Championship Weekend:
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Utah and Oregon
Saturday
Big 12
Baylor and Oklahoma State
SEC
UGA and Bama
AAC
Cincinnati and Houston
BIG
Iowa and Michigan
ACC
Wake Forest and Pittsburgh
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Utah is putting it to Oregon tonight 31-3 start of the 4th.
Cristobal thinking about South Beach?
Meep Meep. UTSA wins 49-41 in a high scoring affair. That game ending was more interesting than most of this Oregon game has been.
Thats disappointing to hear, as I watched the Oregon/Utah game after seeing UTSA up like 42-13. I love a comeback bid. I should have trusted CUSA to deliver.
Utah completely dominated that game. So much For that Oregon offense.
Utah Beach Oregon 38-10 and 38-7 this season, they just had their number.
Looks like that number was 38.
Still gets me every time I see Wake/Pitt.
I automatically think "nooner" with 5 people in the stands.
I think it's gonna be a fun game.
Which combination of results would cause the greatest amount of chaos?
That's how you get Bama in the playoffs, I don't want that.
Maybe if UGA boat races Bama, their mentally ill fans will get Saban fired and he can come be our DC.
Eh, I actually think Bama winning causes the least amount of disruption solely for the fact that UGA could lose 50-0 today and they're still going to the CFP. Bama losing is one scenario of things becoming more interesting with who is in and who is out
UGA, Mich, Cincy and OK ST if Bama had lost by more than 10 I think. That would be 2 losses on them.
Might want to check the score of the Ok St game. Lots of football left but their QB is having a rough day.
Yea now but when I made post about keeping Bama out that was how.
Utah beats Oregon - Check
Baylor beats the other OSU - Check
UGA beats Alabama - Uncheck
Houston beats Cincy - Uncheck
Iowa beats Michigan - Uncheck
Someone wins the ACC - Check
EDIT: Updated for Baylor winning.
EDIT 2: Updated for Cincy and Tide
EDIT 3: Updated to confirm my suspicion that someone will win the ACC (please let it be Wake please Wake please)
EDIT 4: Updated for Michigan winning. Looks like we'll get Alabama, Michigan, Cincy, and UGA. Unfortunately I think if anyone there gets left out it'll be UGA. But I think they're in.
This is the first season I've ever wanted to see end-of-season chalk in college football. And of course we see 2 big upsets, that will probably help existing powers get a playoff bid. SMH.
Least Oregon look cool when they get housed on a national broadcast
So obnoxious hearing the Bammer and UGA fans chant SEC when Lincoln Riley was on the show. I'm hoping the tide is turning and less and less quality coaches want to get involved with the SEC.
They were doing that to troll Riley... I thought it was hilarious.
I mean if someone offered me big money to coach in LA versus going to the meat grinder that is the SEC West, I think I would have been thinking like Riley too.
I agree man, who wouldn't want to live in the LA area, even more specifically the super rich version of living in LA, where he will have access to private helicopter usage (rumored as part of his contract), and his housing paid for (also rumored part of the contract, and relatively standard behavior for major head football coaches)? It's a sweet deal at one of the true blood programs with a huge talent pool in their footprint that all want USC to be return to greatness. However, when a ton of reports come out about Riley not wanting to go to the SEC, it's very reasonable to get razzed by fans like that. It's all in good fun imo.
No doubt. I personally just wish more schools in the ACC could get their act together and get serious about football so SEC wouldn't dominate the southern footprint. Just feels time for a paradigm shift. Hoping Tech is going in that direction now, maybe Miami's new AD gets their stuff together too. We need VT, Miami, Clemson, FSU to all be good.
Agree. I'd love to see VT, Miami, Clemson, and FSU all be as consistently good as they each were at their best, Clemson obviously the most recently elite of the group. It would never happen but damn if it wouldn't make ACC football fun to watch and also challenge the SEC for supremacy. How sweet would it be to have teams like the late 90s and late 00s VT teams, the Thug U Miami teams, Bowdens FSU teams, and recent Clemson teams all at the same time and consistent.
I'm really hopeful that Miami can hire Lane Kiffin. First of all, it would be amazing for college football. Secondly, I want to beat good Miami, not mediocre Miami. UVA on the other hand... I want them to stay mediocre at best forever.
Well... fuck
Those added perks sound nice, but I for one couldn't live in LA. Been there for work and wasn't a huge fan.
As a college coach though it does sound much easier as a recruiting footprint and path to the top 4. He made a good decision IMO.
I am a huge fan of the "qualified" scenery in LA. Other than that, LA was just meh to me.
As a fellow southeasterner (based on your username) I definitely understand that notion, it's certainly not for everyone. Life in LA though is about as good as it gets for famous/rich people. It's one of very few places you can be famous and not get harassed/noticed anywhere you go, particularly in comparison to a sport like college football where most top schools are in college towns which are usually smaller, more intimate and harder to blend in than huge cities. If his family wants some anonymity it's a lot easier to have it in LA than Norman, for example.
I remember hearing Lane Kiffin talk about living in Knoxville vs LA. He called Knoxville a fishbowl and said he and his family couldn't do anything in town without getting bombarded by fans. Said that in LA that no one recognized him in public, and talked about how nice it was.
I feel like Iowa could be a trap for Michigan. They may catch UM concentrating on the latter part of Iowa's season and thinking they're a pushover, and then somehow Iowa finds themselves again.
Agreed, but I really don't think "trap" gives either team the credit they deserve. The only game i saw Michigan really play well was Ohio State. And by "credit they deserve," I absolutely mean that both teams are overrated in the sense that they are both extremely vulnerable.
I agree. Just the moniker that everyone knows and I don't have to explain. But thanks for explaining that it's not exactly black & white. Have a leg.
Word, I'm mostly complaining/getting used to the fact that there is really only one elite team this year and outside of that its generally chaos (plus the general complaint that the BIG and ND are just not as good as the pundits want them to be - annually)
...I miss having a reason to be anxious on championship Saturday
Okie State is dressed like Clemson for the BigXII Champ game. Unfortunately for them they currently are playing like this year's Clemson and not previous years
The funny part being that they are actually extremely similar to this year's Clemson in their statistical profile as well. Very good defense with a very unreliable offense and erratic QB play.
Hard to believe it's been 8 years since Grimes was at Tech.
Baylor up 21-3 over an Oklahoma St team with a mediocre offense if this TD withstands review. Not looking good for the Pokes.
Should have been a turnover before.
Totally agree. He clearly lets go of the ball in front of the 21 and it lands on the 21 hash. It couldn't have been any more clear for the replay official.
Edit: numbers are hard, I meant the 21 not the 19. Doesn't alter the logic of the comment though.
I disagree. I think it was released slightly behind the 21 and landed inside the 21 paint. Either way it was so close that it was going to stay as called on the field.
It was way too close for anyone to speak in certainty about it though.
Former VT OL coach Jeff Grimes is the OC and play caller for Baylor.
Yep, his stock has been going way up as an offensive coach. Wouldn't be surprised to see him get a HC job soon.
You know what? If Baylor and UGA both win, then it's probably ND that goes to the playoff in the #4 spot.
I know people don't think ND is a top 4 team, which I agree with, and there is general ND hatred all over the place but hear me out:
What if - just what if - Brian Kelly bails to LSU and Marcus Freeman coaches two total games and wins a national championship. Personally I would dig that.
Was thinking this exact thing the other day. He's leaving to get to the next level, and they finally reach that without him. Would be comical. But after watching ND's offense this year, Georgia might hold them under 200 yards.
I mean, we realistically should have beaten them. No one who barely beat 2021 Virginia Tech deserves to be in spitting distance of a national championship.
He'd be the Cardale Jones of coaches if he did that.
Cardale Jones crossed my mind as I was writing it. Great comparison.
The only playoff that Notre Dame should be eligible for is a 6-team playoff for the College Football Independents Championship.
EDIT: I counted wrong...there are actually 7 teams. But I stand by my 6 team playoff. #7 should be the automatic Indepedent Sacko Champion.
Love the aggressiveness of Baylor on this drive to end the half. Throwing downfield and playing for the TD instead of the FG. If they settle for a field goal here it won't be because they didn't try for six.
Decent way for the pokes to end the half. Finally something positive. I dont have a strong pref on who wins this game, but I would enjoy total CFBP chaos with a OSU win, Georgia and Michigan loss, and a Cincy game that is way closer than it should be.
Both of these teams are giving the other ample opportunity to run away with it, and neither is taking advantage.
Okie St catching lots of breaks this half: That muffed punt just now, the last missed fg, getting the ball inside the Baylor half on a questionable 4th down decision and play call.
Looks like it will come down to the wire now.
That goal line stand has me triggered. 3 chances from the 1 and go backwards.
EDIT: IT HAPPENED AGAIN! This time 4 plays to win from the goal line. I'm just going to assume all BigXII teams are elite goal line defenses
this is comical
An interesting part of that is OSU went so fast for third down that they may have prevented a review on the 2nd down run lol. Idk if he got in or if it would have been overturned, but it was close enough to warrant a review and it was OSU who went so fast that they didn't call it down.
Baylor's front four is bullying the osu OL.
Seems like it's going both ways now. OSU DL has been getting the best of Baylor OL in the 2nd half for sure.
Been fun to watch. Not used to seeing a low scoring Big 12 game.
Siaki Ika (62, Baylor) is an example of what most Big12 teams have been struggling to get for the last decade or so. He was a Bama, LSU, Georgia recruiting battle out of HS, went to LSU, then followed Aranda to Baylor. Hard to find 350lb DT's who can move like that with such violent hands/power.
The game's almost over and neither team has gained 250 total yards. Unreal.
Edit: Ok State breaks through with 3:23 left to play
This Baylor-OKSt game makes me feel like I'm watching Corn's VT offense for both sides.
How okie state? How?!
What a way to lose a conference championship Okie State.
Honestly big choke job to get no TDs down there twice
Horrible third down play call and poor execution by the RB on fourth down. He got out ran and never made a cut to the endzone. Trying to get the edge was the only way he doesn't get in
Baylor holds on 4th and goal from the 1 with 0:37 left in the game. Holy cow.
Gotta say, it was entertaining.
And Frosty is real happy :-).
Is Corn now an advisor at OK St.?
Game of inches indeed, what a finish!!
Exactly what I thought to myself. That kid's gonna replay that in his head for the rest of his life
In the last 10 minutes, OK State had 1st & goal from the 1 TWICE and scored 3 points total. And that's what keeps them from winning the Big 12 and and possibly getting to the playoff... BRUTAL
Great ending to that Big 12 championship game. With OkSt out of the running, if Alabama, Cincy, or Michigan loses then ND to the playoff! Come on Marcus!
Close loss by Bama and they are getting in over ND I bet.
This might end up being the case but it sucks that 11-1 Bama has to play UGA this week, 11-1 Michigan has to play Iowa this week, and ND doesn't risk a loss this week. It's an imperfect system for sure, and as a result each year has to be viewed in its own context, but definitely doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies. Especially since I think either Michigan or Bama would beat this Notre Dame team. Perhaps more importantly, both Bama and Michigan have much better resumes than Notre Dame as well, better wins, stronger SOR, tougher SOS.
Yeah, it sucks because Auburn shouldn't have blown it last week so we could see a 10-2 Alabama playing this week.
I consider a 97 yard drive without timeouts and 95 seconds left a team winning a game rather than the other team "blowing it" but that's just me.
I wish someone could explain SEC teams and their obsession with entire legions of baton twirlers.
I mean they do seem pretty qualified
The 80's big hair is a no from me.
I'll allow it.
I mean, more qualified women getting screen time is fine with me.
Pom Poms, batons, whatever it takes.
Depending on how Alabama fare I'm surprised nobody is talking about Baylor having an outside shot here but I know somehow ND will get in just because Notre Dame. Why couldn't we have beaten them in lane so we don't have to see that happen
There was discussion back in the studios during the Baylor/OKSt. game about this. It needs all hell to break loose today, but there's a chance they can find their way in (albeit a slim one). I think for this to happen Georgia would need to curb stomp 'bama (doesn't look like that's going to happen), Iowa needs to do the same to Michigan, and Cincy just needs to lose. If all of that happens - Georgia stays #1, Notre Dame slides up to #2 Baylor skips over Ohio St. to #3, and #4 would be anyone's guess.
2 loss team has never made the playoff
I haven't watched Cincinnati yet this year and I'm excited to do so today. I'm watching them and the SEC championship on two screens, half way through the 1st the AAC Championship is much more exciting.
Embarrassing crowd for one loss Louisiana for a conference championship.
In case anyone didn't know.
Byrce young good.
They made a Kurt Warner movie??
Yep. Just saw it advertised at Regal last night. American Underdog.
As a lifelong Rams fan and a Kurt Warner fan this will be a must see.
It really is a hell of a story and he's such a positive person in interviews and whatnot
Yeah. He really is a good role model.
His story is a combination of talent, hard work, and persistence.
And a helluva lot of adversity, if I am remembering his family/personal story correctly.
It must be nice to have a roster like Bama or UGA.
Jameson Williams is the fastest person I have ever seen
That name really makes me want some whiskey.
Got some jacks single barrel cmon through bruh π
Also fuck bama
It's early in these games, but if Cincinnati gets picked over 11-2 Bama, then why should teams even bother with strength of schedule?
Ohio St manned up and schedules Oregon early in the season and it's going to cost them chance at a title. Bama has to beat the best team in the country to stay in the mix. But Cincy gets to play Tulsa Tulane and Navy all year and gets in??? Preposterous to me.
So basically a non P5 should never get into the playoffs....
Not into a four-team playoff. I think to make it fair, you've got to expand the playoff to at least 8.
I agree with expanded playoffs but Cincinnati can't help that they aren't in the SEC or B1G for another one. You're basically saying no matter what you do and who you beat you don't deserve to be in the playoffs and I just can't agree with that.
They have ran pretty much every team they have played off the field. It's not like they have played close games, then you may have an argument. But I think they are deserving this year.
Not even the UCF team from 2017 that went undefeated and even beat an Auburn team that had beaten both Alabama and Georgia during the regular season?
Pretty sure the biggest hurdle to OSU's playoff chances was not beating Michigan.
I agree with that. My point is that if Ohio State had scheduled an FCS team instead of Oregon, they'd be one of the 4 playoff teams this year.
On one hand, I hear you. On the other, can a good G5 just get in...once? Grinding out a schedule means your team is deep, not necessarily the best 11 players assembled at once. Can we just let them play and see? Who ever wants to see two SEC schools in the playoff? Let's get some semblance of variety, geeze. Once the playoff expands half of the teams will be SEC, regardless how much it expands.
I hear you. I'm just coming from a place of wanting the best and most accomplished teams in the playoff. I want beating the best teams to mean something. If the two best teams in the country are Alabama and Georgia, I think they should get into the playoff. And I disagree with the last part; I mean, if there was a 16-team playoff this year only 3 SEC teams at most would make it.
Thus making the outcome of today's game meaningless.
I mean, yeah, if you choose an extreme scenario then generic statements won't hold up. That'll pretty much always be true. What has reasonably been spoken about for playoff options, 6 teams, 8 teams?
Best college teams money can buy
Alabama = WRU
Is there.....is there a tacshaver commercial during the SEC title game???
Ugh, was rooting for the girl from Kentucky to go to vet school over the Duke kid. Who makes SAT prep questions in their spare time? Good lord.
I root against all of them now because they all chest pass. Make them throw it like football players. /rant
New rule: if you use the chest pass, someone will start hitting you with those pool noodle-type sticks that they use on QBs in practice.
Kids who go to Duke...
Bryce Young just looks so good. He's throwing some amazing passes tonight for Alabama.
Cincy starting to run away with things... Baylor's chances are diminishing with every play.
Bama shredding the defense. I go to take my dog outside and by the time I come back there's another TD on the scoreboard.
Ugh, gonna be 2 SEC teams in the playoffs. Just like a few years ago, it seems unfair for the winner of this game needing to beat the same team a second time for the national championship. I'm also biased that I hate that the SEC getting 2 bids, but still.
Yeah, was just logging on to post that we are stuck with 2 SEC teams again. And, in fairness, I cannot argue with it. Assuming the Alabama-Georgia game is over (which I think it is) there is no way I can see Georgia being worse than 4th. No way Notre Dame or any 2 loss team should pass them. Guessing the top 4 (in no particular order) will be:
Alabama
Michigan (if they win)
Cincy
Georgia
Notre Dame backing in (if Michigan loses)
So hoping it will be Georgia or Cincy winning as I am so tired of Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State and Notre Dame always in the playoff.s
Yeah, definitely pulling for Georgia. I'm really wanting some variety, the same teams every year is getting boring.
I think UGA and Bama just switch places so they don't play each other in their next game. Perhaps in the national championship...again
Yep. UGA will get the three seed and take on Michigan. They will do everything to set up a big SEC rematch in the title game. Puke.
I have SEC fatigue as much as anyone but can anybody really argue that these aren't the two best teams in the nation right now?
If Bama holds on with a 2 score lead I could see them jumping to number 2 honestly.
They are the two best teams.
But why not treat this game like what it is, a postseason game (ie playoff)?
Bama winning this means the game didn't even need to be played. And I'm supposed to think that makes the season matter more? UGA and Bama are getting their shot right now to show they deserve to play for the title.
So if Bama wins would it be:
1. Michigan
2. Bama
3. Cincy
4. Georgia
They are going to want to avoid that semifinal rematch.
Just crown the winner of this game the champ.
The level of disparity between the top tier of the SEC and the rest of college football is ridiculous.
EDIT:
Twice has a 4 seed won the title. Ohio State in 2014-2105 and Bama in 2017-2018.
3 Times(thrice) has a 3 seed played in the title game. Georgia in 2017-2018, Clemson in 2019-2020, and Ohio State in 2020-2021. That's 5 out of 7 titles being won by the 1 or 2 seed. or 71 percent.
If Bama wins its UGA/Bama at 1/2 - either order is arguable and acceptable. 3/4 is Michigan/Cincy, presuming they win.
You can't drop Georgia that far for losing to Alabama. Ultimately it just matters for who goes to Miami or Dallas.
Agreed on the latter point, disagree on the rankings if Alabama wins.
1) Bama
2) Mich
3) UGA
4) Cincy
unless the current scores hold and Michigan loses, then
1) Alabama
2) UGA
3) Cincy
4) ND
So no rematches in the semis.
At this point, I think there are two NY6 scenarios.
If Michigan wins:
semis: Alabama vs. Cincy, Michigan vs. Georgia
Rose Bowl: Utah vs. Ohio State
Sugar Bowl: Ole Miss vs. Baylor
Peach: ACC champ vs. Notre Dame
Fiesta: Oklahoma State vs. Michigan State
(or they could completely scramble those last two matchups around.)
If Michigan loses:
semis: Alabama vs. Cincy, ND vs. Georgia
Rose Bowl: Utah vs. Iowa
Sugar Bowl: Ole Miss vs. Baylor
Peach/Fiesta: ACC champ, Michigan, Oklahoma State, Ohio State
(I think ACC champ anchors Peach, Ok State goes to Fiesta, and then it's a toss up for where Michigan and OSU go.)
Is the stipulation that the NY6 has to give a spot to the highest ranked G5 satisfied if Cincy makes the playoff? Or do they have to give a spot somewhere to the next highest ranked G5?
I'm pretty sure it's the first one.
And it's highest ranked G5 champ -- important distinction. So the only other team that could possibly be in play is Louisiana.
The only ranked G5 teams coming into this weekend were #4 Cincy (won conference champ), #12 BYU (independent, so only eligible for an at-large spot on their own merits with a high enough ranking), #19 San Diego State (lost conference champ), #21 Houston (lost conference champ), #24 Louisiana (won conference champ).
If Cincy had lost, then Houston would have been the automatic G5 NY6 bid, although if the Bearcats didn't fall too far, they could still have gotten one of the at-large spots.
I don't think the rankings are a given. I could see uga getting seeded anywhere
At this point, as long as the teams are in the top 4, the individual rankings don't matter, especially #2/#3.
Here's the rules I think the committee will follow:
-Avoid the immediate Alabama/Georgia rematch.
-Alabama will be ranked higher than Georgia.
-If Michigan wins, they are in. If they lose, they are out and ND is in. (As ND is the only other team with <2 losses.)
-Michigan (with a win) will remain higher than Cincy.
-CIncy will remain higher than Notre Dame.
So your only options for the SEC teams is to put Alabama at #1 with Georgia at #2/3 (specific ranking doesn't matter) OR put Georgia at #4 with Alabama at #2/3.
If you put Alabama at #1, then you have to have Michigan and Georgia at #2/3, and Cincy at #4.
Or, Alabama #1, Georgia and Cincy at #2/3, and ND #4.
If you put Georgia at #4, you have to put Michigan at #1, with Alabama and Cincy at #2/3. That's the same match-ups as putting Alabama at #1. (So really, the only thing that would matter is which team gets to pick their bowl.) However, Georgia can't fall to #4 if Michigan loses, because we've already established Cincy would have to stay ahead of ND.
I know that Bama and UGA are probably the two best teams... I know that if Bama holds on here we will have two ESECPN teams in the playoff... I guess that should happen... sigh.
However, rather than expanding the playoff I would like to see us treat these conference championship games like the first round of the playoffs. Win and advance. Lose and find a bowl game.
You want to keep the made up committee thing for the biggest college sport. Keep the entrant limit to a ridiculously small number of four... And your only tweak would be to make a technicality to keep the best four teams from being ranked 1-4?
That just might finish the Bama game. So frustrated we get to watch another two SEC team playoff
Is anyone else surprised that the best a program like Georgia can do at quarterback is Stetson Bennett? Good lord that dude is horrible
What I find super annoying is that if the SEC gets two teams in the playoffs, they will get a double payout, while the ACC gets NADA.
The SEC is ALREADY awash in money.
The thing that frustrates me is that Georgia can lose by 21pts and still get in. Any other conference has undefeated team lose by 20+ they would not get in, unless it was Ohio State
I get the frustration but kind of agree (at least this year) that Georgia would still deserve to get in with a 21 point loss to Bama. Just don't believe Cincy or ND could hang that close to Bama. Just not into Cincy and that schedule.
But yeah I get it and am frustrated with the whole SEC thing myself.
For Cincy why? They've literally won every game including ranked victories over Top 6 ND and 11 win Houston. Sure analytics suggest Bama wins, but analytics also suggested Bama would blow out A&M or UGA to handily beat Bama. That's why we play the games instead of letting the computer simulate and crown a victor in August
Ok maybe that was a bit overstated by me. Yeah I can see Cincy staying within 21 of Bama but cannot see them having even a puncher's chance of beating Bama or Georgia.
And ND and Houston are not Murderer's Row opponents.
Don't get me wrong, I would love to see Cincy beat either but I just haven't seen enough to make me believe that could happen. Just my opinion which happens to be wrong often ππ
Cincy hung really close with UGA last year. They should've won too, but blew it at the end.
Looks like UGA will lose by 17 points... I think they're probably in, but if they lost by >3 TDs, I think they could've missed the cut.
Not with Ok State losing.
I do think that if they got blown out (41-17, or something like that) they could be kicked out for ND. The committee does not like teams being blown out, even against top 5 teams.
Why can't Georgia just do "normal" Georgia things against Bama? This game has gonna completely opposite of how Georgia games have gone this year. How can Auburn shut Bama down but a much better Georgia D sh! ts their pants? π
Monday is gonna be gnarly if those guys don't pull any punches. She is gonna destroy him.
My only theory is that Saban sold his soul to the devil when he left Miami. Source: 11 straight 11+ win seasons.
The game will get a lot better the day he retires. People talk about how great he is, but he has made the cost of winning so unbelievably expensive to compete at a high level in the sport. He took an unlimited checkbook and just hired more staff and more recruiters and built more facilities than everyone else, and the race was on. It's really taken the sport overall in a terrible direction.
This also shows how worthless the NCAA is truly. An organization with a supposed mission of promoting competition and helping the student athlete does neither.
Unless Bama really bumbles the replacement for Saban, I think the machine will keep on running, at least until all the higher-level assistants move on or retire, themselves. And by bumble it, I mean bring in a whole new staff under the new HC that basically pulls a Fuente and turns a deaf ear to what worked before them. The brand, the facilities, the bottomless checkbook...those will all still be there, and don't think the administration and fanbase will lose their bloodlust to win at all costs when Saban is gone.
Yeah I totally agree on the NCAA. They have totally shirked their responsibility and governance. Just some bureaucrats who have sat back and collected inflated salaries and watched over the sport being sold to the highest bidder.
Edit: Since I am already on this rant I will add that I could do a better job than Mark Emmert and I look a helluva lot better in a suit to boot.
Isn't Georgia blowing it in a championship situation normal Georgia things though?
Kirby has built a very proto-Bama program at Georgia. An earlier version of Bama from the late 2000s/early to mid 2010s. Ball control offense, strong run game and very game-manager type QB (John Parker Wilson, Greg McElroy, McCarron). Dominant front seven defense, but prone to struggle against a dynamic QB that can push the ball down the field. We saw Saban evolve that blueprint and change up his offense and also find adjustments on defense to try and slow down those dynamic QBs (think Johnny Manziel, Chad Kelly, Watson etc that gave him fits). Kirby's offense just leaves a ton to be desired.
Everyone in the CFB world:
Georgia:
Alabama beating Georgia is about as sure as taxes.
And about as much funπ
OU and Texas have no idea what they are in for.
He'll never say it out loud but you know Lincoln was thinking about this when USC offered. Blue blood school competing in the PAC 12 sounds much safer then taking the multiple 10+ win season OU into the SEC and winning 5-8 games a year.
They deserve every SEC loss they get. And I for one hope there are many.
I wrote this comment purely off general in-the-moment memory of college football. I just went back and checked, and while it holds true, they play less than I thought...
Alabama is 7-0 against Georgia going back to 2008...if you had asked me when I made my comment, I would've guessed that they had played at least 4 more times, easily thinking that they played 11 times going back to 2008...thought they had more SEC champ games against one another in the more recent years...
...they only played one another in SEC Champ games tonight, 2018, and 2012. Man, SEC is a very competitive conference.
*Edit: partially because I do remember one of their games was in the national champ game when everyone (including myself) was kind of annoyed that they (they being the always ominous "they"....but let's be honest, it was ESPN) pitted 2 SEC teams against one another.
Show of hands - what are you watching more of / exclusively?
Big Ten - Mich vs. Iowa
Same
ACC - Pitt vs. Wake
Bout to do some serious flipping
This should be a show of legs, not hands.
Yeah, something needs to change. All these non-SEC schools jumping in the arms race like it fucking matters. That league is flush with cash, there's maybe 5 or so schools who have a chance to compete once every 3 years. This shit needs to be reined in. No college football coach needs $10mm/year and 150 recruiters. How the fuck are the other 130 schools supposed to even hang? The SEC needs to break away from the NCAA so we can go back to watching interesting football again. Unfortunately, I doubt the NCAA can cap the money spent by the schools, look out for the players, and still find a way to keep the parity down.
With that said, it's more likely that Cincinnati gets smoked. I'm just glad they'll get a chance.
I think they'll hang tough but whoever they play will pull away in the 2nd half. Kinda like us when we used to be in those type of games!
I will be pulling for Cincy if they make it in, but ultimately I think you are spot on. A difference in depth doesn't really become noticeable until the second half when the deep, blue blood team just keeps plugging along at full speed. You can usually throw coaching and scheme out the window at that point.
I always think about our 1996 Orange Bowl against Nebraska. Our first team was taking care of business but once we had to start subbing in our backups we couldn't keep up.
I'm just here for Gus Johnson in the booth.
Wow, Robert Griffin in the booth for the ACCCG..??
Glad to see ESPN brought out their C-minus team for this one. The perfect combination of loud and uninsightful.
I think he's got Kenny Pickett's and Sam Hartman's cocks in his mouth at the same time.
Perfect segway into Subway's option for double the meat, amirite?
Can I request a Kenny Pickett fake-slide giftory. Wow, what a play.
In before a Wake player gets ejected for hitting him the next time he slides. You could see Wake pull up because the ref's give zero deference to defenders now.
I know RGIII was giddy about the fake slide, but I think it's bullshit...same with faking going out of bounds.
Agree, if you can fake-slide then the Defender can't be called for Roughing for making any contact whatsoever with the QB.
Can't have it both ways. Rule should be clarified that with any attempt to slide, play is dead and ball spotted there.
Unfortunately that's not how it's going to work. They will still protect the QB and defenders are just going to get hung out to dry.
Hmmm I seem to remember someone faking going out of bounds that went pretty well for us π€
It was BS when Mike Vick did it too. The NFL lets running QB's get rocked, it's the pocket passers you can't breathe on. So I guess he ultimately paid for it?
I guess I feel like the Vick play is different. And Pickett is no Mike. They def called MV7 different to me.
https://youtu.be/Mm3nfLFTmaU
The defenders should be allowed to "tap" the QB just like in the NFL in how they tap the down player to be down by contact. If that's not allowed, then it is indeed BS with the decked stacked way in favor of the QB as a runner. If it is allowed, then the WFU should still pursue, if nothing more than to get the tap.
Ask and ye shall receive
dunno how to embed (don't have a Twitter)
https://twitter.com/CaramelPhd/status/1467303682802954242?s=20
Honest question, could a ref call an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty for a fake slide? I understand doing anything for extra yards, but exploiting others by taking advantage of their instincts to not injure you and likely causing them to tackle an actual sliding QB later sounds exactly like unsportsmanlike conduct.
That fake is the type of play that is going to get another QB killed. Can't have it both ways. Either give yourself up or they have to be more lenient on guys coming in on the tackle. If I were a defensive coach I'd harp that play to the ruling committee type folks all offseason.
If I was coaching or playing you could bet the next time he slides he gets the ever loving fuck knocked out of him for that BS. I would do my best to inflict as much pain as humanly possible and then take my ejection. Sometimes you have to self police when the deck is stacked against you
I've been saying Bryce Young is special. He came out and put on a show against an all-time defense.
visions of Jesse Allen in the Sugar Bowl flashing through my memories...
Eat shit pitt
I'm not sure Wake actually has a Secondary.
helluva trick play there
Wow
Still a loooooot of game left to play.
The way Michigan is playing, FGs are not going to cut it. Going to have to supplement that with some timely TOS at the least.
36yd opening play to the drive is not a good start
But a timely TO is a good way to turn things around
Love this Josh Gattis offense. Tough, physical downhill running game and explosive deep shots to take the top off.
3rd and 12 and he calls a QB draw. Did he phone a Corn?
Wake with 2 defensive stops in a row. (1 was a missed FG). Pickett is banged up a little bit and Pitt has not solved Wakes offense.
I feel like Iowa is a flashback to our 07/08 era teams. Even the commentators are celebrating the punter accuracy to pin Michigan in the 10.
Kinnick Stadium is quite similar to Lane, in design. Just without the Lane intensity.
I can see it now.
Selection committee: Cincinatti only beat Houston by 15 points. Not very impressive. Especially given that it was a home game. Let's have Notre Dame jump them in the rankings!
Only half /s
I still see it happening. NCAA loves to get a hard on for 2 SEC teams, a B1G team, and ND in CFP.
If the Pickett fake slide happened against Pitt, Narduzzi would spend his entire postgame press conference whining about it 100%
Both of these games are o.v.e.r. Over.
I blame Sam Hartman's stupid haircut for these last two interceptions.
USC and Cal are all tied up in the 1st quarter of the 4-7 Bowl.
Thanks for the heads up. I turned off the UM stream because Iowa's offense might not beat teams from 1902.
God, I hate Narduzzi.
I am glad to see the Coastal win the Conference.
Soon enough, VT will be back on top of the ACC. Right where we belong!
But in the mean time...fuck pitt
Hartman is very accurate throwing to the other team atleast
I gotta say, it's hard to not get psyched for Harbaugh finally beating his arch nemesis and now winning the Big Ten and getting to the CFP. After all the crap he's gotten this has to feel like such a sigh of relief, and to win it for the school he loves has gotta be extra special.
As someone at OSUe I was really hoping a W this year would finally get him fired. The dude has choked a lot but still fields great teams. Hope they pull it out because I don't like Mich but I hate Alabama and I'm mad at UGA for not ending their season.
You misspelled Auburn.
Yes, Auburn is to blame for all this!
Yeah if Bama loses a respectable game against UGA the committee would still put them 4th but they couldn't excuse a loss to Auburn playing with it's backup QB..... I completely blame Auburn for another Satan CFP berth.
I'm glad that's the last ACC game Kenny Pickett plays in.
Oh yeah, almost forgot...Fvck Pat Narduzzi.
MV7 name drop by Pickett? Who was it said that these kids don't know who Mr. Vick is?
Yeah, but Pickett is also like a 15th year senior. He probably knows who Warren Moon is too.
Leg for you sir...
Last game on is Cal beating up on some directional school, 17-7 going to the half. Yawn.
Nard's comments on the Pickett fake slide just piss me off further. At first when I saw the play my reaction was great play. But watching the replays it was absolutely clear that he started to give himself up, the Wake players both responded per the rules to avoid a penalty, and then Pickett takes off. There were some comparisons to Vick against WVU in '99, but Vick simply slowed down on that play before starting back up - he never started a slide. IMHO this is a rule change that needs to be made, and I'd go as far as saying it should be a 15yd penalty from the spot of the fake slide attempt.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32794482/wake-forest-co...
I hope he goes to slide in their bowl game and some linebacker hammers him into the ground.
There doesn't even need to be a rule change, the rule is already in place. By rule he should have been ruled down and the refs just didn't do it.
So the refs just missed the call then?
Yes, the ball is down where the player starts his slide.
Or.....let's consider the fact that it's football and you shouldn't be able to "give yourself up" regardless of position. My argument should be that whether you slide or not, you're liable to be hit
You know if the situation was reversed Nardouche would have lost his shit on the sidelines and in the press conference. He knows it's a BS play and now is making excuses for it.
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