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No you're absolutely right, as this is the new state of play. It was mostly pedantic on my part, and could have put the /s in the first line instead

I have to think it's more the latter. There are always more players in the portal than viable landing spots, and have to assume a lot of these kids aren't just looking for playing time at a lower level as opposed to testing the waters and seeing who will pay.

...has Pry lost the locker room?

(Or are we just a poverty school in a poverty conference /s)

PJ Fleck prefers sugar cones to waffle cones for his mid-winter treat

Good thing the portal is overflowing with decent OL....

That's four of the five line gone for next season.

Braelin Moore and Xavier Chaplin in the portal. Parker Clements and Kaden Moore graduate

Pretty good takes here.

Sucks to lose some guys, but it's possible we can find someone better in the portal or develop over the offseason.

Sums up a lot of my take on it too. These are guys where the ROI isn't matching up to likely what they want, either compensation or playing time next season. So makes sense for both sides to move on. The amount of money floating around that Chaplin was commanding is absolutely absurd given his performance. That is more than a lot of top-tier starting P4 QBs will get if those numbers are remotely accurate.

So, the two deep as of this moment (5:40 pm Eastern, 12/9) in no order, whatsoever.

QB: Kyron Drones, Pop Watson
RB: Jeremiah Coney, Tyler Mason
WR: Holloway, XTB
WR: Wiggins, Heath
WR: Greene, Fitzgerald
TE: Gosnell, Saint Germaine
OL: Ghannam, Garrett
OL: Ricard, Lynch
OL: Schick, Cunningham
OL: Hammer, Smedley
OL: Meadows,

DE: Burgos, Jo McDonald
DL: Copeland, Johnson
DL: Gilliam, Hanchuck
DE: Abbey, Dandy
LB: Woodson, Ja McDonald
LB: Keller, Johnson
LB: Spencer, Clatterbaugh
CB: Delane, Johnson
CB: Lovett, Pennix
S: Reddish, Childress
S: Fleming, Jenkins
Star: Williams

K: Love, Lowe
P: Veltsistas

Some thoughts on portal movement so far today:

1) Xavier Chaplin- I think a case study with what is wrong with the composition of the program. There is so much hand wringing about his departure, but his performance, while at times was serviceable, wasn't top tier. His footwork and effort took steps backwards as the season progressed, was constantly missing snaps because of a shoulder issue, and never was good in pass protection. The problem? The Hokies didn't have someone with higher upside in development. The OL were mostly Fuente era holdovers, and we have yet to see anyone where the relationship was established with this staff take a big leap forward. Meadows got a last second offer. Braelin had the family tie in with his brother. Then to look and only see two scholarhship takes at a position where there are rarely difference makers in the portal is very frustrating.

2) Mose Phillips- this one is a mixed bag. It is troubling because Pry made him a priority and identified him early as a part of the solution. Either it was a missed evaluation or awful coaching, because there isn't anything in his performance that would indicate he would be a huge loss. Sometimes those upside guys just never get their feet to catch up with their heads (see Hunter, Devon), but the optics aren't good.

3) Malachai Thomas- clearly lost his explosiveness and probably was a "tough conversation because of how effective Coney was in limited touches. I liked his toughness (minus the Marlowe Wax play in the Dome), but for a guy whose next season is likely his last and wants to play, a reduced role probably isn't appealing.

4) Gunner Givens- he was never going to play at VT. Physical tools, but mental toughness and williningess to take coaching were always going to be issues. I am still shocked he stayed in the program this long. Dead wood.

Hmm...Safety is looking not great.

Only guy slated to come back with significant snaps is Reddish (Alves played a bit but probably more of necessity than anything else).

We already can't defend the run and we are gonna be replacing the entire secondary...I'll go ahead and take the under on 2025

the current VT OL coach (who we hired from South Dakota) lacks a competent resume

  • He coached OL for the Cincy team that made it to the CFP
  • He coached on the OL for the 2011 Stanford team that went 12-1 and ran circles around us in the orange bowl.
  • He coached OL for a WVU that improved by 2 wins every year he was there

You can say he hasn't done a good job here or that he was a bad hire, but he basically has the best resume of any OL coach VT has had in 3 decades.

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