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Bumped to the front. Leaving the stadium I mumbled I was done with neutral site games, but I know I'll be at the next BCS game, and in Atlanta next year. I think Vince sums up how a lot of HokieNation feels in his piece. --Joe

Over the last 13 years I have travelled with the Hokies to 10 neutral site games: 5 bowl games and 5 regular season games. All ten times the Hokies came away with loss. That's 3 Sugar Bowls (Florida State, Auburn, Michigan), 1 Orange Bowl (Kansas), and 1 Chick-fil-A Bowl (Georgia). That's also 3 trips to FedEx Field (Southern Cal, Boise State, Cincinnati), 1 trip to Charlotte (East Carolina), and 1 trip to Atlanta (Alabama).

After the Alabama loss in 2009, I semi-jokingly made claims that I'd never to go to a neutral site game again. At that point Tech was 0-7 at neutral site games I attended, so I figured I must be bad luck. However, the environment in Atlanta for the Chick-fil-A Kick-off game was incredible, and it was well worth the trip despite the loss. Fast forward one year, and there I am - entering FedEx Field for the second time to see the Hokies play there. After a solid afternoon of tailgating, and with the optimism that Tech would break the string of neutral site losses in my presence against a notable foe, I was fired up. The loss to Boise State was one of the most crushing defeats I have ever experienced. Just before leaving my seat after the game, I threw my hat on the floor in disgust and left it there. After that game, I swore up and down that I'd never go to a neutral site game again.

When I received my bowl game ticket order form the Virginia Tech Ticket Office later that season and again in 2011, I stuck to my guns and trashed it. However, my stance had softened ever so slightly. While I told people that I wasn't going to a neutral site game again, there was one notable exception: the Sugar Bowl. There is something special about New Orleans, and that's why I showed up in French Quarter to kick off the new year. That's why I stepped foot in the Superdome for the 2012 Sugar Bowl. Again, I was optimistic that this would be the time that my neutral site streak would final end. Well, we all know how that ended.

At this point you're probably wondering why in the hell I showed up at FedEx Field this past Saturday.

Because of you - you're the reason why I showed up.

You, my fellow Hokies. You, the folks I've met through Twitter and through this site. You, my friends who live in the DC Metro area.

To be honest, I really didn't give much of a damn about going to the game. I've been to FedEx before, and I have experienced the disaster that it is. I've seen some good football there, and I've had my football-heart broken there as well. I really was not interested in attending the game. What I was interested in was catching up with a good friend of mine who lives in Alexandria, and catching up with as many fine Hokies as I could. I knew tickets would be cheap (I ended up paying $20 for my ticket - which was probably too much), so actually witnessing the game in person was secondary. And, in spite of the loss, the trip was worth it. Outside of the 60 minutes of football played versus Cincinnati, I had a pretty fun weekend.

But let's think about this for a second. I have been watching Hokie football since the fall of 1997 (my freshman year at Tech). I am a fan in every sense of the word: a maroon VT rug sits in my foyer, a piece of Hokie Stone sits in my front yard, I have had season tickets through the Hokie Club since for the last 8 seasons, and I frequently go back for basketball games in addition to football games. If you asked my friends who is the most dedicated Hokie they know - they'd probably say it was me. The fact that going to the game didn't really interest me should speak volumes.

I'm not dumb enough to think that my presence at these games impacts the outcome. It is not superstition that drives my indifference to actually attending these events. The fact that we lose them is what feeds my apathy towards them. Since I've been following Virginia Tech football as a faithful fan (1997-present), the Hokies are 6-9 in bowl games, 3-2 in ACC Championship Games, and 0-5 in neutral site regular season games. That's a combined 9-16 at neutral fields.

For a program that wants to include itself among the college football elite, a 0.360 winning percentage at neutral sites over the last 15 years is downright abysmal.

I have said it before, but I'll say it again: Virginia Tech has been the best good football program in the FBS. We've been at the top of the tier just below the elite programs. It's not a terrible place to be, but I feel that it has bred complacency. We've had countless 10-win seasons, which is an affirmation that what we're doing is successful. But the trends are there. We really haven't had a marquee win in a while, yet we have had some losses that have been marquee wins for others.

I don't know what's next for us, but I do know something has to change in order for the Hokies to finally win a coveted national championship. If we keep doing what we're doing, we're going to win most of our games, lose games we should not, and win some ACC Championships. For a program that has an empty trophy case for the crystal football, that cannot be accepted as good enough. I fear that it's going to require a bad season in order for the necessary changes to come about. Beamer and company are OK with the status quo because it's largely been successful (8 straight 10-win seasons and a really long bowl streak), but it is obvious to me that the status quo will not get them what we desire: a national championship.

Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying I want a regime change. What I do want is a team that is well prepared, plays smash mouth football, and is capable of beating the best-of-the-best.

In the meantime, I'll continue to make my trips to Lane, I'll probably go to Atlanta next year to watch us lose to Bama, and I'll definitely make road trips that are affordable and fun. However, you will not see me at a bowl game for a while.

Unless it is in New Orleans.

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Road Games

Just to throw this out there as an addendum: VT is 12-1 at true road games that I've attended. Wins include Clemson, Duke x 3, GT x 2, UMD, UNC, UVA x 2, WF x 2; the sole loss was at LSU in 2007. All of the wins were ACC games.

So that means I have never witnessed Tech beat a non-conference opponent outside of Lane Stadium.

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love this post. the hokie community is what makes this all so great and worthwhile.

The only...

I have been to four neutral site wins: 1998 Music City Bowl (all I remember was that it was freaking cold -- I was 7), the 2001 Gator Bowl, where we handed it to Clemson, the 2007 ACC Championship in Jacksonville and the 2010 ACC Championship vs. FSU. I have been to FedEx twice for USC and Boise, been to Atlanta for Bama (and will be headed back next year), been to Charlotte for ECU, and went to New Orleans for the Sugar Bowl. As much as I have hated to see us lose all of those big games (believe me, I take losses by our team way too personally) I still go because of the experience and the undying loyalty to a school I love. Maybe we can win one of those big games, and hopefully sooner than later.

Brooks Aker

I'm right there with you. I've been to the same 3 losing Sugar Bowls, a losing Gator Bowl against FSU, a losing trip to Baton Rouge, and now 3 losing trips to FedEx Field.

I was also not terribly excited about going to the game this past weekend. I mainly went for two reasons - to see friends that I don't get to see often, and I wanted to go to a game since I may not get to Blacksburg this year.

FedEx Field was the same hell hole it always is (seriously, go to a Nats game to see what a good stadium experience is like), but it was good catching up with old friends.

Like most people on here, I care too much about this team. I firmly believe that Virginia Tech is capable of getting back to, and winning, the national championship. But even in the down years, I will continue to yell just as loud, get way too excited about the wins, and way too depressed by the losses.

And I also never need an excuse to go back to New Orleans.

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Thank you, Hokie V

That is perhaps the most incredible loss record for attending neutral site games out there. I'm lucky enough that I attended the 2010 game in Charlotte and experienced a win--my only one and I'm not far behind you in the loss category.

I would hate to see Frank churn out 7, 8, 9 or even 10 win seasons over the next few years and then bow out. We've all prayed for Stinespring to go and accepted our fate that Frank would have done it by now so we must accept it as fans and hope for the best. Folks, this is going to be the worst season since 92-93, and it took a lot of suffering in order for the team to turn around in 93-94 to position itself for its first sugarbowl win the following year. Buckle up and get ready for our first SUB 8 WIN SEASON in 20 years.....and pray that after this season, Frank has a sit down with his offensive staff and tells them the decision he has no choice to make. I want Frank around for 5 or more years and I believe he is capable of running the program and I'd like to see him finish off by hiring the best offensive minds that are for hire before he goes.

I don't know what a hokie is, but God is one of them."
-Lee Corso

Awesome

Great post HokieV.

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I'm there with you

Given VT's neutral site record, it is unlikely that most have had an experience that is all that different. In many respects I've started to treat many of the games like you did this past weekend. I focus on the experience of the trip and having a great time with family and friends. Since my freshman year ('97 also), in the neutral site games I've attended VT is 3-9 with the wins being:

2000 Gator Bowl
2008 ACC Championship Game
2010 ACC Championship Game

and the losses being:

1999 National Championship
2004 USC game at FedEx
2005 Sugar Bowl
2008 ECU game in Charlotte
2009 Bama game in Atlanta
2010 Boise St game at FedEx
2011 Orange Bowl
2011 ACC Championship Game
2012 Sugar Bowl

I must say that considering the records some have witnessed I should be really thankful for that record but I may just start going to road games where VT has fared much better in my attendance and don't put up as many head-scratching performances.

"Neutral Site"

I don't like to admit this but it is true

Fed Ex may be a neutral site but the Hokies have a huge advantage over the other teams that they play there. More fans, easier travel, no time zone change, and they get Enter Sandman (which while I love, but feel like it should only be played at Lane Stadium).

good post

I myself am undefeated in lane, and undefeated on the road.

Neutral site games (0-4)
04 USC
06 Chick fil A Disaster
08 ECU in charlotte
09 Bama atlanta

3-0 in away games, y'all! 2010 at UNC and twice at Rutgers in 99 and 03.

You bet your ass i'll be in the ATL for 'bama!

VT-UVA falls on my birthday weekend every year. I'm always given a nice gift.

Tyrod did it Mikey! Tyrod did it!

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