Bud did a podcast with Grassroots Digital Marketing Studio. A look into how things have changed over the years and how he is enjoying retirement. Bud starts around the 18:23 mark. It should be the first video on the link.
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Just finished listening as well. The part on how social media allows college coaches to bypass high school coaches and parents when initiating contact with a recruit is something I never thought about. His comments on Hudl are pretty obvious; interesting to hear him say that if Cam Chancellor was being recruited today, the he'd have offers from Bama and OSU, and might even being playing in a spread offense.
Your point about Chancellor I think is where it started to fall apart for Beamer. Tech was very good at evaluating underrated talent before there were a bunch of camps, social media, and all these video services. There are still diamonds in the rough, but not like what there used to be.
Yeap. A diamond in the rough used to be a recruit who was good, but no one knew about just because his high school coach didn't talk him up enough, or he was at low-profile location, etc, but those who saw him knew he could play.
Nowadays, a diamond in the rough is someone who got injured and missed senior year, or they hit a growth spurt late in their high school career, or they have only been devoted to football for a short period of time - basically guys with high upside, but lots of unknowns.
TLDR - a 'diamond in the rough' is much bigger risk today than it was 10-15 years ago.
So you're telling me a bunch of 3 stars won't win the ACC? Get outta here
This is a 5 star comment
From what I understand Beamer was a master class at winning over recruits moms, so the comments Bud made about being able to bypass the parents via social media is big as well. I think it has been mentioned that Beamer winning over Vick's mom was a big reason he ended up at Tech and not at Syracuse.
This x1,000.
To me, this more than any other factor explains the downfall of VT football since that golden 1999 season and MNC appearance. The recruiting game has forever changed, making it near impossible for VT to find as many diamonds in the rough.
It was also our prior staffs relationship with coaches in Virginia (Coach Cav was the master at this) that we used to leverage finding these diamonds in the rough...that relationship is LONG gone now. I still believe that was a big part of it. I remember going to NOVA recruiting events featuring Cav where he would tell us if a certain head coach hadn't told us about some kid we'd have never known about him and wouldn't have been the first ones to offer (which sometimes can be a huge advantage). Danny Coale was a prime example of this.
I think another thing that isn't covered a lot with recruiting these days is TV coverage. You can go to a small school now and still get on the TV and have film out there. Before, you wanted to get into a known program because you wouldn't have that opportunity.
I mean, thats why VT became big, they pushed the Thursday night game and got that media coverage when otherwise they would not have.
I think this goes for basketball too. You can now get better kids to go to smaller programs, because they know they will have a shot. Shoot, Pimpleton may be better off now and have more chance at the NFL then he would have ever at VT.
God I miss the Thursday night games, what I would give to be in lane on a rainy Thursday night against miami right now
I agree......But not Boston College.
Still a better season, than any Fuente has had here.
We finished 3rd in the BCS lol, it was a better season than almost every team in the country has had.
I don't say that as a defense of Fuente, but in 2007 we were literally a pick six in the SECCG away from a national title appearance.
Yup the computers absolutely loved us that season.
This is essentially what the MAC is doing now with the Tuesday and Wednesday night games. Unless you're in the AAC, the MAC might actually be the best G5 conference to be in right now.
So, social media and the internet killed recruiting for other than the top tier schools? Time for some fake news to blow it all up.
No, it changed the recruiting game, and top tier programs, with the money to support them, have exploited it.
That's not fake news. It's the news.
This is an awesome interview. It also inadvertently led me to download a Coach Vass (pre-existing scheme Twitter follow for me) podcast with Bud Foster that is very in depth on scheme and the changes to the Bud defense over time.
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Anyone else read the rumors that if Shane takes the head position at USCe that one of the candidates for DC could be Bud and this site https://sportstalksc.com/2020/12/03/gamecocks-coaching-search-spit-blog-...
And says Bud is "itching" to get back into coaching.... If this is true and hes really itching to coach again why not have Whit gauge his interest in coming back as our head coach.
My 2 cents - I don't see how he comes back as a DC anywhere. He'd maybe try and get a HC job somewhere, but not DC
if Foster comes back as a HC option for us, I wonder what he'd do wrt defense - let JHam do his own scheme?