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# | Read and React: "National Signing Day: Cavs' Mike London looks beyond high school coaches to cultivate Virginia Beach pipeline" 
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# | Read and React: "National Signing Day: Cavs' Mike London looks beyond high school coaches to cultivate Virginia Beach pipeline" When I was in school the only way a high school coach can coach a 7on7, AAU, Fall league baseball team, was if there were a couple kids on the team not from his high school. Is that still the case or has the rule fallen out?
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# | Read and React: "National Signing Day: Cavs' Mike London looks beyond high school coaches to cultivate Virginia Beach pipeline" Don't know how you can question Beamer & Co's work ethic. They want this program to get better more than anyone and they're working their tails off. They may not land some top prospects but it's not going to be due to lack of effort.
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# | Read and React: "National Signing Day: Cavs' Mike London looks beyond high school coaches to cultivate Virginia Beach pipeline" they got no plan 2 fix this
just a bunch of #2s nodding heads saying that sounds like a great plan, boss, boss you're a genius
emperor got no clothes, bro...its all most a joke
any u folk really thinking the NCAA gonna fix this? seriously?
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# | Read and React: "National Signing Day: Cavs' Mike London looks beyond high school coaches to cultivate Virginia Beach pipeline" 420 calls to land Brown Kamara and Blanding?
I'll take that each and every day of the week.
Sounds like Frank doesn't want to do the hard work of selling and converting someone who doesn't like him because of the bad attitude of one of his coaches. Worse yet it appears to be more important to save face than make a legitimate attempt at getting these kids. Hard to believe two or three years later we're still seeing this approach from VT coaches.
I thought we had left all that in the past. If you don't have a s-load of humility you shouldn't be in this game. Now you also need a s-load of pride, and a s-load of arrogance at the same time. But if you can't be humble and sell to someone you don't totally respect, without telling them that, its just plain flat out time to leave the game.
Good luck with that NCAA scenario. Declaring every 7v7 coach a booster, every athletic performance coach a booster. BOOM! DONE! Seriously? Scary that anyone says this stuff .... even if you work for the guy and have to agree with him at work... this is a message board where you can be honest and just say... NEVER GONNA HAPPEN!!!
Have seen tapes of this guy working with young QBs. Might not respect the motherf-er, but you know what. He probably beat the guy we had before Scot L. BOOM! All you have to do is read some LT3 articles to see that is not far from the truth. But keep alienating the next generation of beach QB. Its not the smart thing to do, but you Beamer boys gotta have your pride.
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# | Read and React: "National Signing Day: Cavs' Mike London looks beyond high school coaches to cultivate Virginia Beach pipeline" I guess. Just cause a guy lives in his car doesn't mean much to me about how the guy is valued as a coach and/or an advisor. If that guy was the best my kid could afford but he gave my kid free sprinting strength training lessons, etc, that guy might be viewed as incredibly valueable if he delivered for my kid. Someone walking in then saying this guy sucks or isn't a good coach, yada yada yada, ... well that wouldn't help them recruit my kid lets put it that way. In fact that guy with the big mouth will get grin f***ed and dropped last minute as a show of respect for the guy who was there for my kid.
Relationships are relationships and you can respect them and work around them or get torched by them. Sounds like we got torched and continue to do so. Ironically I have to imagine Cornell would do better on his own down there.
I can't tell you how many "legit coaches" I've seen make their name on the back of a "coach" that noone respected. Except the kids who will tell you the reason why they won nationals was this kids father. He might not have been a coach but he was a better more motivated and more motivating coach for the kids than the "professionals".
It hurts if you dedicate your life to the profession and a guys father is better than you. But you can accept it and move on or whine like a baby which it seems like we have.
We're probably saying similar things. I'm probably way more critical of the way Beamer and co are continuing to handle this.
Disagree here. If a top recruit doesn't go here I'd rather them go to UGA (fan by birth) or to another ACC school. The better our competition gets, the better we are forced to get.
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# | Bitter blog - Recruiting swoon in 2010, '11 catching up to Hokies; VT gets walk-on kicker commitment from Blacksburg Get rid of Shane Beamer and recruiting optimism will return.
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This isn't something I've heard before (or not presented this way, anyhow). Typical Bitter Blog Troll?
They're like the Internet...
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# | Read and React: "National Signing Day: Cavs' Mike London looks beyond high school coaches to cultivate Virginia Beach pipeline" Personally I think the on the field results prove that this doesn't matter one bit. If a five star or top rates recruit wants to go to UVA and waste his talent then let him. They have 6 wins over the last couple years and haven't beat us. Ill take kids that want to work hard and win over a kid that wants to get paid to play. That's why we are blue collar and they wear ascots.
Or just wrapped in bacon, blue collar style!
(i agree with you. That would be awesome)
One of these days, I hope a prospect signals his commitment to VT by having a Turkey Leg brought out on a silver platter!
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# | Read and React: "National Signing Day: Cavs' Mike London looks beyond high school coaches to cultivate Virginia Beach pipeline" Personally, I think that Beamer&Co. need to take a similar approach to how VT does our other business. I'm sure 7v7 coaches run the spectrum just like HS coaches, players, parents, and people. Some are great stand-up guys. Some are sleaze looking for a big payday. Just by seeing how the VB 7v7 coaches have conducted themselves online and in interviews, seems like they're not much of the type we would want in our program BUT if there is a strong, clean (relative term in 7v7/AAU I guess) program with talented players in it, I think our coaches need to grab a hardhat and build some bridges.
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# | Read and React: "National Signing Day: Cavs' Mike London looks beyond high school coaches to cultivate Virginia Beach pipeline" same thing will happen if O'Bannon case is found for the players. Kids will only go to schools that can "pay" them the most money.
With 7-on-7 you have a for profit influence on these kids who are going into a not-for-profit industry. What that means is someone is getting paid. I don't care how much the Shitbird's coaches say it is about respect, they are in this for the money. They want influence with a university to turn that into a profit. That's why they demand that university coaches go through them. London and LOLUVA are basically their bitch now because they want that pipeline.
So i agree with Frank and VT. Fuck that.
All this does bring up an interesting questions that goes back to previous threads about the NCAA. Cutler and these coaches are actively directing kids to a singular school at most, and away from a singular school at least. Cutler's douchebag kid and many of their players committed to LOLUVA. Cutler and the other Shitbird coaches are not high school employees. Therefore are they boosters?
By the very broad and loose definitions of what constitute a booster I think the NCAA could argue yes. And this has been going on for YEARS. If the NCAA had balls and well, let's face it, intelligence to do so they could come down so hard on this and make and example. They don't need to prove that LOLUVA gave the coaches anything, just qualify that Cutler and the other coaches constitute a booster. Done.
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# | Read and React: "National Signing Day: Cavs' Mike London looks beyond high school coaches to cultivate Virginia Beach pipeline" All this started before Stiney went back to the beach. These guys are in bed with London. To say they have their players best interests at heart is laughable considering London is on his last chance at UVa. As I recall, some of these 7 on 7 teams suddenly have practices or a game pop up on their schedule when we have big recruiting weekends like our junior day or during our summer camps.
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# | Read and React: "National Signing Day: Cavs' Mike London looks beyond high school coaches to cultivate Virginia Beach pipeline" I wish there would've been more comment from Coach Moore. Citing 'outside influences' as a reason for resigning sounds to me like there's a clique that develops among the 'elite' players that go from 7 on 7 to high school ball. Seems to me like you'd foster a culture of entitlement or at the least a 'me-first' attitude. I imagine a scenario where player gets a lap or up-downs on the high school practice field and the then complains to 7 on 7 coach about it. 7 on 7 coach gets in the ear of high school coach and says something like 'my guy doesn't need your team, he can star on mine and I'll get him into a I-A program without you.' If high school coach caves, he's opened the door for future, worse interference. If he doesn't, he's got a bad apple that is at best counter to building a strong team ethic.
and if you have 15 men at the line like Wisconsin and knock over defenders with the likes of those running backs, who needs to recruit wide receivers anywho?
jk. i know we need wide receivers.
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# | Read and React: "National Signing Day: Cavs' Mike London looks beyond high school coaches to cultivate Virginia Beach pipeline" If you don't win games, your chances of sitting down with an NFL team go down drastically as well.
"Experts" on 24/7 were also saying we were out on Isaiah McKenzie, I'm not saying its not true, I am just saying that its not set in stone.
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# | Read and React: "National Signing Day: Cavs' Mike London looks beyond high school coaches to cultivate Virginia Beach pipeline" My thoughts:
1. Further proves my point that London is a terrible recruiter. Just lucky to have 1 connection with extremely powerful influence over a talented group of athletes.
2. This Thoroughbred connection with UVA won't last forever... They still have some good players on their roster, including some likely 4-star players for the class of 2015. But, how long will Mike London be coaching? How long will it take for players to see the writing on the wall? (Eli Harold already has been quoted with some strong anti-UVA quotes)
3. Poor kids. I feel like they were completely misguided and blinded by selfish men with vendetta-like agendas.
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If they're not part of the high school program and they get more than 1 phone call a day from the university and deliver kids reliably to the university, why is that not boosterism?