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That could have something to do with the defense being significantly better this season.

I would just like to say that I agree with you and the OP. And because I am still a current student and a member of the generation you speak of, I see your description carried out everyday. It's an evident truth that can be applied to much more than just football. That being said, we clearly have a lot to work on and the coaches and players are not blameless, but the manner in which we conduct ourselves will always be most important. I get frustrated sometimes like everybody else, but I will never turn my back on this team.

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Upvote in case anyone DOES downvote inappropriately.

I believe this is a part of the new America in which we live, and we've been spoiled as fans over the past decade of 10 win seasons and 20+ years of bowl appearances.

I think what takes it too far is not seeing the difference between being disappointed (as in "Why the hell did he make that throw? Who makes that throw?") and the fanaticism that takes it too far (such as the death threats on Journell). We, as Hokies should be able to be disappointed, particularly in the moment, but should remember to be level headed, and we see it on TKP.

I for one will never call into question the ability of LT to play great at QB, we've seen him do it. I will never call into question the ability of the coaches to do their jobs as the positive is overwhelming, and every team has ups and downs. For me, I'm not disappointed that we're losing because it really affects me, I'm disappointed because I know our team can do better, and when they don't live up to it, we get a lot of flack from others. When we lose, Beamer doesn't have the opportunity to get that NC that he deserves and what would top off his stellar career. That makes me upset and disappointed more than anything about losing. Any true Hokie should feel the same.

Here is a stat for you:

LT, in the '12 and '13 seasons to date, he has thrown a total of 28 INT's. Of the 38, 13 have been between VT's own 20 - 39 yard line.

'12 - 7 out of 16 INT's were thrown when VT was in between their own 20 and 39 yard line.
'13 - 6 out of 12 INT's were thrown in the same field position.

Logan is a hard worker - he will make better decisions and it will start this weekened. GO HOKIES

finally some small recognition in lieu of the Marshall video contest debacle. I'm sure Roth watches all your videos but I wonder if that Chris guy tipped Roth to it. Well done Dozer

Danny Coale may have been a walk on but he was a FOOTBALL PLAYER! He was always open and caught anything near him - and yes Big 10 replay officials - HE CAUGHT THAT ONE TOO!!!

You know what, for the most part I agree with what you post and generally stay out of 'controversial' posts but I have to comment on this. When I first started reading this topic I took it as a 'feel good' topic and was happy with it. Your post was great until the last sentence, IMHO that just regulated it to the 'oh not again' category. I'm not down voting you for it but just wanted to state my personal feelings on why I think some of the topics on this board start going downhill. Just let it go, every new topic does not need to be a personal thing between individuals.

As ridiculous as our D has been this year (most of the time), that's one thing we haven't done much of on D. Sure we get a lot of sack, and a lot of interceptions, but we haven't scored on Defense this year, just forced the turnovers. When the O makes no points on those turnovers, it hurts the D. So, they need to get in their head to step it up even more...pick sixes, fumble recoveries for TD, safeties...all that will ease the pressure on O.

Bring it on!

Lol, a down vote for being optimistic? Some people are having a bad two weeks.

I am one of the biggest critics of Logan; however, I will be the first to admit that it's not in any way entirely his fault. Let me be clear, terrible decision making with interceptions or over thrown passes, or running up the middle when the line is flooded with bodies has been a horrible habit for him when the ball is snapped for 1.5 seasons. I will give him credit on his run game with power running, determination to drive forward after contact; he is great at that. Maybe it is developing WR talent through coaching from Moorehead, maybe Logan can be a stronger leader on the field. When Logan is on - he's on. When he is off - dear Jesus is he off! There's, it seems, no in between with him. Questionable play calling by ST is there as well.

Yeah, didn't mean to say any Hokie was unwelcome but I don't jive with people calling each other names for disagreeing with each others opinions.

Thank you - I agree 110%.

On another board, I'm currently blocking at least 1/3 of the posters for the negative and downright hateful comments they've made about Tech players, coaches, recruiting, the empty trophy case, and the program in general. This very vocal minority of posters are at their worst when Tech loses, and they've certainly been in their element the last couple of years. It seems they almost try to outdo each other for who can make the most negative post - fire this coach, bench that player, we'll never be competitive again, and so on. If you actually have the nerve to post a positive, supporting comment about any player or coach - look out! You're now an O&M "homer" of the worst magnitude!

I've been a fan of Tech football since 1967 (attended Tech from 1969-1976), and this is the absolute worst, me-first, instant gratification, juvenile, whiny bunch of Tech "fans" to whom I've ever had the displeasure of knowing. I have no doubt I'll find this post downvoted by at least one of a certain small group of posters on THIS board infected by the growing negativism on other boards.

Totally agree here and it is a shame that your family had to experience that during your time on campus. VT fans should know better. However, one thing that is tough to accept is the length of time it took Beamer to make changes, which directly influenced a recruiting drought (at some significant positions) that happened from around 2010-2011/12. Now, regardless, that is in the past and all we can do is hope things change for the better over time. I think we have already seen an upswing in (paper) recruiting. Still, It is no coincidence, based on past inconsistencies in recruiting and coaching, that we are seeing some of the struggles unfold in game situations with VT's offensive and special teams play. We can no longer suprise people on ST as others in the game have caught on, and we lack elite depth to perform well on special teams. Furthermore, Logan may not be anywhere close to a consistent, developed quarterback (yet), but he has shown flashes/progress and the casual fan should recognize that he, as a collegiate athlete, should not be publicly shamed. Furthermore, it would be nice if Hokie nation understood these things and that there are a host of other factors influencing the poor offensive execution/turnovers. How we handle ourselves moving forward will say a lot about who we are as fans.

If executed properly, maroon turf could be pretty B.A. Something about being painted with the blood of our enemies. I like it.

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