"Foe"Rensics: Olde Dominion 800

A completely accurate history of the love-child that is ODU football.

Hello. Welcome back to the most popular feature on TKP among opposing fan bases. Frequently, dastardly columnists will write slanderous and malicious things about upcoming opponents, but we at TKP strive for a balanced, reasoned approach to coverage of the teams Virginia Tech's gridiron heroes take on. Particularly me. So buckle up, grab your favorite malt liquor and let's take a ride down to the 757, where many of the greatest Hokies have come from, and where great Hokies will continue to come from despite any attempts to set up a home team there1.

The flag, the hairline, the moustache, the pose...honestly, this picture deserves an entire column dedicated to it alone.

1. So what's been going on lately?

A. Well, I bought a dethatcher, been re-seeding parts of my lawn that need some help, researching leasing an electric car, and-

2. Dude. I don't care. I mean about Hokie football.

A. Oh! Well. Half of the team decided to let the other half shine in back to back weeks. Against Delaware, the Hokies tied a school record for fewest points allowed (zero) and the following week, the defense forgot to show up for a quarter, but then the offense tied a school record for offensive yards against East Carolina. I tell you, I don't have CBSSN AND I had to go to my father in law's birthday party that afternoon, but I spent the entirety of the third quarter sitting at the end of the dinner table, earbud in, listening to Laze and Burnop get increasingly excited and bewildered at the atomic wedgie the Hokies were pulling on the Pirates2.

3. Excellent!

A. Yep. And, as a reminder, as the only TKP staffer to predict an undefeated season, WHICH Tech is currently on pace for, I am in first place. Mason and French may know how to diagram a play, and what an "Inverted Veer" is and what a "Linebacker" is, but I am demonstrably smarter than everyone else at this point in the season. Do not forget that, unless that status changes.

4. Try not to pull something patting yourself on the back. So who's up next?

A. The mighty Monarchs of Olde Dominion.

This is celebration of the 12th monarchs in dynastic rule across the world, like Nerva and Richard II.

Olde Dominion is in Norfolk, and is one of the newer institutes of higher education in the Commonwealth of Virginia. There are quite a few high quality universities and colleges in Virginia: Virginia Tech, James Madison, William & Mary headline the list, but VCU and George Mason certainly add to a strong supporting cast with specialty areas in which they excel. And with all these great schools in one state, they start bumping into each other and, well, things happen.

So William & Mary set up a little satellite campus back in 1930 in Norfolk; just to have a little quiet space closer to the beach to kick back on weekends. Well, it just so happens that a little school known then as VPI was looking in the same area for the same kind of thing and William and Mary offered to let VPI kick it in their little get away campus to, ya know, just chill and Netflix.

It was strictly platonic, just two schools hanging out.

Well, being the two best colleges in Virginia, it turns out William & Mary and VPI had a lot in common, and they had a lot of fun on those little holiday weekends for decades. VPI would show William & Mary how to build a catapult and explain aerodynamics, William & Mary would teach VPI about the House of Burgesses and that Thomas Jefferson wasn't really that much of a douche when he was a student, that all came later. One weekend in the early 60s, William & Mary introduced VPI to colonial mead, and VPI showed William & Mary you could mix it with bourbon and have a real good time. Well, one bourbon led to another, then one thing led to another, and they both woke up the next morning hungover as hell and no one could find William & Mary's underwear.

Things proceeded as they do when a friendship takes a drunken turn into something more; awkwardly, but still friendly. Neither school wanted anything too serious; these are colleges after all, and the weekends didn't obscure the fact that during the week, they were a four-hour drive apart. But a few missed grading periods later, and it was time to face facts; that drunken night was going to have more consequences than just the future of their friendship. Being focused on academics, neither were really prepared to bring an entire school up, but William & Mary had very conservative, colonial values and they both agreed keeping it would be for the best.

To celebrate their common Virginia heritage, when the little school was first delivered in 1962 they named it Old Dominion Kindergarten. Due at least in part to its impressive parentage, it quickly rose through the ranks, achieving College and then University status in short order. Having parents with such strong credentials and work ethics certainly helped.

5. I never knew that colleges had the right parts to make more colleges.

A. That's why I'm here. So anyway, as any child will, ODU was somewhat rebellious against its parents; a school that is closely associated with the founding fathers who broke away from England, and a school that is embodied by a blue collar, hard working mentality. So ODU began to gravitate to LOLUVA, a ne'er do well who named their mascot after the colonists who supported a failed king in Charles I who was eventually executed for his douchebaggery. Hence, they named themselves the Monarchs, after Charles I and all that he represented. Now that ODU has matured somewhat, they tend to downplay their one-time teenage crush on LOLUVA, insisting that their mascot has more to do with their love of butterflies.

When you'd rather use this as an alternate helmet than be associated with LOLUVA...

6. Very intimidating. Tell me more interesting things about ODU.

A. Yes! They boast alumni such as the guy that hosted Cash Cab, a show I would have TOTALLY DOMINATED. Former WWF wrestler Paul Diamond played soccer there before losing to Shawn Michaels on the first ever Monday Night Raw. They also claim a Watergate burglar, Frank Sturgis, as well as the Andrew Ridgely of the Neptunes, Chad Hugo. Actually, Hugo might have it worse than Ridgely, because at least we all knew there was another guy in Wham!, I had no idea the Neptunes was an actual group and not just Pharrell.

7. Do they have footballers?

A. Yep. So, ODU has gotten to that age where they realize their parents are not the worst, but are actually someone to look up to. Since William and Mary regularly battles JMU and Richmond for the second best team in the state behind Virginia Tech, ODU naturally decided to follow their parental lineage and start a football program.

8. Oh. Are they any good?

A. Yes and no. They have been a D I-A school for three years, and managed to get to a bowl game last year, and won! Over Eastern Michigan. In the Bahamas. They are in Conference USA, which is now the conference you get into if you aren't good enough for the AAC, which is the conference you get into if you aren't good enough for a real conference. They are essentially one step above the Sun Belt, which is actually kind of impressive since that's the default conference for those stepping up to D I-A. So they regularly battle football powerhouses: Charlotte, Western Kentucky, and Florida International.

9. Do they have a coach?

A. Yes. Bobby Wilder, who played his college ball at Maine and has been ODU's only football coach since their program restarted3. He only got his job thanks to his cousin, former Virginia governor Doug Wilder, but he's done pretty well since. He's never beaten a BCS conference opponent, but he's whooped up every other school in the state he's played, including JMU and William & Mary.

10. Does their football team have players?

A. They do! In Monarch tradition of having a visiting royal hold an honorary spot on their roster, they've got Prince Ajegwu, heir to the throne of Zamunda. Bunmi Rotimi, who is firstly a delicious Vietnamese sandwich and secondly a kind of pasta. Not only do they have a Kesean in the backfield (Strong), they've got a Keisean as a linebacker (Wilson). Jamez Brickhouse, who I can only pray you're supposed to pronounce like the Colombian soccer player3. Finally, I present Jamshyer McUmber, who may have the greatest name of all time. I don't even have a joke here, other than the fact that his siblings are Nick and Nora, his parents are Rick and Melanie, and he's JAMSHYER. And yes, if I have another kid, he will be Jamshyer Fuller.

11. Speaking of...any Fullers?

FULLER KLAXON! FULLER KLAXON! FULLER DEFCON RED!

A. I don't want to alarm anyone, but they have truly learned from their parents and started recruiting Fullers. Malik obviously isn't one of Mama Fullers, and she always said that branch of the family would never amount to anything, else Malik would be playing a home game in Lane this weekend.

12. Any cool football related traditions?

A. Dude, they haven't had football long enough for anyone to run out of eligibility, how could they come up with any cool traditions that fast? Celebrating an outmoded form of government? Um...they have won every bowl game they've ever played in? They also have a tradition of ONLY playing in bowls sponsored by purveyors of delicious fried chicken? They've never lost to LOLUVA? No, that's not special...

13. Do they have rivalries?

A. According to Wikipedia, their biggest rival is VCU. Who doesn't have a football team. So...see above answer.

14. Do they eat at ODU?

A. Yes. And in the ultimate sign of respect to their parentage, the first restaurant that comes back is Perfectly Frank, which is, frankly, perfect. But LET'S HEAR FROM THE REVIEWERS:

Delicious and cheap. They've never gotten our order wrong.

Says Kate Guillot, who has somewhat low standards for what deserves a five star rating. I dunno, kinda reminds me of:

Gotta celebrate the little things in life, Kate

Cynlithia adds:

Nice ladies very comfortable and friendly place. Food is good and that special sauce "Love it"

That is inappropriate. INAPPROPRIATE, CYNLITHIA!

Frank would like you keep things a little more classy, Cynlithia

15. And do they barbecue?

A. Indeed they do. It appears the closest place to ODU is Adam & Eve's House of Ribs, who get extra points for witty punning. Let's hear from Jerome:

Food is seasoned with love. Employees are very friendly and helpful. Pricing and quantity visit great. You get a bang for your buck.

PHRASING, JEROME. If you get a bang that's seasoned with love, that's...I'm not sure that's legal in Virginia. Next, Damien weighs in:

Taste So Good You Would Think Your Grandma Is In The Kitchen

I might be the only one, but neither of my grandmothers could cook for s#*t. The most cherished food memory with either grandmother is when one took me to Friendly's and let me have an ice cream sundae for lunch and another one for dessert. This kind of endorsement tends to cause an adverse reaction in me.

Finally, I'd like to end with the owner's response to this comment from Tatiana, who said "Hands-down the best place for BBQ in Hampton Roads. Authentic soul food from the hands of the talented Miz Lorraine. You'll feel like family here."

Thank you so much we try really hard

Aww.

16. Tell me about FAINTs.

A. Apparently someone told Josh Jackson that they've got Joey locked in a basement somewhere and if he throws an interception that they're going to kill her. Whatever they're doing, it's working! Jackson REFUSES to complete a pass to anyone that's not on his team. On the flip side, the defense is hauling in a pick per game, which is a little disappointing, to be honest. And no defensive touchdowns? I mean...no, it's fine. It's great. I'm not upset.

17. Great. Way to take the shine off 3-0. Anything to watch for this weekend?

A. I'm watching for:

  • Coach Fuente. This is, reasonably, your last chance to have Tim Settle return a punt this season. At least until BC. Or LOLUVA. Both are terrible, and doing it to LOLUVA would actually be more fun...
  • Some parent-child mascot bonding on the sidelines, Hokie to Butterfly
  • A dominating home win on the Smurf Turf Friday night
  • Bradburn and Slye getting into a Ronnie Lott impersonation competition on the field

Enjoy the game! Hopefully next weekend lots more people will be coming to our citaaaaaay.

1And if you think that's a not-so-veiled shot at LOLUVA holding scrimmages down there, well, you know me too well.
2Laze getting deadly serious about the Pirate puns he was dropping was delightful.
3That's right! They had a team back in the 30s that essentially got discontinued due to a $10,000 debt. Don't ask, I didn't.
4James Rodriguez, or HA-mess.

Comments

Always a pleasure, fifth.

Love the indirect digs at uva sprinkled throughout this piece.

Do we still call W&M? Or just argue over how ODU was raised?

Colleges drunkingly getting it on making more colleges. Whatever is ticking inside that head of yours, I hope it never runs out of batteries.

they've got Prince Ajegwu, heir to the throne of Zamunda

I'm here for the memes, I just stay for the football.

One of the best underrated movies, love all the different people Eddie played.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

Join us in the Key Players Club

Let's Go

HOKIES

And Arsenio!!!

they've got Prince Ajegwu, heir to the throne of Zamunda

I think I got an email from him not too long ago promising that he would send me some money if I let him use my bank account.....

Take the shortest route to the ball and arrive in bad humor.

Laze getting deadly serious about the Pirate puns he was dropping was delightful

On that note, is there an archive of radio broadcasts? It would be a pretty cool way to pass the commute, listening to old games.

How do you have time to do this? A leg for content that has to be alcohol induced. My son does live comedy. You two should get together!! "Excellent work."

foresthokie
US Navy Vet

As the unofficial record holder of the most reads of this segment without actually being a TKP member, I can now officially take the opportunity to applaud you for your work. One of the favorite parts of my Thursday/Friday mornings is cracking open a cold Country Club and reading these at the office.

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

Country Club Malt Liquor references will always get a leg from me...

A fellow Central VA Hokie will always get a leg from me...

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

I have fond memories of Country Club brunches at my townhouse in Pheasant Run!

Where's the beef?

So smooth - so different!
Looks inviting ... tastes exciting!

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

As your former roommate... I disagree with the fondness of said memories.

I'm watching for:...A dominating home win on the Smurf Turf Friday night

LOVE IT

Warning: this post occasionally contains strong language (which may be unsuitable for children), unusual humor (which may be unsuitable for adults), and advanced mathematics (which may be unsuitable for liberal-arts majors)..

Never will I have cheered harder for Boise.

Except back on 9/25/15 when they won 56-14 in Charlottesville

Edit:Not trying to be the well acktually guy, just gotta point out how well it went for the Hoos with a 'homefield advantage.'

I think I'm most excited to see if Boise's Kickoff Dog makes it in at QB once it gets really out of hand

Literally spit out my water reading #3, surprised my keyboard still works. Excellent as always...

I can imagine no more rewarding a career. And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction:
“I served in the United States Navy"

KCCO

And you know that Kirk Herbstreit will be pulling for the blue field...

I can imagine no more rewarding a career. And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction:
“I served in the United States Navy"

KCCO

“I turned down 12 other opportunities. You know what I mean?” - Fuente

Heavyweights reference, solid

I swear to drunk, I'm not God

“I turned down 12 other opportunities. You know what I mean?” - Fuente

I swear to drunk, I'm not God

There are quite a few high quality universities and colleges in Virginia: Virginia Tech, James Madison, William & Mary headline the list, but VCU and George Mason certainly add to a strong supporting cast with specialty areas in which they excel.

Once I read that - and then reread it to make sure I didn't miss anything - I knew it was gonna be a good time.

No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

We don't love dem Hoos.

I'm pretty sure that was the only totally factual line in the whole article.

False. Jamshyer McUmber may, in fact, be the greatest name of all time.

Chem PhD '16

You didn't miss anything and neither did that sentence.

5. I never knew that colleges had the right parts to make more colleges.

A. That's why I'm here.

Aaaaand that's where I lost it.

Mason and French may know how to diagram a play, and what an "Inverted Veer" is and what a "Linebacker" is

"I mean, you know, fuck them, but good for them." -Too Druck to Funk

This entire paragraph....

Things proceeded as they do when a friendship takes a drunken turn into something more; awkwardly, but still friendly. Neither school wanted anything too serious; these are colleges after all, and the weekends didn't obscure the fact that during the week, they were a four-hour drive apart. But a few missed grading periods later, and it was time to face facts; that drunken night was going to have more consequences than just the future of their friendship. Being focused on academics, neither were really prepared to bring an entire school up, but William & Mary had very conservative, colonial values and they both agreed keeping it would be for the best.

surprised Charles, the Monarch Lion, didn't make an appearance.
story

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The butterfly on the football helmet made me lose it. Haha I just can't handle the way it's smiling

So, about that team in the 30's....

Old Dominion's most legendary gridiron moment occurs on Oct. 14, 1932, when Tommy Scott's Norfolk Division Braves football team, taking advantage of a case of mistaken identity, plays the mighty University of Miami Hurricanes. The Braves lose the hard-fought contest, 6-2, a game that was meant to be played by parent institution William and Mary.

Every time I think you can't outdo yourself and you prove me wrong. I love it!

If a tree falls in Scott Stadium does it make a sound?

God the full gif with the fist pump just makes this so much worse.

I'd almost gotten to a place where I could see this without cringing too hard. But seeing him play the string all the way out with the awkward dad fist pump just makes it awful.

I've been drinking.

If you're reading the above post and thinking, "is this guy serious?!?," you can safely assume I'm not.

But a few missed grading periods later, and it was time to face facts; that drunken night was going to have more consequences than just the future of their friendship.

My gosh, I had to read this twice before I realized what was done here. Damn.

Both hysterical and educational! Water shot out my nose on the BBQ section!

I might be the only one, but neither of my grandmothers could cook for s#*t.

Every other grandma.

via GIPHY

Outspoken team cake advocate. Hates terrapins. Resident Macho Man Gif Poster. Distant cousin to Dork Magic. Frequently misspells words.

2 things, f the bbq, hit a brewery near by and foodtruck if visiting and norfolk native magnum t.a. went there for a couple of yrs before he transitioned to the nwa. had he not been a car crash, his career arc would have blown away sting's.

side note, the bco's first legal beer purchase was at a 7-11 near ODU. ahole didn't even card me.

young ODU seems worried about playing one of their parents

RIP Stick It In

but he's whooped up every other school in the state he's played, including JMU and William & Mary

That's no way to treat your mother! We're going to have to whip this unruly child into submission as punishment.