Tech Tidbits: Why Justin Fuente Believes the Hokies Can Catch Clemson

Digesting how to view that Clemson loss, and breaking down Steve Addazio's bunch of dudes.

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Somewhere on Earth-27, we're all freaking out about Tech's playoff chances after a program re-defining win against Clemson — but here on this Earth we're stuck with, it's a much more familiar feeling.

If you've been a Tech fan for any period of time, the feelings of depression and/or frustration after a loss against a ranked team in a game with plenty of national attention are like old friends. I certainly expected to welcome them back after the West Virginia game, given its setting, so it's hardly a complaint to only be experiencing them now.

However, perhaps because I did get to spend the weekend in Blacksburg after acquiring a ticket at the last minute, I think there's no denying that this particular loss felt a bit different from past missteps in the Beamer era.

So, it's BC week, and there's a lot to talk about with an impending matchup against Scot Loeffler's dudes (that's a night game, for some unknown reason).

But first, indulge me a bit in looking back.

"The Wheels Are Already in Motion"

This quote from Justin Fuente is really key to understanding why so many people still feel so hopeful after the Clemson game, myself included.

I think it got lost a bit, coming on a Monday night and all, but a hat tip to Ricky LaBlue at Tech Sideline for transcribing this bit of Tech Talk Live so we can really dig into it.

The object is to win the game, but the atmosphere that came along with it, that we showed those kids, we've already won. We've already taken a huge step forward, we know that Virginia Tech is on its way back, ascending up. I told them, we're going to catch those guys. It may not be, and it wasn't Saturday night, but that's a fact. The wheels are already in motion. Those things are occurring on a daily basis, and I have never been more sure of that than I am right now, in terms of where we're going and what we're doing, and the type of people both on and off the field that came to our game and saw it, and got a chance to see what we're all about.

I'll expand on some of these sentiments a bit in a recruiting piece later this week (keep refreshing TKP until you see it and give us those pageviews!), but this is the sort of thing that will very ably console you after that Clemson loss.

It was French himself that wrote last week that "Virginia Tech, in many ways, is where Clemson was in 2011," and that is the sort of point Fuente is making here.

It's unseemly to take shots at Frank Beamer now that he's a happy retired grandpa, but there's no denying that he presided over a decline in the team's recruiting efforts in his last few years. The Hokies were never national powerhouses in that department, and even a small slip became really noticeable, particularly against a team like Clemson that's been excellent on the trail.

Fuente and company haven't created some huge change in that arena overnight, but they're getting there. And the atmosphere in Blacksburg last Saturday, as featured on ESPN first thing that morning and then in primetime, goes a huge way towards changing the perception of the program in a way we haven't seen in years.

And even with all of Tech's baked-in disadvantages against the defending national champs, the numbers from Saturday hardly look all that discouraging!

The Hokies, particularly on offense, made some boneheaded mistakes. Undoubtedly, Clemson's superior athletes (looking at you, defensive line) forced those mistakes to an extent, but they also come with youth.

Listen to Fuente — don't lose hope after this loss, because there's every reason to believe the best is yet to come.

Harold Landry, and the Offensive Line

Alright, enough Clemson, let's talk about the real most exciting team in the ACC: Boston College!

Oh, you think I'm wrong? Well, keep in mind that they have DE Harold Landry, last year's nationwide sack leader and a legitimate first round prospect!

He only has two sacks so far this year, but it is worth taking a moment to marvel at the fact that Steve Addazio's team features one of the elite defenders in all of college football. He also has elite hair game, judging by his team photo.

Considering that the Hokies struggled enormously at times on the offensive line against an elite DL, that's worth keeping an eye on. Vance Vice admitted Tuesday that the unit has "a bad taste in our mouth" following the Clemson game, and it seems as if the Eagles won't exactly provide a bunch of amateurs for the line to push around and redevelop some confidence this week.

Vice also noted that the right side of the line, as manned by Kyle Chung and Braxton Pfaff has left him "encouraged," if not "pleased" so far this year, and hinted that Parker Osterloh might still find the field this season.

That's hardly a warning that jobs are on the line, and just about everybody in the country would struggle against Clemson's defensive line, but it's also an issue worth monitoring against BC. Josh Jackson plainly suffered from a lack of time in the pocket against Clemson, and it could very well become a problem going forward.

A "Two-Headed Monster"?

Bud Foster said Tuesday he was "extremely impressed" by Loeffler in his brief time in Blacksburg, which will surely color his preparation for the Eagles' offense headed into this week.

If your eyes have not yet rolled out of your skull at that comment — the Hokies ranked 100th, 96th and 53rd in Lefty's three seasons at Tech — then let us take Bud at face value and see what the Eagles have cooking on offense.

They're only scoring 17.6 points per game, good for 118th nationwide, and it will likely come as no surprise to anyone that's followed the ACC recently that they're not slinging the ball all over the field — they're 116th nationally in passing yards per game.

Where the Eagles stand out, to Foster at least, is the run game.

BC is near the middle of the pack nationally (at 71st overall) when it comes to rush yards per game, and they have been successful with two different backs, as Foster alluded to. Junior Jon Hillman has 325 yards and two scores on 87 attempts, while freshman A.J. Dillon 298 yards and two TDs on 79 attempts.

So, if the Eagles are going to sneak up on Tech somehow in a big night game in Chestnut Hill, it sure seems as if they're a surer bet to do so on the ground than through the air. Not a shocking statement, I know, but just highlighting that not much has changed in Beantown under Addazio and Loeffler.

I leave you with a semi-regular reminder that Bud is a treasure.

Comments

We're seeing meaningful improvements in recruiting. While the 2018 class isn't signed and there are some big pieces that could be added, getting a commit from a kid like Quincy Patterson and keeping him committed is a true departure to years past.

I love the optimism in the current staff; but Mike Vick, Tyrod, Logan T. Beamer always recruited the qb position well. There were very few years we didn't have a 4star or better under center. You can throw in Sean Glennon, Marcus Vick, Dwayne Lawson in there with the highly ranked recruits as well.

Obligatory LT was recruited as a TE comment.

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Ironically, LT had to play QB because QB recruiting was so bad at the time...

He had switch because Boyd picked Clemson

This is an assumption.

Yet ironically LT actually made NFL rosters as a QB and was selected higher in the draft than Boyd - who never saw a regular season NFL roster.

It just goes to show how hard it is to become even a short-lived backup NFL QB - and how the easy decision and sell of convincing LT to be a QB was a pretty astute one.

LT was third string and cut after one year due to accuracy issues. They recruited him to see if he could be fixed, and concluded he could not. The only reason he was recruited was size (something Boyd lacked). But accuracy killed him, as it also plagued his career in Blacksburg.

It's already pointed out that Logan was a TE recruit that was converted to QB AFTER he was on campus. Mike Vick wasn't a highly regarded QB recruit and was recruited before all of these public services were available. Those services have had a huge impact on recruiting (just look at Miami's decline in So Fla).

Vick was a 4 star recruit. I'd call that fairly highly regarded.

Vick was the same VA high school class as Ronald Curry (both from the 757), who was a 5 star. So ,while Curry did overshadow him, in no way was Vick not highly regarded. He was still a Top 100 player nationally and a high 4 star. He ended up having a much more productive career in college and pro football. Infact, Curry played WR in the NFL for a few seasons.

Any scout that didn't regard Mike Vick highly, even in high school, should have been fired.

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just like steph curry

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This is nonsense about LT. The VT coaches knew they were going to put him at QB before he ever set foot on campus - they just didn't tell him. It wasn't an accident they tossed him a football early in fall camp and asked him to throw it around a little.

Coaches don't care what position recruiting services assign a player. Those are about as meaningful as college majors - many people (maybe even most) end up doing something for their career that has little or nothing to do with their freshman declared major.

Has Tyrell Smith still not started a game yet? Huge surprise based on most preseason speculations

He got hurt, and once he was healthy it is very tough to sit a 5th year senior if he is playing well unless the younger player is a significant upgrade. I can't answer the second question (I like Smith,) but Chung has played pretty well.

I think Smith will play this year. I am just not sure if it will be at right tackle, right guard, or left tackle. Nijman has not been at his best the last two weeks.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

i do like the future, i think we should see improvements each year. I think our big challenge will be that stretch from GA Tech to Miami...

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Dillon is the running back to watch out for. They have slowly handed carries to hisbas a freshman, but he was far and away their most effective player on offense against Clemson.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

Who is Dillon?

Where is Lawson?!

Well there are two answers:

1) he is a freshman running back for Boston College
2) he is a "son of a bitch" who drops a team of commandos in Mexico to battle an alien monster that hunts humans for sport.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

Smart ass...I like that. I'm going to keep my eye on you Mr. Helper.

Where is Lawson?!

I ain't got time to bleed!

"Take care of the little things and the big things will come."

- "And now Miami wants to talk about it..."

Mexico?!? What in the fu....

Come up French...you can do better.

"It stars Arnold Schwarzenegger as the leader of an elite special forces team who are on a mission to rescue hostages from guerrilla territory in Val Verde (fictional Country) in Central America's Northern Triangle"

It was filmed in Mexico, so I'll give you that.

Speaking of running backs, I really want to see Travon get freed from the dog house this week. I get the "protect the ball" thing preached by Fuente, but I thought taking him out after his fumble was a bit much. He had three guys ripping at that thing in a scrum, and he was on the ground fighting his ass off for a good 30 seconds to get the ball back. I think the lesson is learned.

He's the only inking of a home run threat the Hokies have. If Fuente does indeed want to run the ball better, Travon is the guy. McClease is scatty on the outside but can't hit the hole, and some decent touches in garbage time just haven't sold me on Coleman Fox.

Leonard. Duh.

Holston was still recovering from illness against Clemson, maybe he can work himself into a more prominent role this week. I've seen enough of everyone else, Holston at least has upside and mystery. The rest.........meh.

I get the "protect the ball" thing preached by Fuente, but I thought taking him out after his fumble was a bit much. He had three guys ripping at that thing in a scrum, and he was on the ground fighting his ass off for a good 30 seconds to get the ball back. I think the lesson is learned.

Good point! And he doesn't pull Josh out after an INT. It seems like a double standard.

Hokie in West Africa...sadly, I can't jump up and down hard enough for it to be felt in Lane

Fuente said on tech talk live that he didn't think either interception was really JJs fault, which I agree with.

First one I felt like was his fault. The pick 6, about 50-50.

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Hard to call it JJ's fault when it doinked off Murphy's hands first.

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Agreed. That pick 6 was 100% on Murphy. JJ delivered it on-time, on-target. Murphy got caught looking up-field. That was not JJ's fault at all.

Having a conversation with you is like a Martian talking to a Fungo.

#JustinTime

Just playing Devils 'It was partly JJ's fault' Advocate here... If JJ had thrown it someone else on that play, no pick 6.

Yea, maybe... but the play was a straight quick screen, not a drop back, look, look, oh wait look there's Murphy for the dump off....It's just a bummer that it happened to bobble up and not down, could've happened to any of the WR's on any play. Just happened to be on Murph this time.

Having a conversation with you is like a Martian talking to a Fungo.

#JustinTime

Yeah, but those INTs weren't necessarily JJ's fault. The Murphy pass was right in his hands, and then served on a silver platter for the pick-6. Other INTs were on freakish plays. However, it may be a double-standard when it comes to the QB position, cause usually when you pull the QB, they aren't returning, whereas when the RBs are pulled, it's designed to make them think about their mistake before re-entering the game. Unless we start a QB rotation, we're probably not going to see Fuente pull JJ because of a bonehead play.

"That man was violating a city ordinance, and I was just doing my duty to enforce it." - Mike Curtis

"..because anytime you go upside a man's head, or a woman's, they have a tendency to blink their eyes.." - Deacon Jones

Travon....I don't get it. He's a talented dude, but it seems like he doesn't put it all together. He has a history of fumbles, he misses blocks, etc. There are also times where I'd like to see him drop his shoulder an initiate contact too. I think it was in the WVU game where he ran out of bounds 1 yard short of the 1st down marker where he could have easily have initiated contact and gotten the first down.

I am not saying that he doesn't deserve to be out there (even though that fumble was a back breaker), but I wouldn't mind seeing Fox get some carries. Hopefully Holston has recovered from his illness and he can get some carries with the first team. I also like McClease, but it seems like we aren't getting him out in space.

I'm ready to ride McClease, Peoples, Holston, Fox, etc. I felt Travon didn't get the ball enough in his 1K yard year and the guy was dominant, but whether it's added bulk, injuries, not picking up the system - he looks slow and indecisive more often than not.

He caught that pop-pass and burned to the endzone against ECU, but he never hits a hole with that same speed or reckless abandon. He seems to have very little tight space quick-twitch ability, which is a shame and it takes him a long time to build up speed. Someone like Ryan Williams wasn't staight-line fast, but he had such good feet, vision, and suddenness.

Greatly miss having an elite RB which while not as important in the NFL, can still mean a lot in College.

"Dick to Hyman? DICK TO HYMAN!" - Guy in Lane Stadium crowd when Richard Johnson hit Josh Hyman on reverse pass in 2004.

Greatly miss having an elite RB which while not as important in the NFL, can still mean a lot in College.

Got it backwards imo. Elite rb's are marginalized in the NFL (fantasy implications aside) but in CFB they can carry entire offenses into elite territory.

The way that it reads, to me, you are both arguing the same point.

can still mean a lot in College.

is semantically the same as

in CFB they can carry entire offenses into elite territory.

and

having an elite RB which while not as important in the NFL

is semantically the same as

Elite rb's are marginalized in the NFL

yes, i misread his point

and some decent touches in garbage time just haven't sold me on Coleman Fox.

I wanted to see McMillan break out this past weekend like he did in the BIG games last year. Also, even though it was "garbage time", it was still against the back-ups of the current Natty Champs. That's better than a lot of div 1 first teamers. Give Fox a chance. He's been running with authority, speed and not backing down from contact.

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Agreed. And Fox is the only back we have who consistently makes the first defender miss. I'd definitely like to see him get more playing time.

I have watched Fox play in the spring game and every time since when he gets a chance, he makes the best of it and he doesn't look like a 3rd, 4th, etc etc RB! I even remember this kid in HS at Salem Virginia and he played for a blue blood program but he ran the ball and caught the ball at a very high level and played like his hair was on fire! I just don't understand why he is not getting a chance when the game matters? Unless he too is in Fuentes dog house or doesn't practice hard.

Life's short, If you dont do it, somebody else will.

Speaking of running backs, I really want to see Travon get freed from the dog house this week. I get the "protect the ball" thing preached by Fuente, but I thought taking him out after his fumble was a bit much.

I question Fuente's strategy here. From a results standpoint, I'm not sure it works... Travon still fumbles (albeit less this season) and blocks are still missed. I've said it in multiple comments over the past year, but I question this approach from a sports psychology perspective. You don't want your players living in fear of fumbling and/or losing the coach's confidence; you want them playing freely and 'doing, not thinking' so to speak.

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I agree with this, i hate the practice and think it's short sighted, but....almost every coach does it it seems.

IMO, McMillian just doesn't seem to be that much of an upgrade to our other RBs. Sure he has the best burst of speed, but only if blocking is perfect. I'm not sure his vision is as good as some of the younger guys.

In my opinion this is his biggest issue. He just doesn't seem to see the holes developing like an elite back. If the hole is where it's supposed to be, watch out. If not, he just doesn't see it early enough to exploit it. And I know this isn't really a reply to your comment, but I think if his productivity was that of an elite back we wouldn't see him benched every time he puts the ball on the ground.

I think McClease is just as fast as Travon, seems to block just as well, and hasn't had the fumbling issues (knock on wood). At this point, i'm not sure what the downside of playing him over Travon is. It's not like Travon is making people miss or breaking tackles up the middle. If there's a hole there, any decent back can hit it.

"These people are losing their minds!"

McClease has a career long run of 17 yards. Travon has run for 63, 59, 51, and 69 and has a 70 yard TD reception. I think he's clearly been the best bet to break a long play that we've had for the last 3 years.

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Fair point, though this is McClease's first year seeing the field.

"These people are losing their minds!"

McMillan is only a home run threat if he has a hole large enough to drive a truck through. Those happen maybe once or twice a season.

Otherwise his biggest asset is that if/when he can get to the second layer he often drags guys with him (and hopefully doesn't fumble). But unfortunately he often doesn't even make the first layer.

All better now!

Blue Skies

Where is Lawson?!

Somewhere on Earth-27, we're all freaking out about Tech's playoff chances after a program re-defining win against Clemson — but here on this Earth we're stuck with, it's a much more familiar feeling.

In case anyone had any doubts, for the record, we are Earth-25.

I'm in the mindset that this is C-137

Here lies It's a Stroman Jersey I Swear, surpassed in life by no one because he intercepted it.

And Alshon Smith is a terror on the D-Line!

"When you're green, you're growing. When you're ripe, you rot." -Ray Kroc

Kent State only had 1 yard passing?!

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

I know, that number seemed high to me too.

Probably got it because of a bad spot by the line judge.

Remember, sack yardage counts against the team's passing total. Clemson was leading the nation in sacks coming into this past weekend.

Ignore me, nothing to see here.

Not in NCAA. That's an NFL rule.

You're the only ones that I can talk to about this, you guys.

Damn, you're right. Forgot about that, usually when we hold opponents to negative rushing yards (and it has happened) it was because of sacks....

Just now catching up on TKP as I've been in the desert all week after the loss. Great stuff. I love Fuente's quote and feel the same way. We really can build on this and our upward trajectory angle relative to the horizontal axis is greater than it's been in a long time.

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

And I thought I took losses hard.......

This morning is the first time I've been emotionally able to get back to TKP.

It's a good thing all the Clemson stuff is buried at the bottom of the Active Discussions list on the side. If that had been on the top I probably would have left until at least friday or saturday.

I've been drinking.

In hindsight, the postgame discussions weren't really all that bad or negative.

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Been a slow morning at work. I would tend to agree. Thought it might be worse. I also don't remember the end of it for a number of different reasons, so I was pleasantly surprised yesterday when I accidentally saw that we only lost by 2 touchdowns.

I'm way more productive after Tech losses (and Bronco's losses) because I avoid the four letter and do work instead of fucking around.

I've been drinking.

I always relegate myself from society after a big loss. It's just a coincidence I had to go on business to Phoenix the day after the game.

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

Oh, I read that as "dessert" and I was going to ask, "cake or pie?"

"Our job as coaches is to influence young people's lives for the better in terms of fundamental skills, work ethic, and doing the right thing. Every now and again, a player actually has that effect on the coaching staff." Justin Fuente on Sam Rogers

CJF also said on TTL about the fake field goal: it was too close to punt, didn't trust they'd make the FG, and seemed at the time converting the fake had as much chance as converting 4th & eleven. He didn't want to settle for "at least you went for it". Added that in retrospect he was pushing it there.

(edit: if this tidbit fits better in another thread, feel free to add it to the discussion, I haven't much time to read them at the moment)

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-What we do is, if we need that extra push, you know what we do? -Put it up to fully dipped? -Fully dipped. Exactly. It's dork magic.

Definitely didn't agree with Fuente's decision there, nor the explanation. But, if that's all we're complaining about re: his decision making, then we are blessed.

-@no1hokie86

wouldn't have been 4th & 11 if we didn't run a WR Screen on 3rd and 5.. was such a confusing play call at the time.

Still not sure that wasn't a WR pass. The ball was thrown backwards so it could then be passed forwards.

I like the decision to call the fake, but that fake was clearly designed for ~3 yards. It had a 0% chance of going for 11, doubly so against a team with as much speed as Clemson

it all depends on the DL and how engaged they get in rushing the kicker. Clemson's DL wasn't caught up in a block and tracked Keene down the line.
My guess is Clemson had the fake alert in effect and held back a bit rather than going for the block.
In a more normal kicking situation (i.e. where it wasn't obvious we needed a TD) I think that play can break for big yardage. Keene had lead blocks set up in front of him play-side, and that DL came from a position that's usually trying to bust up the middle, not floating a couple yards off the LOS.

He also said the rugby punt at the beginning was expecting a block attempt, but it looked like Clemson was still leery from the ACC champ fake. Blackburn was free to boom it the rest of the game.

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-What we do is, if we need that extra push, you know what we do? -Put it up to fully dipped? -Fully dipped. Exactly. It's dork magic.

"I like the decision, but..."

In other words, you didn't like the decision.

Or in my actual words, the decision to go for it I liked, the play they used to go for it I did not

This is an aside: in that pic, Maria Taylor is really, REALLY friggin legit. Ok. Done.

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if only CJF didn't look like Forrest Gump looking up at a sky scraper for the first time...

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Just had a coffee spit take. Lol. That was hilarious.

Feel the need to point out that it was maybe more OL/ QB/ RB deficiency in Beamers later recruiting classes- DB, and DL were good. Mihota, Hill, Settle and Walker all 4 star recruits (Mihota borderline maybe).

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

We were very inconsistent in recruiting. We have those guys you mentioned but no depth behind them.

"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders via Ricky Bobby

As for why there is still optimism amongst the fans, it's simple. The high profile loses in Frank's last decade indicated and plateau and decline in the program. We're just getting started under Fuente. Nobody panicked when we lost badly to Nebraska in the 96 Orange Bowl after beating Texas in 95, because we were a program in ascendancy. The feeling that we're headed in the right direction soothes the sting of losing.

"I mean, you know, fuck them, but good for them." -Too Druck to Funk

The '96 Orange Bowl loss REALLY hurt me.

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Me too but remember Frank looked at bowl games as more of a reward not a work trip.

I am absolutely excited about CJF's future. As much as the loss this past weekend sucked to watch, it did show us that (in my watching and takeaway, YMMV) that realistically we were 3 bad plays away from going deep into the 4th quarter with arguably the best team in the nation. 3. THREE... That ain't bad folks. After sleeping a few days on it, I'd say the loss probably helped the boys learn more than a win would have. Yeah it sucked to lose, but you learn more from mistakes than successes, right? It's ONE loss. To a great team. We're on the upswing. Get ready for a great run. It's coming.

I'll say it now, Playoff/Title run in 2018. BOOK IT!

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"Look at this... This is just spectacular.... These people are losing their minds"

FREE THE "STICK IT IN" CHANT!!!

we were 3 bad plays away

Coach beamer, is that you?

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I'll give you that one... Take your leg.

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"Look at this... This is just spectacular.... These people are losing their minds"

FREE THE "STICK IT IN" CHANT!!!

Well... It's not like we were 3 bad plays, 100 yards and 10 first downs away. When some people say the score was 31-17 and it wasn't even close that's certainly one way to look at it. But we can also look at the numbers which were quit shocking to me.

Clemson   VT
1st Downs   14 17
Total Yards   332 342

3 turnovers will take those numbers and definitely turn them into a loss.

I think when Fuente looks at those numbers he feels pretty good. The turnovers are not necessarily a talent problem. The two interceptions sucked. Most other teams would not have come up with them. The Savoy INT was a great example of right place/right time and good hands. The INT on the screen pass was a purely freak play by an amazing athlete who will likely not get another like that in a long time. You pretty much have to pat your QB on the back and let him know sometimes freakish athletes do freakish things and 99.99% of the time that pass is caught or is incomplete.

So how did the Hokies compare to Clemson's other significant opponents.

Clemson   Auburn
1st Downs   18 13
Total Yards   281 117
Clemson   Louisville
1st Downs   25 21
Total Yards   613 433
Clemson   BC
1st Downs   27 12
Total Yards   482 238

In every other case Clemson WAY out-gained the other team offensively. Those BC numbers look like late Beamer era numbers... I wonder if Lefty has something to do with that... Nah... Couldn't be.

Anyway, I have been very critical of the slow starts (begin harping : Delaware and ODU : end harping) and I was critical of the play calling in this game. However, I have to admit that looking at these stats I may have been too critical. Do I think a screen pass against a defense like Clemson's is a viable play. No. Not yet. If you asked me immediately after the game if we out performed Clemson statistically I would have said no. I would have guessed we gained 250 yards.

This was a team loss. The defense gave up a couple of big plays. The offense turned over the ball and didn't break a big play. The opponent was the reigning National Champion.

By the way I totally loved the comment and gave you a leg for it. I have no idea where this post came from.