According to Max Olson and Bruce Feldman at The Athletic, more than 2,100 players have entered the portal since August 2020, and about two-thirds of those are scholarship players. [1] Think about that for a second – there are over 2,100 players in the portal in less than a calendar year – and that doesn't include the guys who had previously entered and never found a home. The transfer portal is college football's beautiful mess. Often derided and not entirely understood, what should we make of Virginia Tech's portal use in general?
Since the portal officially started in 2018, Virginia Tech has lost 43 players to the portal while only gaining 15 players. The players lost include:
| Position | Name | Ranking | New Team |
|---|---|---|---|
| Quarterback | Hendon Hooker | 0.8903 | Tennessee * |
| Quincy Patterson | 0.9048 | NDSU *** | |
| Josh Jackson | 0.8773 | Maryland * | |
| Running Back | Terius Wheatley | 0.8273 | - |
| Caleb Steward | 0.8424 | - | |
| Wide Receiver | Darryle Simmons | 0.8824 | Stephen F Austin *** |
| Elijah Bowick | 0.8709 | NC A&T *** | |
| Tyree Saunders | 0.8614 | East Carolina ** | |
| Evan Fairs | 0.8167 | - | |
| Damon Hazelton | 0.7917 | Missouri * | |
| DeJuan Ellis | 0.8736 | Maryland * | |
| Jacoby Pinckney | 0.891 | App St. ** | |
| Phil Patterson | 0.861 | - | |
| Hezekiah Grimsley | 0.8559 | Hampton? *** | |
| Eric Kumah | 0.8641 | ODU -> ? ** | |
| Sean Savoy | 0.8603 | Maryland * | |
| Sam Denmark | 0.8565 | Coastal Carolina ** | |
| Tight End | Chris Cunningham | 0.8403 | ODU ** |
| Offensive Line | Doug Nester | 0.9519 | West Virginia * |
| Bryan Hudson | 0.9189 | Louisville * | |
| TJ Jackson | 0.8099 | Ohio ** | |
| John Harris | 0.8561 | Mercer *** | |
| Joe Kane | 0.8514 | Elon *** | |
| Louis Mihota | - | St. Francis (PA) *** | |
| D'Andre Plantin | 0.8345 | North Texas ** | |
| Defensive Line | Dashawn Crawford | 0.852 | Southern Miss ** |
| Justin Beadles | 0.8519 | - | |
| Zion DeBose | 0.8496 | Buffalo ** | |
| Jaevon Becton | 0.8622 | - | |
| Robert Porcher | 0.8584 | NC A&T *** | |
| Houshun Gaines | 0.8418 | - | |
| Nathan Proctor | 0.84 | - | |
| Trevon Hill | 0.8766 | Miami * | |
| Cam Goode | 0.8745 | UCF ** | |
| Darius Fullwood | 0.8711 | William & Mary *** | |
| Linebacker | Rico Kearney | 0.8538 | UCF -> ? ** |
| Tavante Beckett | 0.8462 | Marshall ** | |
| Defensive Back | Tyree Rodgers | 0.8462 | - |
| Jeremy Webb | 0.8979 | Missouri State *** | |
| Khalil Ladler | 0.8727 | LA Tech ** | |
| Bryce Watts | 0.8479 | UNC* -> UMass | |
| DJ Crossen | - | JUCO -> NC A&T *** | |
| Kicker | Jordan Stout | - | Penn State * |
* - Power Five school
** - Group of Five school
*** - FCS or JUCO school
"-" - no new team found
This equates to:
- 10 players transferring to Power Five schools (with 1 of those players later transferring to a G5 school)
- 13 players going to G5 schools (with 2 of those players reentering the portal and not finding a team)
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- Cannot find confirmation on Kumah, but one of those aggregating twitter/portal accounts said he had entered at some point last year.
- 11 players going to FCS schools and JUCO
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- This does count Grimsley who reportedly enrolled at Hampton University but was never on the roster and did not compete in 2020
- And 9 players who have yet to join another team from the portal (and could include multiple players who have left their first school and did not rejoin another team).
Average Ranking (only include players ranked out of high school):
- Power 5 Transfers: .8765 (outlier is Hazelton)
- Group of 5 Transfers: .8543
- FCS/JUCO Transfers: .8741
- No new team: .8445
If you multiple the average ranking per transfer group with the percent of players per transfer group you'll find that most of the talent transferred to:
- G5: largest portion of transfers, with a mid-three star rating.
- Nowhere: second largest portion of transfers, with lower-mid three-star rank
- P5: third largest portion of transfers, highest ratings
- FCS/JUCO: smallest portion of transfers, second-highest ratings
The outcomes of said players are more subjective, however here is my take. There are 8 players whose outcomes are TBD (Hooker, QP, Saunders, Beadles, Crawford, Pinckney, Nester, and Hudson). Of those, I have concerns that Saunders, Crawford, and Pinckney might bust with their new teams. Crawford because of injury history, Saunders for rumors about buy-in (if he had trouble off the field with partying, ECU is not the place to go), and Pinckney for lack of buy-in. Pinckney has yet to see the field after sitting one. I believe that Nester is most likely to succeed. I think Hudson has a good chance as well. Hooker has to win the starting job (which is not guaranteed) otherwise he is a bust in my opinion. QP is the hardest to project because NDSU is a powerhouse that makes great use of strong running quarterbacks. QP has the size and arm strength to succeed but does he have enough accuracy even for NDSU? Time will tell. Justin Beadles is TBD despite not signing with a team because he just entered and I feel has the talent to find a new team.
There are four players I have question marks for include Travon Hill, Cam Goode, Damon Hazelton, and Samuel Denmark. I don't think there is any situation where Travon Hill would have come back, but he is definitely a guy I would take back if possible (hence why he isn't in my want-back group). Cam Goode seems to have figured things out at UCF, but I'm not sure he does that without failing at Virginia Tech. Damon Hazelton played at three high schools and three colleges before going to the NFL, I'm not sure what that says about his ability to stay in one place. Samuel Denmark was quietly a solid fifth receiver on Coastal Carolina last year, but I had always assumed he was a pure track guy.
There are guys who I would take back or are trending upwards: Jeremy Webb, Khalil Ladler, Jordan Stout, Tavante Beckett. Webb seemed to bounce back well after his two massive injuries in FCS, but would it be enough for ACC – I have no idea? Khalil Ladler played fine for Louisiana Tech, but I would imagine he would have been useful last year. Jordan Stout when allowed to be more than a kickoff specialist played well for Penn State. Tavante Beckett was more a situation of circumstance but had a strong career at Marshall. Obviously would take back Nestor and Hudson, but those seem like bridges that were burned and not coming back.
The rest of the players (27 in total) seem to be busts. Wheatley, Fairs, Rodgers, Steward, Patterson, Grimsley, Gaines, Proctor, and Becton are busts for not finding teams (though Fairs, Wheatley, and Rodgers presumably still have a chance). Simmons and Gaines seem more like injuries may have derailed things (Webb and Crawford could also be in here) Bowick, Harris, Kane, Mihota, Porcher, Crossen, and Fullwood went down to FCS and were not impact players (could change for Bowick, but there are potentially other issues as well). TJ Jackson, DeBose, Plantin, and Cunningham seem to be development busts or misevaluations. Watts, Kearney, Savoy, Kumah, Josh Jackson, and Ellis seem to be both evaluation and development busts as these players went to G5/P5 schools and had opportunities to prove themselves and didn't.
Of the players we've brought in through the portal, it has not been enough to offset the losses. The losses I think are more of a sheer volume of lost players than it is the talent, although there was some considerable talent lost. What has compounded this transferring issue is that the incoming transfers are fewer in numbers and it coincides with a downturn in recruiting. Most of the new transfers are for 2021 and therefore are TBD. Of the 2021 transfers, 4 of the 5 are P5 transfers (Blumrick, Jordan, Williams, and Daley – the last three with starting experience) one is a G5 (McCary, a freshman with potential). Also includes two preferred walk-ons in Jared Cole (RB, UMass) and Will Ross (K, SCAR). In general, we've mostly targeted P5 players out of the portal, with only McCray, Hoffman, Taylor, Reed, and Hodge as non-P5 players. However, even Justus Reed originally from the University of Florida.
The only unmitigated success is Khalil Herbert. Raheem Blackshear had an off-year, but I think still has the potential to succeed in 2021 as a multithread player. Burmeister will have a full season to prove himself as the unquestioned starter. Brock Hoffman has had his ups and downs on the field (not counting whatever happened between him, his family, and Bryan Hudson on Twitter). Justus Reed wasn't the difference-maker I'd hoped in a somewhat unfair situation, so I won't truly label him as a bust (but was trending towards that at times). Changa Hodge seemed to be in a similar unforgiving situation, but with the ACL tear, I fear his future at VT may be over. Devin Taylor came around late but certainly was not the impact player that many hoped from the FCS All-American. Evan Fairs was a great downfield blocker, but that was about it – and he is currently in the portal.
Moving forward, Virginia Tech will need to do a better job in the portal of finding young players with upside (like McCray) and limiting the sheer exodus of players. I'm not sure how that is necessarily possible as the portal continues to grow each year and with the current COVID-driven scholarship crunch. Limiting the recruiting evaluation misses should help, getting young players onto the field should coincide with that.
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| Year | Name | Pos | HS Rnk | Trn Rnk | Team Out |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2021 | Connor Blumrick | QB | 0.8462 | - | TAMU |
| 2021 | Jared Cole (PWO) | RB | 0.8092 | - | UMass |
| 2021 | Johnny Jordan | OL | 0.8493 | 0.81 | UMD |
| 2021 | Jordan Williams | DL | 0.9299 | 0.86 | Clem |
| 2021 | CJ McCray | LB | - | - | Mar |
| 2021 | Tae Daley | DB | 0.8488 | 0.82 | Vandy |
| 2021 | Will Ross (PWO) | K | - | - | SCAR |
| 2020 | Khalil Herbert | RB | 0.7985 | 0.91 | KU |
| 2020 | Raheem Blackshear | RB/WR | 0.8248 | 0.88 | RU |
| 2020 | Evan Fairs | WR | 0.8167 | - | KU |
| 2020 | Changa Hodge | WR | - | - | Nova |
| 2020 | Justus Reed | DL | 0.8503 | 0.85 | YGST |
| 2020 | Devin Taylor | DB | - | - | Ill. St |
| 2019 | Braxton Burmeister | QB | 0.8941 | - | OR |
| 2019 | Brock Hoffman | OL | 0.758 | 0.84 | CC |
Including a table of transfer-ins under the portal. Does not include kicker Romo and Hoban, Dillion Spaulding who did not make the roster. Otherwise, everyone is from the 247 transfer portal page.

Comments
Herbert was a beast last year. One of the best transfer successes we've seen in recent years. I can't help but to think that Blackshear would have put up more numbers with a little more action on the field last year. Hope to see him hit a groove this season.
Thanks for doing all that research. Top notch.
Looking at the incoming portal transfers, I see
2019:
Brock Hoffman - Starter as soon as he was eligible, mean streak player who's gotten into trouble a few times
John Parker Romo - Kickoff Specialist who will probably be taking over the FG/XP duties this season
Braxton Burmeister - Expected starter for 2021
2020:
Khalil Herbert - 1000 yard season, Selected in the NFL Draft
Raheem Blackshear - 400 total yards, began to show flashes towards the end of the season
Justus Reed - averaged about a TFL and a half sack per game.
Devin Taylor - 2 INT, 55 tackles last year
2021:
Connor Blumrick - Projected 3rd (by me), could be used in run formations
Johnny Jordan - Should be 2 deep, if not starting. I think he'll be a good replacement for Nester or Hudson
Jordan Williams - Should be starting. I'm hoping he'll be the impact player to get the middle of that defense stonewalling runners.
Tae Daley - Should provide good depth, if not starting quality ability at Safety.
Forgot about the kickers cause I was trying to find if Romo and the kid from Rice were walk-ons or not. Also initially wanted to include potential replacement comps for players leaving, but this was a lot of work as-is. Thanks for adding some stats to the mix.
I know Reed only averaged a TFL and a half a sack a game, but that seemed lightyears ahead of our DE production from some previous years.
A couple more quick thoughts:
I wanted to elaborate on this - Here's the link to the 2021 transfer portal. You'll notice that HH was a .8903 out of HS, but is now a .8300.
That's low for a proven P5 starter, imo, but I'm sure their reasoning has more to do with what he has shown (or not shown) as a passer, which is probably negatively impacted by our very simplistic passing system.
I would say he should be in the .85 to .87 range.
Really excellent work, I'm sure this was extremely time-consuming.
Not that I would wish this upon anyone, but I would be very interested in an analysis of team-by-team P5 portal losses...how many were successful at another P5 school? I would bet it is a very low percentage (and also very subjective).
From a VT standpoint, the results have obviously been mixed but my major takeaway is just the sheer volume. A net of -28 is hard to sustain for damn near anybody.
I will spare everyone a novella of Fuente-bashing, but will say this..whether the net result is due to inability of this Staff to retain players or due to recurrent missed evaluations, it is a major problem.
Edit: fat fingers
There are a couple of things I want to look at in the future, but this is one of them. Net -28 is bad. No sugarcoating it. I think the major takeaway for me was namely that the micro view at each individual recruit might mitigate some of the factors, but the macro view of the whole situation is just not sustainable.
The question is how does this compare to other teams? 2,100 kids in the portal last year - we can't be the only one's going down double-digit scholarship players...
Just for fun I looked at some other ACC schools portal transactions in 2021:
Definitely an interesting topic. It seems like the effect of the Portal is very Program-specific.
Just from the numbers above, both BC and Clemson have nets that are similar to VT, but the situations are quite different.
BC has a new coach who is felt to be a good Recruiter so turnover would be expected as he tries to mold the Program.
Clemson is a unique scenario where the majority of attrition is due to guys buried on the depth chart who were well regarded out of HS and want to see the field. And Clemson probably has little interest in taking 3* developmental players from other programs, so their intake of portal players will be low.
VT has an established HC and has several positions with real lack of depth on the Roster, having this kind of net loss to the Portal doesn't seem to compute or compare.
Cam Goode is an interesting situation. Can't remember if he was thrown off the team or if he left of his own volition. I do remember reading about him showing up to camp grossly out of shape his freshman year and the coaching staff lighting into him for a lack of focus.
Seems like he turned a corner at UCF per this article. I agree with the OP, it's hard to tell if he would have had the same trajectory if he stayed at VT.
My recollection was he wanted out but nobody argued. There were stories about him feeling like all the conditioning was overkill, which is a bit ironic when you read the article. If Wiles had chased him all over the field during practice would he have stayed? Who knows.
We need to do better job with the WR recruiting. Its too many guys transferring out, and guys want to have more catches so just getting numbers is not enough. We need to start getting high quality 4-star wide receivers with good character. Its simply too much turnover at a position which already struggles in College due to QB running ability. But in the NFL its a QB/Passing league, and WRs want to get to the next level so we need to really get the right guys in that position.
Getting good wide receivers starts with recruiting and developing good quarterbacks. No 4*+ WR wants to come to a program where the QB can't get him the ball consistently.
It's like recruiting big men in basketball - those 5* centers want to play with an elite PG that can get him the rock.
This makes a lot of sense. Failing to get good QB play has been one of the biggest head-scratchers with this coaching staff. I think they were able to bring in some pretty decent WRs early on but they all transferred out (perhaps because the QB play wasn't great and they wanted to go somewhere they would get better delivery service). I really don't think Burmeister is going to light the world on fire but it's been quite a long time since this staff has had a QB who was clearly the QB1 in the pre-season camps. If he makes leaps and bounds as a passer and the coaches can prove on the field that they know what they're doing with QBs that figures to help tremendously.
The QB conundrum is interesting. Fuente has brought in 4 four-star QBs in his five years: Jerod Evans, Hendon Hooker, Quincy Patterson, and Braxton Burmeister - yet only one looked the part. Still hope for BB, plus I think one of Farrell or Orji gets a fourth star.
Like the NFL, it seems you need a cornerstone guy (4* seems to be the floor in P5) and they need to play ASAP. But it seems to be harder than ever to find THE GUY, and that applies to everyone. Look at Hooker in Tennessee now, he's in a huge QB competition with Joe Milton, Harrison Bailey, and Brian Maurer. Two P5 transfers, a top 100 QB prospect, and a 3* guy who is labeled "the most natural passer of the group" according to SI.
Look at Auburn: Bo Nix a 5* being challenged by Dematrius Davis (high 4*) and now TJ Finley (3* with experience from LSU). This was a room that pushed out Joey Gatewood (high 4* now at Kentucky) and Malik Willis (high 3* now getting mocked as a potential first-round QB). Getting someone in the building, and getting them to stay 2+ years seems nigh impossible, and I know these aren't the only three schools with that problem.
QB is tough man because only one of them gets to play on the field at one time. If you recruit multiple 4*+ into the program and they're similar-aged, the ones who don't start are going to transfer at some point. IMHO the "best" depth chart you can hope to have these days (if you're not Alabama/Clemson/Oklahoma etc.) is something like:
QB1: Unquestioned starter, NFL draft pick
QB2: Veteran upperclassmen who can run the offense in a pinch (e.g. an older version of Knox)
QB3: High pedigree freshman who is ready to take over when QB1 goes to the NFL
This has always seemed like the single biggest recruiting gap in the Fuente era. A top flight QB would solve MANY problems with offensive productivity. We have wondered on here what Fuente's offense might have looked like with a Tyrod or MV7 at the helm. The challenge is that a top flight passing AND running QB is hard to come by for a mid-level program like VT. In my opinion, we must find one, though, if we want to get over the hump. Just gve me one!
Firstly Thanks for putting this together.
My assessment on the Wide Receivers was purely based on the numbers. Yes, I agree with all of you on the QB situation (putting it lightly). I know this is one of the hardest positions to recruit and to get it right. Since Tyrod, we really haven't had a multi-year QB with prolific outcomes. Even Logan Thomas as good a QB as he was, after one starting year of winning 10+ games we didn't have that dominance in the next 2 years. We just haven't been able to compete with the big boys or get the right 4-star.
Was Fuente trying to get another Evans in Hooker and QP?, and were Hooker and QP really 4-stars? Some of you mentioned development of a QB and to a certain extent I think we can develop one but they need to have the "IT Factor", the coaches can really only thrown in a few things to help them improve. Speaking of Coaches, what I liked in the old days was having a separate QB Coach. It might not make sense now that we have both Corn and Fu who both used to be QBs but still there was something to that back in the Kevin Rogers days.
I'm also not happy about UNC coming in and grabbing top guys out of 757 or Virginia in general. We need to keep our guys here
Good stuff here. Thanks for all the work you put into it. I'm sure it was quite a task.
I think it's a bit too early to draw any real conclusions but it is definitely a fascinating exercise. On the surface, -28 looks pretty bad but with the upcoming Covid crunch it might not be so bad that we're bleeding early. Hard to say for sure.
I also think the Covid crunch is going to hurt a lot of transfer players. I think there is likely to be way more players in the portal than there are spots on rosters. I think it will be interesting to see how that impacts the Portal (both functionally, and also how it is perceived by coaches/players/fans)
I think it will take a few years for coaches to figure out how best to maximize the Portal. I don't necessarily think Fuente and his staff have done a particularly good or bad job utilizing the Portal but hopefully they've made enough mistakes early on to learn from and take advantage moving forward. I said in another thread that if Fuente can master the Portal faster than other coaches that might give him the leg up he needs to find some success here. I don't think that's really likely but its all I've got to hope for at this point.
I think some of what we are seeing is normal attrition highlighted by portal announcements. Remember that 1/3 of every class will bust. Some of those busts are exiting with a portal announcement where in years past we just wouldn't have heard the name again until rosters came out. Now the sheer number at VT indicates something different is happening in Blacksburg. I do think Fuente is pro movement to find the best fit. But, as the article shows, not all the transfers out were necessarily bad fits. We need to figure out how to develop and retain the middle 1/3 group of recruits. And, the top 1/3 recruits need to be of a higher caliber.
This is excellent work and not just because it backs up my gut feeling I mentioned in the Beadles thread.
This almost makes me wonder if mining the portal for players who don't stick at a P5 after a year could be a reasonable-enough-if-you-squint facsimile of the prep school approach that Beamer employed, which Brockman detailed in his recent excellent analysis.
The big issue is the scholly/roster crunch. But if you can supplement each freshman recruiting class with 1-3 young portal contributors, like we used to with the prep schools, that could be a big step towards having better success with development.
The big issue with that is that we need also to keep the players we bring in bought in... A ridiculously large net negative differential between players out and in is difficult to overcome and does not exactly inspire confidence in the staff to reverse that moving forward.
If you can't recruit at a high level (consistently Top-20 classes), you are left with findings option on how to compete.
You can become a "developmental program" and try and bring in lower-rated guys with lots of potential. But social media, Hudl, ect. has made finding (and more importantly keeping) those diamonds in the rough much more difficult. Even more so, the advent of the Transfer Portal has made it increasingly difficult to convince guys to hang with a Program for 2-3 years with the expectation of not seeing the field until Jr. year or so. You have to be able to really, really sell your vision well to keep guys engaged if they aren't seeing the field (that or have Bama-level success at putting guys in the NFL). I guess this is where Fuente's comment about being the "best developmental program" never really sat well with me; its an increasingly difficult proposition and his track record in selling his vision hasn't exactly been stellar....maybe everybody else finds "GRIT" super motivating, but somehow I doubt that.
Another option is to mine the Portal and try to find guys to contribute and fill out your roster there. But, to me, that's largely the best most teams are going to do in the Portal---fill holes. Let's be honest, if a things are working out for a player at their Original school, there's not much reason to be in the Portal in the first place. Yes, there will be some Khalil Herbert's in the TP sometimes, but that is largely going to be the exception and not the rule. Trying to make up for shortcomings in Recruiting by becoming "2nd Chance U," doesn't seem like a realistic strategy for success.
This is really where I can't understand what our goals are at this point. We are apparently a Developmental Program but don't really excel at the basics that are necessary to make that work. And we have had some success in the Portal but have obviously lost way more player to the Portal than gained, which undermines the idea of being a Developmental Program even more.
For what it's worth, I do think this could be a thing for the next two years. Giving everyone who played in 2020 an extra season of eligibility, but only giving scholarship relief for one is going to create some friction in the future.
This also seems to be backed up by the trend that there is no depth after the starters. Bring in 1-3 guys that can and do contribute, but behind them there are 3-5 'vacant' spots per position group from players leaving via the portal.
SI Transfer Portal Article from Feb
I'm sure that this old news for some but it seemed relevant to this conversation. Some interesting ideas to try and shift talent from the powerhouses coming out of the BIG12. I think they'll have better luck with an expanded playoff and guaranteed spots for conference champions vs this idea -
I've never thought of it that way but thats a hell of a good idea to me if you want to try and add parity in in a somewhat fair way. Only concern would be eventual injuries plaguing a team do to lack of bodies maybe but I could get behind that idea.
I am not certain how well it would even work. Bama could field a better team than us right now with a 40 scholarship limit. 25% of their classes are ***** players.
Didn't Hazelton arrive to VT through the portal?
No, he transferred from Ball State after the 2016 season and sat out the 2017 season. The portal didn't officially start until 2018. Same reason why Ryan Willis is not on the list either - transferred before the portal started.
The portal isn't some magical thing though. Transfers are transfers in my opinion. Just less marketing required with the portal.
I think the Portal allows for (a lot?) less red tape though. Players can leave one team and play for another in the same calendar year.
All this tells me that the portal is taking away more than it is giving, common thread under this regime...
Maybe in quantity but not in quality, is the takeaway that I'm seeing. Who has left Tech and blown up?
At the P5 level? Nobody, yet
At the FBS level? Nobody
At the FCS level? Nobody, yet
At Div2 or lower? Nobody
They don't have to blow up elsewhere to be a net loss for our program if we aren't replacing them with someone better.
Nail on the head. I don't particularly care how the players do once they leave. The impact on our team is the better metric.
Unfortunately, we'll never have a control group to say whether or not we were better off with them than without them.
I don't think we're replacing players, per se, except maybe the OL this year with Jordan. The rest, it appears, the coaches are looking for immediate contributors. Daley, Williams, Herbert, Burmeister & Hoffman (out one year).
We didn't necessarily need another safety/interior DL/RB, but no one on our roster was lighting up the position. Herbert lit up our backfield. I think Daley will be an all-ACC performer when it's all said and done. That's not a bad thing.