Virginia Tech 24, Florida State 3

Bud Foster broke Florida State.

[Cory Hancock]

That happened.

Justin Fuente earned a signature win. The first bona fide one of his Hokies' tenure. Virginia Tech, a 7-point underdog, went on the road and knocked off Florida State, 24-3. And what a bunch of rude house guests the Hokies were. Use a coaster, damn it! The Seminoles had the perfect evening planned too. Willie Taggart's debut in garnet and gold. The 'Noles dapper in all-black uniforms — formal wear fit to usher in the new era of FSU football. A national audience tuned in for the unveiling of "Lethal Simplicity" on the national stage. The Hokies spoiled it all.

After an offseason where assistant-coach-resigns-after-sex-scandal might not crack the top five bad things to happen to a program, it was surreal.

But it should have been familiar. That was vintage BeamerBall. Check all the boxes:

Blocked punt returned for a touchdown.

The offense didn't turn it over, but squandered field position down the stretch on numerous possessions. (It should have been an even more lopsided win.)

And then the defense. In the face of all the well-documented offseason departures, the Hokies' defense strangled the 'Noles. It was a 5-sack, 3-interception, relentless masterpiece orchestrated by Bud Foster.

Instead of focussing on the departures of Greg Stroman, Tim Settle, Adonis Alexander, Mook Reynolds, and Brandon Facyson, most should have listened to Ricky Walker (this author included).

"As long as Bud Foster is in Blacksburg, I think we're going to be just fine," said Walker at ACC Kickoff.

"In Bud we trust" is cliche, but it's also the damn truth. For Foster, Monday night was another stamp on the program he helped build through two eras of Virginia Tech football.

Go ahead and try to imagine what type of roster Foster would have to have work with in order to field a bad defense. It's tough to do.

You needed a media guide handy to identify all the foreign numbers making tackles. The front-seven, scarily thin at defensive tackle and all, was stout at the point of attack. Subtract the lone busted run from stud running back Cam Akers (85 yards) and FSU netted 9 rushing yards. 😱

Deondre Francois was bottled up and looked average. Tech's young secondary held its own in some tough coverage assignments. The Florida State offense, described as "Lethal Simplicity", was rendered impotent.

Virginia Tech raised expectations for its 2018 campaign on Monday night. That might be a brazen claim based on a one-game sample. And sure Florida State might turn out to be an unranked, seven-win program by season's end. Regardless, the Hokies went on the road, in a hostile environment, and beat a star-studded, conference opponent. That's impressive. (Consider too how ordinary Miami looked in its opener against LSU.)

Moreover, Tech demonstrated it can throw it back to the Beamer years — play smart on offense, capitalize on special teams, and leverage a capable defense. That's an identity that paid dividends. And finally, there's plenty of room for improvement. Take the drives that sputtered on the Florida State side of the field. Now contemplate the makeup of the Hokies if those resulted points and not change of possession. Indeed, that's some rich and delightful thinking.

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1st post ever folks.

While the offense get's going this year there is always Bud's consistency... Thank God for him.

Side Note: Trevon Hill is going to be in a lot of backfields this year. Love him..

Overheard as Duke assistant coaches took elevator down from press box: “Guys, they stopped the run with a three-man front.” - David Teel Tweet 2018

Hill and Gaines both look incredible so far. Very excited about the pass rush this year. As bad as FSU's line was, getting consistent pressure while rushing 3 was really fun to watch.

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I said two or three times that I hate it when Bud rushes three in big 3rd down situations. There is nothing more frustrating than watching a good QB stand in the pocket, sipping tea, waiting for a crossing route to come open after a ten-second scramble drill. But when you can rush three and move the QB's feet, why not do it all night long?

"Our job as coaches is to influence young people's lives for the better in terms of fundamental skills, work ethic, and doing the right thing. Every now and again, a player actually has that effect on the coaching staff." Justin Fuente on Sam Rogers

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

I know the offense struggled a bit, but what's awesome is our running game showed life against a team with a lot of talent. It's been a while since we've been able to say that. Our passing game will work itself out. This receiving corp is GOOD. This will work itself out the more they get settled in, especially with our running game being some kind of threat.

My bigger concern is how does this young defense handle having a shorter time to prepare for teams. Bud obviously did an awesome job utilizing the extra time during camp to get them ready for FSU, but where young defenses struggle is when they only have 3/4 practices to get a gameplan down. If these kids can do it, the ceiling is so high with their skillset. Luckily we have a few weeks where they can get some growing pains out.

Bud/Wiles 2020

First post went plaid. Nicely done!

They erected a statue of Bud yesterday after that

All right. While we're still under a caution, I want you to go back out on that track and hit the pace car.

Hit the pace car?

Hit the pace car!

What for?

Because you've hit every other goddamned thing out there, I want you to be perfect!

The term "lethal simplicity" must've had Bud licking his chops... specifically the simplicity part.

one 'nole after the game - "I think lethal simplicity should be called lethargic complacency"

"They got us field position and then the offense stuck it in." - Frank Beamer

Just change the school name to Florida Simpleton's University. They can be the Lethal Simpletons.

Take the shortest route to the ball and arrive in bad humor.

If you want to see something cool, go rewatch the game on the "Coaches' Filmroom" ESPN cast. Jim Mora, Gene Chizik, Mack Brown, Hugh Freeze, and one other I'm forgetting watched the game and coach talked the whole time. They were floored by Bud's squad and how disciplined they were. Really cool to see that much experience in a room together calling a ball game.

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Excuse my ignorance, but how would I go back to watch that version of the telecast??

I really enjoyed that, thanks for posting!!

That was a great way to re-watch the game. Thanks for posting.
Pretty cool to hear other coaches give credit to Bud.
They made a point to look up the name of the player that ran down Akers and gave Watts his credit.

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I watched those during the CFB Playoff, and they were fantastic from a getting to understand the game perspective. I wasn't sure how much that would be interesting or annoying when watching a team I care about. But I'm definitely planning to rewatch with them. You can learn a lot from the coaches' filmroom broadcasts.

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

I flipped to it after half due to the excessive amount of blood pouring from my ears after hearing the letter "O" more times than I thought possible. You learn a lot about the mindset of the coaches and having a mix of offensive and defensive guys there was really spectacular. Seeing Mack Brown, a guy I hold in very high esteem, deferring to Hugh Freeze on QB decisions was eye opening on how coaches work.

They are also ridiculously sharp on film and cut out a lot of the filler time you see during the telecast. They are constantly going over plays, miskeys, coverages, calls, scheme. It was a pleasure to watch.

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I'm almost to the end of the 2nd quarter and these guys are singing Bud's praises as often as possible. It's obvious how much the college football coaching world respects him.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

It gets real good in the 3rd and 4th when Bud is still blitzing after they call ball game. They almost seem in disbelief at the size of his stones and how he doesn't take his foot off the pedal.

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To Bud Foster from the Podcast:

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

Normally I can't stand Mack Brown as an in game analyst but if there are other coaches I'd be willing to try it.

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Mack is much, much better in this format. He seems more relaxed, like he can talk when he has something to say, but doesn't have to talk just to fill air time. And he's a better facilitator than commentator: he elicited a lot of good comments from the other coaches by asking them questions.

"Our job as coaches is to influence young people's lives for the better in terms of fundamental skills, work ethic, and doing the right thing. Every now and again, a player actually has that effect on the coaching staff." Justin Fuente on Sam Rogers

The Budweiser commercial seems fit right now. This bud's for you, Willie.

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Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

Willie Willie!

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

In. Bud. We. Trust.

As I said in the fam thread, my only hope was we would cover. The first drive completely blew those goals out of the water. From kickoff, it felt like everyone on the team heard folks talk about how awful this offseason was, how we would need to rebuild, and how we were a 8-9 win team at best.

Initial reaction on twitter to the offensive struggles was certainly understood, but I was impressed. We were able to move the ball well and our drives were only stunted by our own mistakes, much of which are to be expected in the first game. Those little mistakes will be ironed out over the next 3-4 weeks.

Needless to say, my season expectations have been escalated. That makes me nervous and excited all at once.

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Still leaving it at 9 games...That Miami and GT game are going to be tough...but I think Ashby is the second coming of Vince Hall so we may go undefeated in the regular season :)

While the D may not have an "eraser" on the level of Tremaine Edmunds, the overall speed on the defense was scary.

Ladler was everywhere, Watts saved a TD with an impressive effort, Farley's first INT was just him getting to the spot first, Rivers & Ashby were disciplined and in the right spots, Hill was a terror coming off the edge and the D-line was in the FSU backfield all night. Wow.

The offense had its moments and will continue to get better. Not trying to look too far ahead, but if this team can go 5-0 and Notre Dame doesn't trip up against anybody, College GameDay could be coming to Blacksburg again...

the overall speed on the defense was scary.

Some of that was speed, and some of it was just incredible, sustained effort. On FSU's offensive play, Trevon Hill sprinted 100 yards. If the runner had juked and Watts had missed the tackle, Hill would have had him. I hope he sprints like that at the NFL combine when the time comes.

College GameDay could be coming to Blacksburg again...

While watching Notre Dame on Saturday, I kept thinking, "I hope our young DBs grow up fast, because this guy keeps missing high." Well, the DBs are already grown. If Wimbush plays like that against us, we will have two 5-turnover games in one season.

"Our job as coaches is to influence young people's lives for the better in terms of fundamental skills, work ethic, and doing the right thing. Every now and again, a player actually has that effect on the coaching staff." Justin Fuente on Sam Rogers

College GameDay could be coming to Blacksburg again

Its a ways out... but if ND can get by Stanford, and we take care of business against Duke, the rest of both schedules are pretty cake from now to then. Fowler made some strong hints on twitter that this might be plan A for that weekend.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Just fighting against the Red River shootout, but that lost some luster this past weekend...

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You mean with Texas looking like a dumpster fire? Yeah, I don't think that one is going to have the hype it could have had.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Fowler made some strong hints on twitter that this might be plan A for that weekend.

I saw that too. Other notable games that weekend:

FSU-Miami (lulz, prob no chance now)
LSU-Florida
Auburn-Miss. St
Nebraska-Wisconsin (maybe Scott Frost gets the Huskers humming?)
OU-Texas
Utah-Stanford

It's a fairly weak slate of games. And since Texas looks like they'll be mediocre again, I think the biggest competition for that week is going to be one of the SEC games. The good news is that LSU plays Auburn in Week 3, and Florida plays Mississippi State in Week 5, so they may neutralize the sexiness of those matchups for Week 6.

IF ND does get by Stanford, there isn't another game on their sched that would really call for Game Day. So I'd say Blacksburg is the leader at this point. Gotta not do $EC games every week, ND does move the needle, and they LOVE going to VT.

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The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Yep. And UF has Miss State to deal with on the road the week before and UT two weeks before. LSU would have to get by a road trip to Auburn.

The chances that UF/LSU lose a game is much higher than VT/ND.

The D was great....and we still missed about 15 tackles! Both of their big plays: Akers run and Laborn's catch, were a result of poor tackling. That's 130 yards in those two plays.

We had some great tackles last night, especially tripping them up on TFL's. But we also bounced off them too much (because they are great athletes) and used poor form too frequently.

Young player stuff. But that just shows how good the scheme was.

FSU really thought they could attack this team by going horizontally. Everyone not named Willie Taggart figured out after about 10 minutes that wasn't going to work.

Well, to be fair, it did work once when Akers ripped off that 85yd run.

If you have to do something 30 times (approximately) to make it work once...

Sorry I thought the /s was implied.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Bud's boys had that play sniffed out, so the play itself did not work. But Akers athletic ability and a poor form tackle let him get by a spill defender and blow down the field.

I'm not the brightest football mind, but Akers 85 yd run was a run play, how is that attacking us horizontally?...

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

If you rewatch the play, It was a run to the outside that was cut upfield. Our D actually spilled well enough to cover it, as they had done all night, but Farley missed the one on one tackle

If Farley even gets a partial hit to slow him down, other defenders would have cleaned it up. Instead, it was a complete whiff (the only bad play by Farley that I was, btw) and Akers got going down field.

To be fair...it's not like it was some Off the bench back, he and AJ Dillon will be the best backs we see all year most likely.

No doubt, but pursuit was great all night. A 1 step hesitation and they could have been there.

Also check out this article on the game by Pete Thamel

linky link

The clickbait title of that article got me this morning as I was waking up!

The photo at the top of the article needs a much shorter caption: "Boner-five!!!"

Tech had eight new starters on defense and a secondary that stalwart Daily Press beat writer Norm Wood tabulated was the least experienced Tech has returned in 15 years. None of that mattered, as Tech looked like the aggressive, fundamentally sound and ball-hawking unit that Foster has been putting together since the Clinton administration.

Yup

I have a fundamental problem with this article:

Tech had eight new starters on defense and a secondary that stalwart Daily Press beat writer Norm Wood tabulated was the least experienced Tech has returned in 15 years.

...

ARE YOU NUTS!!!

I don't know what norm looks like, but perhaps he is stoutly built.

Winning games I thought we'd lose is neat!

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

Some say FSU's offense is still pinned inside the 10, rushing for negative yards to this day.

love this!

I also have to believe that the Noles punter will for a long time have nightmares of punting from his own endzone with lots of angry Hokies coming after him!

Hokie in West Africa...sadly, I can't jump up and down hard enough for it to be felt in Lane

As a punter when you spend the majority of your night checking to make sure your heels are not on the end line....that's a long night!!!!

Foster = Rembrandt

"Don't go to, go through"

Lol even my wife who doesn't watch much football with me commented, "we've been seeing this view of the punter kicking from his end zone a lot this game"

Some say Danny Coale is still running through the FSU secondary, open to this day.

Was so impressed with the new guys last night. Hewitt had some splash plays making his way into the backfield quickly, Porcher was at the very least not sticking out for making mistakes, he may well have played great. The linebackers seemed to be rarely caught out of position and Farley and Watts seemed solid in coverage. That leaves Ladler, whose impressive performance blew me away. Really hoping Hunter doesn't end up in some kind of odd man out Shegog specialty role where he only plays against the increasingly rare heavy sets.

Yeah... I like the new uniform.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Great win that definitely provided more optimism to the season with such a young team.

Although I don't want to derail this thread too much, I am wondering what other Hokie fans think about the on-field injuries. All of the injuries that I saw, based on what they showed on TV, seemed very reasonable except the one injury after the long pass into the red zone for FSU. I understand that it was the first game and things can happen - i.e. charlie horse, sprain, cramp, etc. - but there were a few extremely well timed injuries when we were on defense that stopped their momentum. I don't want to be blinded by my fandom, but I consider Bud and Fuente above doing something as shady and underhanded as faking injuries. In either case, I think it was absolutely terrible of the FSU fans to boo every time somebody got hurt. Thoughts?

(separate topic but I also think FSU did not score that touchdown despite what the commentators kept saying)

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Someone on another thread did a great breakdown of it. There were no shenanigans going on. It looked much worse than it was because they didn't show how little effort was occurring on the previous 2 plays.

Good to hear - I'm assuming that was on the game time thread? I'll take a look.

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I think the instructions from coaches are never to go out and "fake" an injury. But "don't be a hero", if you feel a cramp or a tinge, you don't need to try and run off the field, go down and we'll come get you.

One, you don't have time to get off the field and two, we can't afford for you to take a snap when your hurt just b/c of the hurry up tempo, so, get down if you feel hurt, stop play and our trainers will help you off. This a long standing tactic against up-tempo teams, perfectly legit.

"Don't go to, go through"

(separate topic but I also think FSU did not score that touchdown despite what the commentators kept saying)

Am I the only one wondering why they kept replaying and talking about that, while never mentioning the clear Offensive PI that kept the drive alive in the first place?

Don't want to be that guy. We won and I'm ecstatic about it. But some of the no-calls were atrocious. There were swallowed whistles both ways, I know. But there were some really obvious penalties that the refs seemed to be in perfect position to see and just studiously ignored.

In the end, I think the refs called a neutral game. And I don't want a game to be taken over by refs. But I'd really like the obvious stuff to be called regularly.

Trevon Hill literally got held 10+ times and it didn't get called once.

Wait -"Don't want to be that guy." You're a guy? I have always admired your avatar and assumed otherwise. And, yes, I know I know what "assumed" can mean. [BTW, meant for the humor. and secondly I am at heart a Neanderthal trapped in a modern world.]

I joined in October, hence the avatar. Pondered changing it at one point, but there was pushback from the community.

Please don't. :>)

If anyone ever said to me "crack tea" I'd immediately think of you avatar.

If anyone ever showed me that picture, I'd immediately think "crack tea".'

This is who you are now! I, for one, am a fan.

You could see it on the last couple slo mo replays that his leg never actually hit down. Looked like it did, but there was an ever so small gap that remained until he was in the end zone.

But don't blame the refs for that, it was their ridiculously stupid decision to go hurry up after a controversial play that did them in. Take your time there and the play gets buzzed down and they come away with 7. Instead, you went panic mode, got set, jumped too early, and took the decision out of their hands.

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Allegedly, it could have been reviewed after the false start. I don't know the rule, but that is ESPN's "rules expert" claimed. I actually think the call could have gone either way if reviewed.

I think the rules expert was wrong. The false start was the next play.

As for why FSU hurried up, the receiver dropped the ball and we pounced on it in the end zone.

Found a rulebook online. From section 5:

ARTICLE 1. There are two methods to stop a game to review a ruling on
the field.
a. The replay official and his crew shall review every play of a game. He
may stop a game at any time before the ball is next legally put in play

I would think that a false start penalty does not qualify as "legally put in play".

Correct.
Rules expert earned his pay.

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The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

I can imagine Taggert with two guys yelling at him:

  • Left ear, "Call a time out! That was a touchdown!"
  • Right ear, "Hurry up! That was a fumble!"

"Our job as coaches is to influence young people's lives for the better in terms of fundamental skills, work ethic, and doing the right thing. Every now and again, a player actually has that effect on the coaching staff." Justin Fuente on Sam Rogers

no, since false start is a dead ball foul, the "next play" never actually took place.

There was also the comment that only the player that touches the punt can hit the punter...didn't know that one.

They were saying that was a no doubt running into the kicker if not roughing. I thought he went under him and the punter just fell. I also did not know that rule but I guess that one makes sense.

On the other roughing penalty they wanted he barely grazed him and the punter flopped for sure. I thought good no call on both.

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When they watched the 2nd replay, I believe that it was Herbie who commented that the punter was barely touched, so a good no call.

Note: if the punter had been hit with any force at all (even "running into") his body would have twisted or turned from the impact. Instead he landed on his butt, because he tucked his legs, but didn't move from the supposed contact and tried to make it look like there had been contact.

Shin is down by contact, there's a good chance his shin was down it certainly looked like it touched. That said, I would have been fine if they had reviewed it and called it a touchdown.

I would have been fine if the call on the field was touchdown and the replay let it stand. I don't think it was clear enough to overturn.

"Our job as coaches is to influence young people's lives for the better in terms of fundamental skills, work ethic, and doing the right thing. Every now and again, a player actually has that effect on the coaching staff." Justin Fuente on Sam Rogers

I was wondering more about the end of the play. Looks like the ball was coming loose as he crossed the goal line anyway. But I could be getting mixed up with the NFL's "what's a catch" and "continue through the end of the play" mess.

In the end, that's a play that could still be under review right now and they wouldn't be any closer to figuring out if it was a TD or not.

Right, there was no question that the catch was secure, and he had possession when he crossed the goal line. The only question is whether his shin touched the ground before the ball broke the plane.

"Our job as coaches is to influence young people's lives for the better in terms of fundamental skills, work ethic, and doing the right thing. Every now and again, a player actually has that effect on the coaching staff." Justin Fuente on Sam Rogers

Hewitt and Walker dominated the interior, Ladler killed it at whip, Hill was feasting on Francois, Rivers was solid, and Farley had TWO picks and a sack....As much as we hired Fuente to help the offense catch up to modern college football, VT won by being "vintage" Virginia Tech. Someone start planning Bud's statue please.

Ladler was a beast.

Did Hunter even play a down?

Does he take Hunter's supposed whip spot?

You will see this game, this upset and this sign next on ESPN Sportscenter. Virginia Tech 31 Miami 7

Was wondering the same after the game. I think Ladler was a better fit personnel-wise for FSU, but he absolutely balled out and deserves to be on the field. At the same time, Hunter is an unreal talent and also needs to be on the field. Will be interesting to see how Bud gets both involved. Good problem to have at least.

Hunter got snaps -saw him a couple times I believe...

"...sticks and stones may break my bones but I'm gonna kick you repeatedly in the balls Gardoki!"

I was getting texts from an FSU fan blaming the ref in the first quarter. I think that was a new record.

"We judge ourselves by our intentions and others by their behavior" Stephen M.R. Covey

“When life knocks you down plan to land on your back, because if you can look up, you can get up, if you fall flat on your face it can kill your spirit” David Wilson

Did he blame the ref for the terrible PI call against Ladler? If anything that should've been offensive PI.

Leonard. Duh.

I stopped answering when I was getting texts about how we played dirty every time our WRs would block. There was no rationalizing; the Garnet and Gold glasses were too thick.

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“When life knocks you down plan to land on your back, because if you can look up, you can get up, if you fall flat on your face it can kill your spirit” David Wilson

It is a good move by the WR; If the ball is overthrown, just pull the DB onto you to look like you were tackled.

Refs could call dirty against FSU every play until the heat death of the universe and it still wouldn't balance out all of the calls that have went in their favor over the years.

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In a weird way, all of the offensive futility in the 3rd quarter may have been a blessing. Keeping FSU pinned deep all second half may have shortened the playbook for FSU.

"Take care of the little things and the big things will come."

There was definitely strategy involved. Would you rather have three points and give up seven, or have no points and give up none?

"Our job as coaches is to influence young people's lives for the better in terms of fundamental skills, work ethic, and doing the right thing. Every now and again, a player actually has that effect on the coaching staff." Justin Fuente on Sam Rogers

Me:

Agreed. I told the party I was watching the game with that as well. However, I ate those words when Akers ripped off his long run. But yes, playing deep in your own endzone for the entire 3rd Q when you're down 2 scores is a tough way to get back in the game.

So happy we got cuts to Frank in the box instead of to Bowden. That felt right, and just, especially in Tally.

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

queue it up...

"...sticks and stones may break my bones but I'm gonna kick you repeatedly in the balls Gardoki!"

MVPs: Khalil Ladler and Oscar Bradburn.

Ladler had a statement TFL early, FF and recovery, and chased down Akers at the 5 yard line Reggie Floyd-style to save the touchdown.

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Early on, Ladler reminded me of Kyle Fuller vs GT. It looked like he was coming out of the huddle with the FSU offense.

"Our job as coaches is to influence young people's lives for the better in terms of fundamental skills, work ethic, and doing the right thing. Every now and again, a player actually has that effect on the coaching staff." Justin Fuente on Sam Rogers

Edit: nevermind. Ladler got initial hit, Watts cleaned up

VT showed up and the D had a nastiness to them that reminded me of vintage late 90's/00's.
Love, love, love Tech in the underdog roll! To many unbelievable performances to single out just one player, great day to be a Hokie!

VT defensive dominance + 1 special teams score was enough to beat the noles last night. Incredible.

Great win but I have to ask who was the dude on our team that fell down and faked a leg crap after looking at the sidelines when the nolies were rolling? that was some bush league ish!

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X. Burke

Go back and look at his effort on the previous 2 plays. He was hurt, the coaches wanted him off the field, and they told him to go down.

1) If fake, FSU has a long history of the same, so I have no prod doing it to them.
2) in another thread someone broke down the 2-3 prior plays, where it appeared that Burke had gotten injured. "Fell down" may have happened because there was no way that he was going to be able to get on sides, in time and no way to get him off the field and a replacement on without an injury TO

I think baseless accusations of our players faking injuries is bush league.

Agreed...there appear to be as many medical professionals now as armchair quarterbacks.

"Take care of the little things and the big things will come."

Foster did the same thing vs Tulsa. Seemed that if you were coming out on a rotation, sit down.

My apologies to Mcclease, I've been dogging the RB's this off-season but he ran with authority last night!

yes, Clease was good, but PLEASE stop giving the ball to Peoples. Great dude and leader, but exceptionally poor vision and no ability to make a cut. He literally just runs where the play is designed no matter the circumstance. I was screaming at the TV to stop giving him the ball because the offense was clicking and then we got a 3 and out with 3 runs.

He shouldn't be making cuts. His job needs to be lining up and busting the line.

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Just looking at the box score, Akers finished the night with 82 yards on 14 carries, longest run was 85 yards.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

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Take out that run, and they had 7 yards on 27 carries.

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while, I totally agree with this statement, I would caution us against going too far down this road. At some point you get to UNCheat fan levels of qualifying statements "Not counting the times he threw interceptions, Mitch Tromboneski hasn't thrown an interception in over two years!"

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That's a fair point. I'd just say that on Akers' run, it was perfectly defended up to the point Akers was spilled to Farley as designed, and he whiffed the tackle at the line of scrimmage.

So yes, all the yards count, but it is really encouraging that so few tackles were missed all game long from this young defense, and that a large chunk of the yards FSU gained wasn't a missed assignment, just a missed tackle.

Gives me hope for the GT game.

hell yes on that. Though I suspect the GT OL will be lightyears better than what we just watched, so I doubt we'll be hitting them at the mesh point like we were against FSU. But that was one of the best tackling performances we've had in a very long time.

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Moreover, Tech demonstrated it can throw it back to the Beamer years — play smart on offense, capitalize on special teams, and leverage a capable defense.

VT Football ladies and gentlemen.

Is it football season yet?

I think we should rename fsus offense to just simplicity the lack of lethality was pretty evident imo

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

...or that Willie never explained that the simplicity was going to be lethal to their season record.

I'd like to highlight the play where we ran down Akers. Normal teams, you have that one last guy go for the tackle, clip the RB's ankle and the RB recovers and walks it in for the score. Hokies? Nah man, we got Ladler making a last ditch dive to clip his ankles, but we also have Watts (maybe?) not giving up and comes in hard to finish him off and save the TD.

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It was Watts, PLAYING THE FAR SODE CB he ran 84 yards down and almost the entire width of the field to catch him. There is a video on Twitter I'll try and find.

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Two words about the effort on that play: Trevon Hill.

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Next 3 games are a great opportunity for JJ and the offense to gain some confidence. I feel like he was playing very timidly, perhaps at the request of Coach Fu. Should be able to let loose and sling the ball around more the next 3 weeks.

Next three games will be fun. We'll see some more players on D and hopefully some dynamic offense. Fuente said himself that he'd not have scheduled FSU as first game of the season - but it was clear that FSU also had no tune-up game last night.

Steady Rollin' - bring it on!!

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I'd like to see them keep the passing game simplistic, let the wideouts work on good route running and separation. Save the more exotic stuff until needed against the more challenging opponents. Give the rock to the RBs to solidify that aspect of the game and keep us balanced during conference play.

But yeah, JJ did look a little timid/hesitant. He probably kept hearing Fuente say "value the football" every time he wanted to make a big throw.

It will be great to see him develop more game time rhythm with those giant receivers! Hazelton and Kumah can reek havoc on a defense if JJ can get a bit more accuracy on his passes. The future is Now!

Wouldn't be the first time VT played an emotional game on Monday night then laid an egg to an in-state 1-AA team coming to town.

(It's okay, W&M's offense is a train wreck. You'll be fine.)

After hearing about Liberty taking ODU through the wringer, I'd not take ANY team for granted. The next 4 games all have a false sense of security that I'm dreading. W&M might have the extra emotional charge to give a good send off to their long standing coach, ECU is - well, you never know what they will give us, ODU would be fired up to host in-state big brother in their new stadium, and Duke has played us tough ever since Cutcliff took over. So I really hope we just win those games. Of course, winning with authority would be a nice bonus, but getting to the other side with 4 more Ws and no more injuries would be good enough for me.

No team should be overlooked, but like you said, ODU just lost to Liberty 52-10. We're not losing that game.

I do like to think that Liberty has a decent coach and that his last job wasn't his fault, it's that the school sucks, not him.

Honestly the tune-up games do not have me concerned this year and that's because of how we won Monday night. We didn't win by out-scheming them or running a few trick plays, we played very hard, tough, physical football and we look more lean and athletic than I've seen in a while. IF we bring even half of the intensity we brought to FSU, we'll destroy the next 3. I'll be watching Dook closely bc the jury is still out and that could be a tough one.

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Exactly. My only concern for the next 3 games is injuries to key players in what amounts to throw away games.

With that performance we had best pecker slap Coach Chinballs & his Chopblockers.

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You will see this game, this upset and this sign next on ESPN Sportscenter. Virginia Tech 31 Miami 7

Some observations from the game:
1. What a game! I seen a stat during some point in the telecast where 3/4 or more of the two deep starters were underclassmen (7 first time defensive starters, 9 had two starts or fewer in their careers). It amazes me that there was THAT much youth on the field, and yet the outcome of the game was still securely in our corner from Q1 to Q4. Watts and Farley had amazing games, the 100m speed truly was on full display throughout the game. I was at the front of the line of the disgruntled fan base when Farley moved from WR to CB; however, after last night's performance it showed why I sit on a couch and these coaches sit in plush offices on campus while making great decisions for the betterment of the team. I was so happy for Farley, kid had a rough 365 days (major injury, and the death of a mother in Jan). I was so happy to see the team as a whole cheering him on as he put on a clinic during that game.

2. The 4th and 1 call is the glaring smudge for me, on what was otherwise an amazing game. Up 17-3, we had a chance to push the lead to a 3 score game, yet we went for it. I totally understand that our defense was balling out the entire game, but with so much youth on the field, as a coach you have to put them in a position to succeed. If it weren't for that shoestring tackle by Watts on the Akers run, the reluctancy to go for the field goal truly could've bit us on the back side. The defense not only saved the offense tonight on many of occasions, but they also saved a poor coaching decision. I love Coach Fu, but he's shown this "Mad Hatter" approach to crucial portions of the game. Sometimes they work, but far too often they leave points on the field. Go up 20-3 and even if Akers scores on that long run you're still up by 2 scores. It's the only thing I could be critical about (didn't want to be all rays of sunshine with my observations), on what was otherwise a beautiful game plan.

3. Bud Foster is miracle worker. If he doesn't get a statue in front of the stadium at some point, I might start an online petition and a Go Fund Me page to drum up support for one. He positions these kids for succees and I really feel like without him here, we would not be here in year 3. I am over the moon excited to see what he can do with a plethora of elite talent (Hollifield, Hunter, Watts, Farley, etc). He's always been known to take blue collar talent and make them the best that they can be. I am so happy for him to have been granted the opportunity to do so with elite talent this late into his career. I hope that there is an understudy that he's passing his knowledge on to, because as a program we are going to be in a world of hurt when he walks away from the gig.

4. Shout out to the Hokie Pride on full display. We carried ourselves well on the field, and I couldn't be more proud as an alum. After big plays the kids found a way to have fun, but to do it in a respectful manner. There wasn't any showboating (that I could see) and for the most part the kids stayed in business mode for the duration of the game. There are only two instances that I can think of that were suspect at best. Walker kicked a ball after a major backfield tackle, granted I think he was kicking it back towards the ref, and Hewitt got caught on camera doing a tomahawk chop followed up by a throat slash. I'm sure the coaches will stay on top of the kids about this throughout the season. Humility and staying level headed will surely bold well for this team throughout the season.

5. Oscar freaking Bradburn, that is all...

All in all, all I can say is, Gobble Gobble bishes.

Taggert's post game press conference be like:

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"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

I'm glad you made the point about the team showing respect for the game. There was a beautiful moment when the D almost got a safety, Trevon Hill jumped up and pumped his fist, [I infer that] he saw a flag and heard the official say "unsportsmanlike conduct." He turned to the official pleading that he was just a football player excited in the moment, and [I infer that] the official said, "not you, son, it's on the other team."

"Our job as coaches is to influence young people's lives for the better in terms of fundamental skills, work ethic, and doing the right thing. Every now and again, a player actually has that effect on the coaching staff." Justin Fuente on Sam Rogers

If I remember correctly I believe his hand made a little contact with Francois' helmet as he got up to celebrate and I was ready to be livid at such a soft penalty. My favorite part was his kung fu bow after realizing it was on the offense.

I thought they were calling him for taunting when he touched Francois's helmet too and I was so mad for a couple seconds. If anything I think it was a friendly tap on the helmet like "Nice to see you in the backfield again."

If you watch the hit that Grimsley (I think) put on the FSU player after the Kumah touchdown, all he did was clap, he didn't stand over him or anything, just a tough gritty hit to spring Kumah loose. That play for me embodied the Hokie Pride that was on full display last night.

Edit: Now on the other hand, let's talk about the pre-game shenanigans by the special teams unit and the sidelines trying to be all "lit" for the recruits that were probably in town visiting while trap beats played over the loudspeakers. Talmbout putting on a show with dance moves versus football moves, smh.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

I think he turned toward the endzone we were headed to when he clapped as well.

Now on the other hand, let's talk about the pre-game shenanigans by the special teams unit and the sidelines trying to be all "lit" for the recruits that were probably in town visiting while trap beats played over the loudspeakers.

The amount of contrived fake swag on display at that moment was staggering. It was clear from the start one team came to play, and the other team came to 'get lit'. They tried way, way too hard to be da U last night.

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Exactly, glad that wack arse turnover chain stayed hanging up on the sidelines on Sunday...LOL

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

I actually totally agree with the 4th down call, you get it more often than not, and if you dont the way our defense had been wreaking havoc in their backfield all game you have a really good shot at a safety. If not you keep them pinned in that corner longer and really limit their play calling

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

I think you say that in hindsight Esh, if Akers would've scored that touchdown it would've come down to a one possession game with 11 minutes left to go in the 4th quarter. I don't care how good the defense was playing, kids get tired, and momentum can swing in a split second. There is no way you can convince me that it's a better option to play the odds and go up 21 points (low % of success), versus 17 (high % of success due to proximity of the field goal location). Both require 3 scores, yet a field goal chip shot from the 1 yard line is a hell of a higher percentage. FSU was clearly barreling down on our offensive line at that point, and rolling the dice to only go up an additional 4 points makes no sense to me. Fuente has done this in other games and it's proved to be a bad decision (a GT game comes to mind).

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

You can't really make the argument that its ok in hindsight when you're argument is what then happened in the 4th quarter.

I was all for going for it in the moment. The o-line was getting good pushes and opening running lanes. What I didn't like was why go from the shotgun and put yourselves 3 yards further. And why have Peoples run it when McClease was finding holes so well.

My argument wasn't based on what happened in the 4th quarter, it was solely based upon the youth on the field, and the opportunity at presenting them with a shot at success in a hostile environment. Everything leading up to that call showed that our o-line strength diminished as the quarters changed. We had more than enough opportunities in plus territory to put the game away. We didn't execute, so why not execute at something that has a high percentage of success rather than a lower percentage of success. The score was 17-3, that has nothing to do with the 4th quarter, we were up two scores with the opportunity to go up 3 scores.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

It's hindsight bias to say that going for it was a bad idea. Also, gaining half a yard isn't necessarily a low success rate. Maybe relative to a chip shot field goal, but the way we were running the ball gaining half a yard is statistically favorable. There has been plenty of research done showing teams should be going for it on 4th down more.

https://www.footballstudyhall.com/2017/9/14/16300604/college-football-fo...

Hindsight bias? It's coaching 101! Late in a game, put whatever points you can on the board, period. There is no bias at all. I couldn't disagree with you more. There was a high success rate for a chip shot field goal, versus a offensive line, that at that point in the game, was manhandled by the FSU defensive line. We were running the ball well in the first half, things slowed down considerably during the 3rd quarter in the trenches especially on pass-pro. A majority of tenured coaches will always take an opportunity to make it a multiple scoring drive game, versus the gamble of keeping the game within reach. That's just common sense, not bias.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

I think you're missing the science and data aspect that was posted.
But I heartily agreed with the call at the time. That drive we had moved the ball. The previous play was Peoples breaking a 9.5 yard RUN to get to the half yard line.
Our OL was still creating movement and taking a chance at the final blow was totally worth the risk. I don't 100% like the shotgun draw, would've loved to see a PA-flip to the H back but if he punches it in no one is having this conversation.

I think you're missing the science and data aspect that was posted.

Am I the only one amused by this quote coming from someone named VTflatearther?

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

I'm excited to hear all the salty, butthurt FSU fans start talking about this as a quality loss as the season goes on.

They had lots of practice for that last season...with a 2-5 start.

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Did anyone else have mini heart attacks when Ricky was helped off and then again when he went head to head?

I really thought he and Floyd were done at that point due to concussion protocol (I think it was Floyd that he collided with).

Now that I wont have to eat my words .... I alluded to this in the hatin' thread, Taggarts best win is against temple. His two top 25 wins are against 21 Temple and 22 Navy. That is ridiculous for some one taking over a program that won a NC 5 years ago. I still can't get over how some one with Willie's resume gets that job. FSU must be a incredibly toxic culture. Texas levels of toxicity. Also how has FSU not had an oline for 4 years. I could tell how good Hill was vs how bad they were.

Willie is going to win some games but he needs more time for his offense and defense to get installed.

Willie is going to win some games but he needs more time for his offense and defense to get installed.

Great coaches are able to come in, take what's there and build a plan to use what the existing kids do well, as they phase in their O. We saw an immediate change in the VT O when Fuente & Corn arrived. Is it where he wants? No, because that takes more than a year to implement, but we saw a difference from day 1. If Taggart's "Lethal Simplicity" is anything more than hype, FSU's O has no "1st year coach" excuses, given the talent that's on that team.

What talent? They have a pro-style QB that didn't run the read option before. Their Oline has been horrible for 3 years. There receivers haven't really made a name for themselves. They have Cam Akers and some defensive players. That does not make a team (unless you are LSU).

People said the same thing about RichRod his first year because he had some pocket passer that couldn't run his system. He get Rasheed Marshall and then beats a couple teams (like VT), he gets Pat White and started to win a lot. Saban lost to UAB his first year at LSU, and UL Monroe at Bama. Not everyone can walk into a situation where the defense improves by 4 ppg, has 3 of the all time top 5 pass catchers, 1000 yard back and Sam Rogers.

P.S. I really like Fuente, but VT had a lot to offer on their 2016 roster.

Yup, Taggart hasn't shown anything to warrant the kind of hype they built up. At one point, in the second quarter I think, he looked absolutely shell shocked standing on the sideline. Not that one game can tell us much about a coaches future, but he's got a lot of work to do if he wants to stick there.

So proud of this team. I admit that I had to use my media guide at times (Google) and am so happy for this young team in a very hostile environment. Props to all of the coaches for getting them ready and not letting the stage get to them. Looking forward to {hopefully} watching the next few games with a lower blood pressure with this one out of the way.

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

My favorite part of the Kumah TD was #75 just running past everyone.

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He broke up their flow without actually hitting anybody.

Damn. Is that Mega Jesus running that fast?

Mega Jesus got wheels son.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

I like to envision him yelling for a lateral, lol

I envision him yelling "LEEEEEEEERRRROOOOOYYYYY JENKINS!!!"

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At least he got chicken (unlike Michigan's players).

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its like his controller joystick got stuck in the up position

"Some days you’re a horse and some days you’re a horse’s ass. I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while." - Roy Halladay

Sometimes it's better to not make a hit. Most of the guys in the area had their back turned, at least slightly. All he needed to do was be a body in between. And he did that.

Very quickly.

I love how FSU is throwing around the Laborn cutback and flaunting it like we got burned.

Yall got embarrassed in your own home FSU, get out of here - bunch of smug star kids getting worked.

He knew he better haul ass if he wanted to be in the end zone to celebrate as Kumah scored.

My favorite was Grimsley (6) knocking FSU player #1 into the Gulf of Mexico.

Question for anyone: On that clip, FSU player #99 pursues Kumah down field but veers off at about the 12 yardline to run into Peoples (#36). Do you think he was just taking out his frustration on the closest Hokie or perhaps trying to draw a block in the back penalty to negate the coming touchdown?

I've wondered the same thing. Live, I actually thought it was a block in the back. Obviously not on replay. But I suspect it's a question we'll never get the answer to.

Some observations:
-I can see why the staff likes Hewitt . He gets a quick jump off the ball.
- our team defense speed is off the charts. It's been a long time since there been this much athleticism across the board.
- our o line run blocking seems much better than last couple of years. Pass blocking was iffy .
-I saw a lot of people calling out offense but I think once we were up 17-3 , Fuente was going to call a vanilla offensive game plan to not allow them to come back in the game off one of our mistakes until they could prove they could score on bud . That combined with mistakes was frustrating .
-I'm excited about all young guns they showed up big across the board .

The Hokies travel, but also tune in!
Highest rated regular season game on cables since Alabama-Miss St in Nov 2016.

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Seen this stat, got me hyped to see how we can pull a good television score. Keep in mind though, taking off the O&M glasses a lot of people were watching on an off Labor Day, for a top 20 matchup, with a new coach at a perennial powerhouse school in the south.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Understand...but that also means a lot of people saw Hokie Nation, in a big win, on the road, with a bunch of quality young men doing their thing. They did us Hokies proud!
And the Hokies chant in the 4th quarter was priceless.

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Completely agree, getting free press I'll take everyday and twice on Sundays.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

And thrice on Monday?

Bingo. They tuned in to watch FSU's new hotness, and instead they were treated to a Bud Foster scripted bloodbath. And that's all that the pollsters are going to remember between now and our next national telecast, which likely won't be until Duke or ND.

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id like to go into the ND game without have given up a TD which in reality is VERY possible. ECU is complete dumpster fire losing to NCA&T, W&M only beat bucknell 14-7, and ODU got blown out 52-10 by liberty, Duke looked ok against army but If we play D like we did last night. #1 defense in the country going into the ND game.

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Wanna win put boobie in! Let boobie spin coach!

I don't shudder at any of those games with the exception of an always well coached Duke game. Let's pump the brakes on a looking too far ahead though, I think a lot of the defensive domination was due to offensive miscues and poor playcalling last night. I'm not saying we didn't deserve to dominate that team, but I think there will always be growing pains with underclassmen who start.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Although we dominated the lines of scrimmage, it was really our ability to make the big play at the right time which amazes me. For a majority of the game FSU was one play away from a one score game and momentum at their bak.

Damned if FSU knows how we felt after Bristol. Shoulda-coulda-woulda.

I'll leave you with the following question and a final comment:

1. with Francois' cannon, how do you think he would have done under Coach FU?
2. if teams need help in how to beat us schematically, just take a look over at the Sabre. It is rich with know how.


He says our defense is small and fast. He is half right.

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#extendbronco

There's more posts in that thread than at the LOLUVA spring whatever it is.

My favorite was the person rationalizing that based on their win over Richmond vs our win over FSU, they would definitely be finishing ahead of us in the Coastal. Smug is one thing, but that's a special brand of stupid.

Damned if FSU knows how we felt after Bristol. Shoulda-coulda-woulda.

Disagree. After Bristol, I felt we had outplayed Tennessee, but lost due to the five fumbles, two of them inside the five.

There's no way that FSU is thinking they outplayed us.

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Eh, if you pay attention to the S&P+ rankings and the advanced stats behind it, you could make the argument that the game should have been a toss-up due to us gaining ~27 points from "turnover luck". We recovered all 6 fumbles on the night (which are generally 50/50 as to which team recovers), which is essentially what Tennessee did to us, and we got the 3 picks with only 3 other passes deflected (I think the general conversion rate is ~25%, not the 50% we got).

https://www.footballstudyhall.com/2018/9/4/17819430/college-football-sta...

Considering all of the above, we should have expected a turnover margin to be about even, instead of the +5 that we got. Apparently a +5 "turnover luck" stat is the largest for any game since 2015, so we shouldn't expect this kind of turnover domination every week.

That said, the fact that we were leading and generally in control of the game certainly affected the offensive playcalling, so I'm not saying that we would have lost with less "turnover luck", but if I tried to put myself in their shoes I could see how they might think they would have won the game if they hadn't continually shot themselves in the foot with these mistakes.

I would argue that the +20.8 fp margin was also worth something (and not all of that was due to turnovers).

We need to give some love for the big guy getting an interception at the end of the game. Absolute HANDS!

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Duke Game:

Im reviewing the highlights but does anyone else think that Ladler will keep Hunter off the field again this year 5star or not?

This game reminded me of the Bama Clemson game in 2008. Everyone thought Clemson (with Bowden at the helm) would destroy a newly resurrected Bama with Saban. Ppl watched that game to see how Clemson would do and (shockingly) saw how they got destroyed by Bama. Bama never looked back after that.

Hopefully this is our spring board too.

This is what LPD AND DBU is. He never gave up on the play. He ran farther and fast than Akers did and a few players later Tech has the ball froma fumble.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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Truly a thing of beauty, and the payoff on the ensuing red zone plays just shows why 100% effort on every play truly matters.

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Wonder If Levonta Taylor & Landon Dickerson second guessing decision to play at FSU. Glad they didn't though, Dickerson looked bad & Taylor a little short for DBU

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Levonta's not always that short. He just had a little run-in with Hezakiah.

We are not as good as they made us look. Not sure if I should be excited or nervous that our defense is ahead of our offense at this point. I feel like the offensive scheme is better than the offensive play calling. Especially on third and medium, where I am not sure if it was the call or the QB, but the deep routes were in single coverage, and sometimes had separation, but we threw to the sticks into tighter coverage every time.

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

HOW BOUT' DEM HOKIES!?!

Couldn't be happier with the overall performance last night. I will admit, during the game I was upset that the offense went empty handed during those 4 consecutive possessions starting in FSU territory, however, in retrospect I think that playing the field position game and keeping them pinned down inside the 10 really handcuffed FSU and prevented them from hitting a big play to shift the momentum until Akers got loose. I will say, I would've liked to see us take the FG instead of making the 4 & goal attempt.

Offense was encouraging those first two drives. Love how the play calling was mixed up early in the game. I wish we could've seen more of McClease. I think this kid could be a 100yd/game rusher and seems to have the burst to break a big run at any time. I thought the o-line held up well and opened some nice running lanes early in the game. I love the size of Hazelton and Kumah. Good look locking down these two monsters on the outside. Grimsley has really bulked up and I liked the aggression he played with all night. Loved seeing him knock Taylor on his ass on Kumah's TD. I think he and Savoy will be a great duo in the slot this year. And how about Tre Turner with that clutch catch to change field position? WR room is promising this year. I think JJ did a great job protecting the ball. I would have liked to see him move the chains more consistently, but I think most of the struggle here was Fuente pulling back the reins and playing conservatively due to way the defense was dominating the game. I think that the ability of this offense to gel over the next four weeks is the most critical aspect to the success of the team this year.

Special teams were phenomenal. Correct me if I'm wrong but every kickoff was a touchback. Great play by Cunninghan on the blocked punt. Bradburn was such a weapon for us last night and I predict he will be the rest of the season. Great hangtime and ability to gauge distance on all of his punts really allows our guys to field those punts deep in opponent territory.

Young guys on defense were stellar. Ricky was a wrecking ball as expected (beyond nervous when he went down grabbing his knee). Hewitt showed tremendous burst and was living in the backfield. Hill is looking like the best DE we've seen since Jason Worilds - absolute monster. Loved the effort from the younger guys on the D Line, especially Belmar and Garbutt. Linebackers were solid all night. Love the physicality Rivers and Ashby brought. Ladler was all over the place and was co-defensive POG with Caleb Farley. Farley was phenomenal and will be a ballhawk corner for years to come. Floyd made plenty of timely tackles and Watts displayed tremendous hustle and grit all night. Deablo continues to cover so much ground and was solid all night. I hope we can see more of Hunter over the next month. I think he's too talented to be on the sideline. I trust Bud will find a way to get this dynamic athlete on the field.

Maybe it's just me but I feel like this defense has a certain swag about them that has been missing for years. They just played angry last night. Love the way they celebrate with each other after big plays. I think these guys have listened to the doubters all summer and embraced the underdog role. How great would it be for this young unit to be a top 10 group at the end of the year with so much talent likely returning? So pumped about the potential!

Top 25 win on the road against a "big dog" with the most viewers for any regular season game in 2 years. These are the kind of wins we need to change national perception of VT and elevate us back into that upper echelon of programs. Nothing like stomping FSU in prime time to boost your perception among recruits. Let's get back to work and get ready for William & Mary!

GO HOKIES

Nice post. I was so fired up about the way our defense buzzed around the field that I overlooked how well we punted. Bradburn was huge last night giving us great field position all game long.

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

Let's get back to work

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

I'm very excited about the win. Nearly as excited after the OSU win when I talked to my buddy for two hours about making the playoff. We finished 7-6. This is a different team, but let's avoid the rat poison. FSU won 7 games last year, starting qb came off an ACL and they installed a new offense. Nearly all bounces literally went our way. Stoked about the teams future but this team is only one game older then they and let's not feed to the rat poison.

I can't wait to get home and watch the game again via the Marty Mega Cast. And then just fall asleep during it.

All right. While we're still under a caution, I want you to go back out on that track and hit the pace car.

Hit the pace car?

Hit the pace car!

What for?

Because you've hit every other goddamned thing out there, I want you to be perfect!

It's crazy to think we had a freshman starting on the OLine as well. Very proud

"Welcome to the Terror Dome." -- Corey Moore

Was Darrisaw over Dsanzi a surprise?

Yes... did Dzansi even play? What happened?

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

Pretty sure he did not play. Fuente alluded to chronic cramping issues the week prior to the game leading to Darrisaw starting. Since he was playing well, they chose to not make a change. I believed he said both are expected to play Saturday

Reminded me of Jonathan McLaughlin, when he started as a true freshman against Alabama in 2013. Bud was quoted then as saying he hoped they (the younger guys) didn't "get all big-eyed and pee their pants", or something to that effect.

"Tajh Boyd over the middle . . . and it's caught for an interception! Michael Cole, lying flat on his back, ARE YOU KIDDING???"

What was stunning to me was that Bud had no safety help over the top with press coverage on FSU WR's with his freshman CB's. And the coaches review film on ESPN showed Farley and Watts running step for step with them. He no doubt has supreme confidence in their speed and coverage skills.

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

you can't see it because the shot cuts it off, but, in the headline photo, Ricky's wearing the infinity gauntlet on his left hand.

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