Virginia Tech Football Recruiting: QB Dwayne Lawson Commits to the Hokies

Hokies add Sunshine State quarterback commitment.

Dwayne Lawson at the 2014 Elite 11 QB Regional Workout in Orlando, FL. [Student Sports]

Virginia Tech secured its first verbal commitment from a quarterback in the 2015 recruiting cycle. Hillsborough (Tampa, Florida) dual-threat signal caller Dwayne Lawson committed to the Hokies today during the Semper Fidelis Bowl. ESPN, Rivals and 247Sports rate Lawson as a 4-star prospect.

Lawson originally verballed to the University of Miami on May 15th, but decommitted from the 'Canes on December 19th.

Lawson had an impressive senior season, statistically speaking, and the ESPN.com scouting report lauds the potential of the ESPN 300 prospect.

Overall, Lawson may have as much physical upside as any prospect in this class at the position regardless of category. He possesses all arm power, measurables and athleticism that cannot be taught. However, he is raw, but also very exciting. He reminds us a lot of what Cam Newton looked like coming out of high school. No, we're not saying he is Cam Newton, but the physical skill set, ceiling for development and measurables are all eerily similar. This guy could be a dynamic, monster signal caller in the shotgun spread offense that wants run production from the quarterback position. Expect his stock to rise considerably as a senior. Top tier talent.

After an impressive 2014 freshman season, Miami sophomore Brad Kaaya seemingly has the Hurricanes quarterback job wrapped up for the foreseeable future. The 6-5, 210 pound Lawson who took an official visit to Tech on 11/28 will have a chance to compete for playing time much sooner in Blacksburg. Incumbent starter Michael Brewer had an up-and-down campaign in 2014, and will be a senior in 2015. Soon-to-be junior Brenden Motley was a playmaker in the Wild Turkey package, but only completed 1 of 3 attempted passes. True freshmen Andrew Ford and Chris Durkin were highly regarded 2014 signees, but both redshirted and haven't had an opportunity to establish themselves.

Lawson's highlights from each game of his senior season are available on his Hudl.

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Dang Joe, that was quick. Really happy to get this kid. We went 2 for 3 this weekend! Awesome! Welcome to Hokie Nation Dwayne!

It's almost as if he had an article written and ready to post the moment Lawson announced his commitment.

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Good lord that was posted quickly

My response:

lol

EDIT: Just took a look at his highlight tape. I'm no French but this this guy seems like somone who's DEFINITELY going to need a couple of years of development before he can effectively take the reins. That being said, he's got massive upside (like Joe mentioned in his initial post)... If everything goes the right way, man the sky is the limit. This is a "make or break prospect" for Lefty. I hope he's got intelligence, toughness and a strong work ethic because he could be really special...French/Joe/whoever, what are the odds he switches positions?

Agreed. I don't agree with the Cam Newton comparison, because Newton from Day 1 had the big frame to be a between the tackles pounding. Lawson may grow some, but he won't be that kind of power house. From a talent-set, he is very similar to a raw Deshaun Watson from Clemson. He is athletic, and he has the arm strength to hit every throw. His mechanics are raw and that will take time. I know a bunch of folks thing he will compete for the job day 1, and I don't think that is fair at all. I fully expect Lawson to be redshirted (and then Logan Byrd to be redshirted in 2016) with a three way battle for the starting job taking place between Ford, Durkin, and Lawson in 2016.

Next year is a crap shoot. I love Brewer's toughness, and he should have earned the respect of the fan base. At the same time, his upside is limited. Lots of folks talk about the lack of deep balls with Brewer, but for me that isn't the big issue. For whatever the reason (and you would have to ask Loeffler), almost all of Brewer's throws, especially towards the end of the season, were outside the hashes. When a defense only has to defend 2/3rds of the field, it makes pass defense much easier. It is even more stunning when you go back to last year's tape and you see how important slants (DJ Coles) and short crossing routes were to the offense. They were MIA from the offense this season, and I suspect that they were MIA because of Brewer's ability to see receivers over his OL between the hashes. More on this later in the spring.

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wouldve liked to see more Malleck crossing routes in the middle of the field and maybe Byrn or Cam Phillips. Think it could have opened up even more. It was nice to see the offense not look like early in the season in the bowl game. Obviously with our 2 frosh tail backs injured and Malleck hobbled, things did not go as planned. Very excited for 2015!

Where would you compare him to Bucky coming out of HS?

MIA because of his inability to see his receivers over the middle, or his inability to see defenders over the middle?

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inability to see recievers

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Couldn't we offset this with TE slants? Seems like Brewer would have an easier time seeing Bucky, Malleck and Cline over the middle. Do we just not trust the TEs to run those routes?

"And then the real chess match began." - Justin Fuente

Tall linemen make it tough for a 5'11 QB to see a slant inside and make sure there isn't a middle linebacker undercutting the route.

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So I was peeking back through this thread and I couldn't help but to chuckle when I read this...

I fully expect Lawson to be redshirted (and then Logan Byrd to be redshirted in 2016) with a three way battle for the starting job taking place between Ford, Durkin, and Lawson in 2016.

It's truly amazing how personnel circumstances almost never shape up the way we predict them to years down the road.

Sometimes I like to leave off the /s just to mess with people.

or even personnel circumstances, for that matter

If a tree falls in Scott Stadium does it make a sound?

Lol fixed. I know it's the internet and you probably won't believe me (I probably wouldn't) but that's what it autocorrected to when I first typed it. I really need to proofread my posts. I do the interwebs shame.

Sometimes I like to leave off the /s just to mess with people.

no worries...just bustin' chops. have a couple TLs

If a tree falls in Scott Stadium does it make a sound?

I was watching it live then saw this posted. How the hell did u post this so quick?

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And Mook is playing tough

What number is mook?

21 Dee Fullwood is 16. Thanks to French for Fullwood's number.

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Thanks I didn't realize they were even in this game. I was just waiting for Lawson to commit that I didn't even pay attention.

21. They just called a BS passing interference on him.

In Sam Rogers we trust.

Hellz yeah!

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I'm a happy hokie!!

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this has been an awesome weekend for recruiting. settle now Lawson, these kids could be huge playmakers for us in the years to come

tyrod did it mikey! tyrod did it!

Mook can hit (watching Semper Fi game). Like watching Kyle Fuller as an underclass man when you could just tell he would be a badass.

So true about Kyle. Remember thinking that he was the best open field tackler at corner I'd ever seen at Tech very early in his career here.

UVA game his freshman year was when most of Hokie Nation realized it, IIRC

Damn, you are too fast with this stuff. Great pick up though. I was looking at his stats and I like to see that his accuracy and INTs improve every season. Hopefully means that he doesn't just rely on raw talent to win, but works to get better and better. Also, after seeing Cardale Jones for OSU, I realized how much I missed having a bulldozer sized QB. Great get, and welcome to Hokie Nation!

Joe like any GREAT journalist has things ready to go. Yall have never heard of the updating of an obituary?

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If Lawson is a taller version of Tyrod Taylor, he could be scary . He sounds as hungry as the rest of the Hokie team. Great get for the Hokies. Competition will make everyone better.

Lawson under center right now!

He is tall

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#analysis

Big scramble there!

Great scramble.

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I can see that in the near future in lane stadium running around!

Lawson taking snaps now. Needs Gentrification but this dude can run! Tyrod with field vision

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Best part was he was looking to throw until the very last minute.

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I don't want to see that in lane stadium tho.

How does Lawson rate in the recruit rankings compared to Durkin/Ford? Not that that is the end all be all, just interested.

Durkin and Ford were 3 stars, whereas, Lawson was a highly regarded 4 stars.

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Not to rain on the parade, but Lawson is a low 4 star on the 247 composite. FWIW, I think he is being underrated by the services.

Durkin & Ford were both mid to high 3-stars in the 247 composite. Lawson is a low 4-star. The composite has some limitations though.

Generally I find a combination of Rivals & 247 to be accurate. And while ESPN doesn't have the range of coverage and as frequent of updates, if they rate someone as a 4 or 5 star they tend to be a really good prospect. Here's how our freshmen and committed prospects stack up in the ratings game.

Andrew Ford
Pro-style QB, 2014, 6-3 200lb
247 Composite: *** (84.4), #34 Pro-style QB
247 Rating: ****(90), #16
Rivals Rating: ***, #26

Chris Durkin
Pro-style QB, 2014, 6-4 216lb
247 Composite: *** (88.6), #18
247 Rating: **** (90), #19
Rivals Rating: ***, #16

Dwayne Lawson
Pro-style QB, 2015, 6-6 207lb
247 Composite: **** (90.4), #10
247 Rating: **** (90), #11
Rivals Rating: ****, #16

Logan Byrd
Pro-style QB, 2016, 6-3 229lb
247 Composite: *** (87.6), #21
247 Rating: *** (89), #17
Rivals Rating: ****, #(TBD)

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As a point of reference:

Michael Brewer
Pro-style QB, 2011, 6-0, 182
247 Composite: *** (85.6), #24
247 rating: *** (84), #?
Rivals Rating: ***, #13

Note: FWIW, my memory is that 247 was not the standard bearer it is now in 2010-2011.

About the same, but a tad bit higher. The rankings overall went:

Lawson
Durkin
Ford

Lawson fumble?

31 comments and no tight end jokes.. I think we're making progress

Now that you say that, I could see him getting moved to WR and being another Bucky downfield.

play the tight end card

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The announcers said he played DT sometimes in high school.

You sure they didn't say "dual threat" or DT for dual threat?

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They said "defensive tackle." No joke

THE UNIVERSITY of Virginia Tech.. lol Hope he ends up as well as Tyrod did now that he has started like him!

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I think this happens for a couple of reasons. First, a lot of schools start with the university, so allows just that much extra suspense. These kids like the drama. Second I think they are using it a different way. Not saying we are the university of Virginia tech, rather the university, Virginia tech.

Anyway, can't knock them though, still new to the culture and probably don't realize it.

I like to think that Virginia Tech is THE university of Virginia. (insert anOSU joke here)
All the commits realize this and say they're committing to The real university in Virginia: Virginia Tech

West Virginian by birth, Hokie by choice

Went 2 for 3 on this huge recruiting weekend.

And now to flip Cager.

"And then the real chess match began." - Justin Fuente

Maybe Cager thought Lawson was still going to Miami and will change his mind too.

Lawson throwing to I. Ford, Cam, Bucky, and a 6'5 Cager is a scary thought. Hell, I. Ford, Cam, and Bucky developing together is a scary thought.

Kendrick Holland is 6'4 he could be a good target, and Bradshaw should be good. Hopefully Bradshaw can replace what we lost in Byrn and Holland can help ease Cager loss.

FIRST DOWN, HOKIES!

I'm not sold that we've lost Cager.

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Tyrod 2.0! QB competition will be insane. Welcome to Hokienation my friend.

With this we end up with a nice recruiting class. Any other high profile targets that are seriously considering us?

Hopefully a Taylor flip.

After seeing Kyle Phillips dominate yesterday, playing time looks like it may be tough for Taylor at Tennessee.

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It'd be really nice, but I wouldn't count on it. He's given multiple interviews recently that say he's just paying lip service to VT as a sign of respect that they haven't backed off him. He'd be a huge commit, but he seems really, really solid to UT. Vic Alexander seems like a much more legit chance at a flip, especially with Mora interviewing with the Jets, and could be a very, very legit MLB for us.

If we were Ohio State or some other team that finishes in the recruiting top 10 most years, I'd call this a 'nice class'. As far as I can tell, this is the best recruiting class in VT history....it's a fan-fucking-tastic class. We landed supposed big time players on the o-line, d-line, linebacker, dback, running back and QB - can't think of another year that was even close in terms of overall talent at a variety of positions.

Let's go get Cager. Get Cager and this class is top-10.

Oh, and don't forget that VT tends to find guys who fit our scheme on defense, so I fully expect those three star defenders to be great Hokies one day.

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And there's a very good chance we flip Victor Alexander from UCLA. Dude hits like a truck at lb.

Victor Alexander (3-star LB, currently committed to UCLA but expected to flip) and Darrell Taylor (4-star DE, Committed to Tennessee, wouldn't count on him flipping) are probably the only guys currently worth watching for. Maybe Cager is still a possibility if the coaches turnover at Miami.

Maybe Victor Alexander and another O-lineman. I forget the O-line guys name but he is just a 3 star. I imagine these 2 or Darrell Taylor would be it though, the class is getting pretty big.

FIRST DOWN, HOKIES!

Shelton Johnson, a 4* DE out of Delray Beach, FL has been mentioned a couple times as a possibility if Florida State doesn't have enough room for him.

Sounds like anything north of Florida will be too cold for him. Not sure where he ends up.

...perhaps Cuba?

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Delray Beach, eh. Never heard of it. Has anybody good ever come out of there? Like any good DEs or DTs?

Great weekend!

Fullwood #16 is playing tackle not end in the semper fidelis bowl.

He's having a bit of a rough night.

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The West team seems to have much bigger D lineman lining up.

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I noticed that too. He looks like an end to me, is there a reason he is getting pushed inside?

We needed an elite level QB in this class... We just got it.

Very quietly, we are building a monster in Blacksburg. This kid seems to be a mix between Tyrod and Logan, and would not be shocked at all if he's the guy in 2016 and beyond. Redshirt him this year and then unleash the beast.

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

Wow according to announcer he played some DT for his high school too so we got some more depth on the D-line. Can line him up beside Settle. All kidding aside his deep ball has looked nice on two straight throws that the receiver dropped and should have been touchdowns.

Lawson also played DT in high school. He has a back up if QB doesnt pan out. Watching the game, Lawson throws a beautiful deep ball.

This may be a flaming #HotTaek but I'm gonna throw it out there. Saw a tweet that brought this up.

The QB's that Loeffler has brought in all play wildly different styles. Is this another knock on him being a scatter brained OC without a true vision?

I'm super stoked about Loeffler nabbing Lawson. Just advcoating the devil.

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Its a good question. My guess is that it allows him to see what he has with the rest of the team and then can choose a QB around that system.

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Could be. But at the same time I'd hope that the 'best' QB in practice/camp would start regardless of how the rest of the team shapes up.

Get your ass on the ground and we'll party

Or he is planning for a groundbreaking three quarterback Wild Turkey formation

-Stick it in

What are you talking about? 3 tight end sets are pretty common.

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I'm on board with exploring this phenomenon. I originally wondered if Loeffler looked at the bare cupboard and just went out and grabbed whatever he could to survive. He certainly took command at the barren QB spot when we needed him to, and that earned him all kinds of admiration from me. But the trend of different styles of QBs seems to persist...
Is there a master plan?

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Definitely agree with you. I don't want to sound ungrateful-- I'm psyche'd about all of the QB commitments and the improved recruiting as a whole. But is that master plan there?

Get your ass on the ground and we'll party

I'm actually looking at it from a positive perspective. I wonder if there is some kind of utilitarian, switch QB's against different teams strategy being developed.
Lord knows that GT offense has gotten a lot of respect now.
Is it possible we could be putting together a comprehensive offensive attack never seen before?
OK, blame the tequila.

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Hey, tequila can help come up with good ideas!

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I would think it wouldn't matter really. I mean I'm pretty sure Lawson has dreams of going prop which means he needs to learn to be a pocket passer if he wants any long term success in the NFL. If he has the ability to scramble and run guys over when a play breaks down all the better. His first priority should be throwing the ball though.

If you don't want to recruit clowns, don't run a clown show.

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If he is a good coach, he should be able to teach varying types of players

Tyrod did it, Mikey!

I think in the introductory press conference or an early interview he talked about the type of QB he wanted to recruit. If I'm remembering correctly, he considers the ability to run the ball a bonus but not an essential part of playing QB in his ideal system.

Lawson just had two TD's dropped. The second ball on a go route hit the receiver in stride right on his number and the kid dropped it.

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We weren't on the players by college list. Coulda swore we had 3 there.

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We do after the Lawson commitment. Fullwood is playing end and tackle. Mook has 2 questionable pi calls.

Pretty cool video of Jon Gruden working with Lawson's HS.

Also Lawson's highlight compilation.

VT '15

I like that the highlight video was done by a Miami fan/site and had him as committed to Miami at the end of the video haha. Not anymore!

Who puts together the Huddl videos? Just curious, because the song choice made me crack up. I can just see Beams now muting it right away and sticking to the visuals.

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I muted it right away to watch it ha ha ha.

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Or uncontrollably dancing the entire time. I'm sure that's what he does. Excellent scouting technique. And people say the game has passed him by...

HUDL is on the kid or his camp to get put together. Some high schools obviously make it easier than others by having better game film options, alot of small companies these days are offering this kind of video as a service but most kids seem to have a fan that is good with video production put theirs together.

Man.... Those balls he throws look purdy. They just fall from the sky and land perfectly in his WRs hands. So beautiful

Tyrod did it, Mikey!

That Gruden video opens with our boy getting sack-fumbled lol.

Get your ass on the ground and we'll party

Bold Prediction: Lawson doesn't red shirt next season

Less bold prediction...Lawson red shirts next season.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say one of you will be right.

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i agree

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I can see that - ultimate drive extender.

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WHOA!

Beautiful td pass, hit the guy in stride

So what other recruits have yet to decide? I know Bryce Love named us in his top 5 and will decide January 30th but are there any big names left?

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Damn we are getting a lot of 4 star recruiticorns this cycle, hope they all qualify and pan out! We have to be pretty darn close to our scholly limit at this point. Who are the big targets left?

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If he's GOT IT , he should play But Frank Beamer has always red shirted his QBs, shame when we have had one or two that should have played from day one here at VT. From what I've seen in the last two years of our OC/QB coach and the plays he calls, Lawson shouldn't have a problem playing. Bubble screens left or right and Third down long pass shouldn't be a problem. Least the kid can see past the line of scrimmage.

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Randall and Tyrod are the only ones I can think of that did not. Can anyone think of another?

Many will say MV7, but a huge reason he came to VT was a promise Beamer made to his HS coach and his mother that he would be redshirted so he could establish himself in college before the pressure of playing. Given what we saw from him, many people wish he would have played as a true freshman for a total of 3 years. But Beamer kept his word; it's something he discusses in his book. He wanted to play him, but had to keep his word.

I also don't know that TT was really ready his first year. Tons of raw ability, but he really needed time before being thrown into the fire.

But MV7 wasn't a highly rated recruit. If I'm not mistaken, he came in as a (very clearly underrated) 3* QB where we needed to promise a guaranteed redshirt to come. At the end of the day, he ended up being the best recruit we ever landed, but out of high school, he wasn't really someone who moved the national needle. MV5 and Tyrod, they both came in as very highly regarded 5* players who were front page ESPN news when they committed. MV7 wasn't even the big fish in his own district in the commonwealth that year, that went to Ronald Curry, who went to UNC after originally signing with UVa (we never had a chance).

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But MV7 was probably ready to play. We're not talking perception or recruiting ranking here, it's all ability. Frank got to a point in 1998 where he knew he had a star on his bench, wanted to play him, but stuck to his principles. That's still a bitter point among a lot of people after seeing what he could do in the next 2 years, and knowing that Beamer was sitting him even if he didn't really want to.

Really speaks to the true man that Frank is keeping his word to the family even if it meant not being able to put him on the field.

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Speaking to how accurate he was as a redshirt, at the Music City Bowl the team was forced to practice inside a basketball gym due to weather and apparently the seniors were giving Vick a hard time about being a "superstar". He proceeded to go to midcourt and threw a football through the rim with his left hand, then went to the end of the court and threw it through the hoop with his right hand. Pretty ridiculous skills sitting on the bench.

Which just baffles the mind when you consider how awful his accuracy ended up being in the NFL. The Falcons really just decimated his career early on by asking him to be a RB that threw instead of a QB that could run. With better talent around him, and a coaching staff that cared about protecting their franchise investment, he could have been one of the all time greats, even with the off the field stuff.

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Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

I think this statement is very unfair to the Falcons. Do you remember the interview of Vick by Jim Mora Jr. after he served his prison sentence and was coming back to the NFL? While with the Falcons, Mora tried to coach Vick, but Vick wasn't interested in putting in the work or listening. Mora would put together DVDs for the week of practice and Vick said that he would just toss them in the back seat of his car and never look at them. Said he was always one of the last to show up for practice and one of the first to leave. Mora was dumbfounded that Vick wasn't picking up his coaching and kept trying different ways to reach Vick, but Vick just wasn't interested in listening or putting in the work that is expected of a QB at the NFL level. He knew that he could coast by relying on his freak athleticism. That is why he looked like a RB that threw instead of a QB that could run. The biggest obstacle to Vick becoming one of the all-time greats was Vick himself. Vick has admitted as much.

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I was told late in the '98 season by a starting o-linemen, then a junior, that Mike was no longer overwhelmed and, at times, making the starting defense look silly while running scout team. Looking back I doubt he was lying to me.

I can't entirely agree with that. MV didn't have the offers his ability warranted because Reamon made it clear you could not recruit Mike if you were recruiting Curry. Most schools cast their lot with Curry, eliminating themselves from any consideration with Mike.

Curry, along with teammates Blizzard and Hollier famously committed to UVA during Thursday night game. Only Hollier went to UVA. Blizzard prepped then went to Kentucky. I don't know if he signed with UVA. Curry never did.

How many true freshman have started in P5 programs not out if desperate need?

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Assuming we are talking QBs only here?

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Some of the big names that come to mind that were successful or notable. Some were wide open QB battles but not all and I don't recall any being due to massive injury issues ahead of them.

Jimmy Clausen - 2007*
Matt Barkley - 2009
Kyle Allen - 2014 *
Braxton Miller - 2011 *
Terrelle Pryor - 2008*
Sam Bradford - 2007

* = Did not start/play every game freshman season but played significant time.

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Clausen was the top QB his year I believe, he only started 7 games his freshmen year and did not do so well.
Barkley I'll concede him.
Allen got the job because Hill just started to regress.
Miller split time with two other QB's his freshmen year
Pryor was again the number one QB recruit

So you might find a QB who as a freshmen can play right away but unless he is a top recruit the odds are very low.

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heres my 2 cents. we all know Brewer is average at best. If the three guys (Motley,Ford,Durkin) can beat him out this year then Lawson should absolutely have a real shot at the job. So we take some lumps if he starts but then you got 2-3 years with these offensive weapons to develop with. wow.

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If he is the best then it will be great to see him on the field but I think Ford will be the one to beat out Brewer if anyone does. His 2 springs and 1 full season in the system, practices, and meetings will be a big boost to him over Lawson just in the adjustment of the speed of the game and learning to read the defenses and make the right reads.

I'm not saying Lawson can't do it, especially since Brewer essentially came into VT as a freshman as far as knowing the system but beating out guys who have been working on reading college level defensive keys will be tough. If he is the starter against tOSU I will be shocked but very excited.

If he is close but needs time, I could see him getting packages early in the season and maybe seeing a lot more time by the end of the season.

"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders via Ricky Bobby

Have you watched Lawson's film? A ton of potential, but he's not close to ready to start a Div-1A football game. Nor is he going to be in 9 months.

BTW, "WE" all don't know Brewer is average at best...

Put your Best on the Field, Your Best , not your pick ! Pick has a major problem at key positions for VT .....

Jack R.

Yeah, no it hasn't. Just no. We've had plenty of young guys start over vets.

Actually I'll agree with him. For a long time, especially during Hite's tenure, it was almost like a union shop: seniority rules. It was a pretty big shakeup in 2004 when all the young receivers for bumped up to starting roles after the NC State loss.

"And then the real chess match began." - Justin Fuente

Pickle and that two minute offense.

"I promise you I will keep getting back up as long as you keep pushing forward." -Michael Brewer
"That kid you're talking to right there, I think he played his nuts off! And you can quote me on that shit!" -Bud Foster

Slip em the pickle!!!

"And then the real chess match began." - Justin Fuente

pickle

February..'96...the steak: ribeye, the whiskey:Lagavulin 16, the lady next to me: a bit**.....

Oxendine played as a freshman, Stith, Dwayne Thomas, Suggs as well, Kevin Jones started as a true freshman, Ore played as a freshman, Darren Evans started as a r-freshman, so did Ryan Williams, David Wilson played as a freshman. Michael Holmes, Shai McKenzie, Marshawn Williams, JC Coleman, Edmunds. Almost all of them saw significant time as well. I think any favoritism was an illusion. You had to know the offense, that's all. People love to trot out Pickle but forget that he was basically a glorified fullback who was 4th on the depth chart and saw very little playing time later in the season.

Royal, Harper, Clowney, Hyman, Josh Morgan, Danny Coale, Boykin, Ford, Cam Phillips, Dyrell Roberts, Bucky, Ernest Wilford. All of them started or saw significant playing time as freshman.

Seems like plenty of freshman got playing time to me, doesn't seem to be a whole lot of folks riding the pine just because...

yeah but pickle

"I promise you I will keep getting back up as long as you keep pushing forward." -Michael Brewer
"That kid you're talking to right there, I think he played his nuts off! And you can quote me on that shit!" -Bud Foster

As stunning as it was to see live, it's almost more amazing in hindsight. You had Ryan Williams, Darren Evans and David Wilson all in uniform and on the sideline while Dustin Pickle was in the game.

yeah but pickle

"I promise you I will keep getting back up as long as you keep pushing forward." -Michael Brewer
"That kid you're talking to right there, I think he played his nuts off! And you can quote me on that shit!" -Bud Foster

There was no overlap with Pickle and David Wilson and Ryan Williams was going to redshirt regardless...

Good catch. I really thought Pickle was a Senior in 2009 A leg for you.

People love to trot out Pickle
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A picture is worth a thousand words. A gif is worth a million.

Lawson was bumped up to number 175 nationally in the newest rival rankings. Expect his 247 Composite ranking to get a major boost as well as a result of this.

In Sam Rogers we trust.

Wait a minute...

Commits to Hokies, rating goes UP????

"And then the real chess match began." - Justin Fuente

Maybe he convinced Rivals to do it? I could imagine this.

Rivals: Since you committed to Virginia Tech Dwayne, we plan on dropping you to a 3 star.

Lawson: No, you will keep me as a 4 star and bump into your nationally rankings or I will mock you during my Heisman Speech.

Rivals: Sounds like a plan.

In Sam Rogers we trust.

Hey Buzz, how do you feel about this?

"We judge ourselves by our intentions and others by their behavior" Stephen M.R. Covey

“When life knocks you down plan to land on your back, because if you can look up, you can get up, if you fall flat on your face it can kill your spirit” David Wilson

Gotta love Buzz !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

georgebd

So I was bored at work today and just wanted to do the TKP equivalent of yelling "fire" in a crowded movie theater. Enjoy!

Warning: this post occasionally contains strong language (which may be unsuitable for children), unusual humor (which may be unsuitable for adults), and advanced mathematics (which may be unsuitable for liberal-arts majors).

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

That team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I mean I've seen teams suck before, but that was the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked.

Best humor post in a long while. Made my day.

I don't even look at the titles of the articles...I just click on "new" stuff in the tracker. So I had to scroll up to see what we were talkin about

If a tree falls in Scott Stadium does it make a sound?

Seriously, you're going to freak everyone out into thinking that he could be transferring or something.

Sometimes I like to leave off the /s just to mess with people.

It's weird that 2015 doesn't seem that long ago. On a similar but unrelated note, I noticed that the most recent pirates movie (really really shitty one with mermaids) was made in 2011. I could have sworn it was more recent than that.

I swear to drunk, I'm not God

Wait, 2011 isn't recent? Crap...