesting because I know a number of season ticket holders, each with multiple seats, who are avid VT supporters until Duke comes to town. At that point they are supporters of Duke basketball. Some of them, so much so, that I've personally witnessed them yelling at Buzz and the players during these games. These season ticket holders are scattered throughout, and in the grand scheme of things, their numbers aren't overwhelming, but these people do exist, and they may for some time based on the age of a few of them.

Is it football season yet?

Fuck those people.

quit cussin. Buzz said so.

"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders via Ricky Bobby

Those people can vigorously have sex in a way that is disrespectful to their existence

Better?

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

I was real nervous on that desperation 3. It looked like it had a chance of going in had it not been touched

Nope. Not even close to going in.

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At most it was going to doink off the side of the rim, at the least it was an air ball.

Leonard. Duh.

Yep, that sums it up. It was short and wouldn't have been able to even get a Dook shooter's roll if it hit the rim at all. Airball, shmairball, all it was was a scareball.

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The ol' rim doinker... heh heh classic Duke

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I don't have time to read the whole thread, so apologies if this is a repeat.

Devin Wilson almost shut down a lottery pick in the post for the whole game. Marvin Bagley 3rd was held in check on the block by Wilson while VT played their matchup zone looks. Blackshear was tasked with either denying the entry pass from the strong side block, or checking a big at the elbow. This meant when the ball was slung around to the far side, they would look to enter the ball away from Blackshear's size.

This left Wilson on an island for most of the game and VERY often, Duke found Wilson in there banging with Bagley, didn't like the look, and abandoned trying to enter it.

Amazing defense by a consummate Hokie: heart, grit, toughness personified.

The Dude Abides

Devin Wilson almost shut down a lottery pick in the post for the whole game.

I was taking notice of this the entire game. Amazing if you ask me.

Is it football season yet?

I don't know, seems like a stretch to me. I don't see that as a "dirty" play at all.

You don't see him kick his leg out? Given his history, I do think its dirty. He then basically almost hit Justin in the head with a forearm. They clearly exchanged words....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-iDRqp7i2g

VHokie

A player with Allen's history does not get, nor does he deserve, the benefit of the doubt on plays like this.

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I saw a couple of plays where Duke stuck their legs out. Not sure if it got called or not.

There were at least 2 screens where one of their bigs was screening for Allen and Jrob was nearly tripped. None of them were called.

I spent some time reading the Duke Basketball open forum game thread....

Even some of the Duke fans are disillusioned with Bagley's defense.

https://duke.forums.rivals.com/threads/duke-vs-virginia-tech-official-ga...

While I appreciate your passionate defense of MBIII, you are way out in left field about his effort on D and his sacrificing anything for Duke basketball. The Bagley's are going to be just fine whether MBIII plays a second in the NBA or not. They have insurance policies, paid for by the university, to cover them in case he should get injured. Not to mention getting coaching from the GOAT. Furthermore, Bagley is a player that has the ability to be a holy terror on the defensive end of the floor, much like Anthony Davis was for Kentucky. But he's not. Why? Effort, plain and simple. I can't stand Dakich, but he, JWill and Greenberg are all correct in saying he's a liability because of the effort he gives on that end of the floor. Again, Dakich was out of line in how he worded it (he doesn't strike me as all that bright anyways, so a limited vocab might be more the culprit) but he wasn't wrong.

VHokie

I agree with most everything he said but can't completely agree with "The Bagleys are going to be just fine whether MBIII plays a second in the NBA or not."

"Just fine" is relative. I don't know what those insurance policies typically pay out for an athlete of Bagley's potential, but if he has the NBA career he's capable of, he has an opportunity to create generational wealth that most people never get close to.

"Just fine" means something different to us regular people. If I had Bagley's earning potential and never achieved it because of a career ending injury, I doubt living comfortably off insurance would feel just fine.

... if he has the NBA career he's capable of, he has an opportunity to create generational wealth that most people never get close to.

If he doesn't start playing defense and team basketball, he's not going to have the NBA career he's capable of.

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

Bagley is already on his way to the NBA.

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I didn't say he wasn't going to have an NBA career, just that he wasn't going to have the NBA career that he's capable of. If he doesn't start working on defense, his career will be shorter than it could be.

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

Just ask James Harden....

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Harden is an offensive talent you see only a couple times in a generation. Bagley could be that special offensively, but isn't right now. His offensive prowess is being more athletic than the rest of the people on the floor. If anybody thinks he will be dunking 6 times a game in the NBA they're crazy. He's shown flashes of how special he could be offensively, but it's not very consistent and I'm not yet convinced.

I also think bigs in general need to be better defenders than perimeter guys like Harden because they have to go 1 on 1 with other bigs as well as play help for every single guy that gets into the lane.

Ah, I didn't understand your Harden reference earlier (as I don't watch the NBA). I do know.

#TheMoreYouKnow

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

Harden, and whoever the guy at the top of the key is, waste of space on that play

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Harden's reputation is worse than his results, this year. Houston has a top-10 defense and Harden's on/off numbers weren't horrific last year. He's a below-average individual defender on a team with an above-average defense. He's going to be a matador (turnstile, cone, spectator, etc) on some plays. He's also going to more than make up for it on the other end.

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"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Pour one out for the homie.

I gotcha, I was just saying that his head is already there. He's checked out and just waiting to announce and then for the draft. Kinda like that Simmons (sp) kid from LSU.

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"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

You don't live in Charlottesville you live in Blacksburg!

So I poured myself a rum and tonic and started to watch a replay of the game. I'm at halftime now and I must say, the commentary on Bagley III being a selfish player that can't play defense was dead on. Duke's 16-3 run came when he was on the bench! So, I must say, Thank you Bagley!

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

Being at Cassell last night, I had to watch the broadcast when I got home from the game.

It is a honest assessment type of commentary.

rum and tonic

Is that a thing? I like both of those things, but I've never put them together.

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When I was a young buck, I was on a jag with very little money and a "torrid affair" going on. Woke up one morning and mixed 151 rum with warm beer from the night before. Had a dollar in change and the car was out of gas in the driveway (pushed it in when it ran dry at the entrance) so my options were limited. Sometimes, you just have to mix whatever you have on hand. Still not sure how I survived that three weeks, or how much of my life I cut short because of it, but it was worth it.

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Oh ya, I love them together. I used to order Gin & Tonic's and occasionally a Vodka Tonic's until someone told me about Rum & Tonic's and now I won't go back. I do 2 parts White Rum (typically Bacardi), 1 part tonic water, and finish it off with a good splash of lime juice. So refreshing. Give it a try.

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

glad Allen couldn't drain a desperation three like that Miami kid.

Berry - "ice in my viens, biatch!"
Newton - "Hold my beer"

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UNC was fully at fault for that play. They played absolutely no defense on that last play (watch the replay, two players barely closed out on that three point attempt). Makes me appreciate that much more the savviness of our players to rush back to defense even after a monumental tip in by CC. It would've been easy for them to just celebrate and in turn be late back on the defensive side.

Disclaimer: I know the players didn't want to foul the shooter, but that isn't an excuse in my opinion to not challenge the shot, hell challenge the ball carrier's path to the half court line at least. That's end of game scenario, basketball 101.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

We've been there before....

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

You had to go there didn't you Alum? I remember that game like it was yesterday, ugh! Maybe I should've added another disclaimer: our players are more fundamental savvy NOW under Buzz.

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To this day its the only time my mother has dropped the f-bomb watching sports

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

I'd give a week of my life to have heard my sainted mother utter said bomb.

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Too soon.

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

"TKP: come for the horrifying memories, stay for the hilariously ill-fitting uniforms"

You're the only ones that I can talk to about this, you guys.

That you, Pinky?

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I was just thinking how awkwardly fitting and hideous those were. The only thing that could've made those worse would be to add shoulder stripes.

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

The regular whites weren't much better... thanks, Adidas...

Didn't improve with Nike, either...

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Ya, we had a really bad stretch of uniforms there. I never understood why the shoulders on the uniform that Zabian is wearing were cut so wide. Also, the first image above of the women's team uniform is very shiny.

EDIT: Also, the first image above of the women's team uniform is very shiny. /s

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

Women's uniform???

joke

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

I think that's Deron...

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joke

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

Also, the first image above of the women's team uniform is very shiny.

Not sure if kidding but i busted out laughing anyway

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Also, the first image above of the women's team uniform is very shiny.

What did you say?

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

I got the chance to meet him; super nice guy.

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

I worked with a guy in college that was Jeff's PeeWee basketball coach and he became an acquaintance. But I agree, he is a just a good ol guy from SWVA.

I had a thing for his now wife. We went out a couple times and became friends. She told me about this guy "Jeff" who was on the football team she had started dating. Once I met him, I couldn't even be mad. Dude is nice, and he was on his way to the NFL...couldn't compete with that.

Reminds me of the moment he owned Sheldon Williams and VT beat Duke for the first time since 1966.

Between that game and 2007 when we knocked off #1 UNC, I am not sure I have seen any stadium go through the kind of absolute pandemonium that Cassell was. Nobody in the building actually expected us to win those games, and the celebration was out of control when it all went down.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Like when the PA announced that they needed Dowdell's jersey returned for the next game. When you need to get the players clothes back, you know that the place went crazy.

Fuck JJ Redick.

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The Miami game now takes on monumental proportions in terms of ACC Tournament seeding. With UNC losing to Miami, it opens the door for the possibility of the Hokies being as high as 3rd or as low as 9th based on how things turn out.

Here is what is remaining and where the current standings are:

North Carolina 11-6 Goes to Duke
Clemson 10-6 - Hosts Florida State, Goes to Syracuse
NC State 10-6 Goes to Georgia Tech, Hosts Louisville
Miami 10-7 Hosts Virginia Tech
Virginia Tech 10-7 Goes to Miami
Louisville 9-7 Hosts UVA, Goes to NC State
Florida State 8-8 Goes to Clemson, Hosts Boston College

As I see it

UNC finishes 11-7 by losing to Duke
Clemson finishes 12-6 by beating FSU and Syracuse
NC State finishes 11-7 by beating GT and losing to Louisville
Miami finishes 10-8 by losing to VT
VT finishes 11-7 by beating Miami
Louisville finishes 10-8 by losing to UVA and beating NC State
Florida State finishes 9-9 by losing to Clemson and beating BC at home.

That would rearrange the rankings to be
Clemson 12-6
UNC, NC State, VT tied at 11-7 which would mean
VT 11-7 2-0 against tied opponents
NC State/UNC would go to a further tiebreaker because they split their season series
Miami and Louisville tied at 10-8, Miami beat Lousville
Miami
Louisville
Florida State at 9-9

Obviously any number of things change above but I just wanted to give one scenario to show just how important this next game is.

Wow! I knew it was jumbled, but to see it laid out is crazy. Good work, thanks. Time to go 1-0. I really think we get Miami this time.

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

Coastal Chaos!

Last time we lost to a team at home and then played them on the road this year, it worked out pretty well for us. Jus' sayin'.

Just so you know *when* to root for particular teams, the games on each day this week are listed below (non-relevant in games parentheses, ltrepeter2000's prognosticated winners in italics):

Wednesday
(Pittsburgh @ Notre Dame, 7pm)
Florida State @ Clemson, 9pm
(Syracuse @ Boston College, 9pm)

Thursday
NC State @ Georgia Tech, 8pm
Virginia @ Louisville, 8pm

Friday
no games

Saturday
(Wake Forest @ Georgia Tech, noon)
Virginia Tech @ Miami, 1pm
Clemson @ Syracuse, 2pm
Boston College @ Florida State, 2pm
(Notre Dame @ Virginia, 4pm)
Louisville @ NC State, 6pm
North Carolina @ Duke, 8:15pm

Edit: Added italics for ltrepeter2000's estimated winners

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

We can get the 3 seed.

We have to beat Miami, and NC State & Clemson only need to both lose 1 of their final 2 games (and both teams are playing someone looking to boost their resume in Syracuse & Louisville).

Here's a website where you plug in the outcomes and it spits out the final standings:

http://bball.notnothing.net/acc.php?sport=mbb

So it looks like a VT win over Miami, Duke over Carolina, and one of NC State/Clemson losing one game for us to get the four seed, does that sound right? Just trying to determine what needs to happen for the Hokies to get the double bye.

I think Carolina over Duke and both NC State and Clemson losing would work as well.

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If Tech beats Miami, UNC loses and NC State and Clemson only win one each Tech gets the 3 seed.

Tech also gets the 3 if UNC loses, NC State or Clemson win one and the other loses both

4 seed would come if Carolina wins, NC State and Clemson win only one

Carolina wins, NC State and Clemson lose both

Clemson wins both, UNC loses, and NC State wins only one

NC State wins both, UNC loses, and Clemson wins only one

All that really matters is Tech needs to take care of business down in Miami.

I thought about cutting it and adding obligatory slo mo portions, but the whole video was just too good.

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Someone needs to take every major moment in VT basketball history and set them to that song.

What I really like from this particular run through of that last sequence is you can tell who the smart players are. JRob and Greyson Allen both know pretty much immediately it's not good. Contrast with Bagley who's still celebrating after JRob chest bumps the whole Hokie bench.

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So who gonna take the TKP name 'QuitCussin'

Was just thinking the same thing, almost. Thought about CuitQussin', but what's that got to do with fishing?

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