More ACC Expansion: Notre Dame and UConn
Announced this morning on ESPN was Notre Dame wanting to be a part of the ACC over the Big 10, and UConn wanting to be a part of the best basketball conference in the country. If both of these schools join, the money brought in would be ridiculous, but is it the best move for the conference? Notre Dame would certainly benefit, as would UConn, and I think the ACC would as well. The recruits for football would get better with the inclusion of Notre Dame, and the basketball recuits, already at a high level, will increase even further with the addition of UConn along with Pitt and Syracuse. The ACC is not what it was a few years ago; it is moving forward into the pioneer world of superconferences instead of staying stagnant.
What do you all think of Notre Dame and UConn?
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I love the idea of Notre Dame #
I love the idea of Notre Dame in the Atlantic Coast Conference because of the storied tradition and the fact that they have expressed an openly positive view concerning joining the Conference. I think that the inclusion of ND IN ALL SPORTS would be the biggest deal or steal of the entire expansion process across the board, particularly since the BIG has tried for decades to get ND in and they have pretty much said, "No thanks. We like being Independent in football and the association with the BIG EAST in every other sport". Though the ACC would still lag behind the SEC in football, Notre Dame's addition would propel the ACC to the level just behind it and would gain even further national and recruiting exposure. Let's also not forget the ND basketball program is solid and would only help the ACC's Basketball rep and give it another potential annual NCAA Tournament slot.
Connecticut worries me somewhat. Academically, ideologically and in basketball they are a perfect and welcome fit in the conference but what about football? Yes they are the defending Big East Champion and yes they have appeared in a BCS bowl but can they recruit to compete with the current ACC teams and ever represent their division in an ACC Championship Game? Personally I think they could and eventually would but it would take quite a while and wouldn't provide the immediate football impact the conference needs to solidify itself as a viable National Championship producing Conference. For me, though I know it will not happen after today's events and rejections, I wish Swofford would get West Virginia or Texas along with Notre Dame and call it a day. In terms of WVU, make an exception to the stringent academic standards or provide incentives such as higher profit sharing if academic standing is improved. Let's be frank- their inclusion and interaction with the other members would grant tons of research and cooperative opportunities only few other conferences could provide. A natural byproduct would be the enhancing of their reputation and standards. I know it sounds like I am saying pay them to improve- why not? Its not like its not already being done on one level or another throughout this entire process.
One final thought as to alignment- don't create pods. Have eight teams in each division, remove a non-conference game and make it a division game while keeping two non-division games making it an even 12 for the season (7 division games, 2 non-division games, 3 OOC games) plus the ACC Championship Game in a rotating location (Miami, Charlotte, DC, Philadelphia and New York (Yankee Stadium or Citi Field)/New Jersey (MetLife Stadium)). In reality, one game is added and one of two open dates disappears. Also add the teams into the current division format. Put Pitt and ND in the Atlantic to keep the Catholic Schools/traditional rivalries together and Syracuse and WVU/Texas/UConn/Rutgers in the Coastal. Preserve the current rivalries at the expense of the geographic malarkey. As a VT fan I don't want to play Maryland or Pitt while losing Miami and Georgia Tech on an annual basis.
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Penn State #
PSU fans seem interested in bolting for the ACC. It makes sense for them in all areas (recruiting, alumni base, travel, rivals) except for TV money. PSU has no rivals in the B1G, but they have rivalries or could easily develop them with Pitt/Maryland/VT. PSU is an eastern school, not a midwestern, and they generally recruit the same way. If the ACC somehow could bring in Notre Dame and Penn State, I'm sure the ACC TV deal would get reworked for A-L-O-T more money. All signs point to a move to the ACC (if ND is also coming). It would create a hell of a conference.
I keep seeing this as well #
I keep seeing this as well but I just can't see Penn State leaving the BIG for essentially the exact same situation in the ACC. Their chances of winning the ACC, at least in my opinion which has been wrong before and will be wrong again, are essentially the same or a little better than the BIG (or BI6...whatever that conference name is). In another view it would definitely enhance their basketball program if they moved here and would add legitimacy to the ACC as a football conference. I think it would be cool to a certain extent to play PSU and have the two winningest coaches in FBS go at it at least once before JoePa and Frank hang 'em up (though I don't think JoePa will ever retire...seriously Frank may retire first).
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Big East Committed to Staying together. (Or Not) #
It seems like a bunch of spin from Marinatto considering Uconn wasn't at yesterday's meeting.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/story/_/id/6998720/commissioner-john-marinat...
As bad as it sounds, killing the Big East has to be Swofford's goal if the ACC wants to land Notre Dame. I wouldn't be surprised if sometime in the not so distant future the league announces one more Big East team will join, Uconn or Rutgers, and the ACC dangles the instability of the Big East and the final spot in the ACC out like a carrot to see who bites.
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Don't disagree, but.. #
I think they're holding out two carrots.
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Agreed. Its all postulating #
Agreed. Its all postulating at this point. If Notre Dame gets an attractive offer from the ACC or BIG (which they have stated they prefer the ACC to the BIG) where they can keep much of the revenue generated by the NBC contract then they're as gone as Pitt and Syracuse.
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