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HokieinFLA's picture HokieinFLA
| 9 months 3 weeks # | NIL lawyer goes on the attack against VT over redshirts

Now it's both Pay for Play and Pay For No Play.

I feel like I need to channel DC for just a bit.

There is no other profession (beyond being the owner or controlling executive of your own organization) where you get to continue to reap benefits and payments when no longer participating.

Professional athletes don't get this sort of treatment.

98.8% of these college football players are not good enough to play professionally. It is not the NCAA, individual Universities, nor the general public's fault that there is no compelling economic interest in semi-pro football after College. It is even less their responsibility to subsidize athletes indefinitely because they really like getting paid to play sports.

These arguments are fallacious, illogical and lack any merit.

This is the end result of years of "everyone gets a trophy" logic compounded, mutated, and taken beyond the point of sanity.

jewilso2's picture jewilso2
| 9 months 3 weeks # | NIL lawyer goes on the attack against VT over redshirts

Redshirting is a coach's decision - not the player. A player cannot self declare a red shirt year and unilaterally claim a future roster spot or fifth year scholarship.

College football players currently have more power than any other professional athlete in the world. It's ridiculous.

bar1990's picture bar1990
ATLIEN
| 9 months 3 weeks # | NIL lawyer goes on the attack against VT over redshirts

Correct... because the NCAA is a cartel (the economic definition, not the drug dealing one). The United States, it's illegal for firms to collectively monopolize like this. Other sports leagues do it because they have an antitrust exemption. The NCAA does not have an antitrust exemption. They are very careful not to call their athletes employees.

The Beard of DeChristopher's picture The Beard of DeChristopher
BEARDS > PEOPLE
| 9 months 3 weeks # | NIL lawyer goes on the attack against VT over redshirts

I was gonna type something out here but honestly just copy and paste any DCWilson Baller Industrial Complex rant here.

Everyone knew the score for decades. And now we just decided to throw all the rules out the window and this ambulance chasing opportunist bullshit is the result. That is not better.

The Beard of DeChristopher's picture The Beard of DeChristopher
BEARDS > PEOPLE
| 9 months 3 weeks # | NIL lawyer goes on the attack against VT over redshirts

I made Deans List one time in college, why aren't they still paying me a Deans List Bonus? That was 12 whole years ago I'm suing for lost wages and suing them again for not getting me a job lined up right out of school

KingJames's picture KingJames
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| 9 months 3 weeks # | NIL lawyer goes on the attack against VT over redshirts

I mean everyone else was living in the alternate reality that athlete were amatuer while playing a sport that generates millions in profits every year. That the athletes weren't employees even though they coach could dictate their major the classes they take, when they take their classes, how much time they spend at a facility, what to eat, etc. while being able to remove them from the university at anytime they wanted.

Alum07's picture Alum07
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| 9 months 3 weeks # | NIL lawyer goes on the attack against VT over redshirts

Bitter with more clarification:

Heitern characterized the decision to redshirt as "indeed my client's choice, informed by his long-term athletic and academic goals," adding, "The university seemingly interpreted my client's request as a refusal to compete further, leading to the issuance of the non-participation letter."

Well.... yeah. if the player tells the coaches he's not willing to participate in any games for the team going forward, against the coach's wishes, then yeah, he's a non-participant of the program anymore. What the fuck are we doing if these players can just decide to not fulfill their duties and still be able to collect a scholarship and a NIL payment. Holy shit, the schools have to get SOME control back here. This is fucking ridiculous.

Hokie Matt's picture Hokie Matt
| 9 months 3 weeks # | NIL lawyer goes on the attack against VT over redshirts

More accurately... we (collectively) have been loathe to admit that this isn't an amateur sport any more, and have only recently been dragged to that not-quite-yet realization by a bunch of court loses. We (some representative body of college revenue sports) needs to admit the obvious, that we're a professional sport, and go to congress to get the kinds of anti-trust and labor exemptions needed to maintain things.

Until we have the courage to abandon all pretense of amateurism, we'll keep figuring things out as we go along, applying bandaids to deep wounds.

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