
I love Virginia Tech football, more than just about anything else on the planet. It's an unhealthy obsession, one that keeps me up late at night watching old games on YouTube. I've watched every snap of every game of 2012 at least four times. Odds are it's probably closer to twice that number (shout-out to Billdozer). I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell football.
On Saturday night I did what is required of all the Hokie faithful, and made my pilgrimage to the holiest of holies. Lane Stadium. That cathedral was as beautiful last night as it was the day it was built. Sitting in our pews, I, along with hundreds of my brothers and sisters, watched the priests of our religion perform the most sacred of acts. Tackle football...
It was supposed to rain. Thunderstorm actually. I was half expecting the practice/scrimmage to be cancelled. I didn't have an umbrella so I stole a North Face jacket from a friend and decided against bringing a notepad that was just going to get soaked. Sitting in the pouring rain and dodging lightning strikes, but missing the first public football exhibition with the new freshmen of the '13 class simply wasn't a possibility.
The storm, like the run game, never did show up.
WE TALKIN' 'BOUT PRACTICE
The first thing I noticed was the new video board. It's beautiful. The thing is huge, way bigger than the old board. It's a pretty striking feature of the stadium now, and it's a shame that it took that long to get one in place.
The night started off with a full practice followed by the scrimmage (featuring those low on the depth chart). Without a doubt, I learned more about where the team is at right now from the practice than the scrimmage. The secondary was having their position drills directly in front of my seat which allowed me to get a great view of two of the defenses most promising freshman, Kendall Fuller and Brandon Facyson.
Kendall is CLEARLY an exceptional athlete, maybe the best in that position already. He makes everything look smooth and easy, and just exudes the casual confidence that all great athletes have when in their element.
Facyson, in my opinion, wasn't as impressive in the "athletic" drills as Fuller was, but later in practice when he was lined up across from a receiver he more than held his own. He clearly belonged. Facyson showed off a closing speed during passing drills that wasn't as evident during position drills. Kid is just a gamer. The future of the Torrian Gray's secondary is very bright and coaches all across the country should be jealous of the opportunity he has to coach them up for the next four (if they stay in school that long) years.
One player that really surprised me was Donovan Riley. I'm not sure how he'll do in a game (where he'll be required to provide run support) but Riley can hold his own in coverage, and might have the best ball skills at the cornerback position for Tech. He made plays all day during the spring scrimmage, and during practice last night he kept it up. Riley will be on the field this season, and I expect he'll start at some point in his career.
Maybe the best moment of the whole night was when Kendall and Kyle faced off in the secondary's version of the T-drill. The secondary split into two groups lined up ten yards apart. One player had the ball and tried to run through the teammate facing him. This drill occurred right in front of the West stands and it had everyone's attention. At the end (not sure if by design or sheer luck) Kyle and Kendall squared up. Everyone in the stands saw and recognized the match up (Hokie fans are probably the smartest in the ACC), shouted encouragement, and held their breath. The following collision was the largest of the drill. When the dust settled, Kyle had stopped Kendall dead in his tracks. Little bro isn't quite as physical as his brother (the best open field tackler in the country at his position), but he also isn't far off.
I eventually tore my eyes away from the secondary to watch the o-line vs d-line drills. First impressions? Dadi Nicolas is going to start. I love J.R. Collins, but Nicolas is an absolute monster when pass rushing. Unblockable at times. In a one-on-one drill, he faked an outside move and then cut inside. The move was so athletic he looked like a WR running a sharp route, and the lineman straight whiffed. In a one-on-one drill, Nicolas made a scholarship offensive linemen block nothing but air. It was awesome.
Jonathan McLaughlin looked like a starting left tackle. He's big, he's strong, and he moves pretty well. In the one-on-one's, he looked as good as anyone. I expect we'll see him run out with the rest of the offense in the Georgia Dome.
Of all the units, I probably learned more about the WR's than any other. They have a ton of potential, but boy do they drop a lot of balls. I mean a lot of balls. On one play a receiver (I believe Demitri Knowles) threw a double move at Kyle Fuller. Fuller jumped the underneath route which allowed Knowles to blow right past him. The QB threw a nice ball which hit Knowles right in the hands in the endzone for what should have been a 30+ yard touchdown catch. Knowles straight dropped it.
However, I walked away from the practice feeling much better about the WR's then I did before. The WR situation reminds me a lot of the time Jarrett Boykin, Danny Coale, and Dyrell Roberts were all starting as freshmen. The talent is clearly there, but they need more experience in order to play more consistently.
Joshua Stanford runs really sharp routes. Of all the WR's, he comes out of his breaks the cleanest and quickest and when you combine that with his reliable hands, I expect him to have a lot of success as a Hokie. If D.J. Coles struggles with injuries this season, don't be surprised if Stanford leads the team in receptions.
Despite his atrocious drop early in practice, Knowles still showed why he's the number one Flanker on the depth chart. The kid can fly. His route running isn't as precise as Stanford's, but Knowles can get away with it because of the vertical threat he poses. Loeffler's play-action game is really strong. He does a great job at finding ways to isolate his WR's against single CB coverage. When he finds himself in these matchups, Knowles can run past almost anyone who doesn't approach the situation cautiously enough. If the CB does give him a large enough cushion and gets his hips turned in time to run with Knowles, Demitri's routes are good enough to get into a break and catch the ball in front of the CB.
The lack of plays that D.J. Coles made in the 7-on-7 and mini-scrimmage during practice was disappointing. I'm not sure if he's just a little hobbled right now or if Loeffler wasn't interested in showing too much in public, but the "matchup nightmare" that moving Coles closer to the ball was supposed to create didn't seem to manifest itself. Don't get me wrong, if I had to bet I'd say that D.J. Coles will be the leading receiver. I just wish that the number one split end on the depth chart would have looked a little more... number oneish.
My new favorite Hokie is Carlis Parker. This guy... he's special. Really special. I admit that I rolled my eyes a little when Frank Beamer said that Parker reminded him of Michael Vick, but there's a reason Beamer is a living legend and I'm not. Parker is the best overall athlete at the WR position, and might be the best on the whole team. Parker has lots of speed, but that's not the real reason he looked great. He just has a knack for getting open. Parker's got a great competitive spirit too. He does a great job at fighting for the ball when it's in the air. He already has a good idea of how to use your body to "box out" a defender and it allows him to play bigger and stronger than his already impressive frame is. I really, really, really like him.
There's been a lot of chatter recently about Deon Newsome making some moves at the WR position. I'll be honest, I didn't see a future star when watching Newsome. When I look at young players and try to predict how much potential they have, all I'm looking for is whether they have something about them that is "special". Whether they have something distinctive about them. Stanford does a great job coming out of his cuts. Dadi Nicolas is a nightmare in passing situations. Kendall Fuller made everything look so... easy. When watching Newsome I didn't see anything in particular that made me go "wow". He wasn't bad, he didn't drop any passess, he ran solid routes... I was just hoping to see a little more sizzle with that steak.
Chris Mangus made the move to WR recently, and he had a really good moment during the scrimmage where he lined up in the slot caught the ball on a flare screen. He ran right past the first defender (who had the angle on him) then cut back against the grain to pick up some more yardage. The cut looked great in person. Mangus is definitely a playmaker with the ball in his hands, but I suspect that Loeffler will struggle to find ways to get it to him. You can only throw so many screens to a player before defenses start sniffing it out. Mangus didn't look lost running routes, but he didn't get open consistently enough either.
Where is the offense at?
The running game was very, very disappointing. A large part of the problem is that the offense only seemed to run outside zone stretch plays, which Foster's scheme has always had success against. Foster's defensive linemen always do a good job at flowing in the direction of the play, preventing the tailback from getting to the outside. His Whips/Rovers always do a great job at flowing down the line to prevent the cutback. The aggressive nature of Bud's defense leaves very little for a running back to do other than try and push the pile to get what he can. Bud's scheme can backfire against teams that do a good job on designed cutback/counters though (see Pitt in 2012 and Miami 2011), but the offense didn't run a single counter from under center all night. In order to run against Foster, you have to counter the aggressive d-line flow, and that didn't happen last night. I'm not sure if Loeffler doesn't want to show any in public (I seriously doubt that, it's not like Saban is going to be surprised by a counter), or if he just hasn't installed any other running plays yet (maybe, but that seems a little unlikely, we are a week into camp), or if he just wants to run the same play over and over to get a fair assessment of everyone's skill level (most likely).
Whatever the reasoning, the offensive line was left out to dry. They were asked to block defenders who knew what rushing play was coming. Even if the offensive line had better athletes than the d-line (and they don't) they would have struggled to execute those blocks. We'll have a much better idea of where the running game is after next scrimmage, as I assume by then more power rushing plays and counter's off of the outside zone stretch look are utilized. Loeffler/Grimes had too much success rushing the ball from under center at Auburn to be struggling this much.
Joel Caleb got a ton of reps at tailback in the scrimmage. I was excited by the move and was encouraged by the positive reviews he was getting. Imagine my disappointment when his first scrimmage consisted of running into a brick wall over and over and over. It's hard to get an idea of how good a running back is when he has zero holes to work with. It was impossible to tell how good his vision was simply because there wasn't anything for him to see.
I will say this about him though. Caleb is definitely a powerful runner. He does get that extra push when he hits the pile, and he's not afraid to put his head down and take a defender on. Until the offense starts having some success opening up holes for him (either by blocking better or adding more variety to the blocking schemes) it'll be hard to project his skill level at that position. For now though, it's safe to say that he has the potential to be a contributor this season at tailback.
The Big Picture
We all know the drill by now. In the summer, the defense is going to be further along than the offense, especially when the offense has a bunch of new coaches who are installing a new playbook and blocking scheme. The first scrimmage of the summer is never a good indication of how much success an offense or defense will have over the course of a season. As a fan, the only thing these scrimmages are really good for is to see how individual players are faring, and on that front there are positive signs all over the field for Tech.
Kendall Fuller and Brandon Facyson are both promising young players. I suspect that Fuller will get the starting nod at corner versus Bama, but will slide over to the nickel slot when Bama spreads the field (similar to what his brother did when Cris HIll used to come on as the 3rd Corner). Facyson showed flashes of brilliance though, and before these summer practices are over may very well win Foster's confidence.
Tech's young WR's showed a lot of promise. Stanford, Knowles, and Parker all stood out as gifted athletes. I believe there will be growing pains there, but I wouldn't be shocked if Tech's WR's had success against Bama's secondary, especially if Loeffler can get the running game going.
The offensive line needs work, but they also need some help in these matchups against the defense. The sooner the full running playbook gets installed the better. The lack of creativity I saw last night was disappointing, and I was hoping for better. Tech has seven days before the next scrimmage, hopefully by then battle between the offense and defense will be a fair fight.

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Thanks guys.
Here's what we use out in the field. http://www.riteintherain.com/category.asp?id={654E2183-E5F5-466C-912C-97B400866A48}
With others leaving the program, and Manning's future in doubt, Facyson and Kendall Fuller are going to have to live up to (and exceed) the expectations for them. The defense will absolutely have to play like the toughest units of the past two decades, and give the offense a good field every chance it gets. Fortunately, we also have a proven Kicker and Punter.
But yeah, I don't expect huge numbers from the offense. That being said, if they can control the pace of the game and not make costly mistakes, that's already a huge step in the right direction. What the Hokies need now more than ever, is an offense that won't steal a defeat from the jaws of victory. I'm certain we've got a new staff that can better accommodate this through coaching, game planning, and play calling.
I don't think kendall is going to remain the 4th fuller for very long. Kid has a chance at something special. And as French stated on twitter were a we injury or two away from seeing him in offense too. Was an all state receiver in highschool
I wholeheartedly agree with that first paragraph.
statesville stand up!
From what I saw yesterday (in addition to what 3rdand31 noticed about the play-action game), I wouldn't be shocked in the least to see us hit at least one play like this against Bama, and to have success with it all year long.
EDIT: Who knew anyone other than French ever talked about football? Hm.
Very off topic, but... HOW ARE BOTH OF THESE TEAMS WEARING HOME JERSEYS?!?!
It's allowed, but the away team takes a penalty on kickoff. They did it a few years back for USC-UCLA.
Hmm... Interesting, I wonder why we don't see it more then
I don't either. The rule stems from when TV was black and white, so one team would be dark and the other light and it'd be easier to distinguish. With all color, and mostly high definition TVs, there's no reason it couldn't be done in many more cases. The only issues would be schools with reds or blues as primary home jersey colors, because there are so many of them. Imagine BC-FSU in all home unis.
I think they changed the rule after that USC/UCLA game. It used to be a penalty and loss of a timeout at the start of each half. If I remember correctly Kiffin took a delay of game and called a timeout on their first series to even it out (classy move, by a not-so-classy guy). Now both teams have to agree before the start.
My question is, why on earth would you compromise the amount of time outs you have just to wear a different colored jersey?? I mean come on!
London would, he doesn't know what to do with them anyway.
Because UCLA was so bad there was no chance they were going to win anyway. Gave them something to get on SportsCenter.
I guess if USC and UCLA can do it year after year...
My comments keep getting eaten, and I don't know why...
It's a caching issue that needs to be fixed. It happens if you edit a comment I believe. Eventually when the cache is refreshed the changes will show up.
I think Tech will have at least a moderate amount of success throwing down the field (15 yards+) against Bama. Auburn got destroyed by Bama, but they had a couple of plays down the field for good yardage, and missed at least one wide-open receiver for a td. The opportunities will be there, Thomas will have to see them and then get the ball there.
And the hardest part it seems will be the WR's catching and capitalizing on those opportunities.
Awesome writeup thanks! Very excited about Parker I know Coach Cav couldn't rave enough about his talent at the spring recruiting event.
One Q--thoughts on Logan? Twitter commentary on his performance was mixed--saw "atrocious" mentioned re: at least 1-2 throws and a few others said he was sharp. Assuming from your silence that you couldn't ascertain much good or bad?
With the exception of one or two throws, he was pretty spot-on all day. Definitely looks much-improved from last year.
Well he certainly wasn't atrocious, I can say that much for sure. He still has the most impressive arm on the team and since he did have the yellow jersey on, he didn't get a chance to show off his legs. Thomas also does have the "aura" of a leader on the field. He is in command of the offense and looks very comfortable moving people around and making pre-snap reads.
Was the passing attack humming? Not really, no. Tech's secondary is too good and the WR's too inexperienced for Thomas and Co. to find a lot of consistency throwing the ball.
Look, Logan Thomas is the best Quarterback on the team. Mark Leal is, in my opinion, a distant second to Thomas. It's impossible to say that for sure because Leal doesn't have enough live-game snaps under his belt. Who knows, Leal might be a total gamer. But I doubt it. He escapes from pressure backwards way too much rather then stepping forward into the pocket, and if he was a threat to Logan Thomas's job... we'd have seen some evidence of it by now.
Is Logan capable of throwing this team to victory? Probably not against the toughest teams on Tech's schedule. At least, not with this young WR group. But if the ground game starts going and the line is able to give Thomas time and Loeffler is able to get the matchups he wants... IF all those things happen then Thomas could very well be the ACC QB of the year. Especially if Loeffler has success in using Thomas in the run game.
But if Loeffler has to rely on Thomas to throw the ball 40+ times a game, forget about it. Thomas just isn't consistent enough with his post-snap reads to West-Coast-Pass his way down the field. He needs to throw the ball deep and use his arm strength to fit the ball in the low percentage areas of the field that defenses are willing to give up (in front of the secondary but behind the linebackers).
One other item of note. While Augie Conte was listed as the top tackle on the depth chart yesterday, he was the right tackle with the "two group" ie the guys who are not challenging for a starting job last night. Both he and Parker Osterloh struggled with the speed of DeWayne Alford and Seth Dooley in the highlight clips.
Also, great post!
If i'm Bama, I don't know why i'd even bother spreading the field to give Kendall / our spread D a chance to play (other than on really long-down situations). With our whip injured, i'd just run power-football at them all-day and gain 5+ yards a pop all-day.
Other way of looking at it is to exploit our young CB's, but that's too risky perhaps with the talent that we have. I'd just pound it out against us if I were them.
Saban + Bama = Pound the Rock.
Yes I would expect us to watch a very boring first half where Bama does exactly this to wear us down. Then in the second half, those 5 yard gains will turn into 15 or 20+ yard gains with the very talented TJ Yeldon.
* See VT vs BAMA 2009.* That's how we lost the game in the 4th qtr. Mark Ingram and that O-line did a number on us. We simply got out athlete'd after playing our nuts off for 3 qtrs. It does seem like last year though Yeldon had a case of the fumbles...maybe he still has them!
1) I can't wait to see Yeldon and Duke Johnson play this year. Best RBs in the country, and both true sophomores, I believe.
2) Saban's 4th quarter conditioning program lives up to its billing. We played a very competitive game against Alabama back in 2009, but, as you said, we got worn down. This is the strategy they use. And it works. Our lack of depth in some positions will kill us.
I actually think we could have won that game had we known what kind of player we had in Ryan Williams. He only had 13 carries and averaged over 6 ypc with 2 TDs. Give the man the rock and let him give our defense a break. But oh well, too late now.
Yup. And had we let Jayron return punts from the start. One fumble probably wouldn't have happened.
I heard that DONALDVAN MANNING is transferring from VT. Supposively he got buried in the Depth chart. any thoughts on this? considering he was a 4-Star on rivals who we stole from a Miami high school.
He was never "Pig Committed."
(In case anyone isn't familiar with that saying, I like to tell the background. The chicken is committed to breakfast in as much as she gives her eggs. The pig, he's committed to breakfast. The perception is that Donaldven Manning was only chicken-committed to our program, not pig committed.)
I've always heard that chickens are involved, but pigs are committed.
Yep, that's simpler.
and accurate
The Chicken is Committed. Just ask David Wilson what he eats for breakfast on Sundays.

David Wilson is amazing if he eats CFA on Sunday's.
That concept was virtually what this site was founded upon. The website header even used to be "David Wilson eats Chik-Fil-a on Sundays"
This site went nuts when DW actually posted a picture of him at CFA on a Sunday.
I remember that from my pre-posting lurker days....do we still have that in archives?
The original post:
http://www.thekeyplay.com/content/2010/september/30/david-wilson-eats-ch...
And the Tweet:
There may have been another one too but that was the only one I could find. February 19th was also a Sunday.
A turkey leg for you, my friend!
i dont know if its some subconscious thing from reading this site all the time but i swear the urge to eat chik-fila only hits me on a sunday
I am the same way. I try to eat fast food rarely but Sunday evenings I always seem to crave chikfila.
Donaldven Manning transfer thread
Was there a point to the caps? I'm confused.
Really good post, I enjoyed the read. But I will say that I thought Carlis Parker's hands are a little shaky. Saw a few drops.
The one thought that came to mind while reading this was how many times players have stepped up huge for us when we've had doubts in positions.
How many times did a RB step up when we thought we lost half our offense (Darren Evans, Ru, Wilson). We need that this year. One of the backs needs to claim that top spot and or WRs need to step up for us big time.
Logan needs someone to trust, he can't do it on his own and he proved that last year unfortunately (I'm not criticizing too much, hardly anyone can carry an offense alone). Defensively I'm not worried about us, we'll hold our own against anyone there I believe, but our skill positions on the offensive side need to prove something.
I actually feel very confident about our skill positions. Between DJ/Demitri/Josh and Trey/JC I think we're fine there. What really worries me, is the offensive line. It seems like they haven't been able to create holes all Spring or August
I'm banking on Grimey holding his cards to the chest to throw Bama off. Likelihood 20%, but a guy can dream.
I'm banking on Grimey holding his cards to the chest to throw Bama off. Likelihood 20%, but a guy can dream.
I felt the same way before the "scrimmage" last Saturday. Demitri had 2 wide open drops that would have been TDs and DJ still seems VERY hobbled by his knee. Not sure if he will be 100% by Bama. And we're Virginia Tech, so why would I expect anything else than to see a shaky offensive line? I'm used to that by now
The OL always seems to need work. Hopefully Grimes whips them into shape this year. But our RBs didn't show (at least to me) much last year and or WRs just aren't very proven. It just reminds me a lot of when Williams and Wilson came in and just wowed us all. Hopefully someone that VT fans outside of these blog sites don't really know comes out and just shines this season.
I hope Grimes gets them in gear, too, but I am also a little worried (or, maybe hopeful?) that we'll experience one of those I-recruited-my-guys-so-the-upperclassmen-might-get-bumped scenarios next year.
Torrian Gray said that he thinks that Donovan Riley is "going to be big-time here, at Tech on Monday, the day after this article got posted. Just further confirmation that the Hokies are stocked with young, talented players at the CB position.
I'm sure that there are something things that Riley needs to work on in order to spend more time on the field. But. He simply has a knack for making plays. Riley is an absolute ball-hawk. Can't wait to see what he'll turn in to.
Mike Barber is saying on the J. D. Howell Show (ESPN Blacksburg) that Wang (C), Miller (RG), and Farris (LG) are pretty much set as the inside guys on the OL.
I am surprised Benedict didn't make the cut at Guard