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Here' 247 with avg recruit rank for 2010 to now:
2010 - 28 - 87.20
2011 - 35 - 84.49
2012 - 21 - 86.46
2013 - 21 - 87.70
2014 - 28 - 85.99
2015 - 29 - 86.35
2016 - 42 - 84.85
2017 - 26 - 86.13
2018 - 24 - 87.46
2019 - 26 - 87.69
2020 - 77 - 85.31 ----OOOOF
2021 - 44 - 85.38
2022 - 36 - 86.60
2023 - 39 - 86.44
2024 - 45 - 88.14
2025 - 40 - 87.25 (ESD only)
It is also crazy how many 4 stars we would get in a single class for somw of those years
Yep, wasn't trying to argue - your timeframe just made me curious what the rankings were. I was surprised, I honestly would have thought the more consistently higher years would have come in the early and mide 00s rather than in the twilight of Beamer's career
True, he did leave open some coaches "leaving" for laterals or G5 positions and pretending he didn't encourage it.
yes, so most years. and we were better than this class in all but 2 of those years.
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1 year 7 months
# | Pry "hopeful" that coaching staff will remain intact this winter To be fair, he isn't gonna come out and say "Well fuck no, Andy, I'm firing people right after the bowl game"
"There's some good players in this class and solid evals."- Absolutely there is - but like Strength and Conditioning- every P4 school signs good players and evals. VT is not special in the weight room anymore, VT is not special with solid classes now. We need to get into the top 25 in the rankings if we want to win more games, IMO. We need big improvement in recruiting that we were supposed to get with Pry that hasn't materialized yet. Yes he is not signing 2 stars with offers from the Citadel- granted, but he needs to improve, IMO.
Kind of puts the 2016 team into a different light when you could see what an actual good offensive scheme could do with good recruiting.
Fuente could have been so good if he could have recruited worth a damn. But he couldn't be bothered to even give minimal effort, and cost him a career.
26k is average? rip to my potential 50 rating
Decided to take a look - per Rivals from 2002 -2015 (247 doesn't go back as far, and rivals only goes back to 2002)
In that time span, we were in the top 25 in recruiting 8 out of 14 years, surprisingly with 5 of those 8 years coming after 2010.
2002 - 45
2003- 27
2004 - 41
2005 - 14
2006 - 32
2007 - 29
2008 - 18
2009 - 23
2010 - 23
2011 -33
2012 - 22
2013 - 23
2014 - 25
2015 - 24
EDIT: decided to keep it going with Rivals and see where they've had us
Fuente Era
2016: 49
2017: 28
2018: 22
2019: 25
2020: 85!
2021: 43
Pry Era Begins
2022: 39
2023: 41
2024: 46
Sidenote (TRIGGER WARNING): We all remember what happened in 2020 (photo is from Jan 16 2020)
Maybe "keeping existing coaches employed" doesn't have to mean the same thing as no changes.... i.e. Hiring over top of someone or getting me on staff to be in charge of timeouts
There's some good players in this class and solid evals. Also as far as hitting positions of need we crushed it, multiple DB's WR's and hit on 3 solid LB's. Losing Outten does suck and yes the class won't be a game changer with high level talent. But it is a solid haul and continues establishing the relationships with high schools within the radius.
The one position I'm not satisfied with yet is OL. Love Stallard and Wright is solid. The rule of thumb is 3-5 OL per class though. And if it's only 3 you've better make sure those are high choice evals. After last class being 3 and the previous one already reduced to 3, I'm not elated that this class only has 2. Our record in the portal is sub par to put it lightly so I'd really hope for at least 1 more high school OL add before spring signing day
IIWII- Pry's last year as VT's coach is next year and we start all over again. He's not going to make changes coming off back to back 6-6 years and 1-12 in close games, then we will get the same results. We will be 6-6 next year or worse and he will be fired. Let's be real here. This is the definition of insanity.
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1 year 7 months
# | Pry "hopeful" that coaching staff will remain intact this winter Time for Whit to get his pink slips ready
Insert Naked Gun head slap sight gag.
I think this staff likes taking 2 a class to promote competition
2013 was the last time (per 247)
I think Brand will be a DB when it's all said and done but may the best man win
consistently from 2000-2015
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1 year 7 months
# | The march to the P2 continues - SEC and Big Ten working on exclusive scheduling agreement & take control of playoff committee I see your point. I mean if the TV providers would let me get the ACC network and not pay the money for the Big 10 and SEC networks I would. A larger percentage goes to them in the current setup which is the issue.
If there was a way to just subscribe to the ACC network separately for cheap I would do that.
ESPN is the one causing the problems so anything that gives them less revenue is good in my book. Have fun sticking to your precious SEC just be ready to face the consequences for that
How many times have we ever been in the top 25?
Yes, but recruiting in the 40's is Fuente territory. We can and should be in the top 25 IMO.
If you look at the rankings, though, we only have 19 recruits with an average of 87.25. Syracuse is at #38 but on the back of 34 commits with an 86.15 average. Our average rating puts us in the mid 30s and that is without the help of any top end guys bringing up the average. We jumped 5 spots today just by getting 1 more recruit with a 90 rating and have plenty of space for some later signees and transfers.
If the mesh point is disrupted, no option can occur.